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Warlady
09-16-2004, 09:20 PM
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040916/capt.wvrs10309162250.edwards_wvrs103.jpg

Three-year-old Sophia Parlock cries while seated on the shoulders of her father, Phil Parlock, after having their Bush-Cheney sign torn up by Kerry-Edwards supporters on Thursday, Sept. 16, 2004, at the Tri-State Airport in Huntington, W.Va. Democratic vice presidential candidate John Edwards (news - web sites) made a brief stop at the airport

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CatKozTX
09-16-2004, 09:24 PM
Another fine example of the warm-hearted, all-accepting, fair-minded people that make up the Democratic party of today, eh? Jerks. :sad:

Rink
09-16-2004, 09:28 PM
And those dorks have the gall to call Republicans 'Mean Spirited'???

HomeschoolrsRUs
09-16-2004, 09:34 PM
Ahhh, don'tcha just love tolerance, diversity, and inclusion?! Wonder if Dan Blather is covering THIS story?


It simply amazes me ... the left are the most intolerant, anti-diversity, exclusionary groups out there. Where are the pro-life Democrats? Where are the pro-military Democrats? Shoot, if it weren't for Zell Miller, we wouldn't believe there ever has been one.

DoctorDoom
09-16-2004, 09:40 PM
I wonder which of those scraggly, unwashed, lice-infested, knuckle-dragging, sputum-drooling pieces of maggot-riddled dog shit that find it amusing actually did it. It's things like this that make we want one day a month when it's legal to shoot libleft assholes.

Suzie
09-16-2004, 09:52 PM
Great, WV again. :( We never get good press. It's always something horrid.

CaliGirl
09-16-2004, 10:14 PM
The skerry supporters were wrong to do this. However.....

quote from article:

Democratic vice presidential candidate John Edwards made a brief stop at the airport
The father must have known that Edwards was going to be at the airport! Otherwise why would he have a sign of Bush/Cheney? I think the father was STUPID to take his young daughter to something like this. Some of DemRATS supporters can become so angry, that a small child like this could have gotten hurt. Did I read to much into this story?:question:

DoctorDoom
09-16-2004, 10:27 PM
In view of the fact that the mindless cretins are out in force wherever the president appears, and no one interferes with them, it's a stark contrast. It's just more proof that Kerry's supporters are typical leftist idiots to whom freedom of speech means that they have the right to spout their treasonous, hateful rhetoric against our president, but a Bush supporter is to be silenced.

When a father has to be concerned for the safety of his little girl because he chooses to express an opposing political position, there is something horribly wrong in America.

**** the lot of them. Line them up and use them for machine-gun practice.

CaliGirl
09-16-2004, 10:36 PM
In view of the fact that the mindless cretins are out in force wherever the president appears, and no one interferes with them, it's a stark contrast. It's just more proof that Kerry's supporters are typical leftist idiots to whom freedom of speech means that they have the right to spout their treasonous, hateful rhetoric against our president, but a Bush supporter is to be silenced.

When a father has to be concerned for the safety of his little girl because he chooses to express an opposing political position, there is something horribly wrong in America.

**** the lot of them. Line them up and use them for machine-gun practice.Hasn't this been the norm for the last few elections? I personally would never have taken a child to a DemRAT function like this. I know what you mean, but the DemRATS are evil and will due hard to anyone who shows they are for the other guy. Yes, there is something WRONG with America, it's called Democrats.

The_Elucidator
09-17-2004, 04:25 AM
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040916/capt.wvrs10309162250.edwards_wvrs103.jpg


Look at the dumbass in the background holding his sign upside down! It takes a real tough guy to tear a sign away from a 3 year old. Notice the shirt,, I'm betting on a GED education,,, at best!

UnkHiram
09-17-2004, 05:32 AM
I have no problem with someone going to a Kerry or Edwards Rally with a Bush/Cheney sign or vice versa. I have real problem with someone taking their 3 year old to a rally in the above scenario. The Father was stupid to expose his daughter to the potential danger in this situation. The moron that took the sign from the girl and tore it up was stupid, the father was worse.

Samcat
09-17-2004, 05:57 AM
I have no problem with someone going to a Kerry or Edwards Rally with a Bush/Cheney sign or vice versa. I have real problem with someone taking their 3 year old to a rally in the above scenario. The Father was stupid to expose his daughter to the potential danger in this situation. The moron that took the sign from the girl and tore it up was stupid, the father was worse.
No doubt that the father showed a lack of judgement to bring his daughter to the rally, but for a person to take the sign away from a child and tear it up just shows you how mean-spirited and hateful some Demoncrats are.

Of course, they are intolerant as they are only interested in their own selfish opinion, and will drown them out.

I bet the guy(who took the sign from the child) is related to Al Franken, another Demoncrat thug.

Jeffrho
09-17-2004, 06:11 AM
Typical of 'RAT's and especially sKerry supporters. How much courage does it take to rip a sign from a little girl's hands and tear it up? It's the same amount of courage their pathetic "war hero" displayed during his 4 months in 'Nam. A hint for you liberals - the answer is ZERO.

:votebush:

Samcat
09-17-2004, 06:16 AM
Hear Hear, Jeffrho!!

ReneeM
09-17-2004, 06:21 AM
I try to keep a clean mouth but i will not on this post and having a 3 yr old makes me wanna kick some dem in his groin! What an asshole! Maybe the dad shouldn't have taken her there but some dumbass jerkoff should have had the daylights knocked out of him! Shame on him!:shame:

DoctorDoom
09-17-2004, 06:45 AM
When a father can't bring his daughter to an airport to express an opinion for fear of her being injured, there is something gravely ****ing wrong in the land of the free. Are we to live in fear of what those Kerrorist brownshirts MIGHT do? Do those sons of bitches now dictate what we can say and do and where we can go?

"We support John Kerry, and if you disagree with us, you're ****ed." Let's all just throw up our hands, suck the dicks of those scumbags, and say, "We're askeered now. You win. Please don't hurt us."

There are a lot of places where I'd never bring my kids, but most airports are public, tax-supported property. Are the Kerrorists in control of them?

The subhuman barbarians are a clear and present danger to liberty in this country. The vermin should be exterminated. :flame:

Rink
09-17-2004, 06:51 AM
By all means Doc, please tell us how you REALLY feel! :D

tacitus
09-17-2004, 07:06 AM
Why is anyone shocked or suprised that this happened? That was a Kerry supporter, need I say more?

DoctorDoom
09-17-2004, 07:12 AM
It's neither shocking nor surprising, but it is damned well infuriating that a guy can't bring his little girl to a public place for a peaceful expression of political opinion without fearing for her safety.

HomeschoolrsRUs
09-17-2004, 07:26 AM
I tend to agree with Doc somewhat. I came from a VERY political family. My parents included me in everything from a very early age. I went to political get-togethers, Chamber of Commerce meetings, etc.


I don't think, now, I would take my children to a politically rally, so-to-speak, of the opposite political party from mine, however, if I heard the candidate was coming to town and would be coming through our airport I just very well might take my kiddos with me and hold up a sign in support of my candidate. What I am uncertain about, is if this fellow was also vocal (and at what volume) about his support for Bush/Cheney. That would then tend to put his little one at more risk. However, those idiot Kerry supporters are responsible for THEIR actions, and if they did this to his child, then all bets are off because of THEIR actions no matter what the Father did to contribute (like being there with his 3-year old daughter to show opposition support for his candidate.)

Anyone who is unable to keep themselves in-check where a child is concerned, and at this point there is no reason to believe the father did anything untoward other than show up there, deserves to have the snot beat out of him for so much as addressing my child out of hand.
Just my two cents.

DoctorDoom
09-17-2004, 07:48 AM
Compare the dad to the union slug next to him with the reversed cap and the vacant expression that is characteristic of the intellectually destitute.

A scan of the group leaves one with the impression that it's a field trip from the W.Va. Institute For The Incurably Vacuous.

Edited to eliminate comments.

Politicalmom
09-17-2004, 07:52 AM
Actually, I believe that is a painters' union. I could be wrong, though.

Politicalmom
09-17-2004, 07:52 AM
And the blonde boy with the clenched fist is the little girl's brother.

Large_Al
09-17-2004, 07:56 AM
The skerry supporters were wrong to do this. However.....

quote from article:


The father must have known that Edwards was going to be at the airport! Otherwise why would he have a sign of Bush/Cheney? I think the father was STUPID to take his young daughter to something like this. Some of DemRATS supporters can become so angry, that a small child like this could have gotten hurt. Did I read to much into this story?:question:No you didn't

I’m an Eagles fan (that’s Football)…Real football, not that gay kick the ball around for 60min. and end in a 0-0 tie crap…… Ooops! I digressed. I’m a football fan and I tell anyone who is coming to see a game in Philly not to ware the opposing team’s jersey unless they want to get emergency dental work done. Anytime you are in a situation that
has passion attached to it unpredictable violence can occur.

It’s not right but it is a fact of life!!



If this father thought that just because his daughter is 3 they aren’t going to touch him or her he better start thinking right. He put his daughter in harms way and he’s lucky it didn’t get even worse.

These are people who think killing partially born children is a right not a crime.

You know they think all republicans should be silenced.

Faithful_Servant
09-17-2004, 08:10 AM
When a father can't bring his daughter to an airport to express an opinion for fear of her being injured, there is something gravely ****ing wrong in the land of the free. Are we to live in fear of what those Kerrorist brownshirts MIGHT do? Do those sons of bitches now dictate what we can say and do and where we can go?

"We support John Kerry, and if you disagree with us, you're ****ed." Let's all just throw up our hands, suck the dicks of those scumbags, and say, "We're askeered now. You win. Please don't hurt us."

There are a lot of places where I'd never bring my kids, but most airports are public, tax-supported property. Are the Kerrorists in control of them?

The subhuman barbarians are a clear and present danger to liberty in this country. The vermin should be exterminated. :flame::yeahthat:
Doc, you need to get a job as a speechwriter for Zell Miller. :thumb:

DoctorDoom
09-17-2004, 08:15 AM
And the blonde boy with the clenched fist is the little girl's brother.If that's the fact (there's no mention of it in the short Yahoo article}, then I recant my analysis of him. Do you have a link to a page that verifies this?

The painter's union is IUPAT, International Union of Painters and Allied Trades. That might be a T at the end of the logo, but it's hard to tell with the button, patch, or whatever the hell that is at the top. However, I'll give him the benefit of my doubt and amend the comment in the previous post, not wishing to besmirch the police.

Politicalmom
09-17-2004, 08:37 AM
The father was on Glenn Beck this morning, and confirmed that the boy is his 11 (?) year old son.

He looks a lot like the little girl, so I figured who he was from the start.

DoctorDoom
09-17-2004, 08:51 AM
Okay, that's good enough for me, gentle lady. The comment is hereby rescinded.

uncommon1
09-17-2004, 10:07 AM
The democRats will make it look like the man was there as an aggressor and they only had to do it to defend themselves from his insensitivity. they were confronted by insurmountable odds so they elected to conduct a pre-emptive strike to protect themselves from this man and his children. They are the true victims in this story. On the other hand, my guess is that this man migh have grounds for some recourse in a court of law for intentional infliction of emotional distress (no, that's what the Rats will use) or at least a case of civil battery. That poor little girl will be scarred for life.

Wolfcounsel
09-17-2004, 10:22 AM
I would not take any small children to a dumb ass rally, that's for sure, but I would wear the opposing logo on my T-shirt, and the first cretin to approach me with a "please remove your shirt or I'll remove it for you" look would wind up trying to untangle his balls from around his throat.
http://freeconservatives.com/smilies/atomic.gif

Wanna play, little asshole?

Politicalmom
09-17-2004, 10:53 AM
Wolf, when the world falls apart and it is time to go survivalist, my family wants to come with you. :D

I can't believe how many people immediately do the knee-jerk "It's all the Dad's fault". How odd to blame the goon.

Apparently the family was there with one of their older children who was a National Guard assigned to the event. I think the father said that he had a third child joining the Guard tomorrow.

Jeffrho
09-17-2004, 11:19 AM
IUAPT apologizes for yesterday's incident:
The International Union of Painters and Allied Trades believes in the fundamental right for civil discourse, freedom of speech and activism to support our candidates and issues.

What happened in Huntington, West Virginia yesterday is an affront to everything we, as a union, pride ourselves to represent. We extend our apologies to the Parlock family, especially Sophia, for the distress one of our overzealous members caused them.MORE (http://www.ibpat.org/news/WVa.html)

Wolfcounsel
09-17-2004, 11:45 AM
"Wolf, when the world falls apart and it is time to go survivalist, my family wants to come with you. :D" --Politicalmom


Aw gosh, thanks!:laugh:

DeclinetoState
09-17-2004, 11:57 AM
The picture will be in my signature for a while.

NowhereMan
09-17-2004, 12:16 PM
This is actually the third consectutive Presidential election where this guy has been featured in news stories as having been abused while supporting Republican candidates at Democrat gatherings. Link (http://rising-hegemon.blogspot.com/2004/09/bogus-assault-father-freeper-of-year.html) here. I think the blogger's gone kind of conspiracy mad blaming the father for setting it up, especially since IUPAT have apologised for it but quite frankly he seems like he enjoys causing trouble.

If you've experienced problems doing this kind of thing twice before why the **** would you bring your kids with you? I'm not saying it should happen but much like with the football supporter example above its still stupid. The guy was trying to annoy people and he took his kids along, I don't blame him for the incident but I blame him for putting his kids into that situation.

DeclinetoState
09-17-2004, 04:23 PM
The allegation made on the page linked by NowhereMan is that the guy who ripped the sign out of the little girl's hands is her brother.

UnkHiram
09-17-2004, 05:17 PM
When a father can't bring his daughter to an airport to express an opinion for fear of her being injured, there is something gravely ****ing wrong in the land of the free. Are we to live in fear of what those Kerrorist brownshirts MIGHT do? Do those sons of bitches now dictate what we can say and do and where we can go?

"We support John Kerry, and if you disagree with us, you're ****ed." Let's all just throw up our hands, suck the dicks of those scumbags, and say, "We're askeered now. You win. Please don't hurt us."

There are a lot of places where I'd never bring my kids, but most airports are public, tax-supported property. Are the Kerrorists in control of them?

The subhuman barbarians are a clear and present danger to liberty in this country. The vermin should be exterminated. :flame:
Doc

We both know this type of behaviour is TYPICAL of Democrats. For this Father to take his 3 year old daughter to that event was at best irresponsible. I dont suggest we give in to these idiots, I dont suggest we throw up our hands BUT I would not take a 3 year old into this type of insanity.

Any Father should put the safety of his children first, and considering their history only a fool would think that the Kerry Supporters would not act like idiots.

DoctorDoom
09-17-2004, 05:18 PM
The allegation made on the page linked by NowhereMan is that the guy who ripped the sign out of the little girl's hands is her brother.Since the blogger is a self-admitted liberal, ergo a sKerry fanatic, he's desperate to make Horseface look good. Obviously it would take little effort to make a positive ID on the goon.

I can hear the black helicopters circling the joker's home as the CIA sets up its psychotronic mind-control ray projector. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v349/DocDoom777/afdbsmiley.gif

UnkHiram
09-17-2004, 05:19 PM
I am sorry, but I find it to damn bad you can not take your kids to a rally. I mean I see kids at conservative get togethers all the time and I have seen demorats bring their kids and no one does anything like this to their little brats, they should be a little more grown up and leave the kid out of it. Anyone that would do that to a kid for any reason should be knocked out.
Kitten I see kids at Conservative rallys too. Their is a difference between what we should be able to do and what is sensible to do. A child should be able to walk to school in safety, we both know they cant.

UnkHiram
09-17-2004, 05:21 PM
Wolf, when the world falls apart and it is time to go survivalist, my family wants to come with you. :D

I can't believe how many people immediately do the knee-jerk "It's all the Dad's fault". How odd to blame the goon.

Apparently the family was there with one of their older children who was a National Guard assigned to the event. I think the father said that he had a third child joining the Guard tomorrow.
Political Mom,

I am not saying its all the Dad's fault. The Goon acted like a total ass, But the Dad should have known better.

DoctorDoom
09-17-2004, 05:31 PM
We both know this type of behaviour is TYPICAL of Democrats.Yes, we both know that. My point is why we are letting those ****ing barbarians control our lives. Is mob rule to be the new way?

"Oh, shit, I can't bring my kids there, because RAT goons might endanger them." They win. Let's find a nice dark corner, curl up in the fetal position, suck our thumbs, and whine pitifully about the scum of the Earth dominating the public arena.

UnkHiram
09-17-2004, 05:38 PM
Yes, we both know that. My point is why we are letting those ****ing barbarians control our lives. Is mob rule to be the new way?

"Oh, shit, I can't bring my kids there, because RAT goons might endanger them." They win. Let's find a nice dark corner, curl up in the fetal position, suck our thumbs, and whine pitifully about the scum of the Earth dominating the public arena.
DOC

You dont endanger your children. Beat these idiots at the ballot box, protest them every chance you get. BUT You DONT INTENTIONAL put your kids in harms way. Would you take your kids to a crack house just to prove you are not "Curling up in a fetal position"? Hell NO you wouldnt.

I dont think I have ever "whined pitifully about the scum of the Earth dominating the public arena". I have always stood up for what I believe in, and you know that.

DoctorDoom
09-17-2004, 05:42 PM
BTW, this distressing state of decay extends far beyond this one event. Look at the vermin outside the RNC convention. Was there an equivalent outrage at the Boston blowout? Hell, no.

Look at hundreds of thousands of assholes tying up cities for hours with their "peace" (read: anti-Bush) protests. Is there any effort to control them? Hell, no.

Look at the faggots strutting their obscenities down Main Street. Does anyone attempt to restrict their deliberate defiance of every standard of public decency? Hell, no.

The leftists run this country by the tactic of creating fear of the consequences of challenging or limiting their psychotically antisocial behavior. Who's in charge? They are.

UnkHiram
09-17-2004, 05:48 PM
BTW, this distressing state of decay extends far beyond this one event. Look at the vermin outside the RNC convention. Was there an equivalent outrage at the Boston blowout? Hell, no.

Look at hundreds of thousands of assholes tying up cities for hours with their "peace" (read: anti-Bush) protests. Is there any effort to control them? Hell, no.

Look at the faggots strutting their obscenities down Main Street. Does anyone attempt to restrict their deliberate defiance of every standard of public decency? Hell, no.

The leftists run this country by the tactic of creating fear of the consequences of challenging or limiting their psychotically antisocial behavior. Who's in charge? They are.
DOC

No one, particularly not me, is suggesting that we dont confront these idiots. BUT you dont take your small children with you when you go confront them.

Warlady
09-17-2004, 05:53 PM
I wonder which of those scraggly, unwashed, lice-infested, knuckle-dragging, sputum-drooling pieces of maggot-riddled dog shit that find it amusing actually did it. It's things like this that make we want one day a month when it's legal to shoot libleft assholes.
I nominate this post for Post of the Day!! Doc I have a tee shirt that says "Some People Are Alive Simply Because It's Illegal to Kill Them". Everytime I wear it I get stopped by at least a dozen people.

DoctorDoom
09-17-2004, 06:00 PM
You dont endanger your children. Beat these idiots at the ballot box, protest them every chance you get. BUT You DONT INTENTIONAL put your kids in harms way. Would you take your kids to a crack house just to prove you are not "Curling up in a fetal position"? Hell NO you wouldnt.The comparison is, to be very kind, absurd. This is a public place, an airport, not a ****ing crack house.

I most certainly wouldn't bring my kids to a crack house, a whore house, a gang headquarters, or any other place with a concentration of subhuman garbage. However, if I as a taxpayer were supporting an airport, I most assuredly would not hesitate to bring my children there, with the expectation that they would not be accosted by thugs. To assume that doing so would put them "in harms way" is paranoid, and surrenders to the bastards.

Those sons of bitches are NOT my masters!

The fact that this defeatist mindset is so prevalent is evidence that our country is heading for the anarchy that usually precedes a dictatorship.

Warlady
09-17-2004, 06:11 PM
This is actually the third consectutive Presidential election where this guy has been featured in news stories as having been abused while supporting Republican candidates at Democrat gatherings. Link (http://rising-hegemon.blogspot.com/2004/09/bogus-assault-father-freeper-of-year.html) here. I think the blogger's gone kind of conspiracy mad blaming the father for setting it up, especially since IUPAT have apologised for it but quite frankly he seems like he enjoys causing trouble.

If you've experienced problems doing this kind of thing twice before why the **** would you bring your kids with you? I'm not saying it should happen but much like with the football supporter example above its still stupid. The guy was trying to annoy people and he took his kids along, I don't blame him for the incident but I blame him for putting his kids into that situation.
I don't understand your point. So he's an activist. A political activist. Isn't that a good thing? Don't we ask Americans to get involved in the process? There is no evidence that he is anything other than a peaceful political activist. If you can show me evidence otherwise then I might change my mind. This is abhorrant behavior by the sKerry supporters. There is no mention that the father did anything to deserve the treatment he and his family received. I don't care if he has attended political rallies in every political election. You should be able to do so without having your sign ripped from you. We have freedom of speech in this country and just because you go to your opponents rally doesn't mean you're looking for trouble. He was expressing his point of view. Do you think sKerry voters don't go to Bush rallies? Do you think they are all looking for trouble? Do they deserve to have their signs ripped from them and their children? Should they be forced to leave their kids at home for fear of injury? That is just nonsense. The Father should file charges. This is not the first time Democrats have committed violence against Republicans. We also did not disrupt the Democrat convention. The same cannot be said for them. How many Democrats/liberals were arrested during ours? I know it was well over a thousand. Republicans just don't act like that as a rule. Are there exceptions? Sure but the ratio is astounding. You don't see Republican terrorists either like you do on the left. They make me sick. They only care about free speech when it's theirs. They do all they can to suppress opposing viewpoints. Just look at Kerry trying to stop a book from being published and ads from being aired about his military service. The Swiftboat Vets for truth have as much a right to free speech as sKerry does. He should release his military records IN FULL and stop attacking the messengers or trying to shut them up. Whining to get Bush to fight his battles for him is unseemly.

Final note. I don't consider taking a kid to a public airport where there is security a dangerous place even if your political opponents are going to be there. If they are going to be violent then they should be the ones to have to stay home or go to jail.

speed_addiction
09-17-2004, 07:39 PM
If that dufus son of a bitch had torn anything from kid's hands he would have been introduced to my patented spinning back kick to the gut. His liver would have been wrapped around his spine.

UnkHiram
09-17-2004, 07:49 PM
Doc

Only a Total Idiot would take his small ch ildren to a Democrat rally and give them GOP poster. Thats not Paranoid, thats not giving up THATS ****ING REALITY!!! If you cant grasp that these assholes will do something then you are out of touch with reality.

Warlady
09-17-2004, 07:54 PM
Unk I think you're missing Doc's point. The violence they are heaping on those with opposing viewpoints is unacceptable. We should not cave by staying away. This is a great start. This picture needs to be flashed on every tv channel and internet website and radio talk show etc etc etc. They are in the wrong. What's next? They are going to run into our vehicles if we have a Bush/Cheney bumper sticker? When do we draw the line? I doubt that Father thought they would snatch his daughters sign. I certainly wouldn't have forseen that. He needs to file charges. The guy that did it still has the evidence in his hand.

UnkHiram
09-17-2004, 07:57 PM
Warlady

I understand it is not acceptable. I have said that. Doc is refusing to acknowledge the reality that these idiots will do something.

Yes they should be arrested and prosecuted and put in jail for a long long time. BUT this behaviour is to be expected at one of their rallys.

Warlady
09-17-2004, 08:02 PM
I'm sure that Father knows that now and won't take his little girl back and is probably in deep doo doo with the Mother. But I just can't bring myself to be mad at the Father. I don't think he did anything wrong. His daughter should not have been in danger at a public airport in America where civilized people are supposed to be acting like adults. The point is well taken that liberals are heathens. I will be very disappointed if the Father doesn't get that guy put behind bars. I would sue that kid until he had nothing for the rest of his life. I would include Kerry/Edwards and the DNC in that lawsuit just to harrass them for inciting such behavior with their rhetoric.

UnkHiram
09-17-2004, 08:15 PM
Warlady

You are much more trusting than I am. I always expect these idiots to do something like this. After all, I watched the DNC Convention and the RNC Convention and the "Peace Marches". I realize that these people do not recognize the rules that apply to civilized behaviour.

DoctorDoom
09-17-2004, 08:25 PM
I understand it is not acceptable. I have said that. Doc is refusing to acknowledge the reality that these idiots will do something.Bullshit! I am not so farking naive as to think that the goons will be saints. E.g., no way in hell would I bring my kid into a union hall. I AM stating that this is a public place supported by taxpayers, and the First Amendment gives EVERYONE the right to express political opinions in the public forum without fear of harassment or violence.

What you are in effect saying is that those rights are null and void because some asshole in a union shirt MIGHT do something. If that's going to be your standard by which you plan your life, then that son of a bitch owns you.

He does NOT own ME!

UnkHiram
09-17-2004, 08:27 PM
Bullshit! I am not so farking naive as to think that the goons will be saints. E.g., there is no way in hell would I bring my kid into a union hall. I AM stating that this is a public place supported by taxpayers, and the First Amendment gives EVERYONE the right to express political opinions in the public forum without fear of harassment or violence.

What you are in effect saying is that those rights are null and void because some asshole in a union shirt MIGHT do something. If that's going to be your standard by which you plan your life, then that son of a bitch owns you.

He does NOT own ME!
That is not what I am saying and you Damn well know it. I am saying you dont take small Children into that.

dajoga
09-17-2004, 08:33 PM
That poor little girl will be scarred for life.


I doubt that, but I bet she'll never vote Democrat!

Wolfcounsel
09-17-2004, 08:45 PM
At the next rally where there are chickenshit kerry supporters hanging around taking a crap on liberty, take your small children along with you to show your support for the good side. But take along plenty of volunteer stand-by people, to stand "in the background", ready to pound the shit out of any cowardly liberal sonofabitch who gets a brain fart to attack one of the little ones. I think his punishment should be to send him to Iraq with **** ALLAH! tattooed on his forehead. http://freeconservatives.com/smilies/death2.gif

Any Hanoi John supporter doesn't like that idea, tough shit!

DoctorDoom
09-17-2004, 09:00 PM
I am saying you dont take small Children into that.Into what? A brazen violation of First Amendment rights? What other public venues are you willing to surrender to the pricks?

"Sir, normally the Mall is open to everyone, but there are Democrats assembled here today, so you really shouldn't bring your children here."
"Oh, okay, thanks for the warning, officer. Say, did they ever do anything about the union thugs that beat up those three kids last week at the Kerry rally?"
"No. We didn't want to upset the union and provoke more violence, so the case was dismissed."
"Yeah, that's true. See you later."
"Bye, sir,"

UnkHiram
09-17-2004, 09:08 PM
Doc

You Dont Take Children into a situation that any person with the brains God gave a turnip can see is dangerous. AGAIN, I am not giving up any first amendment rights BUT I for one do not promote the endangering of children.

Politicalmom
09-17-2004, 09:30 PM
After seeing the picture of the tearful Sophia on her dad's shoulders, aides said the president was sending her a little note Friday along with a signed campaign poster and an autographed photo of the prez and his dog. "Dear Sophia," Bush penned, "Thank you for supporting my campaign. I understand someone tore up your sign. So I am sending you a new sign and a signed picture. Please give my best to your family. Sincerely, George W. Bush." And on the picture, he inked: "To Sophia, Best wishes from me and Barney." (From Washington Whispers)

DoctorDoom
09-17-2004, 09:57 PM
You Dont Take Children into a situation that any person with the brains God gave a turnip can see is dangerous. AGAIN, I am not giving up any first amendment rights BUT I for one do not promote the endangering of children.You are totally ignoring my point. Let me make it clearer.

This was in a farking
airport, a public facility.
There is no gawddamned
reason to expect that it
would be dangerous. If
one cannot expect to be
safe in an airport, where
the hell CAN one expect
to be safe?

I know you are not that dense. I have high respect for your intellect. However, if we must run our lives by what Kerrorist savages MIGHT do, then we should surrender now, grovel at their feet, and be done with it.

Wolfcounsel
09-18-2004, 12:10 AM
"This was in a farking airport, a public facility.There is no gawddamned reason to expect that it would be dangerous. If one cannot expect to be safe in an airport, where the hell CAN one expect to be safe?" --DoctorDoom

Cowards attack only the ones least able to defend themselves, just like terrorists do. If any adult takes a young charge to a public place inhabited by cowards such as Kerry supporters, he is opening himself up to having the young one grabbed by one of them, and he will use him as a shield. It is better to go to any public place, even the library, with your radar turned on, and to be prepared to place the young ones in a safe place before you commence to pummel the chickenshits senseless. Do not allow those communist assholes to go unchallenged if they shit on you, that's for sure.

UnkHiram
09-18-2004, 06:07 AM
You are totally ignoring my point. Let me make it clearer.



This was in a farking

airport, a public facility.
There is no gawddamned
reason to expect that it
would be dangerous. If
one cannot expect to be
safe in an airport, where
the hell CAN one expect
to be safe?




I know you are not that dense. I have high respect for your intellect. However, if we must run our lives by what Kerrorist savages MIGHT do, then we should surrender now, grovel at their feet, and be done with it.
Doc

You know as well as I do that these lunatic Democrats will react with violence to anyone that opposes their inane viewpoint. You know as well as I do that the have no respect for the rules of civilization. Witness Seattle a couple of years ago, Boston this year, New York this year, Their "Peace" marches. As a Result of these Facts there is every Reason to believe that these lunatics will react with violence to the presence of a Bush sign at a Kerry rally. I do not suggest running our lives on the basis of what they "MIGHT" do, I do however suggest that you not take small children into a situation that any reasonable person will recognize will get violent. By all means go yourself, wear your Bush shirt, carry your Bush Sign, But dont intentional endanger your child to make a political point.

Samcat
09-18-2004, 06:31 AM
Well, did the father know that there was going to be a Kerry/Edwards rally there, and why did they happen to have a Bush/Kerry sign? It is like putting red meat in front of a ravenous dog.

That being said, I do agree that people should not be accosted for their beliefs in a public place.

Rink
09-18-2004, 06:52 AM
There ARE some people who expect SOME measure of friggin Civility when goin to a rally in a public area.

Doc is right over that, there SHOULD be some civility, and that father should sue Kerry for not providing a 'safe and secure atmosphere' might just change their minds on having such ludicrous demagogues who are violent at Any hint of dissention anymore in the dems side of the aisle.

Hurt em in the damned pocketbooks!

Wolfcounsel
09-18-2004, 08:07 AM
I am not holding my breath until Hanoi John decides to speak out against his ass-kissing supporters. Whether or not one decides to take small children to a rabid asshole rally, and carry Bush supporting signs with him, the police had better pull their heads out of their asses, put the doughnuts down, and start ensuring the safety of all peaceful people in the area. Otherwise, it is crucial that superior civilian back-up be utilized.

DesertFox
09-18-2004, 08:23 AM
Anybody notice that the goons are all on the Left? "Our" protestor shows up with just a sign in his little girl's hands. Theirs show up shouting and throwing things. Generally, ours practice civility, theirs barbarity. This fact has of course escaped notice by the alphabet media.

DoctorDoom
09-18-2004, 08:31 AM
You know as well as I do that these lunatic Democrats will react with violence to anyone that opposes their inane viewpoint. You know as well as I do that the have no respect for the rules of civilization.Yes, I know those things, but if I let their barbarianism govern how I live and what I do, I have in effect licensed them to do it.

Witness Seattle a couple of years ago, Boston this year, New York this year, Their "Peace" marches.And my bitch is that exactly nothing is being done to dissuade them from acting like savages. They have free reign precisely because no one is standing up to them. The only response from those (supposedly) in charge is, "Well, if you think you'll be unsafe, stay away." That's an ANSWER? I should avoid going to public places because the "authorities" don't want to be bothered with making those public places safe? That is effectively granting them a right to be assholes.

It's not confined to an airport in W.Va. It's epidemic nationwide. The powers that be are standing back and letting the barbarians run the country, and their only contribution to civility is, "If you don't feel safe there, don't go there." I'm sorry, good sir, but that's not acceptable. There can be no compromise with them. Tolerating loutish behavior only exacerbates it.

As a Result of these Facts there is every Reason to believe that these lunatics will react with violence to the presence of a Bush sign at a Kerry rally.And why is there that expectation? A: because they are well aware that no one in authority is going to lift a pinky to prevent them from reacting with violence. Anarchy begins when the authorities surrender control to the lawless.

I do not suggest running our lives on the basis of what they "MIGHT" do, I do however suggest that you not take small children into a situation that any reasonable person will recognize will get violent.That's a self-contradicting sentence. If you hesitate to bring your children to a public facility on the rationale that people there "will get violent", then you are allowing your life to be controlled by the possibility of violence. If we give the thugs that kind of authority over us, where does it stop?

By all means go yourself, wear your Bush shirt, carry your Bush Sign, But dont intentional endanger your child to make a political point.The thought that I would endanger my child by bringing him/her to a taxpayer-financed facility, especially one that is supposed to be the very epitome of safety and security, infuriates me no end.

The only thing that will piss me off even more is that this sort of bullshit will be totally ignored by the John-John campaign and the RATs as a party, which is nothing less than tacit approval of it. The incidents are continuing, and AFAIK, not a syllable has come down from on high condemning it.

Samcat
09-18-2004, 09:39 AM
There ARE some people who expect SOME measure of friggin Civility when goin to a rally in a public area.

Doc is right over that, there SHOULD be some civility, and that father should sue Kerry for not providing a 'safe and secure atmosphere' might just change their minds on having such ludicrous demagogues who are violent at Any hint of dissention anymore in the dems side of the aisle.

Hurt em in the damned pocketbooks!
You have to remember Rink that Demoncrats have no civility.

Chris
09-19-2004, 09:59 PM
I’m a football fan and I tell anyone who is coming to see a game in Philly not to ware the opposing team’s jersey unless they want to get emergency dental work done.

http://www.discodelic.netfirms.com/signs-ha.gif If you wear anything other than green to an Eagles game you're in big trouble! http://www.discodelic.netfirms.com/sarcastic-pickedon.gif

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HomeschoolrsRUs
09-19-2004, 11:14 PM
Apparently the family was there with one of their older children who was a National Guard assigned to the event. I think the father said that he had a third child joining the Guard tomorrow.Okay, I don't know about anyone else, but this changes the perspective from my point of view. Being a parent and being there in support of his son, I can certainly understand bringing the whole family (3 year old daughter included) to see the son who was a National Guard assigned to the event. In this case, it also seems reasonable to me that if my child HAD to participate in this event, there would be no reason why I couldn't express my political view seeing as I was already going to be there in support of my son, who was doing his job not participating in a "Rally."

Also, considering this was just a stop-gap appearance, I would hardly consider it a full-blown Rally ... especially in light of the fact that it was at the AIRPORT, a public facility. They didn't sell tickets, did they? It wasn't a democrat fundraiser was it? They didn't have a meeting agenda, did they? They didn't post a schedule of events for the time they were there did they?

Sorry, I have to agree on the side of personal freedom. I have gone to several political functions with my parents as a child, as well as anti-functions. While I was never accosted, I'm sure if I had been, my father (who just happened to be an officer of the law in various capacities at various times in his life) would have quickly resolved the situation.

While I do agree that bringing a small child might be a bit risky, my advice would have been for the Dad to be a little more atuned to the people around him, their body language, their words, and most especially their attention to him and his daughter. But in every fiber of my being, I believe that the person who committed this act against the child is to blame, NOT the Father.