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oracle
10-21-2002, 01:21 PM
Good article about Daschle's performance -

Senator Daschle (D., EU) (http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/comment-horner102102.asp)
<font size=1>Dakotan angry that U.S. decides its own positions.

By Christopher C. Horner</font>


We all now know better than to pronounce monumental political ramifications from this event or that stumble. Still, it is difficult to imagine even a sympathetic media ignoring this week's performance by Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle's on Fox News Sunday, particularly should he, in fact, pursue the presidency he is rumored to covet.

Facing the ever-gracious Tony Snow, it is no overstatement that Daschle seemed to abdicate any meaningful concept of U.S. self-determination or sovereignty, largely in the futile name of making others more approving of us. Worse, he radically spun reality to cast the U.S. as "bad guy" in international matters where it is in fact our competitors who bully and dissemble.

Liberals tend to parrot disapproval from our European trade competitors — excuse me, allies — as evidence of their moral superiority. Their bane, of course, encompasses most actions in America's interest. What many Americans seem to have forgotten is that Europeans have their own agenda for us and love American politicians who are willing to help, through the International Criminal Court, energy-rationing Kyoto Protocol, etc. Count Tom Daschle among each of these ranks.

First, consider the following exchange, that in a rational world would make even Daschle blush:

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Not that there's any acceptable circumstance to abdicate sovereign decision-making. Still, consider Kyoto: No U.S. administration has developed or pushed an alternative to Kyoto (nor, incidentally, has Tom Daschle); no U.S administration ever demanded any other country adopt our position. A reality check reminds us, however, that while the courts were sorting out the 2000 U.S. elections, Kyoto negotiations took an ugly turn in The Hague. EU negotiators, sensing that Clinton-Gore negotiators were desperate to lock in a deal, sought to redefine set terms. Specifically, they demanded near elimination of the means by which the U.S. intended to keep its cost of Kyoto below four percent of Gross Domestic Product (according to Clinton's Department of Energy).

Forgive the banality of specifics, but the EU demanded the near elimination of the use of greenhouse-gas "sinks," land-use practices removing GHGs from the atmosphere. Kyoto Article 3 plainly states that sinks "shall be used to meet the commitments under this article." Kyoto compliance, in particular for the U.S., means massive reliance upon sinks, or even more massive energy-tax increases. Always ready to saddle our economy with their burdens, the EU insisted upon near total removal of this mechanism. Thus initiated the U.S.-Kyoto stalemate. The administration that rejected this blackmail was Clinton-Gore.

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In sum, leadership means doing what others want us to do. It means making it more comfortable for Tom Daschle to hang out with fashionable Europeans. It means the U.S. not deciding "on a unilateral basis what the U.S. position is going to be." Tom, you could not have done the public a better service, in the debates over Iraq, Kyoto, or who deserves to be a "leader."

Click here to read more (http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/comment-horner102102.asp)

SunnyBrook
10-22-2002, 12:00 AM
SNOW: I want to ask you about the quote we played for Secretary of State Colin Powell, or actually put up on the screen. I want to read it again and I want to try to parse it, because you were harshly critical the other day at the Bush administration's foreign policy. Once again you said, "I don't know if we've ever seen a more precipitous drop in international stature and public opinion with regard to this country as we have in the last two years."

Typically, people cite several things with regard to this. One was the Kyoto protocol, correct?

DASCHLE: Correct.

SNOW: You voted against that.

DASCHLE: I did.

SNOW: OK. The International Criminal Court, you voted against that.

DASCHLE: That's correct.

SNOW: And Iraq, where you voted with the president.

So on all these key issues, the ones that the Europeans are constantly citing, you're on the same side as the White House. So if you were president, would the same thing be the case?

DASCHLE: Well, it's not necessarily the position in that legislative approach that I think is the concern. It's the attitude. It's the way that we have gone about foreign policy, especially, Tony, this unilateral approach to foreign policy, dictating on a unilateral basis what the United States' position is going to be and expecting, really, all these countries in a very autocratic or very authoritarian way to comply.

I don't think we can do that. I think, as I said in the same interview, I think that we've learned that this unilateral, dictatorial approach isn't going to work. And so we've moved away from that. We're more engaged now in the United Nations, we're more engaged, as Secretary Powell noted, in the Korean matter. And so I think they've learned the hard way. But clearly they have learned the unilateral, dictatorial approach utilized for the first 18 months did not work, and I think they've accepted it.

SNOW: How can you say the United States has been dictatorial? We've made our position known. We haven't forced anybody along, have we?

DASCHLE: Well, I think by the very nature of who the United States is, by the very nature of our approach in these negotiations — I mean, basically in the Kyoto accords it was, "Look, you do it our way or we're not going to do it at all." There was no negotiation. This was, "This is the way it's going to be." That's the way we did it in the Middle East. That's the way we've done it in virtually every one of these instances.

And I think that, as you travel, and I know you have internationally, the feedback you get is, and the editorial comment, go through Europe, go through the Middle East, go through Africa, go through Southern Asia, go through most of Latin America today, it is almost universally negative.

DASCHLE: And what I'm saying is that, sooner or later, Tony, that's going to catch up with us.

SNOW: All right...

DASCHLE: Sooner or later, that's going to be a real problem that we are going to have to cope with in ways that we can't foresee today.

SNOW: Do you not also think that some politicians, frankly, have been grandstanding at the expense of the United States, including the chancellor of Germany?

DASCHLE: Well, I disagreed with the chancellor of Germany in this case. Whether he's grandstanding or not is something I'm not in a position to be able to say.

SNOW: You're a politician. You see grandstanding all the time. You know how this works.

DASCHLE: But I will tell you this. I think that he represented, clearly, a point of view in Germany that must have been the majority, because he won as a result of that position.

And so I think — all I'm saying, and what I was saying in that interview, is that we need to be very, very careful as we build these international coalitions, we need to continue to ensure that we do what the president said he was going to before he was president. He said we've got to be humble in our foreign policy, we've got to work with others and be empathetic with the situation other countries are facing.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Love that Tony Snow!

Daschle is a sniveling wuss.

FOUND HERE (http://foxnews.com/story/0,2933,66236,00.html)

**DONOTDELETE**
10-22-2002, 12:23 AM
This is the twit that would be president! Spare us from loonies such as Tom that feel they could have done a better job than GW. This dolt can't be serious - can he?

Large_Al
11-03-2002, 08:40 AM
Dear Tom Just looked in the Dictionary and found you.

lead·er Pronunciation Key (ldr)
n.
1. One that leads or guides.
2. One who is in charge or in command of others.
3.
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fol·low·er Pronunciation Key (fl-r)
n.
1. One who subscribes to the teachings or methods of another; an adherent: a follower of Gandhi.
2. A servant; a subordinate.

3.
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Pennville_Bill
11-03-2002, 11:48 AM
http://www.cyberkook.com/pics/6427.jpg

AtomicLibSmasher
11-06-2002, 08:39 PM
http://cyberkook.com/pics/buhbyedasshole.jpg

CatKozTX
01-08-2003, 02:56 PM
Okay....this is my first post, as I have been lurking for sometime...but I just had to share this pic of Puff Daschle that a friend emailed to me.... it pretty well speaks for itself.

http://home.elp.rr.com/kozfam/daschle_tutu.jpg

Radical-Conservative
01-09-2003, 05:20 AM
Welcome to FC <font color="red">CAT</font color>!

DesertFox
02-01-2003, 04:44 PM
Welcome to FreeConservatives, CatKoz.