Ron's health worsening [Archive]

oracle

08-10-2002, 06:25 PM

Ron's health worsening (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/wn_report/story/9775p-9237c.html)

WASHINGTON - Former President Ronald Reagan is steadily slipping in his terminal battle with Alzheimer's disease, according to close friends and former associates.
Sources close to the 91-year-old 40th President report that Reagan's mental deterioration has accelerated in recent months.

"He no longer knows who Nancy is," one well-placed source told the Daily News, referring to his wife of 50 years. "Some days he seems to recognize her as someone who's familiar, but most of the time she's just a blank to him."

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Warlady

08-10-2002, 06:26 PM

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The_Sonarman

08-10-2002, 06:45 PM

My Dad is at the same stage, same disease. He was probably one of the smartest people I ever knew, well read on many subjects. I've spent a lifetime trying to equal what he was.

It's a horrible, slow disease. There are promising developments for "a cure" in the near future, but unfortunately those aren't available right now.

I know all too well why Nancy is keeping people away from him. We'll have the memory of what Ronnie was and did, both before and during his Presidency, rather than see what's happening to him now.

**DONOTDELETE**

08-10-2002, 07:45 PM

Sonar sorry to hear your dad is suffering from Alzheimers as well. I agree it is such a sad and dreadful way to end a productive life not to mention heartbreaking for the familyto watch their loved one disappear. My thoughts are with you and yours...

HarvickFan29

08-10-2002, 07:56 PM

It is a cruel disease. I've seen the effects of it firsthand in my own family. It is hard on the care-giver as well because it makes you feel so helpless while the sufferer is so hopeless. I don't wish it on anyone and just hope the future holds promise to ending such a cruel disease.

2nd_Amendment

08-10-2002, 08:35 PM

My grandfather succumbed to it and Parkinsons. He said early on that he wished he had the nerve(or the cowardice he would at times say) to go out and finish it before he became a "potted plant". Personally I think it would have been better for President Reagan to have passed on years ago rather than endure this. I hope, if I ever have to face it, that one way or another I exit before it eats me alive.

HarvickFan29

08-10-2002, 08:39 PM

I totally agree, 2A!

**DONOTDELETE**

08-10-2002, 09:16 PM

It is God's will when and how He calls us.

There is some purpose to President Reagan's condition, though I cant imagine what it is.

I think we should pray for him, and hope for the best.

Suzie

08-10-2002, 09:41 PM

I agree with you rglen, it is not our place to decide when the Lord calls us home. the bible says God will not place any burden on us that we are not strong enough to take. He has left our dear Mr. Reagan here for a reason. When the time comes he will go and not a moment sooner. There is a good story that's an example of when it's your time to go you will in the other news forum I posted just a little while ago. But we can all pray his journey home will be complete soon. images/icons/frown.gif Bless you Ronnie!

Lyta_Alexander

08-10-2002, 11:51 PM

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Hey Oracle I hear something on local LA news talking about this

I understand Ronnie don't know Nancy on some days he slowing going away from this world it is really sad

Report are don't be suprise if Ronnie doesn't last a year

It getting worst images/icons/frown.gif

Westbrook

08-11-2002, 08:13 AM

So, how much did we spend on Alzheimer's research last year?

How much was spent on AIDS research?

I'll guess that the difference in spending was orders of magnitude in favor of AIDS research.

I submit that, for the most part, AIDS is a voluntary disease.

Alzheimers is not.

I submit further that if Alzheimers was a Sodomite disease, you'd see a lot more spending for research there.

The_Sonarman

08-11-2002, 08:17 AM

Thanks Raven.

Pennville_Bill

08-11-2002, 08:34 AM

I've stood three long slow death watches. Alzheimers took my aunt; diabetes and lung cance killed my dad; ALS (Lou Gehrig's Disease) took my father-in-law. I agree with 2ndA; if ever I'm diagnosed with any of these, I'll find my own premature exit. It ain't worth living knowing what it would put my family through.

For all you who have family members facing any of the catastrpohic health crises, you've got my deepest and most sincere sympathy. And if any of you want to talk, feel free to pm me.

Venus

08-11-2002, 02:12 PM

Sonar, I am so very sorry about your dad.

This is truly depressing news about President Reagan.

Perhaps God has kept him alive this long because (pardon this flight of fancy) the world is a safer place with him in it. Do the communist evil-doers tread more cautiously, knowing Reagan's still alive, even though the force of his presence as a threat to their endeavors is really only a psychological perception now? Is the memory of what he accomplished for the free world more freshly imposing on them because he's alive? Perhaps God is waiting for Bush to more fully don the gauntlet before He takes President Reagan home.

West, I'm sure you're right about the funding disparity.

**DONOTDELETE**

09-20-2002, 10:58 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Warlady:
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Though his body is becoming frail, his spirit is still as strong as ever.
There is an old saying, "Legends never die."
So long as there are people like us who care about him, we keep him alive for generations to come.

Warlady

09-20-2002, 11:10 PM

Thank you Godzilla. I just gave you a five star rating for cheering me up.

DoctorDoom

09-21-2002, 02:34 PM

If there is any consolation to be had, the afflicted are the least conscious of it. Those of us (my aunt died of it and my mom is a shell) who must watch it take its toll actually suffer more than its victims in terms of awareness.

If there is good that can come of it, the trials of the Reagans might inspire the country to pay less attention to the "Make my sex safe!" crowd and devote more effort to finding a treatment and cure for this disease.

Radical-Conservative

09-21-2002, 02:40 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by DoctorDoom:
If there is any consolation to be had, the afflicted are the least conscious of it.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Doc My Grandpa knew at least at the onset that something wasnt right

HarvickFan29

09-21-2002, 04:44 PM

Doc wrote:"Those of us who must watch it take its toll actually suffer more than its victims in terms of awareness."

Doc, I gotta agree there. I have lost a Granny and the other one has it bad now. It made me feel so helpless to watch someone in such a hopeless state knowing that it would progressively worsen too. In the beginning, they have good days and bad days. Some days it is as if they are normal. But, knowing how cruel the disease actually is just makes me cringe.

Radical-Conservative

09-21-2002, 04:46 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by HarvickFan29:
It made me feel so helpless to watch someone in such a hopeless state knowing that it would progressively worsen too. In the beginning, they have good days and bad days. Some days it is as if they are normal. But, knowing how cruel the disease actually is just makes me cringe.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I know that feeling Harv images/icons/frown.gif
I got the same feeling when I went to see my grandpa a couple weeks ago

HarvickFan29

09-21-2002, 04:56 PM

I have witnessed some family members die cruelly but I think Alzheimers has to be one of the cruelest, if not the cruelest diseases that I have ever dealt with. Think about it. It slowly eats away at the brain, not allowing people to make simple connections and it has them imagining things that are not happening. It doesn't matter if the person is in tip top physical shape either. It gets to the point where it is hard to separate fact from fiction, even for the care-giver. If I cannot make heads nor tails of something in my mind, I don't want to live.

I wouldn't wish this on anyone, friend or foe.

Radical-Conservative

09-21-2002, 05:00 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by HarvickFan29:
I have witnessed some family members die cruelly but I think Alzheimers has to be one of the cruelest, if not the cruelest diseases
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That and Cancer

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>I wouldn't wish this on anyone, friend or foe.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Me either

Rink

09-22-2002, 03:51 AM

I havent seen the effects of Alzheimers, but I have seen what a succession of strokes did to my granma, it is almost the same thing, she though didnt loose her incredible sense of humor (thank God!) she had em cracking up at the private nursing home all the time.

My dad died ten years ago of Lung cancer, my uncle (my dad's brother died of liver cancer, he was diagnosed and within a week of the diagnosis he died of it).

I hate those two diseases, Cancer & strokes.

I just hate em.

Its good that Nancy Reagan has the help and support there, but not eveyone has that, and alzheimers can drain the hell out of a family and wear out the family caregivers (been there and done it myself, I dont wish that toll on anyone).

It's too bad there isnt some helpful support group for those not blessed with an abundance of money to get the help and care needed, I despise nursing homes with a vengeance (had a very bad experience with my granma).

Most of all, and this is VERY important for any in-home hospice care, people with alzheimers, cancer and strokes need help in their care, and its badly lacking on all fronts.

I've been thru it, it was almost impossible to get and/or keep in-home care.

This needs to be addressed if anything.

Radical-Conservative

09-22-2002, 03:58 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Rink:
I havent seen the effects of Alzheimers, but I have seen what a succession of strokes did to my granma, it is almost the same thing, <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Not even close!

Rink

09-23-2002, 02:10 AM

Actually in the case of my granma it was, she didnt know who we were most of the time.

The_Finman

09-23-2002, 02:57 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Rink:
Actually in the case of my granma it was, she didnt know who we were most of the time.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

When I turned 18 and started local college to get my basic couses out of the way.

My parents retired and moved away and left me the only person to visit my Grandmother in the nursing home. images/icons/frown.gif

I tried to go everyday, but it was so hard...she was in the advanced staged of alzheimers and didn't even know who I was anymore...I would sit there explaining to her for about half and hour that I was her Grandson, and just when I thought I had her understanding I would leave the room for a second to get a drink of water and come back in and have to start all over again. images/icons/frown.gif

She didn't even know who she was or where she was...she seemed to think she was in Wichata Falls where she had grown up and she would repeat childhood sayings. images/icons/frown.gif

It was so cruel. images/icons/frown.gif

That is why I become so enraged at liberals that say Reagan deserves this images/icons/mad.gif ...no one deserves this not even the scum sucking wasted shreds of human debri that wish that on him. images/icons/frown.gif

Radical-Conservative

09-23-2002, 04:54 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>That is why I become so enraged at liberals that say Reagan deserves this ...no one deserves this not even the scum sucking wasted shreds of human debri that wish that on him. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You and me both Fin

HarvickFan29

09-23-2002, 11:14 PM

Finman,

I can certainly relate to what you're saying about your grandmother. The regression was one of the hardest things to deal with.

Anyone who wishes this on anyone else has never seen the devastating effects it has on all parties concerned. images/icons/rolleyes.gif images/icons/frown.gif

Radical-Conservative

09-23-2002, 11:30 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by HarvickFan29:

Anyone who wishes this on anyone else has never seen the devastating effects it has on all parties concerned. images/icons/rolleyes.gif images/icons/frown.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Or is a heartless bastard