God Help America

[RayChuang]

Brian Reade
The Daily Mirror (Great Britain)
November 4, 2004

Read the full commentary here (http://www.mirror.co.uk/columnists/brianreade/)

(NOTE: This commentary may change by the time you read the link, but you can read his older commentaries on that web page)


<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width=""> <tbody><tr><td>THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN..

</td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2">
</td></tr> </tbody> </table> <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="392"> <tbody><tr><td height="3">http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/design/clear.gif</td></tr> <tr><td colspan="3"> THEY say that in life you get what you deserve. Well, today America has deservedly got a lawless cowboy to lead them further into carnage and isolation and the unreserved contempt of most of the rest of the world.

This once-great country has pulled up its drawbridge for another four years and stuck a finger up to the billions of us forced to share the same air. And in doing so, it has shown itself to be a fearful, backward-looking and very small nation.

</td></tr></tbody> </table> I hate to say this, Mr. Reade, but your :hissyfit: attitude has no sympathy from us Americans, so there. :tongue:

[DoctorDoom]

<img src="http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/mirror/sep2001/0/5/0003CF11-DC07-1B94-97F580C328EC02B2.JPG" border="1" align="left" hspace="8" />This is the smug, fruity little puke who authored that piece of trash. He apparently suffers from the delusion that his opinions are relevant.

As far as the Mirror goes, it's on a par with the Guardian for credibility.

Reade, stuff your head back up your arse and resume your coma.

[RedWhiteBlue]

Hey Doc, don't 'candy coat' your feelings here toward this clown, Reade...tell us what you REALLY think! :claps:

[Black Phoenix]

He's probably not done, (I know because I haven't seen any cussing, a less desirable thing about this board, its just tolerated... oh wait... never mind:duh: ) this was a pretty stupid thing for Reade to say.

[DesertFox]

One imagines Reade is as queer as he looks. That's enough reason to find him distasteful though not enough to disregard him.

His remarks, however, amply qualify him for Liberal Idiot status.

[Black Phoenix]

The liberal battle cry

LET'S MAKE MORE ENEMIES!!!!

Now they target patriots.

(I don't get the refenece to him being gay though. C'mon, we're Conservative Repulicans here, far above a bunch of street punks who call everything they don't like "gay")

[Triller]

Your number 1 enemy is the terrorist. Your number 2 enemy is the gay. Everyone knows this, why pretend? ;)

I watched the US election in a room with about 50 people from many different countries. I would say 90% of those wanted kerry to win. It was quite obvious from the cheering and booing. I didn't need to poll.

This Brian Reade person has just said what most people think around the world, although he did say some stuff I disagree with such as the "fearful, backward-looking and very small nation." part. If I meet a foreign person it is almost guaranteed that if we get onto politics they will not favour the Bush administration. Not that anyone here will care I'm sure.

[Wyatt_Junker]

I watched the US election in a room with about 50 people from many different countries.
Well, well, well. We are the ****ing world. Let me guess, you sat wedged between the passel of Zulus with spear in hand and the Fronchman cutting wet farts.

[Rink]

http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/mirror/sep2001/0/5/0003CF11-DC07-1B94-97F580C328EC02B2.JPGThis is the smug, fruity little puke who authored that piece of trash. He apparently suffers from the delusion that his opinions are relevant.

As far as the Mirror goes, it's on a par with the Guardian for credibility.

Reade, stuff your head back up your arse and resume your coma.
hey Doc ya know that old saying?

"Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one"

That should apply to this twit.

[mabzie]

<img src="http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/mirror/sep2001/0/5/0003CF11-DC07-1B94-97F580C328EC02B2.JPG" border="1" align="left" hspace="8" />This is the smug, fruity little puke who authored that piece of trash. He apparently suffers from the delusion that his opinions are relevant.

As far as the Mirror goes, it's on a par with the Guardian for credibility.

Reade, stuff your head back up your arse and resume your coma.

oh...

i thought this was his banner: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v330/mabzie/0003CF11-DC07-1B94-97F580C328EC02B2.jpg

[mabzie]

hey Doc ya know that old saying?

"Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one"


and most smell.

especially European ones. :laugh@sad

[tacitus]

I watched the US election in a room with about 50 people from many different countries. I would say 90% of those wanted kerry to win. It was quite obvious from the cheering and booing. I didn't need to poll.


Impressive thriller but so what.

Perhaps you should evaluate why you post here and head for greener pastures. No one gives a shit what you think, or with whom you watch TV. In other words, http://freeconservatives.com/smilies/boid.gif

[shawnwood]

I forget, when was I supposed to give a shit what the rest of the world thinks of us anyway. This was an election to vote in the next President of the USA. The only reason they are pissed off is because we are taking out terrorist, and these other countries will no longer be albe to profit from them! Don't like our election process? Dont' like who WE THE PEOPLE OF THE USA voted for? Don't like us? GOOD! No one invited you to look in anyway and I for one do not give a shit what you all think. Besides what the F@CK have you and your country done? Aside from queers and crap, what the hell does the UK provide the world?

A dangerous chameleon, his charming exterior provides cover for a power-crazed clique of Doctor Strangeloves whose goal is to increase America's grip on the world's economies and natural resources.
Maybe I am just a dumb heathen, but does any body REALLY want to listen to some pompous ass try and sound uber-intelligent? Listen one of the things I really like about GW is the way he talks and communicates. He talks like me and the poeple I know. Someone I could really grab a cold one with (he no longer drinks so we could grab some tall cold ROOT BEERS) and have a conversation without having to refer to a thesaurus. Just because you spent WAY to much time learning big words, does not make you a better person, and does not make you smarter then everyone else
:kissmygri :nutkick: :finger: :moon: http://freeconservatives.com/smilies/boid.gif

[Beowulf]

I watched the US election in a room with about 50 people from many different countries. I would say 90% of those wanted kerry to win. It was quite obvious from the cheering and booing. I didn't need to poll.

This Brian Reade person has just said what most people think around the world, although he did say some stuff I disagree with such as the "fearful, backward-looking and very small nation." part. If I meet a foreign person it is almost guaranteed that if we get onto politics they will not favour the Bush administration. Not that anyone here will care I'm sure.
Triller, do you really think we Americans really give a rat's ass as to what the rest of the world thinks? They're whining now about the war in Iraq and the war against terrorism. I'm willing to bet that if the Bin Laden gang flew a plane into Buckingham Palace, the Eiffel Tower or some other mark that is important to these Liberal Europeans they would think very differently.

We already know that England will probably vote out Tony Blair. There loss. At least he's had the balls to take a stand. France and Spain have already surrendered to the terrorists. By the looks, England will join them.

I'm not attacking you personally, Triller, but foreign countries are quick to criticize us when we do something they don't like yet just as quick to be our buddy when they will benefit financially from something we do. No offense but Europeans are becoming a bunch of two-faced wimps.
And I saw a British headline today that got my blood boiling, something like, "How can 59 million Americans (the exact number I don't know) be so stupid," referring to the 59 million plus Americans who voted FOR George Bush. To those who think that I say:finger: . England may as well vote out Blair and elect a Neville Chamberlain alike candidate:flame: .

[Kathy29]

I don't care much of what the rest of the world thinks of us. They're like poor relatives, they hate you, but when they want something, you got a new best friend.

Has Europe EVER thought that Americans were anything BUT gun-totin cowboys. I don't mind. I like it. I embrace the heritage of the gun-totin cowboy. It's uniquely that of my country.

So Mr. Reade, I say with clarity "Don't Tread On Me".

[Jeffrho]

If a few years the Euro-wimps will be begging us to liberate them from the islamofascists, just like we liberated them from the German fascists 60-some years ago.

[ronin9]

please,what self respecting AMERICAN would give a crap what some foreign idiot wants to think?if they did their homework(instead of watching cnn or the bbc),they would realize what a great country we are and always have been.thank GOD bush won again.now,how about that border situation?:patriot:

[DoctorDoom]

Your number 1 enemy is the terrorist. Your number 2 enemy is the gay. Everyone knows this, why pretend?I don't care if he's a pouf. However, he has that smarmy "Queer Eye" look that screams, "A Quid A Blow!"

I watched the US election in a room with about 50 people from many different countries.Oh, how trés multicultural. Was there a language barrier, or do they all speak the common tongue, Cowardese?

I would say 90% of those wanted kerry to win.Well, golly gee whiz all gosharootie, if you had provided your phone number, we'd have rung you to ask how you wanted to vote. :rolleyes:

It was quite obvious from the cheering and booing. I didn't need to poll.Fortunately, you jelly-spined cravens don't have any influence here.

This Brian Reade person has just said what most people think around the world...And assuming that your blanket statement has any validity whatsoever, we should care because?

If I meet a foreign person it is almost guaranteed that if we get onto politics they will not favour the Bush administration.I don't recall that anyone asked for their worthless opinions.

Not that anyone here will care I'm sure.10-4 on that, good buddy.

[Estragon]

I watched the US election in a room with about 50 people from many different countries. I would say 90% of those wanted kerry to win. It was quite obvious from the cheering and booing. I didn't need to poll.

This Brian Reade person has just said what most people think around the world, although he did say some stuff I disagree with such as the "fearful, backward-looking and very small nation." part. If I meet a foreign person it is almost guaranteed that if we get onto politics they will not favour the Bush administration. Not that anyone here will care I'm sure.


You should understand that we never listen to the foreigners because we are already the most powerful nation, both economically and militarily, in the world. We are strong, rich, and virile. Why would we listen to the foreigners unless we wanted to end up as weak, poor, and impotent as their countries are?

We neither need nor desire any nation's or organization's permission to act in defense of our national interests. We put up with Euro=peon whining and backbiting while we were protecting the flaccid continent from the Soviet Empire for nearly fifty years - after twice saving it from German imperialism in the previous thirty. We don't have have to listen to it anymore, and we won't.

We will tell you what we are going to do. If you would like to help, great, and maybe we'll owe you one down the road somewhere. If you don't want to, that's fine, too. But don't come begging for favors from us if you don't. Cheese and rice, has no one on that blighted continent ever seen The Godfather?

What the stupid Euro=peon weenies don't understand is that their support for Kerry actually drove voters to Bush. The American wimps who care what you think were already voting for Kerry, dumbasses.

We don't tell you which pompous socialist to elect in your own decaying countries, and we will not tolerate your attempts to interfere in our elections. You can get together with as many drunken punks over there as you wish, and complain about "American arrogance" to your little black heart's content. Just keep it to yourselves.

A couple of examples of what I mean:

When Dizzy Dean broke in as a dazzling Cardinal rookie pitcher in the early 1930s, his public boasts of what he was going to do to opposing hitters won him criticism as "an arrogant braggert."

Dean shrugged it off: "It ain't braggin' IF you can do it."

Around the same time, World Chess Champ Alexander Alekhine was playing Efwim Bogojubov, a highly ranked grandmaster but not of Alekhine's stature, in a tournament. Their game was dead even, and Bogoljubov offered a draw. Alekhine refused, but on his next turn, offered the draw to Bogoljubov, which was accepted.

Alekhine was later asked why he didn't just agree to the draw in the first place. He answered, "When I play Bogoljubov, we make a draw when I want to, not when he wants to."


The sad part is, most of the Euro=peons have no idea what either means.

:duh:

[Wyatt_Junker]

Nuttin' better than one of Trey's chess yarns. Always appreciated.

[The_Sonarman]

Welcome to the chatsite mazbie. I'm always glad to see more fellow Veterans on the chat site.

I am "yet another Ugly American" who doesn't care what foreign politicians, foreign citizens, and foreign press thinks about who or who is not elected to US political office. I also don't much care what foreign politicians, foreign citizens, and foreign press thinks about the "backwards" barbarian Americans.

To our foreign friends, I say thank you.

To our foreign enemies, I say stuff it. If you don't like us enough, come and try to kill us. We'd be pleased to return the favor.

To Mister Reade, thank you for your opinions. I choose to disregard all of them. Your country wasn't attacked, with four commercial jets filled with innocent people killed, and more killed in a collapsing skyscraper. What do you think President Bush should have done? Nothing?

[Black Phoenix]

Your number 1 enemy is the terrorist. Your number 2 enemy is the gay. Everyone knows this, why pretend? ;)
Your number 1 enemy is religion, number 2, the NRA, admit it.
I actually don't see gays as enemies any more than hetros who use and lose women. They're all perverts to me. Marriage isn't just about sex.

I watched the US election in a room with about 50 people from many different countries. I would say 90% of those wanted kerry to win. It was quite obvious from the cheering and booing. I didn't need to poll.

Any of them from Isreal, South Korea, Japan? When intrests change, opinions change. I doubt the Japanese wanted Kerry to run private talks with their arch nemise.

This Brian Reade person has just said what most people think around the world, although he did say some stuff I disagree with such as the "fearful, backward-looking and very small nation." part. If I meet a foreign person it is almost guaranteed that if we get onto politics they will not favour the Bush administration. Not that anyone here will care I'm sure.
Most people around the Globe thought Germany and Japan were not a threat for quite some time until they were hit, did that make them right? Being in the majority matters? No, if I think you're wrong, what you think matters, but it shouldn't change my view. Being right often matters more than being agreed with.

Not a single cuss word, and yet still a beaten up liberal, take notes guys.
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[True American]

Aside from queers and crap, what the hell does the UK provide the world?



Shawn, I agree completely that the guy who wrote this trash is a retard, but we need to embrace the UK. The United Kingdom does have a ton of prissy little homos who have opened their mouths far too wide against our "ELECTED BY A LANDSLIDE" President and their very own Prime Minister, but please give some honor to those who are working aside our men & women in uniform in Iraq.

Remember them as we should remember your own brother. They have been there for us this time around.
At the height of the war, about 46,000 British troops were in Iraq. About 8,500 remain.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/10/21/iraq.main/

[Black Phoenix]

It is unfortuanate, you're right. Great Britian, according to Bush even, is our greatest ally. It's too bad their population isn't majority for this war. But it should be pointed out, there is a good and large number who agree with Bush on this war as well.

[Faithful_Servant]

I watched the US election in a room with about 50 people from many different countries. I would say 90% of those wanted kerry to win. It was quite obvious from the cheering and booing. I didn't need to poll.What countries were they from? UAE, Syria, Canada, N. Korea? You're getting boring, Troller.

[Black Phoenix]

Don't look at it as boring, look at it like this. It's like a forth grader trying to explain math to Einstien! Kid hasn't got a clue why he's even talking about it I sure. This is so much fun. (I take a lot of cues from Rush if you're catching on.)

[shawnwood]

Shawn, I agree completely that the guy who wrote this trash is a retard, but we need to embrace the UK. The United Kingdom does have a ton of prissy little homos who have opened their mouths far too wide against our "ELECTED BY A LANDSLIDE" President and their very own Prime Minister, but please give some honor to those who are working aside our men & women in uniform in Iraq.

Remember them as we should remember your own brother. They have been there for us this time around.
At the height of the war, about 46,000 British troops were in Iraq. About 8,500 remain.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/10/21/iraq.main/

You are correct. The Government of the UK has been there with us. :claps:

[Triller]

What countries were they from? UAE, Syria, Canada, N. Korea? You're getting boring, Troller.
Greece, France, America, China, Hongkong, Turkey, English (of course), that I know of. Undoubtably many more as 50% of the people here are foreign students and I didn't know everyone in the room.

[DoctorDoom]

Undoubtably many more as 50% of the people here are foreign students...Well, that takes care of the rationale. A bunch of ignorant heads full of mush whose lips are locked to the butts of Shamu Mooron et al, and who are oblivious to the real world, scarcely constitute a cross-section of world opinion.

[Triller]

I didn't say I was taking a wide ranging poll. In the world US foreign policy is regarded much like chaotic weather. People cannot do anything about it, but if conversation turns that way they tend to grumble about it. It's not a serious hatred, just a mild dislike.

[Sinanju]

"It's not a serious hatred, just a mild dislike."



Give us time, pansy....

[Triller]

Sorry you will have to be more specific. Can't be bothered to waste time trying to analyse such vague subtleness.

[UnkHiram]

WHo cares what this little twerp thinks. I believe that we made it clear on July 4th 1776 just how important to us that "British Public Opionon" is.

[UnkHiram]

Your number 1 enemy is the terrorist. Your number 2 enemy is the gay. Everyone knows this, why pretend? ;) I aint pretending YES our number 1 enemy is the Terrorist, HOWEVER our number 2 enemy is the idiots that support them or believe that by giving into them that the Terrorist will "Act Nice". Gays are not my enemy, I couldnt care less about them. The only time I think about them is when they start demanding "Special Status" because of their sexual perversion.


I watched the US election in a room with about 50 people from many different countries. I would say 90% of those wanted kerry to win. It was quite obvious from the cheering and booing. I didn't need to poll.
I watched the US election in a room with about 50 people also. They were all from East Texas and they were all Repulicans. They also were all able to VOTE in an American election ---- so unlike the people you watched it with their opionons actually MATTERED.



This Brian Reade person has just said what most people think around the world, although he did say some stuff I disagree with such as the "fearful, backward-looking and very small nation." part. If I meet a foreign person it is almost guaranteed that if we get onto politics they will not favour the Bush administration. Not that anyone here will care I'm sure.I think I have made it clear elsewhere but on the chance you didnt read that post I will repeat myself. I DONT GIVE A FLYING FORK what the people in "Great" Britian or Europe think about our President. The Sun has set permanently on the British Empire and the rest of Europe aint worth a pile of cow manure.

[LadyHawk108]

WHo cares what this little twerp thinks. I believe that we made it clear on July 4th 1776 just how important to us that "British Public Opionon" is.STOP THIS!
I'm a very intense American Historian. Please, stop bickering with United Kingdom Patrons.

First of all, it was France who settled the Americas when they sent Norsemen (Vikings) asail for them in 1497. They found Greenland, Iceland and they found "Newfoundland" Canada. Mapping a pathway to the Pacific Ocean across the great divide was actually done by 1566. This excursion had the French moving throughout the northeastern Americas well into the 1600's.

John Smith didn't actually map Massachusetts Bay until 1610. Smith mapped the entire coastline of Eastern America, but settled his colony in Jamestown, Virginia. Once Smith did settle in Virginia, and English began moving northward, they clashed with the French from Canada. Of course, there were the Indians to contend with as well, so eventually, this lead to the French & Indian War which England eventually won because the expenses of holding settlements so far from the mainland of France were just too burdenous.

France not only surrendered the land to England but they drew up a treaty that England would acquire their debts in America. The Pilgrims didn't land here until 1620 and that was a mission that was blown off course by westerly storm winds and took the Pilgrims over 66 days to accomplish. They weren't supposed to land on Cape Cod. They were supposed to land in Virginia.

However, once all was said & done after the French & Indian War, the treaty drawn up said that England would acquire Frances' debts here, French would speak only English, (including changing their names) and the Indians would own rights by all water sides. In time, the English needed to secure more water or perish, so they had to begin wiping out Indian population for their own survival. This is why the American Indian hates our guts. We slaughtered them in the thousands. We stole their land and we have given them nothing to repay them for our deeds.

We WERE the British Civilians. We ARE the outcome of Britains rule.

In the Revolutionary War, King George III imposed upon us taxes which we thought we weren't being given rights to oppose. We opposed them anyway as being taxed without representation and King George III imposed upon us The Intolerable Acts. Closing the Boston Harbor, The Quarters Act, The Tea Act... among others. Militant Rebels stole arms from British Garrisons and Forts and smuggled them from the City of Boston. They smuggled them out to small villages outside the city. CONCORD, Mass. was one of these locations. Eventually, Gen. Gage, In command at Boston Common was given the orders to march to Concord and confiscate and destroy these arms. On their way to Concord, they were to collect John Hancock and Samuel Adams who were supposedly hiding in Lexington and place them under arrest for their positions in the First Continental Congress and their slander against the king under pseudonems in the underground colonies news papers.

We all know what happened that day... shot heard round the world and all...
It started in Lexington on April 19th 1775 and carried on until 1781 when Cornwallis surrendered to Washington in Yorktown, Va. The French were in the Bay at York pounding the fort from the water as Washington advanced on the crippled fort. It was France who allowed the Revolutionaries to advance and win that battle and King George had been defeated. HOWEVER, it was a battle of Englishman against Englishman. Heart felt battle of relatives against relatives. Many lives were lost. Many hearts were broken and France had finally beat England.

Our second battle for Independence against England was the war of 1812 when we tried to move into Canada against the French and fight our nemesis Britain as they attempted to take the ports of Baltimore and New Orleans. This war was much like Vietnam for America. A Stalemate. Still, we proved that we were strong enough to proceed with a resolve toward foreign disputes. This was the war that placed America in the world community of superpowers. We have been an Ally of both France & Britain ever since.

We all know what happened in World War II. We showed up on the beaches to keep England free from Germany. In the process of moving Germans back to Germany, we also freed France. We're even now with all of Europe. However, we needed a hand in this war we currently find ourselves engaged in. England has been beside us. Tony Blair has been our dearest friend. British soldiers are dying once again for the cause of America's fight.
We owe them our praise! We owe them our thanks.

Surely, we will have our critics. We had a man attempting to become president of our own country who condemns our actions. Why is it so unbelievable that we will find Liberals protesting us abroad? We need to stay focused. Bush is our President. He will remain so. The people have spoken. Tony Blair is still with us. To Hell with the French. As I said, "We're Even!"

We will win this war on terror as we have won every single other war we've ever had. One of the best things about being the world's melting pot is: We've acquired the greatest defense secrets from those who have joined us. A good example is: Albert Einstein designing the Atomic Bomb. He was a German/Jew. This is America today. We don't fear rhetoric from the weak. We defeat the strong!

God Bless The United Kingdom for standing beside us in our current battles and may God Save The Queen as well.

[Maggie_T]

I watched the US election in a room with about 50 people from many different countries. I would say 90% of those wanted kerry to win. It was quite obvious from the cheering and booing. I didn't need to poll.

This Brian Reade person has just said what most people think around the world, although he did say some stuff I disagree with such as the "fearful, backward-looking and very small nation." part. If I meet a foreign person it is almost guaranteed that if we get onto politics they will not favour the Bush administration. Not that anyone here will care I'm sure.
Triller, we already know you're just another stupid, brainwashed liberal. You've gone out of your way to prove it. You can give it a rest now.

And I don't care how many losers were in the same room you were (man, that place must have stunk). Communists are like humidity: they're everywhere. And just as annoying.

So stop thinking that just because a bunch of commie losers gathered in a same room and booed at Bush, that means "the world" is against Bush. Hate to crush you, junior, but I have friends and family in Europe and they were very happy that Bush won, and kept sending us congratulations.

The only thing you have to keep in mind now is that


BUSH WON! FOUR MORE YEARS OF GOOD CONSERVATIVE GOVERNMENT!

LIVE WITH IT!


Do you understand, kid? Good. Now go back to your room with the rest of the 50 losers and drink, or drug, yourselves into a stupor to ease your pain.

[Rink]

Oone thing, there's a lotta Irish in America that dont take kindly to European meddling or British meddling in American affairs.

Nuff said.

Bush won get used to it.

[UnkHiram]

STOP THIS!
I'm a very intense American Historian. Please, stop bickering with United Kingdom Patrons.

First of all, it was France who settled the Americas when they sent Norsemen (Vikings) asail for them in 1497. They found Greenland, Iceland and they found "Newfoundland" Canada. Mapping a pathway to the Pacific Ocean across the great divide was actually done by 1566. This excursion had the French moving throughout the northeastern Americas well into the 1600's.

John Smith didn't actually map Massachusetts Bay until 1610. Smith mapped the entire coastline of Eastern America, but settled his colony in Jamestown, Virginia. Once Smith did settle in Virginia, and English began moving northward, they clashed with the French from Canada. Of course, there were the Indians to contend with as well, so eventually, this lead to the French & Indian War which England eventually won because the expenses of holding settlements so far from the mainland of France were just too burdenous.

France not only surrendered the land to England but they drew up a treaty that England would acquire their debts in America. The Pilgrims didn't land here until 1620 and that was a mission that was blown off course by westerly storm winds and took the Pilgrims over 66 days to accomplish. They weren't supposed to land on Cape Cod. They were supposed to land in Virginia.

However, once all was said & done after the French & Indian War, the treaty drawn up said that England would acquire Frances' debts here, French would speak only English, (including changing their names) and the Indians would own rights by all water sides. In time, the English needed to secure more water or perish, so they had to begin wiping out Indian population for their own survival. This is why the American Indian hates our guts. We slaughtered them in the thousands. We stole their land and we have given them nothing to repay them for our deeds.

We WERE the British Civilians. We ARE the outcome of Britains rule.

In the Revolutionary War, King George III imposed upon us taxes which we thought we weren't being given rights to oppose. We opposed them anyway as being taxed without representation and King George III imposed upon us The Intolerable Acts. Closing the Boston Harbor, The Quarters Act, The Tea Act... among others. Militant Rebels stole arms from British Garrisons and Forts and smuggled them from the City of Boston. They smuggled them out to small villages outside the city. CONCORD, Mass. was one of these locations. Eventually, Gen. Gage, In command at Boston Common was given the orders to march to Concord and confiscate and destroy these arms. On their way to Concord, they were to collect John Hancock and Samuel Adams who were supposedly hiding in Lexington and place them under arrest for their positions in the First Continental Congress and their slander against the king under pseudonems in the underground colonies news papers.

We all know what happened that day... shot heard round the world and all...
It started in Lexington on April 19th 1775 and carried on until 1781 when Cornwallis surrendered to Washington in Yorktown, Va. The French were in the Bay at York pounding the fort from the water as Washington advanced on the crippled fort. It was France who allowed the Revolutionaries to advance and win that battle and King George had been defeated. HOWEVER, it was a battle of Englishman against Englishman. Heart felt battle of relatives against relatives. Many lives were lost. Many hearts were broken and France had finally beat England.

Our second battle for Independence against England was the war of 1812 when we tried to move into Canada against the French and fight our nemesis Britain as they attempted to take the ports of Baltimore and New Orleans. This war was much like Vietnam for America. A Stalemate. Still, we proved that we were strong enough to proceed with a resolve toward foreign disputes. This was the war that placed America in the world community of superpowers. We have been an Ally of both France & Britain ever since.

We all know what happened in World War II. We showed up on the beaches to keep England free from Germany. In the process of moving Germans back to Germany, we also freed France. We're even now with all of Europe. However, we needed a hand in this war we currently find ourselves engaged in. England has been beside us. Tony Blair has been our dearest friend. British soldiers are dying once again for the cause of America's fight.
We owe them our praise! We owe them our thanks.

Surely, we will have our critics. We had a man attempting to become president of our own country who condemns our actions. Why is it so unbelievable that we will find Liberals protesting us abroad? We need to stay focused. Bush is our President. He will remain so. The people have spoken. Tony Blair is still with us. To Hell with the French. As I said, "We're Even!"

We will win this war on terror as we have won every single other war we've ever had. One of the best things about being the world's melting pot is: We've acquired the greatest defense secrets from those who have joined us. A good example is: Albert Einstein designing the Atomic Bomb. He was a German/Jew. This is America today. We don't fear rhetoric from the weak. We defeat the strong!

God Bless The United Kingdom for standing beside us in our current battles and may God Save The Queen as well.
I stand by my statement. We Kicked the Brits out of America 228 years ago, I dont give a da** what they think of our President or our Country. The British Govt has proven to be our Staunchiest Ally BUT I suspect that is because every time they NEED US we help them. As for your historical references Let me point out My Ancestors founght The British Twice (1776 and 1812), I dont need a History Lesson. Allow me also to point out I was born and breed in TEXAS, our revolution was against Mexico. I dont feel any great animosty or kinship to England.

[Samcat]

Greece, France, America, China, Hongkong, Turkey, English (of course), that I know of. Undoubtably many more as 50% of the people here are foreign students and I didn't know everyone in the room.
Well, we don't give a damn about what they think (the foreign students) and most of the people here feel the same about what you think.

So what is your point?

[Samcat]

Triller, we already know you're just another stupid, brainwashed liberal. You've gone out of your way to prove it. You can give it a rest now.

And I don't care how many losers were in the same room you were (man, that place must have stunk). Communists are like humidity: they're everywhere. And just as annoying.

So stop thinking that just because a bunch of commie losers gathered in a same room and booed at Bush, that means "the world" is against Bush. Hate to crush you, junior, but I have friends and family in Europe and they were very happy that Bush won, and kept sending us congratulations.

The only thing you have to keep in mind now is that


BUSH WON! FOUR MORE YEARS OF GOOD CONSERVATIVE GOVERNMENT!

LIVE WITH IT!




Do you understand, kid? Good. Now go back to your room with the rest of the 50 losers and drink, or drug, yourselves into a stupor to ease your pain.

You can not make it any clearer than that, Maggie T...

Well said!!

[kate]

I stand by my statement. We Kicked the Brits out of America 228 years ago, I dont give a da** what they think of our President or our Country. The British Govt has proven to be our Staunchiest Ally BUT I suspect that is because every time they NEED US we help them. As for your historical references Let me point out My Ancestors founght The British Twice (1776 and 1812), I dont need a History Lesson. Allow me also to point out I was born and breed in TEXAS, our revolution was against Mexico. I dont feel any great animosty or kinship to England.
wtf?


Surely, we will have our critics. We had a man attempting to become president of our own country who condemns our actions. Why is it so unbelievable that we will find Liberals protesting us abroad? We need to stay focused. Bush is our President. He will remain so. The people have spoken. Tony Blair is still with us. To Hell with the French.
I think LadyHawk made a well good point there:claps: and you are talking just on and on. Sorry but, I just recently read on bbc.co.uk about more British soldiers that died in Iraq. I think its a matter of respect to now not come up with all that crap. The majority of the British are on the right side, and as long as the soldiers are fighting to ensure our/your freedoms you should really not come up with this stuff you did.

[True American]

I stand by my statement. We Kicked the Brits out of America 228 years ago, I dont give a da** what they think of our President or our Country. The British Govt has proven to be our Staunchiest Ally BUT I suspect that is because every time they NEED US we help them. As for your historical references Let me point out My Ancestors founght The British Twice (1776 and 1812), I dont need a History Lesson. Allow me also to point out I was born and breed in TEXAS, our revolution was against Mexico. I dont feel any great animosty or kinship to England.
"A-Hem!" It's history, my friend which brings us to exactly where we are today. Don't get me started on the Mexican War.... LOL
That's another two page lesson. I'm in Texas too. We were, "Once Again" Englishmen along with other white europeans heading westward simply taking again what didn't belong to us because our president drew up a Manifest Destiny. Texas, and all the western states all the way up to Denver and Salt Lake City were once Mexico. Maybe, just MAYBE, this is why we're so lax on our border patroling. I don't know. I DO know that I live in Texas as well, and no ancestors anywhere in this entire country of european disent didn't have a part in settling this land from east to west.

Fact is: English fought French and Indians. Then fought each other in 1775-1781, and then fought each other again in 1812, and even again as we fought brother against brother in the Civil War. English are tired of fighting each other. Therefore, we now fight united against other foes. Check back to the link I sent in this thread to Shawn...

England is behind us right now. They are dying for me & YOU!
They deserve some respect.

These loudmouth twits you're talking to aren't the government officials of the UK. You're fight is with the exact same liberal idiots we're against right here at home. They aren't the populus and they don't make the decisions of who they back militarily. I hate to come across as being harsh, but you need to sit down and work all this out for yourself.

You're fight isn't with the majority of Brits. Your battle is with the artsy fartsy aristocrats. Be careful to separate them as we owe Great Britain much in this current war.

[True American]

The Welsh were by far the largest ethnic group involved in the drawing up of the American Constitution and it was Welsh descendant Jefferson who wrote the Declaration of Independence. We remember this involvment with pride in Wales. Especially in my home town of Llanarmon yn Ial - after which your Yale took his name.


Just a quick note here: The Declaration of Independence was actually a beefed up version of John Locke's "On Civil Government" written close to 100 years prior to Jeffersons article to King George III. However, your history is otherwise correct.

[Grant]

Your number 1 enemy is the terrorist. Your number 2 enemy is the gay. Everyone knows this, why pretend? ;)

I watched the US election in a room with about 50 people from many different countries. I would say 90% of those wanted kerry to win. It was quite obvious from the cheering and booing. I didn't need to poll.

This Brian Reade person has just said what most people think around the world, although he did say some stuff I disagree with such as the "fearful, backward-looking and very small nation." part. If I meet a foreign person it is almost guaranteed that if we get onto politics they will not favour the Bush administration. Not that anyone here will care I'm sure.
Triller, you damned cockeyed brainwashed liberal scum! :wave:

I say, if all these countries around the world disagree with our great president, we should invade them all. Make the entire world agree with us by force, and kill all liberal scum we find along the way!

Who the hell do these people think they are? What do they know about America anyway? I think it's time we brought freedom to these bastards, eh?

[Black Phoenix]

I didn't say I was taking a wide ranging poll. In the world US foreign policy is regarded much like chaotic weather. People cannot do anything about it, but if conversation turns that way they tend to grumble about it. It's not a serious hatred, just a mild dislike.

Uhh buddy, if that's the case, why are you bothering us?


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[Longhorn_Platinum]

Allow me also to point out I was born and breed in TEXAS,...
:duh: We didn't need to know that.

[Bluemoon_Rising]

The . . . er . . . man . . . is unhinged.

[kate]

Triller, you damned cockeyed brainwashed liberal scum! :wave:

I say, if all these countries around the world disagree with our great president, we should invade them all. Make the entire world agree with us by force, and kill all liberal scum we find along the way!

Who the hell do these people think they are? What do they know about America anyway? I think it's time we brought freedom to these bastards, eh?
What hole did you crawl out of? Canada? Listen up Yankee, I think your ignorance and arrogance is unasked for in this topic. We have enough on the liberal side of the discussion. Who the hell do YOU think you are? I can really picture you in a jet trying to bomb the rest of the world and crashing into the first mountain there is.

Fool.

[DoctorDoom]

Sister Kate, I believe the operative word re Grant's post is "sarcasm". What he stated is, after all, what the looneytoon leftists routinely accuse America of plotting.

[Samcat]

We are plotting our freedom, and anyone who messes with us is going to pay dearly.

[kate]

Sister Kate, I believe the operative word re Grant's post is "sarcasm". What he stated is, after all, what the looneytoon leftists routinely accuse America of plotting.
I dunno, to me he seems like he's a liberal trying to make some sorta joke in his sarcastic way..