Tell me about your states Liquor laws

[Large_Al]

<FONT face="Times New Roman"><FONT size=3><FONT color=#000000>I content <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com /><st1:State>Pa.</st1:State> Has the dumbest Liquor laws in the world.</FONT></FONT></FONT></P><P style=
1. You can get wine and hard Liquor only in state run liquor stores.

2. You can only buy beer in beer distributors that are private owned.
In the beer distributors you can only buy beer buy the Case or Keg.

3. If you want to buy a six pack of beer you can get one at a Bar if they are licensed
to sell six packs.

4. All restaurants that want to sell alcohol must apply for a liquor license.
They are very expensive over 100k and the state has limited licenses.

5. We do have restaurants that aren’t licensed for sales but they are licensed to BYOB. These places sometimes charge you a corking fee.

6. You can’t buy any alcohol in Grocery or convenient stores. But I hear the state want’s to see if it is feasible to sell it in Grocery stores. They wouldn’t let the stores sell it the stores would have to lease room to the state so they could sell it.

7. You can have a restaurant that is a BYOB that will give you alcohol for free.
Like after dinner drinks and such.. but they can’t charge.

8. I live on the Pa ,Delaware Boarder and in <st1:State><ST1:place>Delaware</ST1:place></st1:State> they have huge Liquor stores that sell Booze at unbelievable discount. Like a fifth of Jack is $5 cheaper than <st1:State>Pa.</st1:State>
It is Illegal to purchase booze and transport it to <st1:State>Pa.</st1:State> If you are caught it will be confiscated and you will end up paying a hefty fine.

9. You are not allowed to have certain types of liquor or wine in this state because the state doesn’t sell it. So for me to want a special Australian wine not sold in <st1:State>Pa.</st1:State> You have to get the state to order it in if they don’t deal with the distributor your SOL.


This is why if you really want something SNAFUed let the Government get involved.


What are your liquor laws like??

[washoeconservative]

I live in Nevada, 24 hour anything you can guzzle.

[Warlady]

In Texas we don't have state owned liquor stores. You can buy mixed drinks in restaurants and bars if they are located in wet counties. Most dry counties are up in N Texas. In wet counties there are liquor stores everywhere and you can buy beer and wine in grocery stores and convenience stores. Dry counties are thanks to Baptists. All they do is hurt their county with low tax revenues because people just drive to the wet counties. Take Granbury, Texas for instance. Half the town is wet and the other half is dry so you just have to drive across the highway. I think it's unfair to the businesses on the dry side.

[TopDown]

In Texas we don't have state owned liquor stores. You can buy mixed drinks in restaurants and bars if they are located in wet counties. Most dry counties are up in N Texas. In wet counties there are liquor stores everywhere and you can buy beer and wine in grocery stores and convenience stores. Dry counties are thanks to Baptists. All they do is hurt their county with low tax revenues because people just drive to the wet counties. Take Granbury, Texas for instance. Half the town is wet and the other half is dry so you just have to drive across the highway. I think it's unfair to the businesses on the dry side.It is not as bad as it was years ago when I came to Texas from CA. I never thought I would have to "tote" a bottle, in a brown paper sack, into a 4 star eatery if I wanted an adult beverage with my meal! Yes there are still some areas which have "private club" only laws and you gotta "tote" your bottle!

However, those states which own the liquor stores are the very worst for prices. WA for one is outta sight! We here in the Great State of Texas still believe in entrepreneurism.

[Longhorn_Platinum]

Dry counties are thanks to Baptists.
:unsmile: Not necessarily. In some places, it's because of the Churches of Christ. I heard a story in college, I dunno if it's true or not, but the story goes that there's a small, incorporated town within Abilene city limits called "Impact". For years, Impact was wet, while Abilene was dry. Abilene held repeated city referenda to become wet, but was consistently opposed by local Churches of Christ. It was later learned that the churches were getting hefty donations for their campaign from the liquor store owners in Impact.

:unsmile: It wouldn't surprise me if a lot of county line liquor store owners make similar contributions to help keep the neighboring counties dry.

:unsmile: Anyway, Texas laws are peculiar. A particular areä can be wet or dry, depending on local laws. An entire county can be wet, or just a city, or even just a precinct. Alcohol cannot be purchased "to go" from 12:00 midnight to 7:00 AM, Monday thru Saturday, & 1:00 AM thru 12:00 noon on Sundays. (For all you Palm Beach demonicrats, that means you have to get it by midnight, but with an extra hour on Saturday night.)

:moo: I used to work in a convenience store in Austin, & when folks would come in at about ten minutes past midnight, & ask despairingly where was the nearest place they could still buy beer, I'd tell them, "Starks, Louisiana. Oh, but by the time you get there & back, it'll be legal to sell it here."

:unsmile: It was always standard procedure to chain the beer cooler doors after hours, to prevent ugly scenes. But then, there were the airheads who'd play this asinine game of seeing if they could stretch the chains, & squeeze a 6-pack through the crack, thinking that if they could get it out, I'd have to sell it to them. I got really good at stretching the chains nice & tight.

:unsmile: I also worked at a Circle K in Nacogdoches, & one Friday night at 11:57, just as I was about to put the chains on the beer cooler doors, about 20 people all came in at once to buy beer. I punched the register buttons as fast as I could, but only the first three left satisfied. There were some awfully ugly attitudes, when I told the rest of them they could just set it on the floor, & I'd put it up for them. At the stroke of midnight, I could face heavy fines for selling it, even if they were already in line.

:unsmile: On another occasion, some jerk came in after hours, & demanded to buy beer. He said if I didn't sell it to him, he'd buy it somewhere else, & come back to wave it in my face. I told him to go for it, then watched him drive down the hill to our competitor. I got on the phone to warn the girl there that he was on his way & what he wanted. I'll be darned, the bitch sold it to him, & he was just as smug as could be when he returned.

:moo: No problem. From that time on, I could always satisfy the after-hours jerks by leading them to my window, & pointing to that store down the hill.

:moo: Finally, there's the story, probably apocryphal, of the small, mostly Baptist town, where a man decided to build the town's first liquor store. Local churches began praying that God would somehow thwart the man's efforts, & sure enough, just before construction was completed, the store was struck by lightning, & burned to the ground. The liquor store owner sued the churches, claiming the lightning was all their fault, but the churches argued that they could hardly be blamed for a lightning bolt. The judge in the case noted how ironic it was that the liquor store owner had more faith in the power of prayer than the Baptists did.

[Longhorn_Platinum]

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[Melz]

We can purchase beer type things anywhere in OH, gas stations, drive thrus (we laugh at the "don't drink and drive, but you can drive thru to buy the drink" thing LOL)..most places have "state stores" for hard liquor (even grocery stores) yet that is restricted on Sundays. Wonder why Sunday is so important to the government in restricting it? why is alcohol worse on Sunday? Would that be a Christian thing? brings up the whole "separation of church and state" thing eh?

[Rink]

Large Al Do I KNOW just how crazy PA is when it comes to liquor and beer, believe me i visited that crazy state, that and Ohio.

In Ohio, you can be a passenger, drink your beer, but DON'T get out of the car holding the beer can or bottle!!

Crazy over-burdened laws makes enjoying life hard to do.

Glad i am that I live in the west where we still have some measure of freedom and not as intrusive laws yet on the books like PA has.

Sorry I just think PA is nuts in regards to alcohol.

Been there dont ever wanna live there.

Too dry a state in my opinion and too controlling.

(BTW I live in Washington state.)

[PrezLeefun]

the dinking laws?----if you can get some, drink it. :D

[BEST45CAL]

In CALIFORNIA:

Alcohol may be sold from 6 a.m. to 2 a.m. of the following day. In other words, it is unlawful to sell alcoholic beverages either by the drink or by the package, between the hours of 2 a.m. and 6 a.m. of the same day.
It is also unlawful for any person to knowingly purchase any alcoholic beverages between the hours of 2:00 a.m. and 6:00 a.m.

Adults who bring alcoholic beverages into California for personal or household use do not need an alcoholic beverage license; however, some restrictions do apply.

Liquor is WIDELY available at grocery stores, drug stores, and pretty much everywhere else.

In a bona fide public eating place, minors between 18 and 21 years of age may serve alcoholic beverages in an area primarily designed and used for the sale and service of food for consumption on the premises as an incidental part of their overall duties.

The CA Department of Alcohol Beverage Control issues new liquor licenses based on population growth year-over-year, per county.



Outlets that sell both alcoholic beverages and gasoline must abide by these conditions:

No beer or wine shall be displayed within five feet of the cash register or the front door unless it is in a permanently affixed cooler as of January 1, 1988.
No advertisement of alcoholic beverages shall be displayed at motor fuel islands.
No display or sale of beer or wine shall be made from a drive-in window.
No display or sale of beer or wine shall be made from an ice tub.
No beer or wine advertising shall be located on motor fuel islands and no self-illuminated advertising for beer or wine shall be located on buildings or windows.
Employees on duty between the hours of 10 p.m. and 2 a.m. who sell beer or wine shall be at least 21 years of age.

[Rink]

Rink, not sure what part of Pa you were in. I was in lancaster and surrounding area's and Gettysburg. Hot yes but really i didn't find it a whole lot hotter than our hottest days here. But then again it was sept. I don't know much about how controlling they are but i liked it back there very much. Seemed like a slower pace of life in general. I found the buildings to be very neat to look at. Felt like i was back in time. Especially when the Amish were out and about in their buggies.

I don't drink much so to go to a state liquor store as they have for what i drink is not much of a biggie. Since you have to go to one here as well. As for beer or wine i suppose if i drank either of those as my choice of drink it might be a bit frustrating to not be able to go to the nearest store to buy it.
When I visited PA, it was in the middle of July (July 4th to be exact) and it wasnt so much the heat but the humidity that was terribly taxing.

I just think PA is really weird when it comes to Liquor laws.

Ohio in my book runs a second.

I'll stay in the Pacific NW boonies thank yew :D

[Bob_Arctor]

When I visited PA, it was in the middle of July (July 4th to be exact) and it wasnt so much the heat but the humidity that was terribly taxing.
I just think PA is really weird when it comes to Liquor laws. You've hit the nail on the head; the humidity is oppressive. You can go a week where it's above 90 every day both in temp and humidity. An air conditioner is almost required to get any sleep those nights. I lived a year in Colorado; I'd take 100 degrees there in the dry air versus 85 or so here with the humidity.

The liquor laws are crazy as well - so pointlessly restrictive. For liquor/wine stores you have bad hours, poor selection, high prices, not many locations. Beer stores ("distributors") are also inconvenient because you are forced to buy an entire case at minimum. You really don't have the normal option of getting a single or a six pack if you want to try something new. A few months ago the state "Liquor Control Board" ran some radio ads crowing about their "progressive" policy changes - 10% of state liquor stores were going to start being open for several hours on Sunday! You've never heard an organization so cocky over its move into the 1900s! When this control board was holding hearings over the matter of Sunday sales a year or two ago they had to deal with people claiming that allowing Sunday sales would increase alcohol sales somehow, which would breed alcoholism...allowing less than full cases to be sold would also increase alcoholism in the minds of these people. I suppose buying a six pack on Sunday afternoon is far more dangerous than buying a few cases on Monday morning!

And at all times NJ is just a short trip (for me - I live near the Philly airport) across the bridges...it's very tempting. Laws are a little more modern there.

Sorry to go on at length - I've been wanting to complain about this for some time!
I'll stay in the Pacific NW boonies thank yew :D As a native Oregonian, I can't wait to get back! :D

[BEST45CAL]

Did I mention that I don't drink? LOL:wave:

[Melz]

And on an add-on for weird Ohio laws, when we get to Daylight Savings Time in April, the clubs stop serving beer and all liquor an hour early..because normally they would stop selling at 2 AM..but at that time of the year on the exact date the time is to switch over, that is when the clocks switch forward, exactly 2 AM. So they either have to have additional "after hours" licenses just for that one day a year (when 2 AM jumps to 3 AM immediately) or close down at 1 AM. so many angry drunk folks in April ! LOL...

[Large_Al]

Bob that's why I started the thread I just got pissed having to go to Delaware to get good prices and selections on wine.

I know where your coming form Rink it can get hot here.

[Bakellende]

I live in the Netherlands and it's legal to smoke weed and grass. And abortion of babies (do I say that right? My English isn't that good :oops: ) is also legal.