Interracial Relationships...Good or Bad?

[PrezLeefun]

On a post in a different site the question amongst teens was brought up---- Would your parent have a problem letting you date someone of the same sex or outside of your race?

I want to take the opportunity to focus on race and religion.
I happen to be Russian Jew and African American.
(I practice Messianic Judiaism, a form of Christianity)
So no matter what I do any relationship I enter will be interracial because I am bi-racial.

What are the pros and cons?
Would let your kids go outside the "ethnic box"?

[Goku]

As long as the man dating my daughter is a Christian, I don't care what variety God made him in. Christ sees no distinctions whatsoever between people except one: saved and unsaved.

[Bluemoon_Rising]

Uh . . . yes . . . maybe . . . I don't know. Depends on the time of day, the color of the sky or that of my mood. I'm in no real hurry.

Now SpongeBob Squarepants, there's an interesting fellow. Yellow, ya know. Talks with an annoyingly high-pitched, nasal lisp. Daft as hell. And Patrick, all pink and dumb as beach sand. What's up with that guy?

I had a brush with a Hindu scribe once. Old guy, tanned and wrinkled . . . walked around half naked, though he spent most of his time sitting here and there in the shape of a pretzel. I remember that he played with colored sand a lot. He made intricate patterns with it. Beautiful works really, but they evolved from hours and hours of mind-numbingly tedious work. Later, he’d destroy it all--tossed 'em into the winds or the sea. Talked about the endless cycles of life. After a while, I just wanted to bitch slap him or maybe kick him in the groin. I had to get away from that guy before I lost my religion and did some real violence to his bald pate.

I had a dog named Plug once--a big, black, neurotic Labrador. But he ran away. . . .

I saw him about a year latter. He was runnin’ with a rough crowd, a pack of mongrels, livin’ on the streets, eatin’ from dumpsters . . . no doubt knockin’ up every stray bitch in the neighborhood.

He didn’t recognize me, but I knew him by the freakish, single white patch of hair on the back of his neck. He needed a bath. His teeth were yellow. Ya, he was bad company all right, a real street thug, a lean silhouette with an ugly, hand-bitin’ look in his eyes--a low, menacing growl never far away from his lips.

Ethnic boxes? Never heard 'em.

[PrezLeefun]

wow bluemoon i wasnt aware the topic had anything to do with dogs or colored sand.:offtopic:

[Wolfcounsel]

As long as there are no assholoids in my family, I don't care who my kids and grandkids marry.

[DesertFox]

My parents had a real problem with anybody going outside his own race. I did the same, following in their footsteps, until I went Army and met so many good folks of just about every color and ethnic stripe imaginable that after awhile it just seemed quaint when somebody referred to the Italian guy as a wop or the black dude as a n i g g e r or me as a honky or redneck or hick or sumb i t c h. None of us gave a s h i t. Our kids ran in and out of each others' homes and whatever mom was handy kissed whatever wound was handy and made it better.

My eldest daughter's first serious boyfriend was real black. Second was real A-rab. Today, pert near by accident, she's married to white bread. She's Christian, her kids are Christian and their friends are Christian. I don't know if anybody knows who's what color, but I do know that nobody gives much of a hoot. They live in the heart of redneck country, btw, in Dallas, America. But it was the same when they lived in Pensacola, America, and it's the same here in Phoenix, America.

America's actually getting boring with no real racial strife, ethnic hatreds or religious conflict, and some people have to make up such stuff so they can make a living, poor bastids. I been ponderin' a move to Sri Lanka where they really know how to hate seein' as how I've just about forget how -- at least, on that basis.

Pass the butter, please.

[PrezLeefun]

interesting thoughts...thanx desert fox...great reponse...

i guess i am lucky to have born in the family i am in i happen to be biracial, but with in-laws and what not, my family has someone from nearly every part of the world. it is so great to be in the knid of envoirment where i can bring home almost anyone.

[TopDown]

On a post in a different site the question amongst teens was brought up---- Would your parent have a problem letting you date someone of the same sex or outside of your race?

I want to take the opportunity to focus on race and religion.
I happen to be Russian Jew and African American.
(I practice Messianic Judiaism, a form of Christianity)
So no matter what I do any relationship I enter will be interracial because I am bi-racial.

What are the pros and cons?
Would let your kids go outside the "ethnic box"?
Because you wrote this, PrezLeefun, and because you admit you are bi-racial...I wonder if you would not tell young people today that relationships within their own race are difficult enough. Adding race, creed or color to the mix might be more than they can take and still have a healthy relationship.

The need to have a mate from another race seems to be a "look at me" thing. Which in many places gets exactly that reaction. I would advise against mixed relationships if the objective is long term. However, I do not have kids nor grand kids and therefore I am free from conflict!

[Wolfcounsel]

"I would advise against mixed relationships if the objective is long term." --TopDown


Thank you, TD. This American of Mexican descent will now advise his Filipina wife of 28 years on that.

[DesertFox]

40 years ago I'da said just what TopDown said. And I wouldn't be a bit surprised if he's right in most cases today because unserious people don't normally make good marriages until they've worked thru their prolonged adolescence, and America is chockful of unserious, adolescent 30- and 40- and 50-year-olds who get away with it because of the country they were born in.



I knew there was something about that counseling wolf

[PrezLeefun]

I personally believe that confilct only arises if there is ignorance. Now i have no chioce. It would be easy to date black guys it is more accpetable, but i dont date... now. and out of all the guys i have liked none of them were black.

Topdown how on God's green earth according to your theory am i gonna have a good healthy relationship. What does that say for the interracial couples in my family...some who have been married going on forty years.

[TopDown]

"What are the pros and cons?
Would let your kids go outside the "ethnic box"?
Because you wrote this, PrezLeefun, and because you admit you are bi-racial...I wonder if you would not tell young people today that relationships within their own race are difficult enough. Adding race, creed or color to the mix might be more than they can take and still have a healthy relationship.

The need to have a mate from another race seems to be a "look at me" thing. Which in many places gets exactly that reaction. I would advise against mixed relationships if the objective is long term. However, I do not have kids nor grand kids and therefore I am free from conflict!"

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The question was would one advise another to create an inter-racial relationship. I did not, nor would I, judge an existing one.<!-- / message -->

[TopDown]

"Topdown how on God's green earth according to your theory am i gonna have a good healthy relationship. What does that say for the interracial couples in my family...some who have been married going on forty years."
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If you are now asking how you can avoid an inter-racial relationship...you know the answer to that. However, if you are most comfortable with persons who are not "of-color" then that should be your choice. I must admit, I see very few women of-color who choose men who are not. The men who are dark skinned seem to want a woman who is not.<!-- / message -->

[TopDown]

"I would advise against mixed relationships if the objective is long term." --TopDown


Thank you, TD. This American of Mexican descent will now advise his Filipina wife of 28 years on that.
You have one of the few successful inter-racial relationships...congratulations. I was only replying to the question of advising a youngster about choosing a mate from another race. I think I was clear in my reply.

[Wolfcounsel]

"You have one of the few successful inter-racial relationships...congratulations. I was only replying to the question of advising a youngster about choosing a mate from another race. I think I was clear in my reply." --TopDown


Thanks. I would still advise any person to choose a person belonging to the human race, and not one who has his or her head stuck up relatives' butts, culture's butt, or racial butt.:cool:

[PrezLeefun]

"Topdown how on God's green earth according to your theory am i gonna have a good healthy relationship. What does that say for the interracial couples in my family...some who have been married going on forty years."
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If you are now asking how you can avoid an inter-racial relationship...you know the answer to that. However, if you are most comfortable with persons who are not "of-color" then that should be your choice. I must admit, I see very few women of-color who choose men who are not. The men who are dark skinned seem to want a woman who is not.<!-- / message -->I dont know where on earth you got that little theory from, but it is my personal opinion that if more people married and had children outside their racial indentity, it would make things simpler. If race were not an issue it would be one less thing to worry about.

after all the only real race is the human race.

ps. just for the record I am hardly a youngster, and i wanted your opinion not your advice.

[For_My_Canada]

As long as the man dating my daughter is a Christian, I don't care what variety God made him in. Christ sees no distinctions whatsoever between people except one: saved and unsaved.But hopefully that even though you would care that your daughter would be dating a non-Christian man, that you will not forbade her from dating one.
Anyways, to the question at hand. Inter-racial dating/marriage, whatever, as long as the woman is nice, smart, and hopefully beautiful, lol.

[SunnyBrook]

While I certainly don't think there is anything morally wrong with interracial marriages, and I have friends with very successful ones, I would nonetheless advise people to consider this issue carefully. I would similarly advise people of very different social classes, religions, etc. to proceed with caution. Cultural/ethnic differences can sometimes be extremely difficult to overcome. This is, however, a sweeping generalization that may or may not apply in individual cases. I've seen many cases where people didn't fully explore the potential pitfalls of interracial marriage before embarking on the good ship Matrimony.

For example, a Mexican male and an American female may have a more difficult time than a Mexican female and an American male. Why? Because Mexican men in general tend to have more "machismo," something which American women tend to resent.

[SunnyBrook]

But hopefully that even though you would care that your daughter would be dating a non-Christian man, that you will not forbade her from dating one...
I absolutely WOULD forbid my children to date non-Christians, as long as they are still juveniles under my guardianship. Once they're adults, they can make that choice for themselves, and I'll try to be accepting and loving towards whomever they bring home.

NOTE TO THOSE IN RIO LINDA: Dating isn't a right for teenagers; it is an option that may or may not be allowed by parents.

[Wolfcounsel]

"For example, a Mexican male and an American female may have a more difficult time than a Mexican female and an American male. Why? Because Mexican men in general tend to have more "machismo," something which American women tend to resent." --SunnyBrook


This "machismo" is nothing more than "Little Man Syndrome", and I'm being nice, because this board is seen by sensitive people sometimes. So I sustituted the word "Man" for fhe actual one that starts with a "P", or a "D". I believe many male dumbasses of the moslem cult suffer from it also.

[Peachdiane]

What are the pros and cons?
Would let your kids go outside the "ethnic box"?

My son is 8 but because he's deaf I wondered if he'd have difficulty getting a date when he's older. One day I couldn't find him and started to panic a little bit. After searching all over, I finally found a group of girls huddled and went over to see what was up. Sure enough, he was in the middle of the girls, charming and having wrapped them around his finger. :crazy:

Not the same thing, I know but I always thought mutual interests/love was color blind. Would I go outside the ethnic boxes? You bet (and I always have). My best friend in 8th grade was black. We never became more than just friends but on one hot day we compared tans and I'd completely forgotten his skin color (doh!)

I'd let my sons date anyone they were interested in. I'd pray she wasn't a lib though. :rotflmbo:

[jag]

The question was would one advise another to create an inter-racial relationship. I did not, nor would I, judge an existing one.<!-- / message -->
The need to have a mate from another race seems to be a "look at me" thing. http://freeconservatives.com/smilies/smilies3/kopfpatsch.gifD'oh

[Peachdiane]

Anyways, to the question at hand. Inter-racial dating/marriage, whatever, as long as the woman is nice, smart, and hopefully beautiful, lol.

LOL! Like this woman here? Aishwarya Rai was voted the most beautiful woman in the world. I can't see any man turning her down even if she is ethnic.

http://www.aishwaryarai.com/main/aishpicture.gif

[ConservativeYouthMovement]

I dont understand why you have a problem with non christians dating your daughter, if that is your daughters choice than why would you forbid her? If you love somebody you have to let them go free.....

I am not really a christian, or a member of any organized religion (i am a deists.) My girlfriend is a christian and her family is umm.... different (that is an understatement.)

Although, I refuse to marry her until we work out our differences, and have been together a long time.

[Wolfcounsel]

"I can't see any man turning her down even if she is ethnic." --Peachdiane


All people are ethnic, Peach.

[PrezLeefun]

LOL! Like this woman here? Aishwarya Rai was voted the most beautiful woman in the world. I can't see any man turning her down even if she is ethnic.

http://www.aishwaryarai.com/main/aishpicture.gifeveryone has ethnic backround did you mean "of color" cuz if you did, dont worry its not bad.

[Faithful_Servant]

ps. just for the record I am hardly a youngster, and i wanted your opinion not your advice.
FYI -

I am 17, still young, and still in school, so i can tell you with a clear concience that if you havent had the talk yet they already have some warped idea of what sex is and you might want to educate them on the birds and the bees right now

From the thread on sex education...

Somehow, I'm starting to think that PLF isn't being honest with us.:question:

[PrezLeefun]

FYI -

From the thread on sex education...

Somehow, I'm starting to think that PLF isn't being honest with us.:question:Last i checked youngster isnt used for those pass age four

[Faithful_Servant]

"Youngster" would be a relative term referring to a young person who is lacking in maturity and experience. Both of which you qualify for.

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

While I certainly don't think there is anything morally wrong with interracial marriages, and I have friends with very successful ones, I would nonetheless advise people to consider this issue carefully. I would similarly advise people of very different social classes, religions, etc. to proceed with caution. Cultural/ethnic differences can sometimes be extremely difficult to overcome. This is, however, a sweeping generalization that may or may not apply in individual cases. I've seen many cases where people didn't fully explore the potential pitfalls of interracial marriage before embarking on the good ship Matrimony.:claps:

I have pretty much avoided posting here until I could fully think through and pray about my answer. The one thing that kept coming to my mind over, and over, and over:

2 Corinthians 6:14 "Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?"

I am personally acquainted with two bi-racial couples, both of whom I respect and value their friendship. We have spoken about the difficulties stemming from their choice(s), and they have shared many accounts of particular troubles and obstacles arising because of their race. Neither of which they said they anticipated when they first fell in love. Their children have also had difficulties -- there are people who will judge not the character of the soul but the color of the skin, and no matter how hard one tries, it's practically impossible to avoid them (forever).

There are greater questions than whether they are simply "good or bad." Interracial relationships can be both -- the good, God ordained marriage and if they enter that holy estate they will be blessed for their obedience in marriage / the bad, they will have struggles that "regular" (for lack of better term, nothing derogatory) couples will have, and their struggles will effect more than just themselves, most specifically if they have children.

This is in NO WAY inferring that interracial relationships are "bad." They are just frought with a special degree of trials and tribulations. Marriage is work, and is frought with it's own difficulties without throwing in other issues.

I will not condemn those in interracial relationships, if those relationships are grounded and have a good foundation. If they are about "look at me," or rebellion, then it doesn't matter what race/color they are, the marriage is wrong and doomed from the start.


I absolutely WOULD forbid my children to date non-Christians, as long as they are still juveniles under my guardianship. Once they're adults, they can make that choice for themselves, and I'll try to be accepting and loving towards whomever they bring home.Well said Sunny! I would add, some unequally yoked marriages DO end up with both parties going to the same place, but that is not often the case. When I married Bubba, I "thought" I was a Christian and that he was not. We BOTH found out we were lost, and the Lord found us both (Praise You Jesus!), and I am a firm believer it was Him who brought us together, not fate or dumb luck. I know of several marriages of Christians to non-Christians, and many have ended in divorce with children caught in the middle. I would not want this for my children, and would do all in my power to prevent it from happening (including fervent prayer, which has been occurring since the moment we found out we were pregnant -- praying for both, our children and their future mates).

NOTE TO THOSE IN RIO LINDA: Dating isn't a right for teenagers; it is an option that may or may not be allowed by parents.ABSOTIVELY & POSITULUTELY! That is why our family is committed to Courtship and NOT dating. We have been preparing our children, since they were born, for this decision.

[PrezLeefun]

"Youngster" would be a relative term referring to a young person who is lacking in maturity and experience. Both of which you qualify for.
although i understand your opinion, you would need to know me personally to make that assumption. and my posts over the internet hardly qualify as you getting to know me.

[Republican_Legion]

interesting thoughts...thanx desert fox...great reponse...

i guess i am lucky to have born in the family i am in i happen to be biracial, but with in-laws and what not, my family has someone from nearly every part of the world. it is so great to be in the knid of envoirment where i can bring home almost anyone.

my dad is german american , my mom is mexican .
1 of my dads sisters married an israeli .
another one of my dads sisters married a somalian .
my moms older brother married a irish american .
my family never had problems with interacial marriages , except for my great-grandpa who disagreed a bit .

[PrezLeefun]

GHL youve beat me! thats alot of backround!

[Republican_Legion]

GHL youve beat me! thats alot of backround!

blonde chics tend to like me more then brunettes , they assume i am italian or french etc , and all the sudden when i tell them i am half mexican they have an interest in mexican culture lol .

[PrezLeefun]

wow w-o-w wow

[Republican_Legion]

wow w-o-w wow

in school my friends always said mexican jokes , until i told them my background . and i then said to them : keep the jokes coming i dont care really but we dont eat beans that much lol

[PrezLeefun]

cute.

[Republican_Legion]

being half white like me , have u ever had similar experiences where someone treated u different after u told them ur background ?

[PrezLeefun]

yes all the time..people have no clue im jewish till i tell them so. I cant tell you how many times ive heard the cheap Jew thing.

[Republican_Legion]

there has been times where the mexican jokes , provoked me to get in a fight , i won , and the other guy wanted to keep fighting so i said "the alamo is over , i win"

[PrezLeefun]

ahh your just showin' off now:cool:

[Curtman]

I guess my problem is with the topic. This is America isn't it? Two consenting adults want to get down it isn't any of my business what color they are. Unless of course they are homo-zoids or incestualites.