AZScreamingEagle
11-10-2004, 01:22 PM
The Democratic Party needs a makeover badly. This much is
clear. I am thrilled that the Republicans have done so well, but
as a rule, a democracy really cannot be sustained without any
serious opposition parties. Somewhere in the mid 20th Century, the
Democratic Party got hijacked by a bunch of elitist-silver-spoon-in-
the mouth-commu-liberalists. This party needs to get back to its
blue collar grass roots, "Party of the People, For The People." heritage.
John Kerry obviously wasn't the answer,a rich elitist billionaire is the last
thing you need when you want to remake your image.
Thats like buying a slaughterhouse when you promise to go
vegetarian. Democrats can still succeed, but they need someone
who will appeal to the people, a man(or woman) of the people.
John Kerry is not of the people. John Kerry is not the guy who
understands what a farmer in Nebraska goes through, regardless of
his two or three experiences on a tractor. Hillary Clinton is not
the woman who understands what a single mom in Kentucky
goes through, working two jobs and just trying to make check
by check. John Edwards has possibilities, but his trial lawyer ways
and in this case, partnership with Kerry, turns the situation into
deflation by association. Bill Clinton was successful because he
reached out to the people, of all cultures and races, of all social
and economic classes. Clinton inspired the upper-Manhattan
socialite as much as he inspired the rural Baptist farmer, or the
suburban middle class Catholic/Protestant accountant. He had
charisma and the instinct on how to approach different people, he
understood that not everyone is seeking the same thing, or wants
exactly what he wants.
This is lost on the liberals of today. They seem
to feel that because they are Democrats, their feelings automatically
represent the feelings of the mass majority. I think at this point in
time they are shocked and flabbergasted to learn that most of
America DOESN'T share their values or viewpoints. It wasn't just
the "religious right" that voted down gay marriage in 11 states.
There were Bush voters, Kerry voters, Nader....whatever, the point
was clear that this is a situation that Americans do not want, but it
seems that the liberal elite is intent on stuffing this down our throats.
What do they expect will happen? It seems they expected people to
swallow it whole, digest it, wave a happy lefty flag and say "Thank
you sir, may I have another?"
The following is an excerpt from John L. Perry, the link can be found at the
bottom. I feel it breaks down the situation in America very well and in
a way, reveals the things that both sides fail to see.
BEGIN EXCERPT-
<LI>Not everyone living in the blue counties is amoral, possessed of no ethical values, sneering at the rubes residing in cookie-cutter cornfield communities who aren’t sophisticated enough to prefer to exist in high-crime, hypertensive, ultra-expensive, drug-infested metropolises.
<LI>Not everyone living in red counties is a fire-and-brimstone evangelical frothing at the mouth at the very idea of dwelling in the same country, not to mention the same neighborhood, with anyone even remotely of a different ethnic, religious or linguistic upbringing.
<LI>The larger truth is Americans, from blue or red counties, have more in common with one another than they have differences.
<LI>This became dramatically evident when all of America saw New Yorkers, their fellow Americans, performing heroic acts of selflessness in the awful hours after terrorists struck on Sept. 11, 2001.
<LI>New Yorkers watched with understanding appreciation as children all across this land took up collections for them and Southern cities bought fire trucks and drove them up to Manhattan as gifts of gratitude.
<LI>It was not Hispanic Americans who gave Bush his victory. Or evangelical Americans. Or Jewish Americans. Or African Americans. Or Ohio Americans. Or Florida Americans. It was Americans – nearly 60 million of us, of all hues and habitats.
<LI>Any combination of those could have denied Bush reelection had they stayed home or voted no. But they didn’t, and that’s the point.
<LI>This whole preposterous preoccupation with voter groups is a farce – as if Americans vote in blind uniformity by artificial groupings.
<LI>Americans vote as individual Americans – not all alike, certainly, but actually more alike than not alike.
<LI>This country is not split, if that means down the middle or close to it. Nor is it divided, as if there are only two points of view on the table.
<LI>Rather, America is a countless multiplicity of highly individualistic points of view on an endless array of subjects.
<LI>What motivates some Americans to one viewpoint is not what motivates others to the same viewpoint.
<LI>There are a zillion different sub-publics – not ever “the public,” as opinion pollsters seem to think. And each of us, from the moment we wake up until we fall asleep again, pops up from time to time in one after another of those sub-publics.
<LI>And when we do appear in one of those sub-publics we are in the company of like-minded Americans who come from a myriad of backgrounds different from our own. Indeed, this may be the only time during the day or night we are co-occupants of any sub-public with those same people.
There’s something rather magical – certainly typically American – about this phenomenon. It’s what came into play on Nov. 2, 2004.
It’s what political pollsters, far-left Democrats and far-right Republicans can’t get through their ideological noggins.
But the whopping majority of the American people get it, though not always, but they certainly got it on election day in 2004.
Only Radical Eradication Will Do
If Democrats expect ever again for decades to gain back the White House and both houses of Congress, they’re going to have to toss their ideologues over the side and begin their own rediscovery of America.
Same for Republicans if they want to keep this ball rolling.
What both camps are going to find is that the true governing majority in this country is not wedded to any political ideology. The party that opens its heart, its mind and its door to those Americans who don’t always pop up in the same sub-public with them will become the party of this New America
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/11/10/85045.shtml
This is true of the situation in America today. Both sides
have their radicals, God knows the Republicans have plenty, guys like
Keyes and a whole lot of others. The Republican leadership is however
more moderate, it appeals to the everyday guy and gal, the worker and
farmer, urbanite and suburbanite. It may not appeal to the elitist snobs
and we all know they tried with all their might to crush this "redneck
revolution" but it is clear that America is not a liberal country. We
are not a centrist nation, we definitely swing to the right. America has
seen how Communism, Socialism and liberalism have caused problems
and poverty in other nations. The unemployment rate in Germany is
over 10% right now and the bottom looks like it is about to fall out.
THIS is the kind of system that Kerry wanted us to emulate???? Our
system will never be perfect, no matter who runs the show, but we
do the best we can, so if we see a system has a track record of 0%
success worldwide, why in heavens would we assume that by some
divine blessing we are destined to do better??????
The bottom line is this, the Democrats need to drop
the trash, drop the radicals and the idealists that are ruining their party.
They need to get rid of all this extra weight that has slowly dropped
them to the bottom of the heap in the American nation. They need
to get back to their roots. How can this happen? By listening to
the people, really listening, not some crapshoot poll by Zogby that
insists that 95% of all New York liberals or San-Frannies support gay
marriage, higher taxes, and a golden calf erected to the Sun God.
Go back and reach out to the everyday people, the ones you will never
see hobknobbing at a DC Environmentalist Gathering or a $5,000 a
plate fundraiser at the Ritz-Carlton. Reach out to the people who
you won't read about in the New Yorker or The Progressive. Set up
a system of values that is in tradition with the Democratic Party but
yet is consistent with the values that a majority of America still
believes in. Here's a clue, America is not ready for gay marriage yet.
Instead of going for it all, perhaps they should have tried civil unions,
only about 30% of Americans are opposed to that. Compromise and
America will respond accordingly. Don't go out and tear into the
people, calling the Bush voters "rednecks" or "white trash" or just
plain "ignorant." These are the same ignorant white trash rednecks
that will keep the Dems out of office for years until they get their act
together. This needs to happen soon, unless the Democrats want to
crash and burn, becoming another footnote in the history books, just
like the Whig Party.
:patriot:
AZScreamingEagle..........a once Democrat,
turned Republican, turned Army veteran, hoping and praying for
a better and more unified United States of America.
clear. I am thrilled that the Republicans have done so well, but
as a rule, a democracy really cannot be sustained without any
serious opposition parties. Somewhere in the mid 20th Century, the
Democratic Party got hijacked by a bunch of elitist-silver-spoon-in-
the mouth-commu-liberalists. This party needs to get back to its
blue collar grass roots, "Party of the People, For The People." heritage.
John Kerry obviously wasn't the answer,a rich elitist billionaire is the last
thing you need when you want to remake your image.
Thats like buying a slaughterhouse when you promise to go
vegetarian. Democrats can still succeed, but they need someone
who will appeal to the people, a man(or woman) of the people.
John Kerry is not of the people. John Kerry is not the guy who
understands what a farmer in Nebraska goes through, regardless of
his two or three experiences on a tractor. Hillary Clinton is not
the woman who understands what a single mom in Kentucky
goes through, working two jobs and just trying to make check
by check. John Edwards has possibilities, but his trial lawyer ways
and in this case, partnership with Kerry, turns the situation into
deflation by association. Bill Clinton was successful because he
reached out to the people, of all cultures and races, of all social
and economic classes. Clinton inspired the upper-Manhattan
socialite as much as he inspired the rural Baptist farmer, or the
suburban middle class Catholic/Protestant accountant. He had
charisma and the instinct on how to approach different people, he
understood that not everyone is seeking the same thing, or wants
exactly what he wants.
This is lost on the liberals of today. They seem
to feel that because they are Democrats, their feelings automatically
represent the feelings of the mass majority. I think at this point in
time they are shocked and flabbergasted to learn that most of
America DOESN'T share their values or viewpoints. It wasn't just
the "religious right" that voted down gay marriage in 11 states.
There were Bush voters, Kerry voters, Nader....whatever, the point
was clear that this is a situation that Americans do not want, but it
seems that the liberal elite is intent on stuffing this down our throats.
What do they expect will happen? It seems they expected people to
swallow it whole, digest it, wave a happy lefty flag and say "Thank
you sir, may I have another?"
The following is an excerpt from John L. Perry, the link can be found at the
bottom. I feel it breaks down the situation in America very well and in
a way, reveals the things that both sides fail to see.
BEGIN EXCERPT-
<LI>Not everyone living in the blue counties is amoral, possessed of no ethical values, sneering at the rubes residing in cookie-cutter cornfield communities who aren’t sophisticated enough to prefer to exist in high-crime, hypertensive, ultra-expensive, drug-infested metropolises.
<LI>Not everyone living in red counties is a fire-and-brimstone evangelical frothing at the mouth at the very idea of dwelling in the same country, not to mention the same neighborhood, with anyone even remotely of a different ethnic, religious or linguistic upbringing.
<LI>The larger truth is Americans, from blue or red counties, have more in common with one another than they have differences.
<LI>This became dramatically evident when all of America saw New Yorkers, their fellow Americans, performing heroic acts of selflessness in the awful hours after terrorists struck on Sept. 11, 2001.
<LI>New Yorkers watched with understanding appreciation as children all across this land took up collections for them and Southern cities bought fire trucks and drove them up to Manhattan as gifts of gratitude.
<LI>It was not Hispanic Americans who gave Bush his victory. Or evangelical Americans. Or Jewish Americans. Or African Americans. Or Ohio Americans. Or Florida Americans. It was Americans – nearly 60 million of us, of all hues and habitats.
<LI>Any combination of those could have denied Bush reelection had they stayed home or voted no. But they didn’t, and that’s the point.
<LI>This whole preposterous preoccupation with voter groups is a farce – as if Americans vote in blind uniformity by artificial groupings.
<LI>Americans vote as individual Americans – not all alike, certainly, but actually more alike than not alike.
<LI>This country is not split, if that means down the middle or close to it. Nor is it divided, as if there are only two points of view on the table.
<LI>Rather, America is a countless multiplicity of highly individualistic points of view on an endless array of subjects.
<LI>What motivates some Americans to one viewpoint is not what motivates others to the same viewpoint.
<LI>There are a zillion different sub-publics – not ever “the public,” as opinion pollsters seem to think. And each of us, from the moment we wake up until we fall asleep again, pops up from time to time in one after another of those sub-publics.
<LI>And when we do appear in one of those sub-publics we are in the company of like-minded Americans who come from a myriad of backgrounds different from our own. Indeed, this may be the only time during the day or night we are co-occupants of any sub-public with those same people.
There’s something rather magical – certainly typically American – about this phenomenon. It’s what came into play on Nov. 2, 2004.
It’s what political pollsters, far-left Democrats and far-right Republicans can’t get through their ideological noggins.
But the whopping majority of the American people get it, though not always, but they certainly got it on election day in 2004.
Only Radical Eradication Will Do
If Democrats expect ever again for decades to gain back the White House and both houses of Congress, they’re going to have to toss their ideologues over the side and begin their own rediscovery of America.
Same for Republicans if they want to keep this ball rolling.
What both camps are going to find is that the true governing majority in this country is not wedded to any political ideology. The party that opens its heart, its mind and its door to those Americans who don’t always pop up in the same sub-public with them will become the party of this New America
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/11/10/85045.shtml
This is true of the situation in America today. Both sides
have their radicals, God knows the Republicans have plenty, guys like
Keyes and a whole lot of others. The Republican leadership is however
more moderate, it appeals to the everyday guy and gal, the worker and
farmer, urbanite and suburbanite. It may not appeal to the elitist snobs
and we all know they tried with all their might to crush this "redneck
revolution" but it is clear that America is not a liberal country. We
are not a centrist nation, we definitely swing to the right. America has
seen how Communism, Socialism and liberalism have caused problems
and poverty in other nations. The unemployment rate in Germany is
over 10% right now and the bottom looks like it is about to fall out.
THIS is the kind of system that Kerry wanted us to emulate???? Our
system will never be perfect, no matter who runs the show, but we
do the best we can, so if we see a system has a track record of 0%
success worldwide, why in heavens would we assume that by some
divine blessing we are destined to do better??????
The bottom line is this, the Democrats need to drop
the trash, drop the radicals and the idealists that are ruining their party.
They need to get rid of all this extra weight that has slowly dropped
them to the bottom of the heap in the American nation. They need
to get back to their roots. How can this happen? By listening to
the people, really listening, not some crapshoot poll by Zogby that
insists that 95% of all New York liberals or San-Frannies support gay
marriage, higher taxes, and a golden calf erected to the Sun God.
Go back and reach out to the everyday people, the ones you will never
see hobknobbing at a DC Environmentalist Gathering or a $5,000 a
plate fundraiser at the Ritz-Carlton. Reach out to the people who
you won't read about in the New Yorker or The Progressive. Set up
a system of values that is in tradition with the Democratic Party but
yet is consistent with the values that a majority of America still
believes in. Here's a clue, America is not ready for gay marriage yet.
Instead of going for it all, perhaps they should have tried civil unions,
only about 30% of Americans are opposed to that. Compromise and
America will respond accordingly. Don't go out and tear into the
people, calling the Bush voters "rednecks" or "white trash" or just
plain "ignorant." These are the same ignorant white trash rednecks
that will keep the Dems out of office for years until they get their act
together. This needs to happen soon, unless the Democrats want to
crash and burn, becoming another footnote in the history books, just
like the Whig Party.
:patriot:
AZScreamingEagle..........a once Democrat,
turned Republican, turned Army veteran, hoping and praying for
a better and more unified United States of America.