Leftists urge DOS attack on GOP Web sites

[S-T]

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Date: Sun Aug 22, 2004 7:19 pm
Subject: Gear up for the republican convention protests by taking action from home!


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1) Write letters to the editor of your local newspapers supporting John Kerry and criticizing Bush and the republican party. This will help counter all the media coverage of the convention.



2) Help thousands of others disrupt the republican web sites during the convention by requesting downloads and page refreshes. The below web sites will be targeted each day, starting at noon, Eastern, from August 29 to September 2:



www.2004nycgop.org (http://www.2004nycgop.org)

www.rnc.org (http://www.rnc.org)

www.georgewbush.com (http://www.georgewbush.com)



Additional details and protest schedules are available at:



www.bushmustgo.org (http://www.bushmustgo.org)

BUSH MUST GO!

[Rink]

Um isnt that against federal law to do? promote and foment?

the FBI needs to be trackin these guys who are wanting this done, down.

[nosferatuscoffin]

ROFL!

As if they could even get away with doing things that Linksys and other companies have been doing since last March with their poor firmware upgrades.

I wish them luck. They screw with my sites, and they will be bitchslapped like they never have before.

[S-T]

Here are the groups it was posted to.

Huntington_and_Charleston_WV@yahoogroups.com

Kansas_for_Kerry@yahoogroups.com

ingreens@yahoogroups.com

InternetPoliticalParty@yahoogroups.com

generationdean@yahoogroups.com

johnkerryandfriends@yahoogroups.com

johnkerryforohio@yahoogroups.com

IndependentsForKerry@yahoogroups.com

Kentucky_for_Kerry@yahoogroups.com

Greensboro4Dean@yahoogroups.com

[Maggie_T]

And they ask me why I loath these despicable scumbags. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon122.gif

[nosferatuscoffin]

If you have to post with a public addy via Yahoo, you know they are script-kiddie wannabes. Lord, you would think the Kerry campaign would use at least a few Astalavista.com backdoors.

Oh well..I am sure that I myself and Secunia, among others will be sipping Root Beer and eating popcorn whilst this is going on.

[ThomasIsUnderrated]

Without going into details, I'll just say that this isn't the only report of its kind out there. (Using "its kind" in a broad sense, there are reports of things besides DOS attacks.) Rest assured that the FC Management Team is prepared to handle whatever may come this way.

[FatherTime]

The solution to DOS attacks is pretty simple...

Stop using Microsoft crap. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon129.gif

-FT /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/votebush.gif

[nosferatuscoffin]

[ QUOTE ]
ThomasIsUnderrated said:
Without going into details, I'll just say that this isn't the only report of its kind out there. (Using "its" in a broad sense, there are reports of things besides DOS attacks. Rest assured that the FC Management Team is prepared to handle whatever may come this way.

[/ QUOTE ]

Nods, my good friend. What is most amusing is that they think they can do such things via FC and via my own site.

I just laugh.

[RayChuang]

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FatherTime said:
The solution to DOS attacks is pretty simple...

Stop using Microsoft crap. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon129.gif

-FT /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/votebush.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Alas, a denial of service attack does not need to attack Microsoft-based systems. All you need to do is take down routers, which are essentially computers that are used primarily to direct TCP/IP data. The recent attack on Akamai servers was essentially an attack on the routers that the servers were attached to.

Mind you, I'm sure the FBI's cyberterrorism task force is well-aware of this. The FBI might just even quietly spring a trap on the people trying to attempt this. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon1.gif

[DoctorDoom]

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Stop using Microsoft crap.

[/ QUOTE ]
A DoS attack is not platform-specific. It's a deliberate attempt to tie up a site's servers with constant calls for action.

Envision sitting at home answering the phone, finding no one there, hanging it up, and having it immediately ring again, incessantly. That denies you the legitimate use of your phone. A DoS attack is similar. However, the servers don't have the option of ignoring the incoming calls, so they spend so much time dealing with the assholes that they don't have time for legitimate traffic.

It takes the IQ of a lobotomized chicken (or a DUh poster, whichever is lower) to do shit like that. One hopes they get their sorry punk asses busted and charged with as many violations as the feds can dream up.

[Triller]

If they had enough people to simply access a site at the same time it would be a legal DOS attack.

[Wolfcounsel]

"If they had enough people to simply access a site at the same time it would be a legal DOS attack." --Triller

Anybody who believes that will be in for a rude surprise.
http://freeconservatives.com/smilies/death2.gif HEH HEH HEH!

[Rink]

Ever heard of IP bans? given the amount of repeats from the liberal dorks i bet ya ten to one their IP's will get blocked given enough 'repeats'

[Triller]

Happens all the time with slashdot. You know all it would take is a reasonably interesting tech story on here...

[Tazeeyore]

DOS is hardly a valuable target anymore since most servers are no longer DOS systems. LEt the freaks have at it so they can be tracked. Yahoo needs to be fined substantially for leting this kind of anarchy spawn on their site.

[Warlady]

I thought the left were supposed to be tolerant peace loving first amendment champions? Guess not.

[CAinSanFrancisco]

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Tazeeyore said:
DOS is hardly a valuable target anymore since most servers are no longer DOS systems. LEt the freaks have at it so they can be tracked. Yahoo needs to be fined substantially for leting this kind of anarchy spawn on their site.

[/ QUOTE ]

DOS in this case is a type of attack; it's an acronym for "Denial of Service" attack.

[Aethariel]

I wouldn't worry about anyone targetting FC in any sort of attack, heh. Not to bust anyone's bubble, but this site hardly gets enough visitors or attention to warrant the kind of effort that would go into bugging enough computers for a DOS. Moreover, it would be silly-- if you're going to DOS a site, you do it to one that holds time-critical information of organizational or economic important. You wouldn't DOS a message board, where the greatest hassle caused is a delay in making posts.

~Aethariel

[Rink]

Aethariel its obvious you havent seen the amount of 'guests' that this forum has had as I have.

[Aethariel]

Heh, Rink, the most this forum has ever had online at once, including guests, is 54 people. I'm not trying to badmouth the forum-- it's just that a setup this small isn't going to get any sort of attention from hackers or their ilk. However big the hearts and intense the devotion of the regulars here, a forum this small isn't even going to register as a potential target.

I don't know how experienced you are with internet message boards-- but this is a very, very small board, and it isn't going to attract any hacker's attention. (Unless it's some sort of disgruntled, banned troll who happens to be the '1337 haxx0r'. XD)

~Aethariel

[Warlady]

We like it that way.

[Rink]

I've actually seen more than 54 in ther visitors section LOL

[nene]

Liberals have no idea what the First Amendment actually protects.

[DoctorDoom]

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Heh, Rink, the most this forum has ever had online at once, including guests, is 54 people.

[/ QUOTE ]
The elite are here, as opposed to certain other boards that shall remain unidentified, where quantity is a result of the flies-swarming-on-turd effect. Our emphasis is on quality, not numbers.

And, being fair and tolerant, we allow peasants to post here in the hope that exposure to superior people will prove enlightening and uplifting. If that fails, they still provide a modicum of simple amusement in the manner of the antics of village idiots.

[Triller]

[ QUOTE ]
Heh, Rink, the most this forum has ever had online at once, including guests, is 54 people

[/ QUOTE ]

It's all dependant on your adequacy.

[dajoga]

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Warlady said:
I thought the left were supposed to be tolerant peace loving first amendment champions? Guess not.

[/ QUOTE ]

Exactly, WL: funny I don't remember the 'rats complaining about the "vast right wing conspiracy" messin' wid their 'puter systems.
In fact I don't remember any media showing "right wingers" being arrested at the 'rat conv. I heard today that they've already arrested twice as many protestors at the GOP conv. and it hasn't even started yet. Apparently "right wingers" are more law-abiding than leftists. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon16.gif

[Warlady]

Apparently? LOL It goes without saying. You are correct. Republicans DID NOT disrupt the DNC. We are adults. Let them act like spoiled children reared in backwoods trailer communities with no education. Americans will be watching. It's reminiscent of the 2002 elections when the Democrats made total fools of themselves at the Wellstone funeral/pep rally. It will harm them. Not us.

[Aethariel]

"I've actually seen more than 54 in ther visitors section LOL"

No, you haven't, because the board automatically records all this kind of information. Check the main forum page, it lists such stuff there.

"Let them act like spoiled children reared in backwoods trailer communities with no education. Americans will be watching."

I agree entirely. Massive protests and/or hacker attacks on GOP websites will only do damage of the worst sort to Kerry-- turning off independents and moderates who don't go in for that kind of stuff. Moreover, it's a pathetic display of hypocrisy, if you whine about Bush damaging personal liberties then attempt to censor via DOS a political viewpoint you don't care for.

~Aethariel

[Rink]

LOL aethariel You havent been around as long as I have obviously LOL

[S-T]

[ QUOTE ]
Warlady said:
I thought the left were supposed to be tolerant peace loving first amendment champions?

[/ QUOTE ]

Only when it is their own free speech, Warlady. The "speech codes" on university campuses have shown the Left to be intolerant of opposing views for a long time.

But you're right to point out the hypocrisy. The Greenie who posted this should look at himself in the mirror before complaining about free speech.

[ThomasIsUnderrated]

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Aethariel said:
I wouldn't worry about anyone targetting FC in any sort of attack, heh. Not to bust anyone's bubble, but this site hardly gets enough visitors or attention to warrant the kind of effort that would go into bugging enough computers for a DOS. Moreover, it would be silly-- if you're going to DOS a site, you do it to one that holds time-critical information of organizational or economic important. You wouldn't DOS a message board, where the greatest hassle caused is a delay in making posts.

~Aethariel

[/ QUOTE ]


As I made clear in one of my replies, dos attacks aren't the only concern. And you have not been around here long enough to know that this site (and message board) has had its share of disruptions and problems with leftist cyber-punks. (Was this an intelligent use of the leftists' time and energy? Of course not. But does one really expect to see signs of intelligence from leftists? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif )

And yes, people do DOS message boards.

As for size, no, we aren't that big.* But it is interesting that many leftists (including yourself) seem to love to talk about this board on leftist boards/sites.

* It is incorrect, however, to say that we are very, very small.

[Triller]

Perhaps you guys should dress up as liberals and smash up some shops and shit in new york during the RNC. That way you guarantee Kerry will lose.

[Damn Dirty Conserv Ape]

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S-T said:
Here are the groups it was posted to.


[/ QUOTE ]

Thanks for the info, ST, although it appears to be one kook.

The Denial of Service attack, however, could ultimately be larger.

I've heard if people do it, it's not illegal. If he/it/they use a BOT or program to affect a DOS, he can expect a visit from the various alphabet agencies.

DDCA

[nosferatuscoffin]

[ QUOTE ]
ThomasIsUnderrated said:
And yes, people do DOS message boards.

As for size, no, we aren't that big.* But it is interesting that many leftists (including yourself) seem to love to talk about this board on leftist boards/sites.

* It is incorrect, however, to say that we are very, very small.

[/ QUOTE ]

FC has a pretty good sized membership compared to other comparable boards, whether Dem or GOP. Maybe not in the Freeper realm, but still pretty impressive. What is more impressive is it's influence and mentions that it receives from other boards. That, of course, drives lefties like Aethariel up the wall and forces them to pay homage to Gorto everynight.

As for DOS attacks, that has been the wank-spanking script kiddies flavor of the month lately. Whether for trying to DOS boards like this or sites they just do not like. That too, shall pass.

Routers have had more problems with real DOS attacks lately as well. Those, of course are produced by real pros and not lefty Romper Room coders.

Time will tell with all of this anyway.

[TheRealLobo]

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Triller said:
Perhaps you guys should dress up as liberals and smash up some shops and shit in new york during the RNC. That way you guarantee Kerry will lose.

[/ QUOTE ]

You mean like hooligans at soccer matches? Is that purely a British tradition or are the hooligans all over Europe?

[Snookums]

Yep! I think it's 'just right'!

[S-T]

Gary Post-Tribune
Aug. 31, 2004

A message urging protesters to help slow down Republican Web sites -
including President Bush's official campaign site - has been posted on
Yahoo Web sites run by the Indiana Green Party and some independent
sites
that support Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry.
The message urged protesters to take the action during the GOP
convention in New York.
The messages were posted on Yahoo Groups Web pages run by the
Indiana Green party, Independents for Kerry and Kentucky for Kerry.
None of the groups are officially associated with Kerry or his
campaign, but do seek to get political messages out to influence the
2004
election in his favor.
But the person who sent the Yahoo message groups the e-mail took
responsibility for its automatic postings, and remained unapologetic in
an e-mail to the Post-Tribune.
"The goal is to be a thorn in the (expletive) of the Republicans,"
said the anonymous poster, who goes by the user name "Kerrymustwin."
He did not identify himself.
"The posting was not affiliated with the the Greens, or anyone
else," he said. "Naturally, everyone was not expected to approve."
The message reads: "Help thousands of others disrupt the Republican
Web sites during the convention by requesting downloads and page
refreshes."
Jim Witkins, founder of Independents for Kerry, its Web site and a
moderator for the Yahoo group, said he did not agree with the message.
"It's just some crazy guy," said Witkins. "I'm certainly happy to
take (the message) down."
An agent at the Indianapolis office of the FBI said the anonymous
poster was playing with the law - but so far had not crossed the line.
The reason is the FBI cannot prosecute people for trying to overload
Web pages with human traffic.
"If he created a program to do this ... then that would be a denial
of service," said Dan Nielsen, supervisory special agent at the FBI's
cybercrime squad.
Nielsen said the use of programmed Web "bots" are illegal when used
to burden and possibly crash a Web site.
The poster did not respond to a question regarding possible use of
programmed bots.The sites mentioned for targeting were:
GeorgeWBush.com, the official site of
President Bush's campaign; rnc.org, the Republican National Committee's
Web
site; 2004NYCGOP.org, the official Web site of the GOP national
convention.
Representatives of the RNC did not return phone calls.

[Damn Dirty Conserv Ape]

Cool. Hope the "Kerrymustwin" guy grants an interview -- with the FBI!

Ever notice the lefties lead the way when it comes to web trolls?

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