One of Kerry's Purple Heart wounds required a band-aid and was accidentally self-inflicted!

[The_RANDy_Corporation]

The doctor who treated it made a note. It reads:


[ QUOTE ]
I have a very clear memory of an incident which occurred while I was the Medical Officer at Naval Support Facility, Cam Ranh Bay.
John Kerry was a (jg), the OinC or skipper of a Swift boat, newly arrived in Vietnam. On the night of December 2, he was on patrol north of Cam Ranh, up near Nha Trang area. The next day he came to sick bay, the medical facility, for treatment of a wound that had occurred that night.

The story he told was different from what his crewmen had to say about that night. According to Kerry, they had been engaged in a fire fight, receiving small arms fire from on shore. He said that his injury resulted from this enemy action.

Some of his crew confided that they did not receive any fire from shore, but that Kerry had fired a mortar round at close range to some rocks on shore. The crewman thought that the injury was caused by a fragment ricocheting from that mortar round when it struck the rocks.

That seemed to fit the injury which I treated.

What I saw was a small piece of metal sticking very superficially in the skin of Kerry's arm. The metal fragment measured about 1 cm. in length and was about 2 or 3 mm in diameter. It certainly did not look like a round from a rifle.

I simply removed the piece of metal by lifting it out of the skin with forceps. I doubt that it penetrated more than 3 or 4 mm. It did not require probing to find it, did not require any anesthesia to remove it, and did not require any sutures to close the wound.

The wound was covered with a bandaid.

Not [sic] other injuries were reported and I do not recall that there was any reported damage to the boat.


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National Review (http://www.nationalreview.com/york/york200405041626.asp)

[Suzie]

Man it really sucks when someone you had serve with you in a war starts saying you weren't what you appeared to be. You know tries to belittle your service ... says things that now you cannot prove wrong.... oh hmm wait!

Payback can be hell Senator. And you still got a LONG row to hoe, or HO as the case maybe.

[tacitus]

Incompetent fool.

[The_RANDy_Corporation]

Unstated here is the fact that if he took a shrapnel nick, that means he darn near blew himself, his crew and his boat to smithereens.

[tacitus]

Kinda like the other Naval officer with the same initials that had his boat cut in half by a Jap tincan.

[Warlady]

Klinger! Did Kerry wear a dress too?

[The_RANDy_Corporation]

It's funny you say that Warlady because doesn't it seem Kerry has become a caricature, a living parody of himself?

[Warlady]

Kerry is rapidly becoming a joke. Now he is going to have to release his military records. All of them. Unedited.

[The_RANDy_Corporation]

He never will. He can't let that truth come out! Just like Clinton's medical records.

[withstupid]

Does this indicate that Kerry was fired upon by enemy rocks? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon133.gif

[HarvickFan29]

Unless this makes national news on one of the big three/the sheeple's stations, it's not going to make a difference. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon8.gif

[The_Elucidator]

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[Samcat]

Not to rain on your parade, and I do appreciate you making this a thread, but I have been saying this for some time now...

It does deserve a thread, so well done, especially the doctor's report which I had not read...

[Warlady]

Huh? What do you care? You intend to cast a vote to enable a Kerry win. You should be defending his vile behavior. Seems to me anyway. I mean since there are only 2 viable candidates and Bush isn't your candidate then that only means Kerry is. Voting against Bush is no different than voting for Kerry. Third party votes is why we ended up with 8 years of Bill Clinton. And he damn near destroyed this country. I don't understand why you cannot see it. Basic math. So I beg to differ. You do intend to rain on our parade. You claim this is some kind of conscience vote but it's purely selfish. Values my foot. Think of all the Americans who will be harmed if Kerry wins. Put that in your conscience pipe and smoke it my young friend. Try putting the welfare of others ahead of yourself. You will be amazed what it does for your soul. Do you have children yet? Many Americans do and Bush has a war to win to ensure their safety. For once I agree with the Clinton's. I'm going to do it for the children. And their children and their children's children.

[Estragon]

[ QUOTE ]
withstupid said:
Does this indicate that Kerry was fired upon by enemy rocks? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon133.gif

[/ QUOTE ]


No, the dumb puke launched a mortar for the hell of it, was too close to the rocky shore. It was a piece of shrapnel from his own round that got him.

The story he made up about enemy small arms fire, which none of the other sailors saw or heard, was to get a Purple Heart for his screw-up.

Now, if you are under enemy fire, and shoot yourself in the foot or get hit by your own shrapnel, you qualify for the PH. But no enemy fire, no PH.

This doctor's recollection means there is a strong possibility that Kerry deliberately lied to get the medal. He later requested medals for other minor injuries, which were incurred under combat conditions, but for which most other servicemen would be embarassed to request a PH.

No wonder he won't release the military records. As I recall, Zumwalt made some damning remarks about Kerry's fitness for duty, and that he didn't question the three PHs or Kerry's request for reassignment because he was glad to be rid of him.

Let's see the fitness reports, too.

This gets better all the time.

[HarvickFan29]

Before this election is over, we're gonna find out that Kerry's whole life has been a lie. A facade, a farce. He's nothing more than a bogus political image.

[DesertFox]

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/yeahthat.gif

I think I said almost that exact same thing somewheres. Or maybe that was my alter ego in another universe. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[Warlady]

No Fox. You've said it. I've said it. Almost everyone on this forum has said it. Kerry is a liar. His wife is a liar. His campaign is a lie. His team are liars. His party lies. His supporters are liars. The media that supports him are liars. Kerry is a big fat ugly liar. I can't think of one thing he has said that even remotely resembles the truth. Can anyone else think of anything?

[DesertFox]

I think he did finally confess to marrying Terezza.

[HarvickFan29]

[ QUOTE ]
DesertFox said:
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/yeahthat.gif

I think I said almost that exact same thing somewheres. Or maybe that was my alter ego in another universe. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Well, you know, brilliant minds, and all that stuff...

[Estragon]

I do remember Fox saying something to that effect.

It was back a while, before he started taking those vitamins Wyatt sends him.

[Warlady]

But but but Fox has Terezza confessed to marrying him? After this past month she may want to back out of that deal. I hope she got a pre-nup.

[DesertFox]

She did. She ain't as dumb as he looks.

[HarvickFan29]

LOL!

It's not really rocket science.

[HarvickFan29]

Yep, she got a pre-nup. If she doesn't trust him, why should the voters?

[DesertFox]

He said them vitamins would make my winkie grow.

[Estragon]

Yep, she got the pre-nup with her rewards program on her American Express Card.

Don't marry a gigolo without it!

[DesertFox]

Damn! Wyatt musta sold Kerry some a them vitamins, too!

[Estragon]

[ QUOTE ]
DesertFox said:
He said them vitamins would make my winkie grow.

[/ QUOTE ]


Shoulda read the fine print on the bottle about "all natural mushroom and cactus buttons" and "Manufactured by the Carlos Casteneda Spiritual Awakening Company."


I'd ask about the effect on your winkie, but I don't want to know.

No, I REALLY don't wanna know.

[DesertFox]

Shucks. That's what muh wife sed, 2. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/sad.gif

[Wyatt_Junker]

Be The Envy of The Locker Room!

Get a dozen enlargers per dime bag.

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[HarvickFan29]

Kerry's motto: Never leave home without a rich widow. If ya have to go, take her American Express.

[Warlady]

[ QUOTE ]
HarvickFan29 said:
Yep, she got a pre-nup. If she doesn't trust him, why should the voters?

[/ QUOTE ]

<h1>Bingo!!!!</h1>

[DesertFox]

Actually, the pre-nup shows that she trusts him implicitly -- to drop her for the next rich widow who comes along, IF she has more dough than Terezza.

[Estragon]

When you get that rich, you have lawyers to watch the lawyers who watch your lawyers.

With that many lawyers around, no way she was getting married without a prenup.

I'm sure their prenup guaranteed John an adequate settlement or income in the event of a split. That's what he really needed, because he squandered the money his first rich widow gave him.

I'm sure Zsa-Zsa keeps her jewelry well polished, as well as ensuring her boy toy is taken care of.

[Dania]

The leftists are bleating that Kerry HAS released his military records on his website, but as usual, they are wrong. I think we should demand the immediate FULL release of his med, military AND tax records.....NONE of which he has released. If that doesn't torpedo him finally, nothing will. The Dems will vote for anyone or anyTHING to regain power.

[Dania]

Not to sound like a conspiracy theorist.....but......

what are the facts/details surrounding the death of Kerry's first wife? Knowing how people have a tendancy to mysteriously end up 'dead' if connected to the Dem Party upper echelon, I have to wonder. Aside from the money/inheritance aspect, one wonders if she knew too much about something, eh?

[Warlady]

I would also like Theresa's first husband's plane crash to be investigated further. What caused that crash?

[Samcat]

[ QUOTE ]
Warlady said:
Huh? What do you care? You intend to cast a vote to enable a Kerry win. You should be defending his vile behavior. Seems to me anyway. I mean since there are only 2 viable candidates and Bush isn't your candidate then that only means Kerry is. Voting against Bush is no different than voting for Kerry. Third party votes is why we ended up with 8 years of Bill Clinton. And he damn near destroyed this country. I don't understand why you cannot see it. Basic math. So I beg to differ. You do intend to rain on our parade. You claim this is some kind of conscience vote but it's purely selfish. Values my foot. Think of all the Americans who will be harmed if Kerry wins. Put that in your conscience pipe and smoke it my young friend. Try putting the welfare of others ahead of yourself. You will be amazed what it does for your soul. Do you have children yet? Many Americans do and Bush has a war to win to ensure their safety. For once I agree with the Clinton's. I'm going to do it for the children. And their children and their children's children.

[/ QUOTE ]

I thought I had explained this to you before. There is no choice between the two parties and I am NOT voting for either Kerry or Bush.

I am critical of Kerry's waffling as I am critical of Bush's spending entitlements and erosion of civil liberities.

It is because of children I will not vote for either of these men for the oval office.

Bush is setting the stage for the erosion of liberties as surely as Kerry would and this country is headed for disaster no matter which one is at the helm of the ship. It just goes faster with Kerry.

[Samcat]

[ QUOTE ]
Warlady said:
I would also like Theresa's first husband's plane crash to be investigated further. What caused that crash?

[/ QUOTE ]

Now you are grasping at straws. The first husband had a name. John Heinz.

[DesertFox]

When did Kerry's first wife die? Last I read, she said she would be voting for Kerry and was suing him because when he got their marriage annulled, it cost their kids legitimacy.

[jag]

Annulment nullifies the actual Sacrament of Holy Matrimony not the civil union, therefore the kids are legit.

[DesertFox]

I don't anything about sacraments and holy thisses and thats. All I know is what I read.

[SunnyBrook]

I especially enjoyed reading this:

[ QUOTE ]

Yesterday, a group of 18 veterans who served with Kerry in Vietnam held a press conference in which they described him as a self-serving, "loose cannon" who needed constant supervision and came only to launch a political career.


[/ QUOTE ]

FROM WORLD NET DAILY (http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38341)

[The_RANDy_Corporation]

[ QUOTE ]
Estragon said:
When you get that rich, you have lawyers to watch the lawyers who watch your lawyers.

With that many lawyers around, no way she was getting married without a prenup. . . . .


[/ QUOTE ]

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon16.gif

God bless America!

[Estragon]

[ QUOTE ]
DesertFox said:
I don't anything about sacraments and holy thisses and thats. All I know is what I read.

[/ QUOTE ]



One of Will Rogers' stock lines was "All I know is what I read in the papers."

Always got a laugh.


To the best of my knowledge, Kerry's first wife is still alive. She gave him the boot, but didn't kick the bucket.

[Dania]

Yikes! Especially after the Clintonistas, I don't put anything past these leftists....(murder included).

[hdmundt]

[ QUOTE ]
SunnyBrook said:
I especially enjoyed reading this:

[ QUOTE ]

Yesterday, a group of 18 veterans who served with Kerry in Vietnam held a press conference in which they described him as a self-serving, "loose cannon" who needed constant supervision and came only to launch a political career.


[/ QUOTE ]

FROM WORLD NET DAILY (http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38341)

[/ QUOTE ]


CSPAN re-broadcast the press conference last night. The swift boat veterans don't think much of Johnny-boy...... and they said so. No equivocation and no apologies. It was damning. It verifies what really needs no verification: Kerry is dishonest.... to the nth degree. America can't afford his being elected to the highest office.

[tacitus]

I hope H&amp;C has them on the tube. That should be fun watching turtle neck Colmes squirm.

[tacitus]

Too bad they didn't charge Lurch back then.



907. ART. 107. FALSE STATEMENTS
Any person subject to this chapter who, with intent to deceive, signs any false record, return, regulation, order, or other official document, knowing it to be false, or makes any other false official statement knowing it to be false, shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.

908. ART. 108. MILITARY PROPERTY OF UNITED STATES-LOSS, DAMAGE, DESTRUCTION, OR WRONGFUL DISPOSITION
Any person subject to this chapter who, without proper authority--
(1) sells or otherwise disposes of;
(2) willfully ore through neglect damages, destroys, or loses; or
(3) willfully or through neglect suffers to be lost, damaged, sold, or wrongfully disposed of;
any military property of the United States, shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.
909. ART. 109. PROPERTY OTHER THAN MILITARY PROPERTY OF UNITED STATES - WASTE, SPOILAGE, OR DESTRUCTION
Any person subject to this chapter who willfully or recklessly wastes, spoils, or otherwise willfully and wrongfully destroys or damages any property other than military property of the United States shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.

910. ART 110. IMPROPER HAZARDING OF VESSEL
(a) Any person subject to this chapter who willfully and wrongfully hazards or suffers to be hazarded any vessel of the armed forces shall suffer death or such punishment as a court- martial may direct.
(b) Any person subject to this chapter who negligently hazards or suffers to be hazarded any vessel of the armed forces shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.

915. ART 115. MALINGERING
Any person subject to this chapter who for the purpose of avoiding work, duty, or service--
(1) feigns illness, physical disablement, mental lapse or derangement; or
(2) intentionally inflects self-injury;
shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.

[Estragon]

As concerns 915 Art. 115: we can't charge Kerry with feigning derangement.

He really is deranged, after all.