Domestic Goddess

[Human_Error]

http://fascinatingwomanhood.net/books/fwoman.jpgFascinating Womanhood
~~by Helen B. Andelin~~ This book is really good and it does a great job explaining to women how men view love relationships, what they really want and need out of them. It teaches the true meaning of femininity and how it differs from masculinity. It provides a role model for women to pattern from, a model of the ideal woman from a man's point of view, the kind men adore. A classic best seller that has sold over two million copies. It has helped millions of women find true happiness in marriage and can do the same for you.


Here is the website for this book and other books she has written
http://fascinatingwomanhood.net/

[Rightknight]

Thats GOOD TO SEE! :thumb: TRUE Womenhood/Femininity has been under attack for YEARS in our culture and in a very CLOAKED fashion. By bashing the natural Masculin roles in our media without letup they (LIBERALISM) have allso been helped to distroy the WONDERFULL/BEAUTIFUL thing called Femininity. You cant have one without the other so the harming of one does the same to the other. This forum should have been FULL by now but its NOT and thats SAD! Even so called CONSERVATIVES are part of the problem in our culture today in there being influenced by the EVIL excesses of the LIBERAL WOMENS MOVEMENT! We as a culture need to REDISCOVER the BEAUTIFULL WONDERFULL thing called FEMININITY and in the process stop BASHING AWAY at MASCULINITY!

[Katt]

Oh, what a nice book... from what I can see on the website it's basically a book teaching women to become prissy 50's housewives instead of being themselves. A womes role should be in the home, living quietly only to please her husband.... right...
Honestly, my outspoken attitude and rough apperance is what drew my ex-boyfriend to me. He loves me for who I am, and if I attemped to mask that I know he wouldn't love me anymore! (ps: we only broke up cuz I don't feel ready for a relationship yet... we're still great friends, and he still is obsessed over me)
Women shouldn't live to please thier boyfriends/husbands... that's like slavery! We have voices! We have personalaties! We have dreams! We are all in all completely and totally equal to men. Thats the way it should be in a relationship as well... My ex gave me the same respect that I give him... and that's the way a relationship should truly be.

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

Oh, what a nice book... from what I can see on the website it's basically a book teaching women to become prissy 50's housewives instead of being themselves. A womes role should be in the home, living quietly only to please her husband.... right...

Uhmmm, that's my life, thank you very much, what's WRONG with it if I CHOOSE it? Doesn't a liberated woman have the right to choose how she lives her life . . . or is she only free if she chooses to please herself instead of her husband?

Honestly, my outspoken attitude and rough apperance is what drew my ex-boyfriend to me. He loves me for who I am, and if I attemped to mask that I know he wouldn't love me anymore! (ps: we only broke up cuz I don't feel ready for a relationship yet... we're still great friends, and he still is obsessed over me)

I would say the "ex" in your story says it all. My outspoken attitude was also what drew my Bubba to me. That hasn't changed, but I have. I'm still outspoken -- but that doesn't mean I focus that ability towards my husband. I very much respect and love him -- doesn't mean we agree on everything, and that's not the point.

Women shouldn't live to please thier boyfriends/husbands... that's like slavery!

I agree that a woman shouldn't LIVE to please her husband (a boyfriend is absolutely irrelevant until he becomes a legally married partner). A woman should WANT to please her husband, and he should want to please her. If both of those requirements are met, both parties are satisfied. The problem comes when two are unequally yoked -- one wants to please the other, but the other doesn't.

We have voices!
What does that have to do with wanting to please a spouse? Are you saying all husbands muzzle their wives?

We have personalaties!
What does that have to do with wanting to please a spouse? Are you saying all husbands keep their wives away from any social events, friends, family, functions and gatherings?

We have dreams!
What does that have to do with wanting to please a spouse? Are you saying all husbands never want the very best for their wives, so they deny them their dreams?

We are all in all completely and totally equal to men.
Nope, you got that one wrong. Men and women are NOT totally equal, we are different. Just a fact of life. Not a good thing, not a bad thing, just reality. Show me a man that can get pregnant. From the very beginning, our anatomy is different, our genetic make-up is different. Men's body design is more conducive to heavy lifting, their brains are more hardwired for logic and calculation, whereas a woman's is more toward nurture and emotion related areas. Again, this is not a bad thing, it is not a good thing, it is a reality thing. (And this in no way discounts those rarities, such as women body builders, male nurses, lady firefighters, male daycare workers, etc. -- there are exceptions to just about every rule . . . but that's the point, they are exceptions, not the rule.)

Thats the way it should be in a relationship as well... My ex gave me the same respect that I give him... and that's the way a relationship should truly be.

No, I have to disagree with you here too. A (married) relationship is not, despite popular claims, a 50/50 proposition . . . it is a 100/100 endeavor. BOTH parties must put their all into it for it to work. That means putting the other and his/her needs, wants, and desires, first. The misconception is that in doing so, one loses their own identity -- but that's just not the way it is. I am still the crazy, kooky, spontaneous, dare-devil girl my Bubba married, but now I have even MORE fun because I know my Bubba has my back, and he knows I have his . . . first and foremost because we are always thinking of the other and NOT doing things to put our relationship in jeopardy.

Just because someone CAN do something doesn't mean they should, nor does it make it right. Example: CAN I go to bars partying with other people, including other men? Sure ... I CAN, but should I and does it make it right? No, and no, and why? Because it would hurt the one I love, and I would NEVER do that (at least not on purpose) ... pleasing him means MORE to me, than pleasing me, and the reverse goes for him.

You know, before you take the time to dis something, it would be beneficial to actually KNOW something about the topic you are tackling. My suggestion would be for you to get and read the book ... then your critique might hold a little more water.


By the way .... welcome to FC. I see you have made yourself comfortable. Hope you enjoy the lively debate and discussion, and I look forward to more of your posts, here and in other forums.

[Black Jacques Shellac]

http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/this_britain/story.jsp?story=618472

Desperate to be housewives: young women yearn for 1950s role as stay-at-home mums

By Maxine Frith, Social Affairs Correspondent
10 March 2005

modern woman has taken a reality check. The average 29-year-old now hankers for a return to the lifestyle of a 1950s housewife. The daughters of the "Cosmo" generation of feminists want nothing more than a happy marriage and domestic bliss in the countryside, according to a survey.
Research into the attitudes of 1,500 women with an average age of 29 found that 61 per cent believe "domestic goddess" role models who juggle top jobs with motherhood and jet-set social lives are "unhelpful" and "irritating". More than two-thirds agree that the man should be the main provider in a family, while 70 per cent do not want to work as hard as their mother's generation. On average, the women questioned want to "settle down" with their partner by 30 and have their first child a year later.

Vicki Shotbolt, deputy chief executive of the National Family and Parenting Institute, said: "This is the generation of young women who have seen the 'have it all' ethos up close and personal, and they have realised that it doesn't work.

"Their own mothers may have tried to juggle motherhood and careers, and it may have been the children who feel they lost out ... I think women really are coming of age now, and are accepting that it is virtually impossible to have it all."

And after decades of soaring divorce rates and a rise in births outside marriage, it appears the next generation of mothers is reverting to more traditional social mores.

[Antigone]

Homeschool - you are my hero. :thumb:

Katt- Guess what? Not only is my life similar to Homeschool, but I'm gonna really piss you off here and tell ya something. I like to cook, sometimes like to clean :laugh:, and generally take care of my home and family. That makes me less of a person??? Less of a woman?? I don't think so. It means I have strengths that are different from my husband's. We each bring something to our marriage. As HS said, marriage is a 100%/100% deal. I know couples who do the 50/50 thing. They are unhappy as can be. Always complaining because the other one didn't "do" something that was "their" part of the bargain. Instead of working together toward an end goal of a happy home and family regardless of who does what, they nitpik over little issues and pervceived wrongs by the other person. That is not a marriage.

Frankly, I can be a "prissy 50's housewife" and still express myself. I just don't have to knock my hubby down and chip away at him in order to do it.

[jag]

Uhmmm, that's my life, thank you very much, .


LOL, me too http://webpages.charter.net/connectingzone/misc/5.gif
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You, and Antigone took the words right off my keyboard this time. While your at it - what's for dinner?

[Antigone]

LOL, me too http://webpages.charter.net/connectingzone/misc/5.gif
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You, and Antigone took the words right off my keyboard this time. While your at it - what's for dinner?

Dang, your smilies are makin' me tired!!! LOL!

As for dinner, it WAS going to be a stuffed pork roast, but I just found out we are out of raisins. Maybe I can substitute gummy bears??:question:

Now, I'm looking for something different to do with chicken boobs. (That didn't sound right did it)? I would have roasted a whole chicken instead if I had it, but alas, I only have some skinless boneless breasts (the chicken's, not mine) to work with instead.

[jag]

LOL...for crying out loud for now on I will be calling them chicken boobs and my husband will think I'm trying to seduce him. Skinless chicken breasts sounds so much more culinary.



Yeah, he's that easy :blush:

[Antigone]

Yeah, he's that easy :blush:

You make that sound like it's a bad thing. :laugh:

[jag]

Oops, my bad :cool:

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

Antigone, jag --

http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/images/icons/biglaugh.gifNow you BOTH owe me a new keyboard!! I had tears runnin' down my face, and the kids were wondering why I was crying, LOL.


Not sure about dinner yet, don't know what sounds good to my tummy at this point in the day ( http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/images/icons/frightened.gif you'd think I'd know by now, 4:34pm, LOL), with Bubba only minutes away.


I must say, to both of you , I am humbled and honored to be in your presence - :worshippy - we are a unique, elite, and most wonderful club!

Long life the domestic goddess, hurrah!

[Rink]

I Personally would rather be a housewife.

I have a guy right now and hope things work out cuz he's so sweet to me.

Time will tell.

When you're in love with someone, your one itch is to make the one you love happy, and they would in turn do the same for you, its natural.

I LOVE the idea of a nurturing 'mother' type, I love that idea as its one of THE most important job in the world.

Taking care of the house (your castle) raising your kids, (who is the first to set their feet on the path of righteousness and virtue? MOM does.

Who teaches kids right and wrong and guides kids? Takes care of their boo-boos and loves em without question and admonishes them when they do wrong first?

Mom's do.

Mothers have the most important, most noble job in the world and I LOVE that idea.

Thats what women were meant to be.

God made women this way for a reason.

[Black Jacques Shellac]

What women like Katt don't seem to realize is that they are the new oppressors of women. Her post is one long vitriolic denigration of many women's choice of lifestyle. It implies that if you choose domesticity, you are prissy, a slave, you have no dreams or personality. Talk about choice-limiting peer-pressure!

Katt's free to be as loud and obnouxious as she likes. There are small minorities of men who like just about any kind of woman imaginable, and if she wants to limit her appeal to them, that's her business, her right. But it is the ultimate hypocrisy to wail about her right to be what she wants to be, then insult those women who want to be something else and who dare espouse the pleasure they find in their chosen identities.

Same goes for the men who appreciate these women. Women like Katt will chide them for prefering a domestic goddess. As if it's their place to tell men what preferences they are allowed to hold! Just as Katt is free to be and prefer what she wnts, so are men free to prefer who they want. I'm pretty sure men's rights have not yet been eroded to the point that they must have their tastes dictated by feminists.

[jag]

What women like Katt don't seem to realize is that they are the new oppressors of women. Her post is one long vitriolic denigration of many women's choice of lifestyle. It implies that if you choose domesticity, you are prissy, a slave, you have no dreams or personality. Talk about choice-limiting peer-pressure!



Ironic, isn't it.

[Antigone]

Ironic, isn't it.

Amazing isn't it? It is, IMHO, the women of NOW, and those women like them, that have done more damage to women than any man ever could.

[LadyHawk108]

I used to think I was conservative when it came to feminism until I saw this.....grrrrrr


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[Rink]

What was the picture????

[LadyHawk108]

I thought I finally had it figured out, Rink. When Ken gets home tomorrow, I'll have him fix it again.

[Rink]

If its a pic you want posted, just send it my way and I'll stuff it up on my website so that all can see it.

Dunno if uploading pics works or not, have no idea, not done it, but having a pic on a webspot and a URL to link to will allow it to be seen.

Lemme know if you want me to host it for you k?

[LadyHawk108]

Rink, I sent you an email with the link if you can get it posted for me. Sorry everyone!!!

[Rink]

LadyHawk, when did you send the email I dont see it, and what was its title?

I get a lotta spam and I may have accidentally tossed it without knowing who it was from :/

[Rink]

PS: is it a picture if it is, just send me the picture, as I tried the addy by right-clicking your X boxed no pic and I get a login page.

I can take most any picture extension file.

[Beowulf]

I know this. If we were more financially secure, my wife would WANT to be a Domestic goddess. She works hard where she is not so much because she wants to but because she has to. She's told me on many occasions that if she could, she would spend more time at home with our son, maybe even home schooling. She's spoken of it but we just haven't been able to make it happen.

If a woman wants and can be a Domestic Goddess, it's her perogative. If she wants to work out-of-the-home, that's her choice, too. Either way I'll support her. I think I've made my feelings clear.

[LadyHawk108]

Okay, I think I am finally going to be able to post the link to this site. I can't help but think of June Cleaver when I read this.

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/goodwife.html

[GI Jane]

Oh gag me!! Glad I live in this era!! That ad is almost identical to the "Welcome to the Military, Mrs. Lieutenant" brochure I received when my husband became a lieutenant, except they wanted me to show up for a tea party with the General's wife wearing a hat and white gloves. I should have showed up wearing my helmet and chem gloves. Clearly the brochure has never been updated.

[Black Jacques Shellac]

That "ad" has long been known to be a modern hoax. Someone wanted to discredit the 50's ideal. And people with an agenda gob it up.

[TheRealLobo]

To all the ladies here:

All y'all and Mrs. Lobo have a LOT in common. Perhaps that's why I love the Conservababes.

To the husbands of these delightful women:

Thank them, and help them with the dishes tonight. You score BIG deposits in the love bank for that. Keep it in mind for when you f*ck up.

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

Hey Lobo,

How are you!?! Hope all is well with you and yours. Thanks so much for the encouraging words! Gonna have to drag my Bubba's tush in here to the computer and make him read your post :smirky: . We conservababes are blessed too . . . speaking for me, I have a loving hubby who APPRECIATES me for the domestic goddess I am. Sounds like Mrs.Lobo is equally as blessed.

Hope you'll be around for a while, but if not, be safe, and I'll be praying for you!
Many Blessings,
Hms

[TheRealLobo]

Hey Lobo,

How are you!?! Hope all is well with you and yours. Thanks so much for the encouraging words! Gonna have to drag my Bubba's tush in here to the computer and make him read your post :smirky: . We conservababes are blessed too . . . speaking for me, I have a loving hubby who APPRECIATES me for the domestic goddess I am. Sounds like Mrs.Lobo is equally as blessed.

Hope you'll be around for a while, but if not, be safe, and I'll be praying for you!
Many Blessings,
Hms

You're a sweetie.

Seeing your handle reminded me to let you know...Little Lobo is now in the 3rd grade, and we are having a GREAT time with math and history. I get to teach him those two, and Mrs Lobo is doing the hard stuff.

We are having a ball.

Hugs.

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

You're a sweetie.

Seeing your handle reminded me to let you know...Little Lobo is now in the 3rd grade, and we are having a GREAT time with math and history. I get to teach him those two, and Mrs Lobo is doing the hard stuff.

We are having a ball.

Hugs.

Lobo,
That is FANTASTIC!!! I know Little Lobo is benefiting SO much . . . the memories created and cherished will be worth more than diamonds and gold. I loved the elementary years. Watching the little light go on in their eyes when they "get it," is such a high! Pass on my prayer for blessings to them for me, would you? That just thrills my heart.

Just to update you on us, Li'l Bubba went for his interview with the College Professor in charge of the vo-tech program at our local community college that is offered for dual enrollment. His application was accepted, he scored in college level on all aspects (except math http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/images/icons/icon9.gif, but we got him a tutor), and just this morning his interview went smashing! We'll hear mid-May whether he was accepted for the program. If the interview is any indication, he should make it with no problem.

Anyway, I'm glad you'll be around for a while! Please share my good thoughts for your families homeschooling endeavors. I KNOW you guys have made the right choice.

Blessings to you all, always,
Hms