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Naturalized-Texan
08-18-2004, 07:27 PM
September 11 Attack Images and Graphics (http://www.september11news.com/AttackImages.htm)

This site is an excellent reminder of why we must continue to fight the War on Terrorism no matter where it may lead. It includes a 9/11 timeline, WTC images, Pentagon images, terrorists' images, etc.

Rink
08-18-2004, 08:14 PM
An ya wonder why I will never have ANY respect for Islam???

I have YET to hear them roundly condemn the WTC 9/11 attacks.... YET!

Liberty2000
08-19-2004, 12:49 AM
The "war" on terrorism will go wherever Haliburton says, and you know it meanwhile America is just as vunerable as it was in 2001.

Rink
08-19-2004, 01:46 AM
Haliburton didnt slam planeloads of people into the WTC

Adherents to ISLAM did

Jeffrho
08-19-2004, 06:13 AM
Liberty2000 said: The "war" on terrorism will go wherever Haliburton says, and you know it meanwhile America is just as vunerable as it was in 2001.

Another member of the idiot brigade removes his tongue from Michael Moore's ass just long enough to enlighten us with his brilliance.

Large_Al
08-19-2004, 07:48 AM
Liberty2000 said: The "war" on terrorism will go wherever Haliburton says, and you know it meanwhile America is just as vunerable as it was in 2001.

Did you bang your head or something??

NT Fantastick site thanks a bunch.

Here is a link somebody sent me

Maggie_T
08-19-2004, 03:55 PM
Guys, remember that ALL the liberals have to stand on is lies, lies, lies. Haliburton is just one example. They cannot talk about their dem candidate because he is a fraud and a cheat. They cannot talk about the economy because it's getting better every day. They cannot talk about Bush's "lies" because Kerry said the same things when Clinton was in office. And they cannot talk about terrorists because liberals worship them.

So all liberals can do is bury their head up their wazoo, spread their lies and pretend they believe them.

HomeschoolrsRUs
08-19-2004, 04:08 PM
Maggie,

But HOW in the world do they keep convincing themselves that THEY are on the side of right? In almost every conversation I have ever had with a liberal after pointing out the falsity of their position, they STILL manage to splutter and pontificate on the superiority and supremacy of the democrat party, their candidate, etc.

The only thing I can come up with is that in their heart of hearts (and I'm talking regular Joe democrats here), they believe that their party is the party and position of compassion. They want to do the best for everyone, while in reality they are only destroying everyone.

I shake my head every day in utter amazement at the things I see, hear, and read. Just last night I watched a bit of a debate between the Republican spokesman (don't remember his official position or that of the other fellow) and a democrat spokesman debating the veracity of their candidate's position(s). The Republican guy was calm, cool and collected. He spoke plainly but succinctly. He stayed on point and seemed at ease in that particular forum. The democrat on the other hand appeared to be teeming with anger and fury -- every answer was given in a choppy, hastily spewed manner with enough venom to kill a bull. He looked uncomfortable, and ready to start swinging at any minute. I could only watch about 10 minutes of that (till the commercial break) and I had to switch the channels.

Sigh, the next couple of months are really going to be a rollercoaster ride.

Maggie_T
08-19-2004, 04:29 PM
Darling, you give them more credit than I do.

I sincerely believe that the regular Joe dems are NOT the majority. The dem party has been taken hostage by the hard-core left. I will repeat this till the very end. It drives lefties up the walls, but I don't give a damn.

The only thing that drives them is their pathological hatred for Bush. You must not forget that. These self-described "caring and compassionate" people are capable of the most extreme hatred and their behavior towards Bush proves me right every day. But don't take my word for it. Whenever you criticize Kerry, how does the left react? All they do is come back with "But Bush ..." They NEVER can prove that the "Kerry haters" are wrong, so they don't even try. They only bleat "But Bush ..."

Never mind how they phrase it, never forget that all they want is to get rid of Bush and to put a democrat in the WH again. And if it's a radical lefty like Kerry, so much the better. No matter if he is a cheat and a liar. Clinton was the same and they still worship him.

The left want this country to become a socialist country. They want homos to be recognized as normal, they want God out of our country and out of our lives, they want their laundry list of entitlements, etc., etc.

That's why I put a new message in my sig line. I will strive to send out the message that the democrat party has become the party of hatred. I work on it every day. I don't care how many libs revile me. It's my goal to make people understand what's going on.

And I want to express my gratitude to the left for daily proving me right. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Rink
08-19-2004, 04:34 PM
Reminds me of what this one fella said of my bumper sticker that says "Algore is a risky scheme'

He quickly stated 'Yes algore IS a risky scheme, but Bush was a thief!' and promptly and quickly left asap LOLOLOL

nosferatuscoffin
08-19-2004, 04:40 PM
Good stuff there, ladies. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Mags, you just keep splatting those bastards with the point hell of your shoes until they cry "uncle" and then press even harder. These societal malignent tumors need to be eradicated at every turn and making them bitch, moan and bloviate helps in that matter as it only exposes them to more and more people everyday.

As for Joe Dem, they do not exist anymore, just as the Scoop Jackson wing of the Dem Party died with him. The party was hijacked by the anti-war left in 1972 and that drove quite a few of Joes over to Nixon, becoming part of his "Silent Majority". Things did not get any better after 4 years of Jimmy Peanut and the Reagan Dem was born. They were able to staunch some of that loss with Bill and his :New Democrat" BS.

But now, even as bad as Bill and Co. were, the total hijacking and terrorizing of the Dem party by the Mullahs of the Terrorist Left such as Moore, Rall and their ilk has made the expungment of the average Joe Dem complete.

Ladies and Gentleman, Moore and Co ARE the Democratic Party today. You Dems better just live with it, or wise up and leave the party.

WavingGirl
08-20-2004, 08:21 PM
I post this shameful 'Oath of Resistance' as a reminder that we have some Individuals in this country that Just Don't Get It---God Save Us All.

Michael Moore, Sarandon, Robbins, Sheen, Clooney, Streisand---and so many others---How Can You Believe As You Do?


and I'm a Moderate---with a Liberal Streak.
-------------------------------------------->



The Oath of Resistance/NotinourName

We believe that as people living
in the United States it is our
responsibility to resist the injustices
done by our government,
in our names

Not in our name
will you wage endless war
there can be no more deaths
no more transfusions
of blood for oil

Not in our name
will you invade countries
bomb civilians, kill more children
letting history take its course
over the graves of the nameless

Not in our name
will you erode the very freedoms
you have claimed to fight for

Not by our hands
will we supply weapons and funding
for the annihilation of families
on foreign soil

Not by our mouths
will we let fear silence us

Not by our hearts
will we allow whole peoples
or countries to be deemed evil

Not by our will
and Not in our name

We pledge resistance

We pledge alliance with those
who have come under attack
for voicing opposition to the war
or for their religion or ethnicity

We pledge to make common cause
with the people of the world
to bring about justice,
freedom and peace

Another world is possible
and we pledge to make it real.

Maggie_T
08-21-2004, 12:19 PM
What a mushy, mealy-mouthed, self-righteous, fraudulent, hypocritical load of lefist crap. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon120.gif

HomeschoolrsRUs
08-21-2004, 01:16 PM
Maggie_T said: I sincerely believe that the regular Joe dems are NOT the majority. The dem party has been taken hostage by the hard-core left.

But see Sis, that's what I don't understand. I mean, I am completely surrounded by registered democrats in my town. I have to live, work, and interact with them on a daily basis. Those that actually WILL speak to me (re: politics), are good people, but they don't seem to grasp the actuality of WHAT the party they support represents. They will tell me how we should be taking care of those less fortunate, that it is not fair when people are without insurance (which I am one, by the way -- which is really hard for them to understand how I can be a conservative), that children should live without fear of child abuse, lack of food and / or shelter, and be raised by loving, caring parents.

BUT when I talk politics with them they denounce the Republican party as the party of the rich and uncaring. When I try explain things, they reply that I make sense, but that the Democrats are really the party "of the people, by the people, and for the people." They just don't get it!

HOW do we reach THOSE types of people? They DON'T take the time (and insist they don't HAVE the time) to research, find out about all the candidates including theirs, and don't need to because they "know" the democrat party is the right one because their whole family votes that way. Now I don't want to say these people aren't intelligent, I don't want to accuse them of being lazy, and I don't want to point out that just because something USED to be right doesn't make it so today -- but without doing that, how do I get through to them?

I do believe that the majority mind-set of this country IS conservative, I really do. What I don't understand is how they can ignore their mind-set and vote party instead. How can they NOT see that the RADICAL faction of their party has high-jacked the entire democrat part of the political spectrum?

Triller
08-21-2004, 06:49 PM
I agree with what HomeschoolrsRUs says.

Liberal parties do not mind utilising damaging policies to appeal to minority groups. State hand-outs, open borders, to name just two. It is this behaviour that gets people believing they are caring for minorities.

Conservatives are more restrained and so are viewed as being the ones holding minorities back. Many people do not think the liberal policies through enough to know they are ridiculous. That is unfortunately why I doubt most people do have a conservative mind-set. I reckon most people will simply never want to think enough to be able to get one. They vote simply because of the party stereotypes, or just because they have no whims about getting something for free even if it is at the expense of the country.

WavingGirl
08-21-2004, 09:16 PM
Maggie_T said: What a mushy, mealy-mouthed, self-righteous, fraudulent, hypocritical load of lefist crap.

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Yes--just think of Woody Harrelson speaking these words...what lofty ideals he has. Or perhaps ---Britney--such a Deep Thinker.

I asked on another forum where there are posters from across the globe which country would like to have some of our 'Special' people.

No response yet.

Where would they be Welcome---they don't 'Do' much--and they cannot live unless they Have Their Way...

So it looks like we are Stuck With Them.

sls

Maggie_T
08-22-2004, 10:47 AM
HomeschoolrsRUs said:
Maggie_T said:
I sincerely believe that the regular Joe dems are NOT the majority. The dem party has been taken hostage by the hard-core left.

But see Sis, that's what I don't understand. I mean, I am completely surrounded by registered democrats in my town. I have to live, work, and interact with them on a daily basis. Those that actually WILL speak to me (re: politics), are good people, but they don't seem to grasp the actuality of WHAT the party they support represents.

They will tell me how we should be taking care of those less fortunate, that it is not fair when people are without insurance (which I am one, by the way -- which is really hard for them to understand how I can be a conservative), that children should live without fear of child abuse, lack of food and / or shelter, and be raised by loving, caring parents.

BUT when I talk politics with them they denounce the Republican party as the party of the rich and uncaring. When I try explain things, they reply that I make sense, but that the Democrats are really the party "of the people, by the people, and for the people." They just don't get it!

HOW do we reach THOSE types of people? They DON'T take the time (and insist they don't HAVE the time) to research, find out about all the candidates including theirs, and don't need to because they "know" the democrat party is the right one because their whole family votes that way.

And there you nailed the problem right on the head, love. I have exactly the same problem here in Socialist Maine. At work, for instance. My boss is a Republican (God bless him) and there are two or three more employees who are also Republicans - apart from yours truly, that is. That just about constitutes 50% of the Republicans in this benighted state, by the way. The rest of them are all democrats. Half of those are confirmed unapologetic Bush-haters. The rest are as clueless as rocks. They say they do not hate Bush (yes, their type still exists), but they just don't agree with Republican ideas. Fair enough. But when I try to point out to them that their party has been taken hostage by the hard-core left, they look at me as if I'd suddenly grown wings. Just as you say, they don't GET it. And don't ask me how to reach to them. I don't think we can and here's why: they don't bother to take the time to research. Again, as you said.

My goodness, Home, I tell them the latest bit of news and they don't know about it! Do you realize what that means? They don't read the paper, except for the Pravda Press Herald, they are more interested in local news - which is all about democrats bleating that they need more money ... and more money ... and more money. For "the children," you understand.

They don't watch O'Reilly, or Hannity and Cole, or any of the other newsworthy channels. One must reach the conclusion that they don't care. So, unlike you, I cannot help thinking that yes, they ARE lazy. They live in their own little world, they can't think of the country past the state of Maine, they just don't care. It's part of the "bread and circus" mentality that the democrats have corrupted this country with. They seem to believe that Washington is some kind of Mount Olympus and therefore, whatever happens there is so beyond them, that they don't bother. "Oh, all politicians are the same" is the most I get from them. And if I push harder, then I get the usual hate drivel that every liberal spews. Do you understand what I'm getting to here? They are totally uninvolved, uninterested, clueless. And when you press them, they automatically regurgitate what they read in the Pravda Press Herald, which is so biased toward democrats it's not even funny anymore.

And that's the problem. People these days are too involved in what I call the "I, Me, Mine" factor. They only care about themselves. The country can go to hell because "all politicians are the same" anyway. Just give them the latest reality show, enough junk food to keep them happy and they're all set. Problems? Oh, the government will take care of those. And we have the bloody left to thank for that ... as usual. I do believe that the majority mind-set of this country IS conservative, I really do. What I don't understand is how they can ignore their mind-set and vote party instead. How can they NOT see that the RADICAL faction of their party has high-jacked the entire democrat part of the political spectrum?

Because that's where the above-mentioned "I, Me, Mine" factor comes in. For the past 40+ years, democrats have been telling them that Nanny Government will take care of them. So all they have to do is tell them that they are "entitled," they are "owed to," it's their "right," etc., etc., and they immediately vote the party.

What can I tell you, sis? It's part of the dumbing down of America.

The unfortunate part is that those who DO care about the country, those who believe in getting the government out of their lives and their pockets, those who believe that freedom is not just marrying someone of your own sex - in other words, you and I, dear - have to pay for the laziness and dumbness of the sheeple.

And so it goes.

It will take time, Home. It will take a lot of time. Remember, the left has had 40+ years to do their damage. We won't undo that overnight. That's why we MUST persevere. We have to, for the good of the country.

Maggie_T
08-22-2004, 10:48 AM
WavingGirl said: Maggie_T said:
What a mushy, mealy-mouthed, self-righteous, fraudulent, hypocritical load of lefist crap. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon120.gif

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Yes--just think of Woody Harrelson speaking these words...what lofty ideals he has. Or perhaps ---Britney--such a Deep Thinker.

I asked on another forum where there are posters from across the globe which country would like to have some of our 'Special' people.

No response yet.

Where would they be Welcome---they don't 'Do' much--and they cannot live unless they Have Their Way...

So it looks like we are Stuck With Them.

sls

Indeed we are, Girl. And why would the rest of the world want them, anyway? They have their own, you know.

Etaoin
08-22-2004, 06:54 PM
Several things coalesced within the same time frame to give unbelievable power to the left.

1. Before WW11, this was a conservative nation. Even during the depression there was compassion for our fellow man. Crime was minimal and those who had no jobs would "WORK" for a meal or find anything where they could do something for sustenance for themselves and their families. It was a brutal time, but there was no concept of "entitlement."

2. August, 1935...The first major victory for Socialism...Social Security was legislated into existence. Once people learned that they could vote themselves $$$ from the treasury, they didn't care where it came from or associate any morality to the redistribution of worker's incomes.

3. During the war, most of the men were drafted and the women took their places.... especially in the field of Education.

4. Hollywood was basically leftist since WW1. Subsequent to WW1, they were overwhelmingly in support of Stalin. The N.Y. Times and Duranty were overwhelmingly supportive of Stalin.

5. Academe had been co-opted. I remember the demonstrations in favor of the "Hollywood Eleven"(1947). I challenged a leftist professor for his untruthful presentation of a news item. Interesting, If you want to know @ it.

6. The media is (was) now owned or controlled by would be Oligarchs who felt they had the power to direct America into channels which would enhance their power.

6. Tail Gunner Joe McCarthy was right @ 95% of the time. Soviet records confirm this. He was set up with Eisenhower's cooperation..

7. The families of the WW!! vets became voting adults in the early 60's. WW11 Vets tried their damnedest to see that their children never had to go through what they had suffered. Therefore too many were "spoiled Brats" who were susceptable to the demagoguery of the leftist professors and media. Pravda had more influence than the conservative media. In the media, conservatives were routinely ridiculed or put on panels in which they were outnumbered by 3 or 4 to one.

8. The final straw was the creation of the department of Education which then was able to enforce idiocies such as political correctness on the children and present history as it never was with a steady and constant denigration fo the United States.

9. The deterioration of the educational process assured that the students would never learn to think critically or have the courage to challenge the blatant biases of the professors. Again, parents were too damned busy trying to pay for all of this to study and interrogate their children as to what they were being taught and its relation to reality.

10. We are left with the option of succumbing or else we must Monitor and challenge them at every attempt to co-opt our children.

Rink
08-22-2004, 07:15 PM
Bravo Etaoin!!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/claps.gif

On #5, yes I would like to know more about that, sounds very interesting.

and on #7. yes you are completely correct on this, as i am the youngest child of a WW2 vet, and Yes he did spoil us all rotten and did everything to make our lives easier, he bent over backwards for us kids, when he really shouldnt have.

You are so right on the mark on everything you have stated Etaoin. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon16.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thankyou.gif

Naturalized-Texan
08-22-2004, 07:31 PM
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/claps.gif

1. Before WW11, this was a conservative nation. Even during the depression there was compassion for our fellow man. Crime was minimal and those who had no jobs would "WORK" for a meal or find anything where they could do something for sustenance for themselves and their families. It was a brutal time, but there was no concept of "entitlement."

I can remember hobos coming to our back door asking for a handout. We were poor, but my mother would always manage to scrape up something to eat and a cup of coffee. We lived a couple of blocks from the railroad tracks and those hobos rode the rails across the country looking for work. I was told that they had "signs" that told other hobos where to go to get handouts.

When the Hoover Dam was being built, men from all over the country rode the rails to the dam site looking for work. Since I learned about that on one of our visits to Hoover Dam, I have often wondered if any of those hobos my mother helped were on their way to the Hoover Dam. When the dam was being built, I would have been too young to have seen those hobos, but I do remember seeing later ones.

S-T
08-24-2004, 05:58 PM
Liberty2000 said:
The "war" on terrorism will go wherever Haliburton says, and you know it meanwhile America is just as vunerable as it was in 2001.

No, this war has been going on for over two decades now. It is going on because Islamists are fighting a jihad against anything non-Muslim. Islamism is just as dangerous as Communism. The difference was that Islamists are willing to die to kill innocent people. Communists weren't so fanatical.

MSGT
10-17-2004, 04:15 PM
Best 9/11 video I've seen. It's long but see the whole thing. BTW how in the hell is NY going blue this election.


http://www.911digitalarchive.org/diganimbackup/americaattacked/index1.html

Jeffrho
10-17-2004, 05:07 PM
That brought tears to my eyes. The pictures of those people jumping from the towers does it every time.

bannerman
05-09-2006, 04:26 PM
never forget

Naturalized-Texan
09-08-2007, 06:27 PM
*Bump*

conservatour
09-08-2007, 10:42 PM
I read an online story in a London paper recently that had the pic of the first tower on flames and a plane heading for the second one. This anniversary of 9/11 is one the same day of the week. I wonder which, if any, mainstream publications will have any pictures of the attack. I'm sure that there will be photos of the aftermath, the cloud of dust, poeple looking terrified, confused. Got to cover that victim mentality as if we were the cause and not on the receiving end of an attack on our soil.

dPrasse
09-09-2007, 12:05 AM
http://www.september11news.com/CNNAPLibertySkyline.jpg

One of the most stirring pics ....

Naturalized-Texan
09-09-2007, 09:51 AM
I read an online story in a London paper recently that had the pic of the first tower on flames and a plane heading for the second one. This anniversary of 9/11 is one the same day of the week. I wonder which, if any, mainstream publications will have any pictures of the attack. I'm sure that there will be photos of the aftermath, the cloud of dust, poeple looking terrified, confused. Got to cover that victim mentality as if we were the cause and not on the receiving end of an attack on our soil.
I'm going to start a thread with a slew of photos from 9/11.

mateusrosé
09-13-2007, 01:23 PM
The mainstream media largely ignores the hard-hitting photos/film. The History Channel did have an hours-long, unedited repeat of the event as it occurred on the Today Show.

Taylor1
01-09-2008, 04:41 PM
Defineately agreed with mateurose. I need to do something I'm gonna pledge something I will leave this country better in SOME way where I touched someones life (involved in the war or something of that matter) and thats what I wanna do before I die!