Socialist arrogance at its worst!

[Maggie_T]

Guys, look what The Guardian came up with.

Dear Limey Assholes (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uselections2004/story/0,13918,1329858,00.html)

Please write to this bastards and give them hell. Mind you, try to be polite. Their real intention is to show that Americans are rude, uncivil rednecks. Don't give them the pleasure.

This is what I wrote.

Sir/Madam,

I was deeply troubled to read that your paper encouraged its readers to instruct Americans on whom they should elect to lead their country (America) this coming November.

It seems your paper has entirely forgotten that Americans declared their independence from Birtish rule way back in 1776. Ever since, America has been a free, sovereign country. You should do yourselves a favor and keep that in mind in the future, if you expect to be taken seriously by others than your few socialist readers.

Sincerely,

Please make sure you blame the Guardian and not the entire country. Remember that they are our allies, as Blair has been proving since the 9/11 aftermath.

[Peachdiane]

Please make sure you blame the Guardian and not the entire country. Remember that they are our allies, as Blair has been proving since the 9/11 aftermath.

:hissyfit: Aw Mags! You gonna deprive me of saying something like,

"Dear pieces of shit,

Do the letters "FO" mean anything to you? You vote your own damn leaders and we'll vote ours.

'Nuf said."

J/k :D I'll be nice..... ;)

BTW some of those letters were a hoot! I have tears in my eyes, especially over the one about adding MM to their staff.....

[Faithful_Servant]

Have you not noticed that Americans don't give two shits what Europeans think of us? Each email someone gets from some arrogant Brit telling us why to NOT vote for George Bush is going to backfire, you stupid, yellow-toothed pansies ... I don't give a rat's ass if our election is going to have an effect on your worthless little life. I really don't. If you want to have a meaningful election in your crappy little island full of shitty food and yellow teeth, then maybe you should try not to sell your sovereignty out to Brussels and Berlin, dipshit. Oh, yeah - and brush your goddamned teeth, you filthy animals.I had to explain to my boss why I was rolling on the floor, convulsing in laughter after this one.

Consider this: stay out of American electoral politics. Unless you would like a company of US Navy Seals - Republican to a man - to descend upon the offices of the Guardian, bag the lot of you, and transport you to Guantanamo Bay, where you can share quarters with some lonely Taliban shepherd boys.
I love America!!

KEEP YOUR ****IN' LIMEY HANDS OFF OUR ELECTION. HEY, SHITHEADS, REMEMBER THE REVOLUTIONARY WAR? REMEMBER THE WAR OF 1812? WE DIDN'T WANT YOU, OR YOUR POLITICS HERE, THAT'S WHY WE KICKED YOUR ASSES OUT. FOR THE 47% OF YOU WHO DON'T WANT PRESIDENT BUSH, I SAY THIS ... TOUGH SHIT!
Dude!!

[Peachdiane]

Hopefully your boss isn't a limey... ;)

[UnkHiram]

Here is a copy of the email I just sent to this "Paper"

Dear Sir

I can understand your intrest in the American election, as the most powerfull country in the world and the leader of the Free World the United States does set the standard for all other free nations. However, I would like to gently remind you that the British Empire is no longer in existance. The United States of America successfully waged a war of Independence against the British Crown 228 years ago. You may have noticed some mention of it in one of the more reputable English papers.

Your attempts to involve yourself in our National Election are unwelcome and a violation of American Law. If you really feel the need to meddle in the internal political affairs of another nation I would suggest you restrict yourself to Ireland. Perhaps, eventually you can correct the centuries of abuse your nation has heaped on the Irish people.

I might also add that we as Americans do not involve ourselves in your elections, We as Americans have in the past respected your nations right to choose its own leaders. I would further suggest that unless you wish us to involve ourselves in your internal elections that you grant us the same respect.

I have nothing but respect for the English people and your Prime Minister, however I think your paper has overstepped the bounds of respectable behaviour.

Bill Hocutt
Texan by Birth
American by the Grace of God

[Maggie_T]

Hopefully your boss isn't a limey... ;)
Hopefully, he is. :devil:

[Maggie_T]

Ahh! UnkHiram, ever the gentleman!

Well, done, Unk. I particularly liked the part of Ireland.

[Peachdiane]

LMAO! My kinda girl!!! :D

Unk, great letter! I love this:

I would like to gently remind you that the British Empire is no longer in existance.

[Maggie_T]

... to say thanks from California for your effort and concern. This IS a very important election ... There are so many people here in the States that care about the impact America has on the rest of the world. I am personally saddened for the loss of all innocent lives. The best statement Americans can make to the rest of the world is to not elect Bush for president. Thank you so much for getting involved in our world.
California Ah, yes. The Enemy Within. The inevitable liberal I-love-to-kiss-Euroass cretin. A New World Totalitarianism hopeful. Oh, well.

[Maggie_T]

Can you believe the arrogance of these decayed-toothed morons?

But I must say, the letters from traitors masturbating over socialist Limeys interfering in our elections nearly gave me a cardiac arrest.

I hope to goodness that this gets around and inflames real Americans (not liberal Euroass-kissing traitors).

[Maggie_T]

Do you want to bet that our resident liberal cretins will holler and jump up and down like hungry monkeys in front of a bunch of bananas from pure glee? They are so predictable.

[Peachdiane]

Can you believe the arrogance of these decayed-toothed morons?

English Teeth, English Teeth!
Shining in the sun
A part of British heritage
Aye, each and every one.

English Teeth, Happy Teeth!
Always having fun
Champing down on bits of fish
And sausages half done.

English Teeth, HEROES' Teeth!
Here them click! and clack!
Let's sing a song of praise to them -
Three Cheers for the Brown Grey and Black.

-- Spike Milligan

[Aethariel]

*grabs some bananas, clears his throat, then proceeds to jump up and down and holler:*

Woohoo! Congratulation to the Guardian on their effort-- the UK has been our ally for a long time, and this letter-writing campaign is certainly in the spirit of "friends don't let friends drive drunk." Not that I think their campaign will influence more than a couple-dozen voters, at best, but I appreciate the gesture. After all, it's pretty pointless-- if someone actually gave two damns about the rest of the world, they probably wouldn't have any thought of voting for Bush in the first place.

Really, I bet you guys are just mad because it infuriates you to think that someone with such a cool accent could possibly disagree with your worldview. It must be devastating.

~Aethariel

[Peachdiane]

Heh heh, too easy Maggie....

I cannot wait to hear all the wide mouthed shrieking from the "cool accent" Euroweenies after Bush wins. Hopefully they'll cap their teeth but it's small hope since their medical system takes 18 months or more... :crazy:

[UnkHiram]

*grabs some bananas, clears his throat, then proceeds to jump up and down and holler:*

Woohoo! Congratulation to the Guardian on their effort-- the UK has been our ally for a long time, and this letter-writing campaign is certainly in the spirit of "friends don't let friends drive drunk." Not that I think their campaign will influence more than a couple-dozen voters, at best, but I appreciate the gesture. After all, it's pretty pointless-- if someone actually gave two damns about the rest of the world, they probably wouldn't have any thought of voting for Bush in the first place.

Really, I bet you guys are just mad because it infuriates you to think that someone with such a cool accent could possibly disagree with your worldview. It must be devastating.

~Aethariel
Aethariel

This may come as a surprise to you but some of us dont think anyone should involve themselves in American politics that Does not live in the United States. I wonder if you would also applaud if the Washington Times did the same thing for the French Elections.

I dont care about the accent, sorry I am not that shallow and I doubt very many people on this board are that shallow. At least not the Conservatives people on this board, the liberals do seem to be hung up on how the rest of the world thinks about us.

[Aethariel]

This may come as a surprise to you but some of us dont think anyone should involve themselves in American politics that Does not live in the United States.
Yes, and I'm sure the Taliban felt the same way, but sadly, the fact that you don't think other countries involve themselves with our country's politics is utterly irrelevant. I'm not saying the US and the Taliban are even in the same league when it comes to moral fibre-- that would be idiocy. However, the base point still remains-- if other countries find the politics and policies of another country dangerous or threatening to their national security, they have every right to intervene for their own safety. (Does any of this sound like familiar rhetoric?) The same right extends full well to organizations and individuals-- no-one here would have raised a hissy fit if people or news organizations tried to reach out to pre-war Afghanistan in an effort to affect change.

What you seem unwilling to recognize is that other countries, and many, many people abroad now view America's foreign policies as very dangerous, both to their health of their country, the world, and even their individual lives. You think this opinion is stupid, unsubstantiated crap-- I know, great. But they still have every right to write letters, emails, or hell, even invade the country.

I wonder if you would also applaud if the Washington Times did the same thing for the French Elections.
If the French people were intent on electing someone who Americans and the nationals of other countries widely saw as a dangerous, extremist ideologue, then of course I would applaud their actions.

This whole thing isn't a matter of the British government backing a particular candidate, or wealthy foreign financiers tossing huge cash around-- it's concerned citizens writing emails that say "hey, you guys have a big election coming up, and from our side of the Atlantic, the one choice really scares us." Is that so offensive to you?

I dont care about the accent, sorry I am not that shallow and I doubt very many people on this board are that shallow. At least not the Conservatives people on this board, the liberals do seem to be hung up on how the rest of the world thinks about us.
Oh, geez, it was a joke. Funny. Haha. *sigh*

~Aethariel

[UnkHiram]

If the French people were intent on electing someone who Americans and the nationals of other countries widely saw as a dangerous, extremist ideologue, then of course I would applaud their actions.
This is pure political bigotry. President is Bush is not a Dangerous extremist Ideologue. If he was he would not have helped to pass the KENNEDY education bill and we would not have had the Campaign Finance Reform Act become Law. Neither item is conservative in nature


This whole thing isn't a matter of the British government backing a particular candidate, or wealthy foreign financiers tossing huge cash around-- it's concerned citizens writing emails that say "hey, you guys have a big election coming up, and from our side of the Atlantic, the one choice really scares us." Is that so offensive to you?


Oh, geez, it was a joke. Funny. Haha. *sigh*

~AetharielYes it is offensive to me for any Foreign National to get involved in American Politics.

[Maggie_T]

English Teeth, English Teeth!
Shining in the sun
A part of British heritage
Aye, each and every one.

English Teeth, Happy Teeth!
Always having fun
Champing down on bits of fish
And sausages half done.

English Teeth, HEROES' Teeth!
Here them click! and clack!
Let's sing a song of praise to them -
Three Cheers for the Brown Grey and Black.

-- Spike Milligan

ROFLMBO!!!!!!

Aw, that's just because their socialist health care system is so bad. Incidentally, that's the same system Kerry plans to smite us with.

[Warlady]

Great letter's Maggie and Unk. I happen to think that the Guardian doing this will backfire on them. People don't like to be told what to do by foreigners. Well Michael Moore type followers do but most Americans don't. I doubt there are many Michael Moore fans in Iowa, Ohio or Idaho.

[Naturalized-Texan]

Aethariel:
So, you are still pretending that the 9/11 terrorist attacks never happened and that the terrorists didn't slaughter nearly 3,000 innocent Americans. Good God, the terrorists declared war on the United States and everything that we have done since then - liberating 50 million people in Afghanistan and Iraq - is completely justified by the terrorists' declaration of war against the United States.

[Antigone]

Great letter's Maggie and Unk. I happen to think that the Guardian doing this will backfire on them. People don't like to be told what to do by foreigners. Well Michael Moore type followers do but most Americans don't. I doubt there are many Michael Moore fans in Iowa, Ohio or Idaho.
Ya got that right Warlady. There are a few here in Idaho, but they are transplants anyway. We don't claim them. :D

[Aethariel]

This is pure political bigotry. President is Bush is not a Dangerous extremist Ideologue.
*sigh* I realize you think that, Unk, but that doesn't mean that a lot of people abroad disagree with you. Since you seemed to miss it the first time:

What you seem unwilling to recognize is that other countries, and many, many people abroad now view America's foreign policies as very dangerous, both to their health of their country, the world, and even their individual lives. You think this opinion is stupid, unsubstantiated crap-- I know, great. But they still have every right to write letters, emails, or hell, even invade the country.

Other nations see Bush and our current foreign policy plans as threats to their security. It isn't an issue of "bigotry," it's a matter of accepting what many non-Americans now think of us. Are they right? In the most part, probably not. I'm sure that you would be concerned if, for example, Mexico was considering electing a head of state who advocated widespread military aggression and the development of a nuclear arms program. Writing a letter to a Mexican and saying "you guys, we've been allies forever, and this is a really bad choice. We're all hoping you don't elect this lunatic-- don't be swayed by his propaganda into thinking the rest of the world supports him."

Yes it is offensive to me for any Foreign National to get involved in American Politics.
All they're doing is writing a letter, and trying to give someone a personal opinion from abroad. In the end, this entire fiasco will probably end up gaining far more votes for Bush than Kerry-- primarily because of reactionary, conservatives hacks who can't wrap their minds around the fact that many in Europe feel seriously threatened by this administration's policies and aims. No, no-- it's really just because they're stupid, meddling socialists. It couldn't possibly be the fact that enough people fear for the welfare of themselves and their families that thousands of people want to participate in a letter-writing campaign to another continent. Silly socialists-- if only they'd grow up and accept that war is peace!

~Aethariel

[Naturalized-Texan]

Other nations see Bush and our current foreign policy plans as threats to their security.
It's only the socialist leaders of those countries feel that way because the U.S. has shut off Saddam's oil-for-food money spigot that was pouring money into their personal pockets.

[Kathy29]

The Guardian said that Bush comes from the Tony Martin School of Foreign Policy! As well he should, and so should we all. Tony Martin is the posterboy of the ultimate weenie state.

FREE TONY MARTIN!

[kate]

It's only the socialist leaders of those countries feel that way ! EXACTLY! :flame: And by possessing over 75% of our media they are getting great support by the newspapers/channels in making people believe that Bush is a threat for our national security.. Which is where I'm back at my "common sense" to ask: Who is a threat for my security?

A terrorist who tries to force his opinion and beliefs upon the rest of the world by killing families and innocent people

or

someone who searches and destroys that terrorist-bastard?

THAT is the point that no TV-channel or reporter would even dare to think about while the guy who signs his pay-check votes for the libs.

:flame:

[Naturalized-Texan]

kate: :claps: :claps: :claps:

[Warlady]

Bravo Kate!!

Aetherial said: "*sigh* I realize you think that, Unk, but that doesn't mean that a lot of people abroad disagree with you."
I'm sure to a liberal this makes sense.

[kate]

I'm sure to a liberal this makes sense.I bet. It even makes sense to them to call "the most democratical country" into the US to observe their elections... :rolleyes:

You must either be getting a lot of money or be really stupid for supporting a statement like that.

Sometimes, regarding this country being full of these jerks - and to say this, disturbs me - I wished I wasn't German.

[Maggie_T]

Great letter's Maggie and Unk. I happen to think that the Guardian doing this will backfire on them. People don't like to be told what to do by foreigners. Well Michael Moore type followers do but most Americans don't. I doubt there are many Michael Moore fans in Iowa, Ohio or Idaho.
Warlady, one of the letters to the Guardian said exactly that.

I enjoy reading your paper and agree with your politics, but this is really too much.Your plan, if carried out, will hurt the Bush opposition TERRIBLY. We cannot afford to have this associated with John Kerry or anyone else. It will be; the press is going in for a kill, days before the election.
United States
The left's psycopathic hatred for Bush will be their undoing yet.

[Maggie_T]

Kate, great post! :thumb:

[UnkHiram]

*sigh* I realize you think that, Unk, but that doesn't mean that a lot of people abroad disagree with you. Since you seemed to miss it the first time:


I think that Aethariel because that is what it is. To brand some one a Dangerous Extremist Idealogue because they DISAGREE with you is Political Bigotry.



Other nations see Bush and our current foreign policy plans as threats to their security. It isn't an issue of "bigotry," it's a matter of accepting what many non-Americans now think of us. Are they right? In the most part, probably not. I'm sure that you would be concerned if, for example, Mexico was considering electing a head of state who advocated widespread military aggression and the development of a nuclear arms program. Writing a letter to a Mexican and saying "you guys, we've been allies forever, and this is a really bad choice. We're all hoping you don't elect this lunatic-- don't be swayed by his propaganda into thinking the rest of the world supports him."


As I stated before, I would NEVER write a letter to any other nations voters in an attempt to sway their votes. It is None of My business who they elect. IF after electing that fringe canidate Mexico starts to threaten the United States then it becomes my business. BTW In case you missed it, which you obviously did, I Dont give a Tinkers Damn what the people in any foreign nation think of our President or our Foreign Policies. The Foreign Policy of the United States is meant to Benefit the United States NOT Europe.


All they're doing is writing a letter, and trying to give someone a personal opinion from abroad. In the end, this entire fiasco will probably end up gaining far more votes for Bush than Kerry-- primarily because of reactionary, conservatives hacks who can't wrap their minds around the fact that many in Europe feel seriously threatened by this administration's policies and aims. No, no-- it's really just because they're stupid, meddling socialists. It couldn't possibly be the fact that enough people fear for the welfare of themselves and their families that thousands of people want to participate in a letter-writing campaign to another continent. Silly socialists-- if only they'd grow up and accept that war is peace!

~Aethariel
Too Friggin Bad that Many of the Socialist appeasers feel threatened by the Fact that the United States will no longer Tolerat Terrorism. Maybe they dont mind having their people slaughtered by Islamic Fanatics BUT we do. Just for the record the absense of war does not neccesarily mean Peace. After all When the Russian Tanks rolled into Poland, Hungary and East Germany after the end of World War 2 there was no active war but I seriously doubt any of those oppresed people would tell you that they were at peace.

[Apollo5600]

But they still have every right to write letters, emails, or hell, even invade the country.

Seeing as how they are a bunch of spineless fools that will never happen, but the day they can decide who our president is, is the day they pry our country from our cold dead hands.