Imagine

[someone036]

Imagine

Imagine there's no heaven,
It's easy if you try,
No hell below us,
Above us only sky,
Imagine all the people
living for today...

Imagine there's no countries,
It isnt hard to do,
Nothing to kill or die for,
No religion too,
Imagine all the people
living life in peace...

Imagine no possesions,
I wonder if you can,
No need for greed or hunger,
A brotherhood of man,
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world...

You may say Im a dreamer,
but Im not the only one,
I hope some day you'll join us,
And the world will live as one.

[Faithful_Servant]

Awww... That's so touching. It must be nice to live in Oz where the Scarecrow rules and the biggest threat is from the Munchkins getting drunk. But the rest of us live in the real world. A world where there are people who will not live in peace with others. So imagine a world where people like you are put into homes for the terminally out of touch.

[PrezLeefun]

Awwwwwwwwwww dont pick on her FS. Even though you are right. Someone there is a heaven and a hell. There is good and evil. If you didn't have one how would you know which is which?

[someone036]

Awwwwwwwwwww dont pick on her FS. Even though you are right. Someone there is a heaven and a hell. There is good and evil. If you didn't have one how would you know which is which?

Uuuuggh (that was supposed to be a moaning type of sound lol) no one can know for sure whether there is a heaven and hell or not. Even my mom (a Christian republican) said it's dangerous for people to believe things that strongly.

[PrezLeefun]

Uuuuggh (that was supposed to be a moaning type of sound lol) no one can know for sure whether there is a heaven and hell or not. Even my mom (a Christian republican) said it's dangerous for people to believe things that strongly.

Honey it is good to have strong beleifs; or else you'll be weak to any BS someone hands to you.

[Beowulf]

In John Lennon's time that might work but not nowadays, not since Jimmy Carter signed the Camp David Accords. If only it were as simple as what John Lennon wrote about.

[Faithful_Servant]

Awwwwwwwwwww dont pick on her FS. Even though you are right. Someone there is a heaven and a hell. There is good and evil. If you didn't have one how would you know which is which?

I know that I should be nicer to her, but it's kind of like watching "Jackass", sometimes you just can't help but laugh at how clueless some people are.

[PrezLeefun]

I know that I should be nicer to her, but it's kind of like watching "Jackass", sometimes you just can't help but laugh at how clueless some people are.

rotflmao because I am stunned You would even bother to watch "Jackass"!:D

[someone036]

Honey it is good to have strong beleifs; or else you'll be weak to any BS someone hands to you.

I don't really believe anything. For example, I don't believe that the polls were rigged, but I don't not believe it either. I don't think I believe anything unless there's proof... I have opinions but I'm not stubborn about them.

[PrezLeefun]

I don't really believe anything. For example, I don't believe that the polls were rigged, but I don't not believe it either. I don't think I believe anything unless there's proof... I have opinions but I'm not stubborn about them.
There is a difference between being stubborn and assertive. Stubborn is when you are cleary undoubtly wrong. Assertive is sure and confident in your correctness.I am assertive in my belief that there is a heaven and hell. And millions of christians and non-christians alike agree with me.

[someone036]

I know that I should be nicer to her, but it's kind of like watching "Jackass", sometimes you just can't help but laugh at how clueless some people are.

I'm still here...

That message was a little hypocritical. You say you should be nice to me, then compare me to the people in Jackass (I would assume they're stupid, having seen it as I flip through channels on the tv. I can't stand shows like that, or like Viva la Bam, where all they do is hurt themselves and make lots of noise. I would have to mute the tv if I had to watch it lol :D)

[PrezLeefun]

I'm still here...

That message was a little hypocritical. You say you should be nice to me, then compare me to the people in Jackass (I would assume they're stupid, having seen it as I flip through channels on the tv. I can't stand shows like that, or like Viva la Bam, where all they do is hurt themselves and make lots of noise. I would have to mute the tv if I had to watch it lol :D)

she wasnt saying it it to be mean. She wants you to see the reality of God.

[Wolfcounsel]

They´re coming to take me away,
Haha, they´re coming to take me away,
Ho ho, hee hee, ha ha,
To the happy home with trees and flowers
And chirping birds and basket weavers
Who sit and smile and
Twiddle their thumbs and toes
And they´re coming to take me away,
HAHAAAAAAAAA --Napoleon XIV, They're Coming to Take Me Away

[PrezLeefun]

They´re coming to take me away,
Haha, they´re coming to take me away,
Ho ho, hee hee, ha ha,
To the happy home with trees and flowers
And chirping birds and basket weavers
Who sit and smile and
Twiddle their thumbs and toes
And they´re coming to take me away,
HAHAAAAAAAAA --Napoleon XIV, They're Coming to Take Me Away

WTF?

[Wolfcounsel]

"WTF?" --PrezLeefun

I concur with Faithful_Servant's opinion.<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->

[PrezLeefun]

"WTF?" --PrezLeefun

I concur with Faithful_Servant's opinion.<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->

OH OK

[Faithful_Servant]

rotflmao because I am stunned You would even bother to watch "Jackass"!:D
It's guilty pleasure. The funnest part is that I get to pretend that it's my favorite liberal politician testing the ability of that cup to protect the user from a line of 15 sixth-graders taking free shots at his groin.

[DoctorDoom]

<center>Artist: Napoleon XIV
From: Dr. Demento's Delights
Song: They're Coming to Take Me Away, Ha-Haaa!

Lyrics :

Remember when you ran away and I got on my knees and begged you not to
leave because I'd go berserk?? Well...
You left me anyhow and then the days got worse and worse and now you see
I've gone completely out of my mind.. And..
They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa!!
They're coming to take me away, ho-ho, hee-hee, ha-haaa
To the funny farm. Where life is beautiful all the time and I'll be
happy to see those nice young men in their clean white coats and they're
coming to take me away, ha-haaa!!!!!

You thought it was a joke and so you laughed, you laughed when I had said
that losing you would make me flip my lid.. RIGHT???
I know you laughed, I heard you laugh, you laughed you laughed and
laughed and then you left, but now you know I'm utterly mad... And..


They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa,
They're coming to take me away, ho-ho, hee-hee, ha-haaa.
To the happy home. With trees and flowers and chirping birds and basket
weavers who sit and smile and twiddle their thumbs and toes and they're
coming to take me away, ha-haaa!!!

I cooked your food, I cleaned your house, and this is how you pay me back
for all my kind unselfish loving deeds.. Huh??
Well you just wait, they'll find you yet and when they do they'll put you
in the ASPCA, you mangy mutt!!! And...

They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa.
They're coming to take me away, ho-ho, hee-hee, ha-haaa.
To the funny farm, where life is beautiful all the time and I'll be happy
to see those nice young men in their clean white coats and they're coming
to take me away, ha-haaa!!!
To the happy home, with trees and flowers and chirping birds and basket
weavers who sit and smile and twiddle their thumbs and toes and they're
coming to take me away, ha-haa!!!
To the funny farm, where life is beautiful all the time... (fade out)

Hey, buddy!
Yes officer..
You a head?
No, but I'm catching up, ha ha ha....</center>

[DoctorDoom]

And if that isn't sufficiently poignant and emotionally stirring...

Fish Heads
by Dr.Demento

Fish heads fish heads,
Roly poly fish heads,
Fish heads fish heads,
Eat them up yum

Fish heads fish heads,
Roly poly fish heads,
Fish heads fish heads,
Eat them up yum

In the morning,
Laughing happy fish heads,
In the evening,
Floating in the soup,

Fish heads fish heads,
Roly poly fish heads,
Fish heads fish heads,
Eat them up yum

Ask a fish head,
Anything you want to,
They won't answer,
They can't talk

Fish heads fish heads,
Roly poly fish heads,
Fish heads fish heads,
Eat them up yum

I took a fish head,
Out to see a movie,
Didn't have to pay
To get it in

Fish heads fish heads,
Roly poly fish heads,
Fish heads fish heads,
Eat them up yum

They cant play baseball,
They dont wear sweaters,
There not good dancers,
They dont play drums

Fish heads fish heads,
Roly poly fish heads,
Fish heads fish heads,
Eat them up yum

Roly poly fish heads are never seen
Drinking cappucino in Italian resturants,
With oriental women, yeah

Fish heads fish heads,
Roly poly fish heads,
Fish heads fish heads,
Eat them up yum

Fish heads fish heads,
Roly poly fish heads,
Fish heads fish heads,
Eat them up yum, (yum!)

Fish heads fish heads,
Roly poly fish heads,
Fish heads fish heads,
Eat them up yum

Fish heads fish heads,
Roly poly fish heads,
Fish heads fish heads,
Eat them up yum,

Yea..

[DesertFox]

Like, deep, mon.

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

Imagine

Imagine there's no heaven, So to nothing, we aspire
It's easy if you try, But why would one WANT to?
No hell below us, No reason/incentive to be good, no consequences/punishment for the bad
Above us only sky, Space, the final frontier, eh?
Imagine all the people
living for today... Don't have to imagine that one, that's what most people do right now -- that, and living for "self".

Imagine there's no countries, Lawlessness everywhere
It isnt hard to do, Again, why would one WANT to?
Nothing to kill or die for, And nothing to STOP killing for either
No religion too, One can survive without religion, one WILL NOT survive without Christ/God.
Imagine all the people
living life in peace... There is NO such place as Utopia, sorry.

Imagine no possesions, So anyone is free to take from another anytime they want, she's not YOUR wife, that's not YOUR food, you can get in your neighbor's car and drive away . . . .
I wonder if you can, No, and have no desire to
No need for greed or hunger, There's no need for it today, doesn't stop it from happening though
A brotherhood of man, we already ARE brothers (God made us that way), it is personal preference to believe it or not
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world... Already DO share it, what planet YOU on?

You may say Im a dreamer, Nope, I say you're a liberal
but Im not the only one, I know, but at least your numbers are reduced
I hope some day you'll join us, Not in a million, billion years
And the world will live as one. That's going to happen anyway. You should read the end of The Book!

[someone036]

In John Lennon's time that might work but not nowadays, not since Jimmy Carter signed the Camp David Accords. If only it were as simple as what John Lennon wrote about.

If it can work at all, then it can work any time.

[someone036]

So to nothing, we aspire
But why would one WANT to?
No reason/incentive to be good, no consequences/punishment for the bad
Space, the final frontier, eh?
Don't have to imagine that one, that's what most people do right now -- that, and living for "self".

Lawlessness everywhere
Again, why would one WANT to?
And nothing to STOP killing for either
One can survive without religion, one WILL NOT survive without Christ/God.
There is NO such place as Utopia, sorry.

So anyone is free to take from another anytime they want, she's not YOUR wife, that's not YOUR food, you can get in your neighbor's car and drive away . . . .
No, and have no desire to
There's no need for it today, doesn't stop it from happening though
we already ARE brothers (God made us that way), it is personal preference to believe it or not
Already DO share it, what planet YOU on?

Nope, I say you're a liberal
I know, but at least your numbers are reduced
Not in a million, billion years
That's going to happen anyway. You should read the end of The Book!

There could be peace if everyone agreed to it. The problem is, some conservatives say it's impossible, so don't even try to achieve it, and some people are just crazy, and think violence is okay. It is possible to educate those crazy people.

[Beowulf]

OK, Someone, name me a Muslim leader that will accept peaceful terms that don't include the erradication of Israel as a nation and our refusal to support that country? As a Conservative, I say that peace is unattainable because as long as there is a species called man, war will always exist. I'm always willing to talk peaceful solutions but people nowadays won't budge unless it's there way or no way. I won't deal with those types as I'm not going to accept the short end just to please them.

[DesertFox]

The enduring, uh, truth about the song Imagine is that liberals see it as profound while Conservatives see it as grade school daydreaming.

[nene]

There could be peace if everyone agreed to it. The problem is, some conservatives say it's impossible, so don't even try to achieve it, and some people are just crazy, and think violence is okay. It is possible to educate those crazy people.

Extinguish that blunt and take a nap.

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

There could be peace if everyone agreed to it. The problem is, some conservatives say it's impossible, so don't even try to achieve it, and some people are just crazy, and think violence is okay. It is possible to educate those crazy people.

You are wrong, and obviously do not understand a thing about human nature. In each and every one of us is a "sin nature." It will not go away, and no one is able to suppress it fully . . . no one, save One, Jesus Christ.

The ONLY way to achieve the world in which you desire is to first eradicate all those who do not wish to live in peace. Then the "new world" will only exist under the threat of extinction by the "one" who eradicated all those who did not wish to live in peace in the first place.

The BEST we can do is a stalemate with our fellow human beings. Even THAT is a very remote possibility, for their will always exist the elements in this life who do NOT wish to live by ANY rules whatsoever, no matter WHO makes them (the rules).

You are seeking a place which does not, nor will it ever exist until the Lord returns in Glory and renews the world.

[UnkHiram]

Actually I always loved the song "Imagine" by John Lennon. You might notice he didnt say there was no Heaven or Hell just asked us to "Imagine" there wasnt one. John was a flaming liberal tree hugging radical anti-war Leftist idiot BUT he did make beutifull music and you have to give him credit for having the courage of his convictions. As Insane as they may have been.

[Wolfcounsel]

"John was a flaming liberal tree hugging radical anti-war Leftist idiot BUT he did make beutifull music and you have to give him credit for having the courage of his convictions." --UnkHiram


Nope, sorry. I do not give any leftist any credit for any convictions he has.

[DesertFox]

Agreed. Lennon's "convictions" were those of a starry-eyed teenager who thinks sex is the answer to everything, preferably enhanced with Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds. Serious adults grow past that.

[PrezLeefun]

Someone think about what that song is saying. If you think of all those lryics it means Humans and all other forms of life are usless have no meaning or value. We have no hopefulness, and no reason for fullfilment. Is that really the kind of world you want to imagine?

[PrezLeefun]

So to nothing, we aspire
But why would one WANT to?
No reason/incentive to be good, no consequences/punishment for the bad
Space, the final frontier, eh?
Don't have to imagine that one, that's what most people do right now -- that, and living for "self".

Lawlessness everywhere
Again, why would one WANT to?
And nothing to STOP killing for either
One can survive without religion, one WILL NOT survive without Christ/God.
There is NO such place as Utopia, sorry.

So anyone is free to take from another anytime they want, she's not YOUR wife, that's not YOUR food, you can get in your neighbor's car and drive away . . . .
No, and have no desire to
There's no need for it today, doesn't stop it from happening though
we already ARE brothers (God made us that way), it is personal preference to believe it or not
Already DO share it, what planet YOU on?

Nope, I say you're a liberal
I know, but at least your numbers are reduced
Not in a million, billion years
That's going to happen anyway. You should read the end of The Book!

Homes have i told you lately that i love you?:D

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

Homes have i told you lately that i love you?:D

Aw, darlin', I love you too! :thumb: But if I was really, REALLY good, I would have made mine rhyme too, LOL.

[PrezLeefun]

Aw, darlin', I love you too! :thumb: But if I was really, REALLY good, I would have made mine rhyme too, LOL.
:icon133:

[Conserv_Atticus]

I'd rather live believing in a God, and then find out there isn't, than to live not beleving in a God to find out there is one.

[DesertFox]

I'd rather live by common sense, which is why I believe in God.

[DoctorDoom]

There could be peace if everyone agreed to it.And what are the odds of that? In all of human history since the fall of man, that state has not existed.

The problem is, some conservatives say it's impossible...It is, and it's not just conservatives who definitively state that. Anyone with the merest grasp of human nature is well aware that as long as we are human, there will be no peace. That truth can be seen even in the conflicts over toys in nursery schools.

... so don't even try to achieve it...Wrong. Unlike libs, we believe strongly in a just and lasting peace.

http://www.lifelibertyetc.com/Images/Products/ptsf_patches_02.jpg

...and some people are just crazy, and think violence is okay. It is possible to educate those crazy people.They can't be educated. They must be eliminated.

[someone036]

OK, Someone, name me a Muslim leader that will accept peaceful terms that don't include the erradication of Israel as a nation and our refusal to support that country? As a Conservative, I say that peace is unattainable because as long as there is a species called man, war will always exist. I'm always willing to talk peaceful solutions but people nowadays won't budge unless it's there way or no way. I won't deal with those types as I'm not going to accept the short end just to please them.

I've thought this for a while now: the problem might not be what the people want. It's just that they can't agree. It might not actually matter who wins whatever it is- the solution is to agree. Just a thought. I'm not too sure about it. And already I'm thinking of things that that wouldn't work for.

[someone036]

The enduring, uh, truth about the song Imagine is that liberals see it as profound while Conservatives see it as grade school daydreaming.

Well I am only 14. Maybe I'll think differently when I'm older.

[someone036]

I'd rather live believing in a God, and then find out there isn't, than to live not beleving in a God to find out there is one.

Good point. But I can't just change my beliefs. I could say I believe in a god, but I don't think I would truly believe it.

[someone036]

I'd rather live by common sense, which is why I believe in God.

"Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen." -Albert Einstein

[someone036]

And what are the odds of that? In all of human history since the fall of man, that state has not existed.

It is, and it's not just conservatives who definitively state that. Anyone with the merest grasp of human nature is well aware that as long as we are human, there will be no peace. That truth can be seen even in the conflicts over toys in nursery schools.

Wrong. Unlike libs, we believe strongly in a just and lasting peace.

http://www.lifelibertyetc.com/Images/Products/ptsf_patches_02.jpg

They can't be educated. They must be eliminated.

They're humans just like us. If we can be educated, so can they.

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

They're humans just like us. If we can be educated, so can they.

Sadly, many well educated people go on to commit heinous acts, crimes, etc. It is noble to desire a place of peace and harmony. It is noble to work toward that cause. It is irrational to believe that it will ever truly be achieved because people are not cut from cookie-cutter molds. There are some people who simply refuse to conform to rules of society, no matter WHAT they are.

Education is not the answer -- it is a good tool though. The only answer is to change the person within and do the best you can in the world in which you live to influence others positively and never be a stumbling block unto another. The two best rules to live by (OTHER than the 10 Commandments which are the ABSOLUTE BEST):

1) Do all you agree and/or say you will do,
2) Do not infringe upon another, their life or his/her property.

[DesertFox]

More to the point, how are we to ensure their education? What will NOT work is for us to teach our kids to lie down with the lion, while they teach their kids to eat raw lambchop.

That's what has been going on the last 40 years or so.

[PrezLeefun]

Well I am only 14. Maybe I'll think differently when I'm older.

Someone think about what that song is saying. If you think of all those lryics it means Humans and all other forms of life are usless have no meaning or value. We have no hopefulness, and no reason for fullfilment. Is that really the kind of world you want to imagine?
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[DoctorDoom]

They're humans just like us. If we can be educated, so can they.Physically, they might be human. Morally and ethically, they are not. Few things are more dangerous than a well-educated monster. History is replete with examples of that truth.

[Chris]

Well, I had a 45 of "They're Coming to Take Me Away Ha-Haaa!", and played it til my parents went berserk http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/images/icons/goofyeyes.gif, but "Fish Heads" escapes me Doc. Was that on the flip side that I never even looked at? :D

[DoctorDoom]

Fish heads was not a Top-40 side. Of course they are all aced by the eternal 1963 classic done by Danny and Joey of WKBW, called "Rats in My Room".

[Longhorn_Platinum]

Imagine there's no heaven,
It's easy if you try,...

:smirky: It's easiër when you know you're going to HELL.

[Longhorn_Platinum]

John was a flaming liberal tree hugging radical anti-war Leftist idiot BUT he did make beutifull music and you have to give him credit for having the courage of his convictions.

:unsmile: No, I don't. He had as much "conviction" as some idiot driving his car the wrong way through a shopping mall parking lot aisle, expecting everybody else to back up, or squeeze over to make room, sure in his "convictions" that he has a right to drive like a kook. I don't give credit to people who are WRONG. And his music sucked, too.

[Longhorn_Platinum]

And if that isn't sufficiently poignant and emotionally stirring...

Fish Heads
by Dr.Demento

Fish heads fish heads,...

:moo: Here's my favorite...

It's Christmas at ground zero
There's music in the air
The sleigh bells are ringing and the carolers are singing
While the air raid sirens blare

It's Christmas at ground zero
The button has been pressed
The radio just let us know
That this is not a test

Everywhere the atom bombs are dropping
It's the end of all humanity
No more time for last-minute shopping
It's time to face your final destiny

It's Christmas at ground zero
There's panic in the crowd
We can dodge debris while we trim the tree
Underneath the mushroom cloud

You might hear some reindeer on your rooftop
Or Jack Frost on your windowsill
But if someone's climbing down your chimney
You better load your gun and shoot to kill

It's Christmas at ground zero
And if the radiation level's okay
I'll go out with you and see all the new
Mutations on New Year's Day

It's Christmas at ground zero
Just seconds left to go
I'll duck and cover with my Yuletide lover
Underneath the mistletoe

It's Christmas at ground zero
Now the missiles are on their way
What a crazy fluke, we're gonna get nuked
On this jolly holiday

:moo: Nobody could make 'em like Al Yankovic.

[UnkHiram]

Longhorn,

I am way too sick to argue with you tonight. This one time lets agree to disagree

[Longhorn_Platinum]

:moo: No problémo. We're all entitled to our beliefs.

[DesertFox]

...even if they're wrong. :D

[someone036]

Physically, they might be human. Morally and ethically, they are not. Few things are more dangerous than a well-educated monster. History is replete with examples of that truth.

lol If someone is human they are completely, 100% human.

[Longhorn_Platinum]

...even if they're wrong. :D

:rotflmbo: :icon133:

[PrezLeefun]

:rotflmbo: :icon133:
yep ditto

[Riverboat]

Actually I always loved the song "Imagine" by John Lennon.
I'll say this for Lennon. He wrote a song that has as beautiful a piano arrangement as any song I've ever heard.

As for the lyrics, I'll believe them when someone manages to repeal original sin.