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Webruary
08-12-2004, 01:15 PM
N.J. Governor McGreevey To Resign (http://www.wnbc.com/politics/3648220/detail.html)
See also : www.drudgereport.com (http://www.drudgereport.com)
NEW YORK -- NewsChannel 4 has learned that New Jersey Gov. James McGreevey is planning on stepping down from office after more than 2 years of service.
McGreevey, a former prosecutor, came into office vowing to end corruption, but in recent months a number of his political aides and fundraisers have been accused of corruption ranging from alleged payoffs to hiring a prostitute.
McGreevey has not been accused of any wrongdoing...
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Why should HE take the blame for others wrongs?
he should fire THEM and find better than what he had before
Large_Al
08-12-2004, 02:25 PM
I'm getting the news that he was having sex with his former Security adviser who happens to be another man. Rumor has it said advisor filed a lawsuit. I wonder how his wife and kids are going to take it??
Chris
08-12-2004, 02:41 PM
They're talking about this on Cavutto right now.
Hottjohn
08-12-2004, 02:53 PM
He's a bloody butt slammer! What a riot. And he was packing fudge with his security advisor who is now suing him! How could a man do that to his wife and kids! David Boren at least got away with it when his first wife found out and then he served in the Senate and now is the president of the University of Oklahoma. New Jersey politics is just way too sleazy for me. Give me Texas anytime, especially since the Rats are no longer in charge.
Apollo5600
08-12-2004, 02:56 PM
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I feel sorry for his wife and kids, and I bet he won't get the redicule he deserves for what hes done to them.
Ugh how can his wife stand him any second longer????
NO bloody thank yew, he not only needs to quit, he needs to have his ass kicked by his wife and kids for his infidelity.
That woman needs to divorce him and sue him for all its worth for alimony this is rediculous.
How can a man be married and be a fag at the same time?
(pssst I'll tell ya, political expediency)
shawnwood
08-12-2004, 03:04 PM
Listening to this on Hannity, I have no idea if the feed I have is live, but has anyone else talked about the fast one he is trying to pull? Something to the effect that since his final day will be withing 60 days of the election, that would mean there will be no election for this and I assume that he can name a democrate replacement. Hannity was also talking about a republican that would like to run and would have a great chance of winning. Will wait to see how this unfolds.
Chris
08-12-2004, 03:05 PM
McGreevey Discloses Homosexuality, Announces Resignation Plans (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,128836,00.html)
Thursday, August 12, 2004
TRENTON, N.J. — Gov. James E. McGreevey announced Thursday that he is a gay man who had an adulterous relationship and, therefore, will resign his office on Nov. 15.
"At a point in every person's life, one has to look into the mirror of a person's soul. ... My truth is that I am a gay American," McGreevey said during a press conference, with his wife by his side and his parents behind him.
McGreevey disclosed that he had "shamefully engaged" in an affair with a man behind his wife's back but did not disclose who was involved. He said it was "wrong, foolish, inexcusable and for this I ask the forgiveness and the embrace of my wife."
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BEST45CAL
08-12-2004, 03:10 PM
I don't know why everybody is shocked. This is typical dimocrat behavior. It would be shocking if the guy was a republican.
newrepublican
08-12-2004, 03:18 PM
You know I bet there is more to this. If it was just an affair their is no way he would step down. I bet he like raped a guy.
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Apollo5600
08-12-2004, 03:22 PM
So why is his security advisor suing him?
Edit: Oops, nevermind, finnaly clicked the link to drudge.
Maggie_T
08-12-2004, 03:31 PM
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BEST45CAL said:
I don't know why everybody is shocked. This is typical dimocrat behavior. It would be shocking if the guy was a republican.
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ABSOLUTELY! On the Howie Carr talk show, BB, the guy sitting for Howie, was all agog over this. I kept aksing myself WHY? Its' what democRATS do. Why the fuss? And I would have gone on the phone and told him, but Sandy, that liberal bitch, unilaterally decided to ban me from the program, so every time I call, she recognizes me and either tells me directly to "shove it", or she makes me wait so long that the program finally ends.
And mark me. Because he is a "gay American" he's going to get all sorts of passes from the lamestream media, et al. And if anyone says anything against him, it's going to be hate speech. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif
The one who must be toasting with champagne must be Kerry. This shifts the spot light away from him, if only temporarily.
And so it goes.
UnkHiram
08-12-2004, 03:52 PM
I have no problem with Govenor McGreevey resigning. Just like I have no problem with Govenor McGreevey being Gay, so long as he keeps his private life out of the Govenor's Mansion. On the other hand since the Govenor has announced his retirement on August 12th, he should make it effective ASAP. The only reason they are delaying his leaving office is so that their wont be a Govenor's Election this November.
Webruary
08-12-2004, 03:56 PM
Heads up conservatives, you know what this means -- One of the most qualified of men ( the second coming of Ronald Reagan ), Brett Schundler, the man who turned around the decrepit Jersey City making it competitive and viable again, the man who should have won had the fools in NJ not been seduced by the lies of McGreevey/Torricelli/Lautenberg, can be governor.
This man believe me, is presidential material in 4 to 8 years.
Tlaloc
08-12-2004, 04:02 PM
"I don't know why everybody is shocked. This is typical dimocrat behavior. It would be shocking if the guy was a republican."
*prepare to be shocked*
You mean like Bob Packwood?
Estragon
08-12-2004, 04:10 PM
That the best you can do?
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Tlaloc
08-12-2004, 05:12 PM
"That the best you can do?"
No just the first one to pop into my head. Aren't you going to now claim Packwood isn't a repulican like poindexter isn't a politician?
ThomasIsUnderrated
08-12-2004, 05:29 PM
Large Al is correct. Apparently, McGreevey gave a very important position to a man who was entirely unqualified for the job. Who was that man? You guessed it: McGreevey's boy-toy. That man has since filed a lawsuit, and I'd be shocked if there weren't a few criminal investigations going on in the near future.
Personally I feel bad for McGreevy's wife and children, they have got to be shocked and embarrassed to find this out about a man they thought was a decent father and husband.
dajoga
08-12-2004, 07:19 PM
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Large Al is correct. Apparently, McGreevey gave a very important position to a man who was entirely unqualified for the job. Who was that man? You guessed it: McGreevey's boy-toy. That man has since filed a lawsuit, and I'd be shocked if there weren't a few criminal investigations going on in the near future.
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That boy-toy was getting $110K salary if I heard Bill O' right tonight!
Wyatt_Junker
08-12-2004, 07:27 PM
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How can a man be married and be a fag at the same time?
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I thought libs said faggatology wasn't a choice.
Estragon
08-12-2004, 09:38 PM
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Tlaloc said:
"That the best you can do?"
No just the first one to pop into my head. Aren't you going to now claim Packwood isn't a repulican like poindexter isn't a politician?
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No, but it's a lousy comparison. Packwood was a kissing bandit, but wasn't accused of adultery. You could have chosen Newt or Phil Crane as a Republican example, with more impact.
As usual, the left never tries to defend their guys, they always answer with an attack on somebody else, to try to change the subject.
If you're gonna do it, at least do it right.
dajoga
08-13-2004, 07:28 AM
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Tlaloc said:
"I don't know why everybody is shocked. This is typical dimocrat behavior. It would be shocking if the guy was a republican."
*prepare to be shocked*
You mean like Bob Packwood?
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No doubt both parties have their examples, but it seems much more prevalent and involves widespread corruption within 'rat circles.
Packwood was a jerk, but was there deepseated corruption like in NJ?
Riverboat
08-13-2004, 10:12 AM
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Tlaloc said: *prepare to be shocked*
You mean like Bob Packwood?
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Packwood was a predatory skirt-chaser, but at least women were wearing the skirts.
Antigone
08-13-2004, 11:00 AM
Not to mention Packwood wasn't trying to cover-up corruption and play the "pity me I am gay" card.
ThomasIsUnderrated
08-13-2004, 11:02 AM
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Antigone said:
Not to mention Packwood wasn't trying to cover-up corruption and play the "pity me I am gay" card.
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Bingo!
Tlaloc
08-13-2004, 01:07 PM
"Packwood was a predatory skirt-chaser, but at least women were wearing the skirts."
So is sexually assaulting a score of women better or worse than having one gay relationship? Just curious.
ThomasIsUnderrated
08-13-2004, 03:45 PM
The plot thickens. The former employee now says that McGreevey is doing a smear campaign against him (maybe the Governor never actually got into his pants?), and that he (the Governor) made inappropriate advances on him.
shawnwood
08-13-2004, 04:02 PM
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Tlaloc said:
"Packwood was a predatory skirt-chaser, but at least women were wearing the skirts."
So is sexually assaulting a score of women better or worse than having one gay relationship? Just curious.
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No but giving your boy toy a high level security job to your boytoy, is. This is not about his "gay" relationship. It is about what we will start to learn about this in the coming days.
On a side note, I guess the Dems have another buzz word to use now. They are no longer homosexual, they are "gay Americans". Great!!!
Tlaloc
08-13-2004, 04:22 PM
"No but giving your boy toy a high level security job to your boytoy, is. "
While I agree that if the guy was unqualified and only got the job because of their relationship (has this been proven I haven't been following it) its a big deal, I still think actually molesting people is worse. The first represents an unacceptable risk, the second an actual violation.
shawnwood
08-13-2004, 04:32 PM
There it is! I am listening to the web feed of Sean Hannity and he is talking about it. In 2002 Louis Freeh was going to take the NON-paying head of homeland security task force job, but it was declined by McGreevey who had other plans! To give a high paying job to this guy he met out of the country. This is getting good.
Tlaloc, stay tuned, there is more and more about this trickling out. If what I have heard thus far is true, this guy needs is in deep crap! I mean what kind of of security risk does it pose to hire someone from another country to be the head of your branch of homeland security?
shawnwood
08-13-2004, 04:37 PM
Correction - He was not hired as the head, but he was hired as an advisor.
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Mr. Cipel was hired by the governor in 2002 as an adviser to the state Office of Homeland Security. He resigned eight months later as a special adviser to the governor, at a salary of $110,000. The aides said Mr. Cipel had threatened to file a lawsuit accusing the governor of sexual harassment.
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From here........ http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/13/nyregion/13CND-MCGREEVEY.html
I love the picture of his wife!
dajoga
08-13-2004, 06:33 PM
All this about McGreevey doing the "right" thing by telling the truth is /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bsflag.gif Doing the right thing would be resigning ASAP. But no, the 'rats want power no matter what! To them a crooked 'rat is better than an honest 'pub.
UnkHiram
08-13-2004, 07:39 PM
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Tlaloc said:
"Packwood was a predatory skirt-chaser, but at least women were wearing the skirts."
So is sexually assaulting a score of women better or worse than having one gay relationship? Just curious.
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I just love the way you pick one comment and try to change the subject. If you notice nobody defended Packwood. He was a scumbag. On the other Hand Govenor McGayvey may set a new standard for curroption in New Jersey politics.
Estragon
08-13-2004, 07:45 PM
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shawnwood said:
From here........ http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/13/nyregion/13CND-MCGREEVEY.html
I love the picture of his wife!
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When they came out to the podium, she was grinning like they had just won an election or something. Guess this means they'll have to pull all the McGreevy family "Vacation in Jersey!" ads that have been flooding the NYC market for months . . .
All this "doing the right thing" talk is premature. McG is trying to forestall prison time by resigning. He is still under investigation, and although he has not yet been indicted, two of his top fundraisers have been, and his name is mentioned over 80 times in those two indictments. This is the tip of the iceberg.
checkers
08-13-2004, 08:00 PM
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Tlaloc said:
"No but giving your boy toy a high level security job to your boytoy, is. "
While I agree that if the guy was unqualified and only got the job because of their relationship (has this been proven I haven't been following it) its a big deal, I still think actually molesting people is worse. The first represents an unacceptable risk, the second an actual violation.
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How do you feel about a State Attorney General raping the head of a nursing home?
Suzie
08-13-2004, 08:31 PM
Why should we even expect the dems to care 2 hoots about this? NOW and all the other feminist/lesbian groups didn't care that we had a married PRESIDENT playing squirt with a 20 year old who by his own admission he only had service him and had no intrest in what she got out of it. Then when he dismissed it as just a way of getting what he wanted, he threw "that woman" to the wolves and not a peep could be heard by the feminist gang. If anything advances immoral and deviant behavior they are all for it. You can have sex with anyone or anything and if it produces a child you should murder it. That's the main democratic platform isn't it? I am betting you will soon see the gay groups demanding that he stay in office. Sickening! I wonder if his wife knew this about him. Don't worry about the kids, they will have them brain washed and they will think this is all okay. Isn't that what they did with John Walker Lind, and look how well he turned out. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif
Curtman
08-13-2004, 09:16 PM
Until I hear that his wife is a dyke and took a role in his faggotism, I am going to consider her a victim and therefore feel sorry for her. Another good womans life destroyed by a fruiter.
Curtman
08-13-2004, 09:22 PM
Just think folks, how much the state of New Jersey has paid and is going to pay for the lewinski recieved or giving ewww.......
dajoga
08-13-2004, 11:02 PM
As Jay Leno said, "Finally we have a Democrat who can honestly say, 'I didn't have sex with that woman!'" /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/roar.gif
Suzie
08-13-2004, 11:21 PM
When in NJ going to give up on these democrats?? You would think after Torricelli and this they would be afraid to try another dem.
abestreet
08-14-2004, 01:06 AM
This guy is a real loser. He used his wife to give him the appearance he needed to advance politically. He used his kid the same way. Why did he not come out of the closet sooner, before his political career gained steam? Did he just now, at age 47, discover he was gay?
This guy is a user. He used his wife and kid for politicaly purposes and, it appears, he promoted his male lover out of selfish reasons. IMO, he only made a big deal out of the fact that he is gay because it helps divert the publics attention from the other charges of corruption. So, it would seem, he is using the homosexual community to hide his evil doings behind.
What kills me about the Dems is the fact that none of them, to my knowledge, have come forward and condemed this guys actions. Although I hear he may have been receiving pressure, behind closed doors, from his party members to step down. If so, I'm sure his entire speech was crafted in such a way to minimize the impact to the Dem party.
Unfortunately this type of story no longer surprises me. Stories of corruption mixed with sexual misconduct are all to common. I some times feel like "Who cares? They're all a bunch of liars!" This is a shame because I do care and I'm sure many politicians do honor their marriage vows and try to carry out their duties in an honorable manner. It's a shame that selfish pricks, like Gov. James McGreevey ruin the image for their fellow politicians. I hope McGreevey gets a lot of jail time. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon20.gif
Suzie
08-14-2004, 09:24 AM
Wel,l he should certainly be popular in prison. His wife is very pretty, but I imagine she will have a tough time finding another man that would want her after the increased risk of having sex with a gay man that was trying to keep it secret. You would have to wonder how many other lovers he has had and what he might have brought home to their bed. Unless this is the first time he has acted on it he would have to sneaking around to keep it from becoming public, so he may not have made the best choices in partners, people he doesn't know and that wouldn't know him. But even if he says this is the first time, how many of you would believe it enough to start a relationship with his wife?
HomeschoolrsRUs
08-14-2004, 10:29 AM
My heart naturally wants to extend sympathy and concern for his wife and family, but my brain wants to ask a few questions. I really have a hard time understanding how one could HIDE a thing like homosexuality from those closest to you. You know, in abuse cases, it is most often KNOWN by the family but they refuse to face the facts, see the signs, or acknowledge the truth. I am not trying to associate abuse with homosexuality, but they both are deviant BEHAVIORS. If this guy has "known" all along he was homosexual, then there should be, and probably will proved to be, instances of OTHER homosexual liason's. If that proves to be the case, how do you continually hide such things, without help?
Also, IF this man REALLY wanted a "normal" life to cover up his homosexuality so that he could pursue political office and gain, this is a big deal. It shows premeditation and calculation -- which to me also indicates some cooperation. There may be some complicity in this.
I mean think about it, I have always wondered WHY Hillary has stayed with Bill ... he has cheated over, and over, and over, and over, and showed NO indication that he would change. To me that says, I can gain more (politically, sypmathetically, etc.) by staying with him than leaving him. Could this be the same for McGreevey's wife?
My prayers go out for the true victims in this -- whoever they may be. But I am DEFINITELY interested in hearing "the rest of the story," as Paul Harvey would say.
Maggie_T
08-14-2004, 12:33 PM
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Tlaloc said:
... I still think actually molesting people is worse. The first represents an unacceptable risk, the second an actual violation.
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Quite right, tlaloc. Based on that, I'm sure you were apalled by Clinton's behavior and believed Juanita Broderick's every word.
checkers
08-14-2004, 02:57 PM
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checkers said:
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Tlaloc said:
"No but giving your boy toy a high level security job to your boytoy, is. "
While I agree that if the guy was unqualified and only got the job because of their relationship (has this been proven I haven't been following it) its a big deal, I still think actually molesting people is worse. The first represents an unacceptable risk, the second an actual violation.
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How do you feel about a State Attorney General raping the head of a nursing home?
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No response?
Large_Al
08-14-2004, 03:52 PM
First something that would piss me off if I lived in Jersey....
Putting the whole State of N.J. at risk for somebody who wasn't qualified just so he could have his own Boy Toy is inexcusable. I'm sorry Bob Packwood is a jerk but this asshole should be locked up.
Now for the lighter side.... and I'm working blue here...OK I'm going to get in trouble..
They just change the NJ state bird to the "Swallow".
The Garden State Parkway has been changed to the Hershey Highway.
The Democratic Party is upset because they misunderstood him when he said he didn't like Bush.
And it shouldn't be any problem for Jimmy Mac to move out of the Governors residence because his $hit is already packed...
I need a rimshot here.
shawnwood
08-16-2004, 09:08 AM
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The Democratic Party is upset because they misunderstood him when he said he didn't like Bush.
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LMAO!!!!!!!!!!
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