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PrezLeefun
12-29-2004, 08:35 AM
PREMARITAL SEX. IS IT WRONG. I THNK SO. WHAT DO YOU THINK?

Beowulf
12-29-2004, 09:35 AM
Hooo boy! Tough issue. Do I think it's wrong? I'll say no considering all the people that choose living together over marriage these days. Some people feel that you don't have to be married to love one another. I DO think that people need to be more careful in whom they sleep with and be more wary of the possible consequences. Is it love or lust? If they are using birth control, do they understand that it's not 100%?

Now I'm not going to speak for everyone here but I'll bet most here have had pre-marital sex as teens or young adults. I freely admit that I did. Am I ashamed? No. I do keep it in mind however so that when I have to talk to my son about it I'll have something to reflect on.

People are going to do it for as long as there are people. We just need to be smart about it, if you know what I mean.

PrezLeefun
12-29-2004, 10:09 AM
i happen to know that it is wrong for me. For a number of moral reasons. But just so it is clear i dont hold anything against those who have had pre-marital sex.

Some of my best friends are nymphomaniacs* themselves. :laugh:

THEBIRD
12-29-2004, 10:50 AM
Why are you yelling......my ears hurt.

uncommon1
12-29-2004, 11:01 AM
Here's the bottom line. There is nothing in society that says pre-marital sex is wrong. Medically, it is alright. Physically, it is alright. Emotionally, it may do some scarring. The bottom line is that there is only one reason not to have sex before marriage. That reason is this: because God says it is wrong. The rewards for not doing it and for remaining pure before God are immeasurable. It's something I never discovered until after getting married, and unless you are following Christ, it is a difficult concept to understand.

Goku
12-29-2004, 12:50 PM
Some of my best friends are nymphomaniacs* themselves. :laugh:
So can you introduce us?


[just kidding]

Goku
12-29-2004, 12:53 PM
You'll not find an explicit "Thou shall not commit premarital sex" in the Bible. But you will find the following:


"Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body. Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body." (1 Corinthians 6:18-20)


"Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ himself? Shall I then take the members of Christ and unite them with a prostitute? Never! Do you not know that he who unites himself with a prostitute is one with her in body? For it is said, "The two will become one flesh." But he who unites himself with the Lord is one with him in spirit." (1 Corinthians 6:15-17)

"But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God's holy people." (Ephesians 5:3)

Goku
12-29-2004, 12:58 PM
Not to mention:
"Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God." (1 Corinthians 6:9-10)

"We should not commit sexual immorality, as some of them did--and in one day twenty-three thousand of them died." (1 Corinthians 10:8)

"Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral." (Hebrews 13:4) "But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars-- their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death." (Revelation 21:8)

Wolfcounsel
12-29-2004, 01:18 PM
Oh. You are talking about pre-MARITAL sex, not pre-MARTIAL. I was going to say, yes, always try to have sex before a fight.

Goku
12-29-2004, 01:21 PM
Oh. You are talking about pre-MARITAL sex, not pre-MARTIAL. I was going to say, yes, always try to have sex before a fight.

ROFLMAO

PrezLeefun
12-29-2004, 01:24 PM
So can you introduce us?


[just kidding]lucky for them they are engaged to eachother.

PrezLeefun
12-29-2004, 01:26 PM
Oh. You are talking about pre-MARITAL sex, not pre-MARTIAL. I was going to say, yes, always try to have sex before a fight.oops spelling mistake sorry. but doesnt having sex before the fight use up your energy?

Wolfcounsel
12-29-2004, 01:36 PM
Sex before marriage is not right, especially with many of the pimplebutt baby factories having babies left and right with momma's boys as the fathers of the babies, running to social services to rip off some more money from the taxpayers, et cetera. Sex before marriage is a good way to identify yourself as nothing but a rabbit. Sex is wrong without marriage, but as long as the suddenly parents do not abandon the babies created, and there is no leeching off the taxpayer, I won't ask for anybody's head on a platter.

Wolfcounsel
12-29-2004, 01:40 PM
"but doesnt having sex before the fight use up your energy?" --PrezLeeFun

Not if you get a good sleep or nap after sex. My opinion, of course. It all depends on the person's constitution.<!-- / message -->

HomeschoolrsRUs
12-29-2004, 06:56 PM
PREMARITAL SEX. IS IT WRONG. I THNK SO. WHAT DO YOU THINK?Yes, pre-marital sex is wrong. God says it is wrong, that's all I need to know.

Aethariel
12-29-2004, 09:18 PM
No, it isn't wrong, in fact, I strongly encourage it to anyone who asks. :D

~Aethariel

PrezLeefun
12-30-2004, 03:36 PM
No, it isn't wrong, in fact, I strongly encourage it to anyone who asks. :D

~Aetharielwhy do you say that. and do you encourage sexual activity outside of marrige?

dajoga
12-30-2004, 07:22 PM
Yes, it's wrong. The 7th commandment covers all sexual activity outside of marrige. But that commandment is often twisted like other Scriptures.

I once worked with a guy (claimed to be a Christan) who was very strict about keeping the 10 commandments. So strict, in fact, that he would not even have sex with his wife on Sunday b/c of the command to "Keep the Sabbath day holy" (he wrongly considered Sunday the Christian Sabbath). Yet he boasted that, though he wouldn't touch a married woman b/c that was "adultery," any young single gal who wanted sex, he'd was more than willing to give it to her b/c that was fornication, not adultery. Nice guy, huh, ladies?

PrezLeefun
12-30-2004, 09:08 PM
sounds more like that dude was a dog to me.

Aethariel
01-01-2005, 01:52 PM
why do you say that. and do you encourage sexual activity outside of marrige?<!-- / message -->
If, when you say, "sexual activity outside of marriage," you mean being married and having sex with people other than your spouse, then no, I do not encourage that.

Premarital sex is most certainly encouraged, because it is simply naive to think that you can enter into a life-long commitment without being fully appraised of all aspects of a person's nature. It would make just as much sense as marrying someone before finding out what religion they were, or finding out that they would only buy pink furniture. Good sex is an important foundation of any relationship, and to enter into a commitment (one that ought not be broken without good reason) without having any idea what your partner wants or expects is simply foolish. If you want to find out how to cause divorces and martial strife, marry two virgins, one of which desires sex one a week, and the other only a couple times a year.

That said, I would discourage sex outside of a long-term and committed relationship, as then you are simply opening yourself up to unnecessary emotional trauma, not to mention pretty horrific diseases.

~Aethariel

PrezLeefun
01-01-2005, 05:18 PM
If, when you say, "sexual activity outside of marriage," you mean being married and having sex with people other than your spouse, then no, I do not encourage that.

Premarital sex is most certainly encouraged, because it is simply naive to think that you can enter into a life-long commitment without being fully appraised of all aspects of a person's nature. It would make just as much sense as marrying someone before finding out what religion they were, or finding out that they would only buy pink furniture. Good sex is an important foundation of any relationship, and to enter into a commitment (one that ought not be broken without good reason) without having any idea what your partner wants or expects is simply foolish. If you want to find out how to cause divorces and martial strife, marry two virgins, one of which desires sex one a week, and the other only a couple times a year.

That said, I would discourage sex outside of a long-term and committed relationship, as then you are simply opening yourself up to unnecessary emotional trauma, not to mention pretty horrific diseases.

~Aethariel
i have to disagree and be frank....what Bullsh*t! i know plently of couples who chose to wait and they understood the needs of their partener without having sex before marriage. And just for the record one of the highest causes of divorce is found with couples that have lived together before they married.
and most couples, who wait describe thier experiences as fullfuling not dissapointing.

dajoga
01-02-2005, 08:36 PM
If, when you say, "sexual activity outside of marriage," you mean being married and having sex with people other than your spouse, then no, I do not encourage that.
Why? What's the dif if one is married or not?

Premarital sex is most certainly encouraged, because it is simply naive to think that you can enter into a life-long commitment without being fully appraised of all aspects of a person's nature. It would make just as much sense as marrying someone before finding out what religion they were, or finding out that they would only buy pink furniture.
That's why good premarital counseling is needed--to help the couple to know more and more about each other.

Good sex is an important foundation of any relationship,
You have the cart before the horse--a commited relationship of marriage is "an important foundation" for good sex.

If you want to find out how to cause divorces and martial strife, marry two virgins, one of which desires sex one a week, and the other only a couple times a year.
Uh, you couldn't find that out by just asking your future spouse?

That said, I would discourage sex outside of a long-term and committed relationship, as then you are simply opening yourself up to unnecessary emotional trauma, not to mention pretty horrific diseases.

~Aethariel

What is "long term?" 3 weeks? 6 weeks? 6 months? And what is a "committed relationship?" A promise that I won't have sex with anyone else until I dump you? Also, how many "committed relationships" is too many?

Just remember, if you marry someone that you've had sex with or you know was sexually active with someone else, you're marrying someone who is more likely willing to have sex with someone other than you after you're married.

God's way is the best--abstinence b/4 marriage and fidelity in marriage.

HomeschoolrsRUs
01-02-2005, 09:38 PM
What is "long term?" 3 weeks? 6 weeks? 6 months? And what is a "committed relationship?" A promise that I won't have sex with anyone else until I dump you? Also, how many "committed relationships" is too many?

Just remember, if you marry someone that you've had sex with or you know was sexually active with someone else, you're marrying someone who is more likely willing to have sex with someone other than you after you're married.

God's way is the best--abstinence b/4 marriage and fidelity in marriage.:claps: Couldn't have said it better myself!

PrezLeefun
01-03-2005, 01:50 PM
:claps: Couldn't have said it better myself!
same here

ConservativeYouthMovement
01-04-2005, 01:54 PM
it is stupid to have any type of sex before marriage but i am guilty as well

Faithful_Servant
01-04-2005, 03:01 PM
If, when you say, "sexual activity outside of marriage," you mean being married and having sex with people other than your spouse, then no, I do not encourage that.

Premarital sex is most certainly encouraged, because it is simply naive to think that you can enter into a life-long commitment without being fully appraised of all aspects of a person's nature. It would make just as much sense as marrying someone before finding out what religion they were, or finding out that they would only buy pink furniture. Good sex is an important foundation of any relationship, and to enter into a commitment (one that ought not be broken without good reason) without having any idea what your partner wants or expects is simply foolish. If you want to find out how to cause divorces and martial strife, marry two virgins, one of which desires sex one a week, and the other only a couple times a year.

That said, I would discourage sex outside of a long-term and committed relationship, as then you are simply opening yourself up to unnecessary emotional trauma, not to mention pretty horrific diseases.

~AetharielDo you know what the single biggest problem in marriage is? Poor communication. If you can't communicate about these types of issues prior to getting married, you shouldn't be getting married.

Did you know that the divorce rates for people who had sex before marriage is substantially higher than for those who waited.

Here's another little factoid for you - sex is better inside the marriage relationship than it is outside of it. More trust, more commitment and a more intimate knowledge of each other just makes sex better. Marriage brings these three pieces together in a way that simply doesn't happen outside of marriage.

Bottom line - Sex is intended for the marriage bed and no where else (well maybe the kitchen or laundry room :D ). I can tell you from personal experience that sex outside of marriage is a bad choice.

Look up the divorce rates for people who have had sex before marriage as compared to those who waited.

PrezLeefun
01-04-2005, 03:42 PM
Sex before marriage is wrong...too many risks...God created boundaries to protect us, not keep us from things we like.

Jesse_Lackman
01-05-2005, 02:05 AM
For a so called "christian" this should be a simple matter, what do the words "fornication" and "adultry" mean?

PrezLeefun
01-05-2005, 05:30 AM
For a so called "christian" this should be a simple matter, what do the words "fornication" and "adultry" mean?To whom are you addressing the question?

Wolfcounsel
01-05-2005, 06:13 AM
There is no difference between fornication and adultery. Both mean sexual intercourse between two people not married to each other.

Faithful_Servant
01-05-2005, 09:40 AM
There is no difference between fornication and adultery. Both mean sexual intercourse between two people not married to each other.One small difference, wolf. Adultery means having sex with a married person that you are not married to, fornication means having sex with anyone you are not married to. So you can fornicate without committing adultery, but all adultery is fornication.

Wolfcounsel
01-05-2005, 09:44 AM
"So you can fornicate without committing adultery, but all adultery is fornication." --Faithful_Servant

No I can't. I'm married.:laugh: <!-- / message --><!-- sig -->

Jesse_Lackman
01-05-2005, 02:39 PM
To whom are you addressing the question?
To any christian who wants who wants to be honest in answering this question;

"PREMARITAL SEX. IS IT WRONG. I THNK SO. WHAT DO YOU THINK?"

uncommon1
01-05-2005, 03:45 PM
I know that pre-marital sex is Biblically wrong, but judging from the number of times people have sex after they get married, it would almost seem to me that it is necessary to do it before marriage, since the frequency seems to drastically decrease after marriage. :laugh:

Jesse_Lackman
01-05-2005, 03:48 PM
Well in my case the exact opposite is true, but them I'm a prude, just ask the old timers around here.

Jesse_Lackman
01-05-2005, 03:48 PM
if they're still around..

SunnyBrook
01-05-2005, 11:38 PM
...judging from the number of times people have sex after they get married, it would almost seem to me that it is necessary to do it before marriage, since the frequency seems to drastically decrease after marriage. :laugh:
Hogwash!

Married people have better and more frequent sex than unmarried people.

I've been in many marriage counseling situations. Usually, if the problem issue is sexual in nature, one or both of the partners WERE sexually active before they got married. Instead of keeping people from having problems, pre-marital sex creates problems.

DH and I are in our 30s. Neither one of us have ever had sex with anyone else, nor desired to. Consequently, the level of intimacy and trust that has developed over 15+ years of marriage has sustained a rich and active sex life that has always been terrific and keeps getting better with time.

My friends from high school who became sexually active have not fared as well. Some have divorced, while others have miserably tedious sex lives.

I'm not saying that the sex act isn't enjoyable outside of marriage. According to the Bible, "...all sin is pleasurable for a season." Long term effects of pre-marital and extra-marital sex, however, are devastating, especially to future relationships.

PrezLeefun
01-09-2005, 04:04 PM
Sunny i congradulate you on having a good married life...and thank for efffectivly defending sex within marriage.