Congressman Wants Civil Rights Official Ousted

[oracle]

Congressman Wants Civil Rights Official Ousted (http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPolitics.asp?Page=/Politics/archive/200112/POL20011207f.html)

By Jim Burns
CNSNews.com Senior Staff Writer
December 07, 2001


(CNSNews.com) - A simmering feud between the White House and the chairwoman of the U.S. Civil Rights Commission boiled over Friday when she and four other members refused to seat or even recognize President Bush's new appointment to the commission.

The actions of Mary Frances Berry triggered an immediate call for her ouster.

Rep. Bob Barr (R-Ga.) said Berry is using the commission not to advance the cause of civil rights, but to promote her extremist, political agenda.

"Recent actions only reinforce my belief that the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights is chaired by a political activist masquerading as a leader on the very important national issue of civil rights," Barr stated in a letter to the White House.

"The chairwoman's outrageous actions with regard to your appointment of Mr. Peter Kirsanow are further proof of her desire to silence any voice other than her own. Neither the chairwoman nor any of the commissioners have been elected by the people of the United States, and thus hold no authority over those of us who have," Barr wrote.

The White House had no comment on the letter.

In refusing to seat Kirsanow as a member of the commission, Berry said it would now be up to the courts to make a ruling before she accepted the president's choice.

"We will abide by the court," Berry said at an open meeting of the commission after it voted 5-3 to reject Kirsanow.

Kevin Martin of Project 21, a black conservative group, witnessed the meeting.

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[DesertFox]

Berry is using the commission ... to promote her extremist, political agenda.

Good for you, Bob Barr. Someone in Washington finally used the word "extremist" on a racist extremist.

Note that Berry, like all Libs, wants the courts to decide who sits on the CRC. Not the representative of us all, George W. Bush, but another unelected official like herself.

[Warlady]

Today on Fox it was noted that Ronald Reagan had attempted to oust her during his administration and he lost his bid in court. She even boasted about his attempt during the meeting today. I was under the impression that everyone on the commission was limited to a 6 year term. Why can't the President of the United States oust her and is she a lifetime appointee?

[DesertFox]

I think Venus said this was a post-Reagan change.

[Warlady]

Where is Venus??????

[2nd_Amendment]

Not that I really approve of this sort of thing by any politician but if Bush wants her gone she's gone. No courts required. She'll simply do something amazingly illegal and vanish into the gulag.

Screwing with a sitting president in war time is an incredibly stupid thing to do for anyone of any political pursuasion.

[Warlady]

I think Bush has grounds to oust her. And, I think he could do it with very little fallout.

[Venus]

I'm here.

A couple weeks ago I posted a bit of research I'd done about Berry's appointment and the history of her terms on th commission.

I'll see if I can find it. Clinton appointed her chair. Her term is up in '05, IIRC. I made the point that if Bush wasn't re-elected, he would not be able to oust her by operation of the term-appointment schedule, but that he could fire her for cause if he could find it. It was on a thread that I believe Fox opened with an article about the two pending Bush appointees.

[Venus]

No can find.

If anyone expresses an interest in knowing, I'll look for the info I posted again.

[Warlady]

She needs to be fired. She doesn't care about civil rights. She cares about liberal blacks rights.

[**DONOTDELETE**]

She needs to be fired. She doesn't care about civil rights. She cares about liberal blacks rights.

WTF lol Im sorry that is so stupid Im not going to even respond. LOL!

[Venus]

And she's decidedly un-'civil'.

ButchBitch-Witch Berry is a Nazi.

[Warlady]

So do you think Bush is letting her hang herself?

[Venus]

WL, there was a time when I would have been confident that he is doing that. I can't say if that's the case. He may just want his people seated so they can offset her power. If that's the case, he is in for a reality check. Butch-bitch would run roughshod on 'pubs if she was outnumbered 7-1, because she'd figure she had nothing to lose and everything to gain by doing so. She's a typical 'rat-type street-fighter. 'Pubs are not. They're wusses, by and large, and not all that confrontational. I don't think he wants to get into a pissing match with her, quite frankly, but I'd be pleasantly surprised to see him take that step -- unless she makes it easy for him. What she may not fully appreciate is that he has nothing to lose and everything to gain by throwing her ButchNazi dyke-ass out on the streets tomorrow.

The question is, does he realize it?

It's a political and administrative no-brainer.

It's a pleasant thought that he might be having his WH counsel working on it, but I tend to doubt it. The more likely scenario, as I see it, is that he wants his people seated for their neutralizing votes to her extremism, and then intends to replace her in '05 if he's re-elected.

[Warlady]

I don't think he wants to be accused of firing her for revenge of her outlandish report on Florida but I don't think GW is a wuss either. If she pushes him too far he will blow her away figuritively speaking of course.

[Venus]

Yeah, I don't think he's a wuss in terms of confronting her, but I don't think he realizes that the political heat he would take isn't going to register with people who would vote for him. In other words, there's not one vote he would lose by firing her Naziness.

Now, one thing that makes me think he might just be setting up to fire her is the fact that this new appointee of his (who she won't recognize) is black. That appointment could work to his advantage in terms of softening the hue and cry of RACIST! if he cans ButchBitch.

[Venus]

Unit David255 prototype blessed us with:

"Im sorry that is so stupid Im not going to even respond"

The Unit is missing out on a chance to make a consummate jackass out of himself again, the only activity at which he excels.

[oracle]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Venus:
Now, one thing that makes me think he might just be setting up to fire her is the fact that this new appointee of his (who she won't recognize) is black. That appointment could work to his advantage in terms of softening the hue and cry of RACIST! if he cans ButchBitch.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ah but you forget that he is also a conservative republican. That means that to those that are ready to cry RACIST!, he is not really a black - Homo Sapiens Uncletomus.

[Venus]

Understood, Oracle, but for those in the middle, among the few who are even paying attention, it will count. Granted, the new appointment will never fly as a blow-softener for the left, but they won't vote for Bush anyway, no matter what. But for the unwitting, uninformed and easily impressed middle, the fact of the appointee's skin color will count for something. As for the right, well, they'll applaud him for firing her, regardless of whom he appoints.

[Warlady]

I'm praying he fires her. I'm praying hard. She is total opposite of everything Bush stands for.

[Venus]

You and I both, WL.

I believe she intends to make life a living hell for this administration.

Bush would be extremely wise to take all the steps needed to dump her and put in a reasonable, rational person who understands the law and that the purpose of the CRC is not to visit totalitarian schemes upon the American people under the auspices of the most sacred concept in our country, civil rights.

[**DONOTDELETE**]

The reason Mr Berry is so opposed to President Bush's appointment of Peter Kirsanow may be explained in the following:

Is the Government Engaging in Affirmative Discrimination?
~snip~
The Act, sponsored in the House by Rep. Charles T. Canady (R-Fl) and in the Senate by Sen. Robert Dole (R-KS) prohibits the federal government, its contractors and sub-contractors from according preferential treatment on the basis of race, sex or ethnicity. The bill defines preferential treatment as racial/sexual/ ethnic quotas, set asides or other numerical objectives.
Under the Act, all existing anti-discrimination laws remain in full force and effect. It is wholly consistent with the protections contained in the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Moreover, it even preserves affirmative action as it was originally conceived, i.e., before it metastasized into a Byzantine spoils system replete with clever mechanisms for counting by race.
For example, the bill would uphold the practice of casting wide recruitment nets to snare the highest number of qualified applicants. The federal government may continue to
~snip~
-by Peter Kirsanow, a member of the National Advisory Council of Project 21, and also a labor lawyer for Leaseway Transportation in Cleveland, Ohio

Document in full (http://www.nationalcenter.org/ComAffDisc.html)

Race and the Republicans
Peter Kirsanow, who chairs the Center for New Black Leadership, the right-of-center black think that co-sponsored the event, proposed ending income tax withholding, since then blacks (and with them, all other Americans) would actually experience writing a check for the services they get from government.
To read the entire article, click here. (http://reason.com/ml/ml011801.shtml)


**If I recall correctly, Kirsanow is a member of that impressive group of black conservatives who have had it with NAACP. They formed a counter-group... of sorts. I don't think this is Kirsanow's first run in with Berry... I believe it was just about this time last year they were locking horns over the Florida fiasco. Remember... those little "hearings" about disenfranchised black voters in Florida. (Oooops, did we forget the military votes... & yikes, Berry-fairee... what about those Black Republican votes???????)

The wonderful thing about our President... he surrounds himself with people who know what they are doin... & he lets them do their job. (Isn't that a refreshing change!)

Pull up a chair, grap some popcorn... Spartacus has entered the ring!!!! This is going to be gooooood ya'll!!!!!!!

[Warlady]

What court will this so called power struggle be decided in?

[Westbrook]

Uhhh...

Where does this "Commission" get its funding?

By what legislative act was this "Commission" established?

If it was established by executive fiat, then W should just defund it and establish an alternate under the auspices of the illustrious Krasinow.

[Venus]

The CRC is a mandated advisory commission under the Civil Rights Act.

[Warlady]

I hope it goes to Judge Lamberth's court.

[**DONOTDELETE**]

david255 wrote:
"WTF lol Im sorry that is so stupid Im not going to even respond. LOL!"

And by thus responding while claiming to decide to not respond, David makes himself even more an ass.

I thought that was not possible.

[**DONOTDELETE**]

I would think that her spitting in Bushs face should get her thrown out.

Of course, the Florida report is a case of having an agenda and doing all you can to twist data and find some that might prove your point. What's a few lies among leftists?? Just like Bellesiles.

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[DesertFox]

I am VERY irritated that only Bob Barr, of all those in Congress, has had the balls to take on this black political harlot.