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oracle
10-02-2002, 02:04 PM
Who's Politicizing Now? (http://www.nationalreview.com/kurtz/kurtz100202.asp)
<font size=1>The "Baghdad Dems" get a pass from the White House.</font>

Stanley Kurtz

The war is now well and truly politicized — and the Democrats have done it. I watched the sickening performance of Congressmen McDermott and Bonior from Baghdad last Sunday, and couldn't believe my eyes. Where are the condemnations? Why haven't Democrats openly distanced themselves from these foolish and scurrilous remarks? The truth is, Republicans, including most especially the president, have been almost shockingly quiet about this. What McDermott and Bonior said and did was infinitely worse than the remarks that led to Sen. Daschle's angry denunciation of the president on the Senate floor. It is the president who has shown bipartisanship here. But at this point, honor and honesty demand that Bonior and McDermott be called to account for their actions.

Sen. Daschle's angry outburst at the president for politicizing the war had at least a shred of plausibility. The president did say, "the Senate is more interested in the special interests in Washington and not interested in the security of the American people." Certainly it is wrong to say that the Senate of the United States is uninterested in the security of the American people. But as Republican senator Don Nickles pointed out on the same show where McDermott and Bonior made their outrageous remarks, Daschle both misquoted the president, and took his remarks out of context.

The president took a swipe at the Senate as a whole, and not at the Democrats, as Daschle claimed. And just a few sentences later, the president noted that many good Democrats and Republicans were working together to pass a homeland-security bill. No doubt, the president's earlier remark was too pointed, but essentially he was saying that the interests of the public employee unions shouldn't be put ahead of the need for a Department of Homeland Security. Exaggeration for political effect? Sure. But in context, this was clearly not a serious claim that the members of the United States Senate truly cared nothing for the security of the United States.

It is obvious that Senator Daschle and the Democrats had desperately poured over the president's words to find a way to denounce him for politicizing the war. Many said that Daschle's outburst was the angriest denunciation of a president from the Senate floor in years. That anger was entirely disproportionate to the supposed offense. To be blunt, the incident was trumped up.

Now consider the actions of McDermott and Bonior. They gave credence to the lies and propaganda of a vicious despot in his own capital, while publicly impeaching the word of the president of the United States. I haven't seen it mentioned yet, but I was particularly appalled by Bonior's acceptance of Saddam's rationalization for not wanting coercive inspections — that the Iraqi's don't want to have someone knocking on their door while they're immersed in prayer. Does Bonior really believe the goons who run Saddam's (secular) terror-state are lost in prayer as they guard his stockpiles of anthrax? Would it matter if they were?

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**DONOTDELETE**
10-02-2002, 02:19 PM
I haven't seen it mentioned yet, but I was particularly appalled by Bonior's acceptance of Saddam's rationalization for not wanting coercive inspections — that the Iraqi's don't want to have someone knocking on their door while they're immersed in prayer. Does Bonior really believe the goons who run Saddam's (secular) terror-state are lost in prayer as they guard his stockpiles of anthrax? Would it matter if they were?
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That these two congressmen believe Saddam's reasons is amazing. Do they pray 24x7 in Iraq??

SunnyBrook
10-02-2002, 02:30 PM
Originally posted by tacitus:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I haven't seen it mentioned yet, but I was particularly appalled by Bonior's acceptance of Saddam's rationalization for not wanting coercive inspections — that the Iraqi's don't want to have someone knocking on their door while they're immersed in prayer. Does Bonior really believe the goons who run Saddam's (secular) terror-state are lost in prayer as they guard his stockpiles of anthrax? Would it matter if they were?
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That these two congressmen believe Saddam's reasons is amazing. Do they pray 24x7 in Iraq??</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Only when the bombs start falling, Tac. images/icons/grin.gif

Timberwolf
10-02-2002, 05:04 PM
Let me see if I've got that straight. The president was handed an opportunity on a silver platter to politicize the war, yet instead said that he "welcomed the congressmen's opinions," and hoped to work out a bipartisan resolution on the war. I am confident that had the president pulled a Daschle after Bonior and McDermott's remarks, the press would be filled at this moment with the ongoing furor. The Democrats would be on the defensive, and the Republicans would have gained a significant leg up in their neck-and-neck struggle for control of Congress.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Can't say that I would've exercised the same restraint. I would have blasted Dasshole, the Pit Yorkie, and McWormfood back to the Triassic Period. The Prez is a shrewd man and many have underestimated his political saavy...I will not question him because he hasn't been wrong yet with his response(s) to the dimocraps.

PaulRevere
10-02-2002, 05:24 PM
I get the feeling that, when our forces mobilize for war, a group of leftists like Bonior et al will leak information about our plans to Iraq, hoping for heavy US casualties just to make Bush look bad. I'm Serious.

Maggie_T
10-02-2002, 05:28 PM
I wouldn't put it past them, Paul. Not for a minute.

RCRichards
10-02-2002, 05:29 PM
I am totally sure that we already have leftists leaking our plans to our enemies.

Democrats do not care about lives, that's what makes them sick and twisted embarassments to the constitution and America

Westbrook
10-02-2002, 05:29 PM
Bonior and McDermott should be tried for treason.

They have brought aid and comfort to the sworn enemy of the United States.

That is the *VERY DEFINITION* of treason!

RCRichards
10-02-2002, 05:32 PM
Originally posted by Westbrook:
Bonior and McDermott should be tried for treason.

They have brought aid and comfort to the sworn enemy of the United States.

That is the *VERY DEFINITION* of treason!<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">They shouldn't just be tried for treason, they should be executed for treason.

Plain and Simple.

Maggie_T
10-02-2002, 05:33 PM
The truth is, Republicans, including most especially the president, have been almost shockingly quiet about this.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">It's when I read things like this that I become despondent and discouraged.

'pubs (including W) should learn to fight the enemy within before they fight the one without. graemlins/icon119.gif

Venus
10-02-2002, 05:34 PM
Midnight Rider, you get no argument from me.

The only thing stopping them is fear of getting caught. With all the training they've received from the Clinton machine, they'll get by with it. Who's gonna stop them? Trent Lott?

Timberwolf
10-02-2002, 05:54 PM
Paul, he does that and I may just have to shoot him myself...I don't think anyone would bat an eye at executing a treasonous bastard that would deliberately cause harm (death) to befall our men & women overseas (or here at home, for that matter).

If the Yorkie or anyone compromises the safety of our military men & women for any reason, but ESPECIALLY merely for political gain, s/he should be VERY publicly executed. Hanging, guillitine, firing squad, burning at the stake, arsenic poisoning...the possibilities are indeed endless.