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Wyatt_Junker
09-18-2004, 10:17 AM
'Europe Will Be Islamic by the End of the Century'
by Robert Spencer
Posted Sep 16, 2004

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http://www.humaneventsonline.com/images/space.gifhttp://www.humaneventsonline.com/images/space.gifhttp://www.humaneventsonline.com/images/space.gifHow quickly is Europe being Islamized? So quickly that even historian Bernard Lewis, who has continued throughout his honor-laden career to be strangely disingenuous about certain realities of Islamic radicalism and terrorism, told the German newspaper Die Welt forthrightly that "Europe will be Islamic by the end of the century."

Or maybe sooner. Consider some indicators from Scandinavia this past week:


http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=5096

nosferatuscoffin
09-18-2004, 10:36 AM
Indeed, Scandanavia has been having their problems with their Camel-Humpers over the last few years. Taking over town and small cities, demanding that the Koran be required, increased crime (rape is basically legal in some parts there now as a lot of Scandanavia women have been attacked and little to nothing is done about it). The ragheads took a page from the Dems (or is it the other way around. Hard to say, since the modern Dem Party is simply the media and propoganda arm for terrorist Islam) and have used incrementalism to slowly, but surely take over Western Europe. In their case, they their very high birthrates to produce litter after litter of their wind-up toy homicidal-bomber soldiers. They also use the EuroWeenies PC codes against them, claiming "rights" and "oppression" and demanding such things as "Camel ****ing Day", mandatory scarf wearing and Terrorist Only Tots Daycare.

The only good thing that will come of this, is that when Western Europe is totally under the thumb of the Pedophile God and his followers, we will have the perfect opportunity and excuse to finally use our nuclear aresnal and just lay waste to the whole area.

Could not happen to a more deserving bunch.

Wyatt_Junker
09-18-2004, 10:59 AM
At least Poland is growing wise to 'em. The Czechs. The Slavs. The Eastern bloc buffer wing; nations that got steamrolled by Russian and German land rapers for the last 100 years, now are also the ones who are part of our coalition in Iraq. They know the smell of shit & don't have time for PC bullshit anachronisms.

Its the 'girl' nations of europe; the Norwegians, Scandanavians, Hollanders etc. the delicate aryans with their blue eyes and blonde opinions and their brand of socialism lite that are allowing their countries to go hybrid. People with forceless, yielding wills. All those cheese eating, Ralph Lauren models; ah, their tiny little knives, quick trains and ancient architecture, their ski resorts and oppressive tax structures. A perfect breeding ground for muslim incubation. If I wanted to implement Dar Al Islam, I would go where the people had uncalloused hands and lacked spine.

But not in Poland. Its the very opposite of chic. Broad shouldered gals with no teeth, that surprisingly, know how to give impeccable head one moment and then lop off the head of a chicken and throw it into a porridge pot the next. Survivors from midieval times. They know a con game when they see it. ****ing muslim pretenders are an easy read, an open book.

Its only the multiculty set that doesn't believe in evil that gets it right in the ass in the end. In their invertebrate kindness, they will be co-opted, taken over and conquered.

Rink
09-18-2004, 12:22 PM
Have ya noticed Muslim Arabs go straight to the blond-haired, blue-eyes girls and sucker em into marriage then drag em off to their forsaken lands?

UnkHiram
09-18-2004, 01:45 PM
I dont think Europe will become Islamic because this ongoing war against Terrorism being waged by the United States and now by the Russians will put a serious cramp in the growth rate.

DoctorDoom
09-19-2004, 04:53 AM
In their invertebrate kindness, they will be co-opted, taken over and conquered.I am Abdul of Muzz. You will be assimilated. Resistance is infidel. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v349/DocDoom777/borgsmile.gif

Triller
09-19-2004, 07:05 AM
yea and in 100 years time the world will be under water

*chuckles at these silly 'predictions'*

Rink
09-19-2004, 08:31 AM
Better take a look at the birth-rate per capita between Europeans and Muslim Arabs in European countries

Muslims are overwhelming Europe and doin their best to retake lost conquered lands.
Make no mistake, Muslims are doin their best to retake lost lands they feel still belongs under Islamic control.

dont 'chuckle' its a fact, they've made it quite plain they're out to install a Worldwide Caliphate and convert the world or kill those who wont convert.

Europe is just a key in their grand plans.

UnkHiram
09-19-2004, 08:44 AM
Rink

I dont doubt they have higher birth rates, BUT I suspect the war on Terrorism is going to give them alot higher DEATH rates. Particularly since the Russians are now going to war with them, and we know how considerate and compasionate they are.

Rink
09-19-2004, 08:59 AM
yea but I'm talkin the spineless Euro-weenie countries like France and Spain & such.

they are gonna be in for a poundin from the Mooslimes

Wyatt_Junker
09-19-2004, 05:56 PM
yea and in 100 years time the world will be under water

*chuckles at these silly 'predictions'*
All one has to do is recall So. California in the 1950's: white folks and orange groves.

Now, a mere generation later, those orange grows are gone and the entire state from Fresno due South and beyond are Latino epicenters for a quiet cultural shift. By 2025, we're all going to be eating flautas and driving lowriders. By 2050, a century later, we will all be pledging allegience to the Weed Eater and be wearing hearing aids from the Leafblower.

In another 10 years, hispanics alone will become the dominant political demographic. Whites, a minority. Its near neck and neck right now. You can already see it as polly tish ians are rehearsing their scripts. No one talks about border control except the ones who will never win an election. They know there is nothing they can do. Its too late. They've already won.

And that's no loco. Pretty silly, eh?

Triller
09-20-2004, 04:15 PM
After a few generations immigrant families tend to assimilate into the culture. But I dunno, we'll see about france and spain the future. I can't be bothered to argue this as I really don't know anything about it.

Faithful_Servant
09-20-2004, 05:18 PM
Better take a look at the birth-rate per capita between Europeans and Muslim Arabs in European countries

Muslims are overwhelming Europe and doin their best to retake lost conquered lands.
Make no mistake, Muslims are doin their best to retake lost lands they feel still belongs under Islamic control.

dont 'chuckle' its a fact, they've made it quite plain they're out to install a Worldwide Caliphate and convert the world or kill those who wont convert.

Europe is just a key in their grand plans.If there's one thing the muslims know, it's patience. They consider the last 4 or 5 centuries just a temporary set back in their goal of controlling Europe. Where Sulieman failed to conquer militarily, his great, great,......, great grand children are succeeding through conception and cultural osmosis. IMO, one of the biggest recent shifts in muslim policies has been a move away from this attitude. This is a big part of why they have grown more vicious, they are starting to lose patience.

Rink
09-20-2004, 05:44 PM
After a few generations immigrant families tend to assimilate into the culture. But I dunno, we'll see about france and spain the future. I can't be bothered to argue this as I really don't know anything about it.
I Highly doubt they'll assimilate into the culture. They, on the other hand will assimilate European culture and change it into an Islamic culture.

Faithful_Servant
09-20-2004, 06:07 PM
I can't be bothered to argue this as I really don't know anything about it.You need to put this at the end of all of your posts, triller.

tacitus
09-20-2004, 06:31 PM
After a few generations immigrant families tend to assimilate into the culture. But I dunno, we'll see about france and spain the future. I can't be bothered to argue this as I really don't know anything about it.
Thriller you might have figured that out sooner.

Triller
09-23-2004, 12:48 PM
You need to put this at the end of all of your posts, triller.
done

Triller
09-23-2004, 01:00 PM
Ok check this out for not making sense:

The vast majority of iraqis and afghanis are muslim. Yet most of you are keen to point out that the majority of them want democracy and not fanatical taliban/iran theocracy crap.
On the otherhand you are pointing at the muslims in britain and claiming they don't want democracy and do want a fanatical taliban/iran theocracy.

What is this huge difference between muslims in britain compared to the ones who stay in iraq and afghanistan? At least be consistant.

UnkHiram
09-23-2004, 08:30 PM
Ok check this out for not making sense:

The vast majority of iraqis and afghanis are muslim. Yet most of you are keen to point out that the majority of them want democracy and not fanatical taliban/iran theocracy crap.
On the otherhand you are pointing at the muslims in britain and claiming they don't want democracy and do want a fanatical taliban/iran theocracy.

What is this huge difference between muslims in britain compared to the ones who stay in iraq and afghanistan? At least be consistant.
Triller

The Main difference is that the Muslims in Britian DONT WANT DEMOCRACY, they are rejecting it in favor of an insane fanatical taliban theocracy. The Muslims in Iraq have had the misfortune of living under an bloodthirsty Buther who claims to be leading thru the grace of Allah. They already understand that it is BS.

Faithful_Servant
09-24-2004, 08:29 AM
Rink

I dont doubt they have higher birth rates, BUT I suspect the war on Terrorism is going to give them alot higher DEATH rates. Particularly since the Russians are now going to war with them, and we know how considerate and compasionate they are.
As much as I dislike and mistrust the Russians, they are the masters of the iron fist approach to diplomacy. You can expect to see some high level terrorists simply dropping off the face of the earth in the near future. The Russians have no qualms about using assasination as a means of accomplishing their desired ends.

nene
09-24-2004, 03:49 PM
Islam is self-defeating. There is too much corruption in the religion/culture to allow a society to flourish. As a result:

1. Their societies will always be predominantly poor.

2. Their government will always rule by force.

3. Women and children will always be made to cower by men that are artificially deemed greater than them.

4. Their enlighten populace will always abandon them.

5. Freedom of expression will forever be non-existent.

6. The factors of production will always be controlled by the government.

7. Most of the world's terrorists will always be Islamic.

The seeds to their destruction are sown.

Triller
09-24-2004, 09:07 PM
The Main difference is that the Muslims in Britian DONT WANT DEMOCRACY, they are rejecting it in favor of an insane fanatical taliban theocracy
Don't you see this is just your wacked out fanatasy? I live in this country and I have neither seen or read any evidence of this. On the contrary I have actually known some british muslim kids and they are no different than other kids. It is like that demented "jewish conspiracy" contrivance where people try to convince others that the jews are secretly taking over the world. They can all cite kook magasine articles to supposedly prove this too - so don't think you can just post a link from worldnetdaily and be done with it. Ultimately if you have enough people who want to demonise a group - be it jews, catholics, blacks or muslims you will get a lot of literature "proving" they are out to kill everyone.

The Muslims in Iraq have had the misfortune of living under an bloodthirsty Buther who claims to be leading thru the grace of Allah. They already understand that it is BS.Saddams Iraq was secular - far from a theocracy. He was a brutal dictator who used anything, including Islam, to his own ends. He was not a muslim leader just as hitler was not a christian leader. Just because both claimed they were leading through the grace of God doesn't mean their rule was theocratic.

There is no difference large enough to cause British muslims to want fundamentalist theocracy and Iraqi muslims to want democracy. Those are like two different extremes which would be opposed to each other - in which case why are democracy supporting muslims are not blowing the whistle on this huge muslim conspiracy?

Consider the thousands of iraqi asylum seekers that have come to britian over the years for example. They witnessed Saddams brutality perhaps more than many Iraqis (they fled afterall) and some have lived in britain for a decade. If a man like Saddam is makes muslims yearn for democracy, then why haven't these Iraqis blown the whistle on the british muslim taliban conspiracy which you claim exists?

Human_Error
09-29-2004, 02:28 PM
Well Triller, First of all...have you read the Koran? You say these muslims in the UK are different...well yes they are ....and you know why? Because they are in the west living in the comfort of freedom and basically most of them have lived a watered down ISLAM....now on the other hand,this last generation is embracing the "radical" Islam which is really the TRUE ISLAM! It's not only in the UK...but all over the west now. In the USA we have college student that are quite supportive of the hamas. But what you must understand is that Islam has a really deep seeded PLAN and although you wish to call it a conspiracy, one only has to look at the beheadings and the bombings to see that JIHAD IS ON! Not only are clerics preaching in the streets and mosque this concept now, but each video tape of a beheading is a recruitment call to it.

I find it hard if you are living in the UK to not hear about the honour killings or the rape or the clerics on the street preaching hate and destruction to the USA or the Iman's burning the Jack flag? What about the arrest of the muslims that are trying to buy chemicals or weapons for dirty bombs? Maybe you don't watch the BBC and see these things or even maybe you don't pay attention to the BNP in your own country? Don't you remember when the police stopped the documentary, “Edge of the City” just hours before it was slotted to air in May, after the chief constable of West Yorkshire warned that it could spark disorder and garner support for the British National Party in the upcoming election? Don't you remember the documentary was about White schoolgirls being groomed for sex by Muslim men in Bradford, England??

YOU say...Ultimately if you have enough people who want to demonise a group - be it jews, catholics, blacks or muslims you will get a lot of literature "proving" they are out to kill everyone.

Ultimately if you have the Koran, which demonises all NON MUSLIMS and in this LITERATURE, it states to make ALL bow down to Allah and convert or muslims are instructed to KILL THEM, is it not enough for you to understand what is going on today ??? Islam should be banned!!

As far as your comments on Iraq, yes Saddam did rule a secular state, But after the coalition got inside, Iraq got an Interim Constitution which recognized Islam as "a" source of legislation and banned any laws violating the tenets of the Muslim faith. The document entailed a comprehensive bill of rights. Details of Kurdish autonomy were not yet determined, but Iraq is geared towards a federalist system. As a goal (not quota), 25% of the national assembly seats are made up for women. Although the charter is temporary, council members and U.S. executives expect it to serve as the basis for the permanent constitution. The new constitution provides for a Majlis Watani (National Assembly), to be elected no later than January 2005. In the meantime, the transitional government was formed, taking consultation from various sectors of Iraqi society, and the United Nations.

LAW OF ADMINISTRATION FOR THE STATE OF IRAQ
FOR THE TRANSITIONAL PERIOD
Article 7.
A) Islam is the official religion of the State and is to be considered a source of legislation. No law that contradicts the universally agreed tenets of Islam, the principles of democracy, or the rights cited in Chapter Two of this Law may be enacted during the transitional period. This Law respects the Islamic identity of the majority of the Iraqi people and guarantees the full religious rights of all individuals to freedom of religious belief and practice.

The thing is....there are many in Iraq that want sharia law, but the women there are against it and you cannot blame them. After the transfer of power in Iraq there have been many INSIDE the country debating on how they think the elections should go and what Iraq will end up being. Its quite up for grabs really, until the elections who knows what can happen.

One person to keep an eye on is Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani. He is the most important Shiite cleric in Iraq, where the population is about 60 percent Shiite. The reclusive, Iranian-born 75-year-old wields great influence over Iraq’s future. He favors an Islamic state, but not a theocracy as in neighboring Iran. Sistani has said that no law in Iraq should conflict with Islamic principles, and he wants Islam to be recognized in law as the religion of the majority of Iraqis. However, he has not promoted an official role for Islamic clerics in Iraq’s new government. Sistani supports an Islamic state that is compatible with elections, freedom of religion, and other civil liberties...And yet he argues that Iraq's new government should not contradict Sharia.


You also say...why are democracy supporting muslims are not blowing the whistle on this huge muslim conspiracy? AND then why haven't these Iraqis blown the whistle on the british muslim taliban conspiracy which you claim exists?

Perhaps if you would spend time reading and studying what the muslims are taught via the koran you would understand more. First of all, muslims don't defy the teachings or leave the "religion" as its death unto them if they do...and part of the jihad is deception and those in the west that live in silence are supporting the cause. But you will see now due to much pressure that many muslims are speaking out and saying, "They don't agree or that what you see going on around the world is NOT ISLAM and Islam is Peace" But again, that is part of the deception...because What they SAY and what THEY do are two different things.
I am not going to do your homework for you, but here are a few sites you can spend some time on if you are interested.
http://www.memri.org/video/

http://www.islam-exposed.org/

www.theprophetofdoom.net (http://www.theprophetofdoom.net/)

http://www.danielpipes.org/

http://www.malaysiakini.com/letters/29079

http://www.ci-ce-ct.com/Feature%20articles/02-12-2002.asp

http://www.secularislam.org/testimonies/index.htm

www.exmuslims.com (http://www.exmuslims.com/)

http://www.benadorassociates.com/article/6086

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_12-2-2004_pg3_1

http://www.sumka.org/islamic_paradise_e.htm

http://www.chronwatch.com/content/contentDisplay.asp?aid=9187

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=69667

http://www.merip.org/newspaper_opeds/oped082504.html



''The following is my analysis of Islamic invasion of America, the agenda of Islamists and visible methods to take over America by the year 2020,'' Shorrosh says. ''Will Americans continue to sleep through this invasion as they did when we were attacked on 9/11?''

1. Terminate America's freedom of speech by replacing it with statewide and nationwide hate-crime bills.

2. Wage a war of words using black leaders like Louis Farrakhan, Rev. Jesse Jackson and other visible religious personalities who promote Islam as the religion of African-Americans while insisting Christianity is for whites only. What they fail to tell African-Americans is that it was Arab Muslims who captured them and sold them as slaves. In fact, the Arabic word for black and slave is the same, ''Abed.''

3. Engage the American public in dialogues, discussions, debates in colleges, universities, public libraries, radio, TV, churches and mosques on the virtues of Islam. Proclaim how it is historically another religion like Judaism and Christianity with the same monotheistic faith.

4. Nominate Muslim sympathizers to political office to bring about favorable legislation toward Islam and support potential sympathizers by block voting.

5. Take control of as much of Hollywood, the press, TV, radio and the Internet as possible by buying the related corporations or a controlling stock.

6. Yield to the fear of the imminent shut-off of the lifeblood of America – black gold. America’s economy depends on oil and 41 percent of it comes from the Middle East.

7. Yell ''foul, out-of-context, personal interpretation, hate crime, Zionist, un- American, inaccurate interpretation of the Quran'' anytime Islam is criticized or the Quran is analyzed in the public arena.

8. Encourage Muslims to penetrate the White House, specifically with Islamists who can articulate a marvelous and peaceful picture of Islam. Acquire government positions and get membership in local school boards. Train Muslims as medical doctors to dominate the medical field, research and pharmaceutical companies. (Ever notice how numerous Muslim doctors in America are, when their countries need them more desperately than America?) Take over the computer industry. Establish Middle Eastern restaurants throughout the U.S. to connect planners of Islamization in a discreet way.

9. Accelerate Islamic demographic growth via:

Massive immigration (100,000 annually since 1961).


Use no birth control whatsoever – every baby of Muslim parents is automatically a Muslim and cannot choose another religion later.


Muslim men must marry American women and Islamize them (10,000 annually). Then divorce them and remarry every five years – since one can't legally marry four at one time. This is a legal solution in America.


Convert angry, alienated black inmates and turn them into militants (so far 2,000 released inmates have joined al-Qaida worldwide). Only a few ''sleeper cells'' have been captured in Afghanistan and on American soil.

10. Reading, writing, arithmetic and research through the American educational system, mosques and student centers (now 1,500) should be sprinkled with dislike of Jews, evangelical Christians and democracy. There are currently 300 exclusively Muslim schools in the U.S. which teach loyalty to the Quran, not the U.S. Constitution. In January of 2002, Saudi Arabia’s Embassy in Washington mailed 4,500 packets of the Quran and videos promoting Islam to America's high schools – free of charge. Saudi Arabia would not allow the U.S. to reciprocate.

11. Provide very sizeable monetary Muslim grants to colleges and universities in America to establish ''Centers for Islamic studies'' with Muslim directors to promote Islam in higher-education institutions.

12. Let the entire world know through propaganda, speeches, seminars, local and national media that terrorists have hijacked Islam, when in truth, Islam hijacked the terrorists.

13. Appeal to the historically compassionate and sensitive Americans for sympathy and tolerance towards Muslims in America who are portrayed as mainly immigrants from oppressed countries.

14. Nullify America's sense of security by manipulating the intelligence community with misinformation. Periodically terrorize Americans with reports of impending attacks on bridges, tunnels, water supplies, airports, apartment buildings and malls.

15. Form riots and demonstrations in the prison system demanding Islamic Sharia as the way of life, not America's justice system.

16. Open numerous charities throughout the U.S., but use the funds to support Islamic terrorism with American dollars.

17. Raise interest in Islam on America's campuses by insisting freshman take at least one course on Islam.

18. Unify the numerous Muslim lobbies in Washington, mosques, Islamic student centers, educational organizations, magazines and papers by Internet and an annual convention to coordinate plans, propagate the faith and engender news in the media.

19. Send intimidating messages and messengers to the outspoken individuals who are critical of Islam and seek to eliminate them by hook or crook.

20. Applaud Muslims as loyal citizens of the U.S. by spotlighting their voting record as the highest percentage of all minority and ethic groups in America. Shorrosh is a member of the Oxford Society of Scholars, has traveled in 76 countries, and is a lecturer and producer of TV documentaries. ''Islam Revealed'' is a bestseller now in its eighth printing. His forthcoming 10th book, from which the 20-point plan is abridged, is titled ''Islam: A Threat or a Challenge.''

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=33898

Also this was posted on posted on the message boards at Faith Freedom International (http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3551)....but I have heard many muslims say the same type of thing.......

We will fight infidel to death.
Meanwhile, American laws will protect us.
Democrats and Leftist will support us.
UNO will legitimize us.
CAIR will incubate us.
ACLU will empower us.
Western Universities will shelter us.
Hollywood will love us.

Our children will immigrate from Pakistan, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Iran, and Indonesia and even from India to the US for education in full scholarship. America is paying and will continue to pay for our children's educations and their upbringing in state funded Islamic schools.

We will use your welfare system. Our children will also send money home while they are preparing for Jihad.

We will take advantage of American kindness, gullibility, and compassion. When time comes we will stab them in the back to death. We will say one thing on the camera and teach another thing to our children at home. We will teach our children Islamic value from the very childhood. We will teach them not to compromise with Infidel.. Once we do that from the very early age our children won't hesitate to be martyr. We will take over the Europe first and then US. We already have a solid ground in the UK, Holland, Sweden, Spain, Italy, Germany, and US.

Our children will marry Caucasian in Europe and in America. We will mixed with intricate fabric of the Western society but still will remember to Jihad when times come. We are called "sleeper cells". We will raise our children to be loyal to Islam and Mohammad.

At the time of the real fight we will hold our own children as our armor. When American or Israeli troops shoot at us the world will be watching. Imagine,… Imagine the news in the world /. Death of Muslim babies by infidels.

We know CNN, ABC, CBS are broadcasting live. Al-Jazeera will pour gasoline on the fire. The news will spread like wild fire. "Americans killed 6 babies, 10 babies". "Jews killed two women",

Visualize the news flash all over the world, …Moslem mother is sobbing, ….crying. ….Her babies are killed by Jews and Americans, the whole world is watching live. Hundrends of millions of Muslims all around the world are boiling. They will march through Europe. We will use our women to produce more babies who will in turn be used as armor/shield. Our babies are the gift from Allah for Jihad.

West manufactures their tanks in the factory. We will manufacture our military force by natural means, by producing more babies. That is the way it is cheaper.

You infidels at this site cannot defeat us. We are 1.2 billion. We will double again.. Do you have enough bullets to kill us?

On the camera:
We will always say, "Islam is the religion of Piece.."
We will say, "Jihad is actually inner Jihad."
There will be more 911 in Europe and in America.
We will say, "We do not support terrorism but America got what it deserved."

Muslims, CAIR, ISNA and other international Islamic Organization will unite. We will partner with Leftist, ACLU, with Koffi Annan, and the UN, and if we have to then even with France. Fasten your seatbelt, war of civilizations has just begun..

We will use your own values of Kindness against you.

You are destined to loose.

Must be very depressing for you. Isn't it?

Allah-hu-Akbar

http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3551

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