Generation Nothing: Changing a "No" veiw of Evil

[PrezLeefun]

Generation Nothing: Changing a "No" veiw of Evil.

Note: I dont not agree with many of thoughts expressed in this short work, but am part of this generation because of my age.

My generation is young and inexperienced. We have many hopes and enough doubts to back them up. Many see a President that does nothing, a war that is going nowhere, and people dying for no reason. My generation does not know life without MTV or the internet. We have no clear idea of what sexual activity really is due to the one President we clearly remember. We see no God, no good nor evil. We have no choice yet all the choices in the world. We can be what we want to be and yet we are forced to become something by the society in which we live. We hate violence in the news but love it in Kill Bill Vol.2. We will in about 20 years (despite our better knowledge) recall that Politicans were honest, prices were low, you'd never let your daughter wear that outfit in public, or son drive that car. But what most disturbs me is my generations lack of faith. Why do we not have God? Where have our choices gone? How do we know good from evil?

But now I am asking an older generation without sarcasim or any smartass agenda how do we solve that one problem of faith?

[Wolfcounsel]

"But now I am asking an older generation without sarcasim or any smartass agenda how do we solve that one problem of faith?" -- posted by PrezLeefun

Follow the Golden Rule, for one.

[PrezLeefun]

Thanx for caring Wolfie I think you are the only one who does.

[Rink]

"Ask and ye shall receive, seek and ye shall find..."

All one has to do is ASK.

Simple thing to do, but it seems for many its the most difficult thing to do in their lives.

Why i dunno.

Ditto on what Wolfie said.

Much of the reason why young are lacking in Faith is because they were not TAUGHT it or showin it by their parents.

They werent taught about the power of faith in our nations Leaders, spiritual leaders, and in the Bible and in everyday life.

One must Look to see everyday acts of faith, as that entails 'trust'

One must learn to trust in what one does not see in order to have 'faith'

faith without a faoundation in God is dead unto itself, the only way to find faith is to go to God and ASK him for it.

[PrezLeefun]

ohhhhhhhh I like that.

[UnkHiram]

Prez

Wolfie isnt the only one that cared, he was just the first one to read the string. I really dont know the answer to your question thou. Personally, I am a reformed Atheist. The birth of my kids is what convinced me that their was a God.

[PrezLeefun]

I know UNK Im too impatiant for my own good.

[Taylor]

You must be a generation younger than me. My generation is too young to remember Veitnam. We barely know what it's like not to have video games to play but we know what it's like not to have the Internet. Ronald Reagan was president when we were teenagers.

[UnkHiram]

You must be a generation younger than me. My generation is too young to remember Veitnam. We barely know what it's like not to have video games to play but we know what it's like not to have the Internet. Ronald Reagan was president when we were teenagers.

My Generation went to school every day listening to Walter Cronkite give the daily death toll. Nixon, Ford and Carter were our Teenage Presidents. We can remember when "Atari" was new and hot.

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

My generation is young and inexperienced.

True of every generation, at the begginings of their "adult" life.

We have many hopes and enough doubts to back them up.

Didn't we all! LOL

Many see a President that does nothing, a war that is going nowhere, and people dying for no reason.

Because that is the pablum being fed them by the government education, mainstream press, and biased media reporting. Remember, the ones in those occupations NOW, were the youth of yesterday, living in the shadow of Vietnam, Watergate, and Woodstock.


My generation does not know life without MTV or the internet.

Nor lives with a parent at home during the day. MTV and the Internet have become alternate babysitters, via the TV and Computer -- of course you left out the video games.

We have no clear idea of what sexual activity really is due to the one President we clearly remember.

Why should you when this country has abandoned the foundation upon which understanding of sexual issues rests? There is no common agreement with what is right or wrong anymore, because all morals have become relative. We have no guideline that can be pointed to as the Absolute Authority on any issue, much less the area of sex. By eliminating the standard, we adopt an "if it feels good, do it" attitude, which serves no other purpose except self -- who cares who it hurts, as long as I'm "happy!"

We see no God, no good nor evil.

Because all standards of right and wrong have been blurred almost to the point of extinction. When you have no FOUNDATION, the house cannot possibly stand (for long).

We have no choice yet all the choices in the world.

Your generation has plenty of choices, they just believe they are owed everything all at once without having to pay, sacrifice, or work for it. They don't recognize the choices offered because to do so they must take personal responsibility for the choices made -- better not to make ANY choices and blame their failure or lack of success on somebody else.

We can be what we want to be and yet we are forced to become something by the society in which we live.

Untrue, the only limiting factor on a person's life is themselves. Many people who suffer horrible conditions, lives, circumstances raise themselves up to become grand people. But they did so by BELIEVING they could and making it happen, not by waiting on others to provide things for them or make them happen. Determination can overcome all obstacles, if one WANTS to overcome.

We hate violence in the news but love it in Kill Bill Vol.2.

So very, very sad, yet so very, very true.

We will in about 20 years (despite our better knowledge) recall that Politicans were honest, prices were low, you'd never let your daughter wear that outfit in public, or son drive that car.

Not only been there, but AM there, NOW!

But what most disturbs me is my generations lack of faith.

Understandbly upsetting, and I've often wondered that myself.

Why do we not have God?

Well, we know it's not because God left us -- we abandoned him ... gradually, little-by-little and piece-by-piece we have slowly allowed Him to be eliminated from almost all aspects of our lives.

Where have our choices gone?

Still there ... just don't seem so appealing anymore because they require effort, work, sacrifice, pain, and action on our part.

How do we know good from evil?

This one's easy -- we have the Instruction Manual straight from the Maker Himself. 'Course, one has to CHOOSE to pick it up and read it, first. Easier just to ignore it, say it's outdated, irrelevant, and NOT recognized as the foundation for understanding, interpreting, and judging all behavior.


But now I am asking an older generation without sarcasim or any smartass agenda how do we solve that one problem of faith?

Be a light, be a witness with your life (not just your words), share your knowledge, stand up for what you believe in, share the Gospel, don't sit back and wait for others to pick up the slack, get in there and grab the reins yourself. We are ALL being watched by someone or by many someones -- what is our LIFE saying that our words are not? To show faith, one must first have it. If one has it, they should share it, and desire above all desires to share it. Through the heart is the only way faith will take hold again (of course, we know He has to do the work, we are only charged with being obedient to His command.)

[For_My_Canada]

How do we know good from evil? Well, I put it more to right from wrong. Personally, homeschool can go for her bible for such a distinction, but I prefer the good ol' method of determining what you believe to be right from wrong on your own, and I think that works, since I've done it myself. Only bad thing is determination of right from wrong can change from time to time, though that's with all kids turning to teens, then turning to adults, such as myself, lol.

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

How do we know good from evil? Well, I put it more to right from wrong. Personally, homeschool can go for her bible for such a distinction, but I prefer the good ol' method of determining what you believe to be right from wrong on your own, and I think that works, since I've done it myself. Only bad thing is determination of right from wrong can change from time to time, though that's with all kids turning to teens, then turning to adults, such as myself, lol.

Canada,
No offense intended, but that is exactly what is wrong with "your way." When "right" and "wrong" become relative to only the person deciding, then ANYONE is free to justify ANYTHING they want to do, say, or how they wish to act. This is inviting disaster. If one wants to murder, lie, steal, cheat, misbehave, etc., they can find a way to justify it -- so who is in authority to say it is "wrong" if they think it is "right"?

There needs to be a point of agreement for a society as to what is "right" and what is "wrong." If we base it merely on one, or a group of, individual(s), then we are putting humans in charge of the decision making. We all know humans in and of themselves are flawed, we bring our own bias to the table when making decisions. So here again, we get back to a point of simply relativity. This is not acceptable, as there will ALWAYS be disagreements about what is "right" and what is "wrong."

By using that which was given to us by the Creator Himself, we have an established set of laws/rules/guidelines -- a definite answer to what is "right" and what is "wrong." There need not be any problem in determining guilt or innocence, right or wrong action, because we have the Word of The Authority Himself. This solves the problem of human error, relieves the mortal of guilt for judgement, and gives everyone a place to turn to for answers.

When one says, but there is no God, there is no Higher Authority, then you will have a world, such as it is now, where there will NEVER be any agreement on what is "right" and what is "wrong."

[DoctorDoom]

No generation is per se good or evil. Rather, they are new clay waiting to be shaped and molded into worthy vessels. Unfortunately, there are a decreasing number of skillful potters who patiently work the unformed clay into beautiful works of art.

Some just let the clay sit unattended until it hardens into an unmanageable lump.

Some say, "Who am I to dictate what the clay will be?" and allow it to determine its own shape during the process.

Some put at best a half-hearted effort into it, giving it a crude shape that will perhaps serve some useful purpose but has no refinement.

Some argue and fight over what to make of the clay, pulling it this way and that and ending up with a twisted, distorted creation that has little value and no purpose.

And some work as teams for years to mold and press and smoothe and refine the clay until it becomes a precious vessel of great honor and incalculable worth. Sad to say, these artists are becoming rarer as time passes.

Prov 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.

The vessels reflect the care and skill of the potters. Remember that when judging them.

[DoctorDoom]

How do we know good from evil? Well, I put it more to right from wrong. Personally, homeschool can go for her bible for such a distinction, but I prefer the good ol' method of determining what you believe to be right from wrong on your own, and I think that works, since I've done it myself. Only bad thing is determination of right from wrong can change from time to time, though that's with all kids turning to teens, then turning to adults, such as myself, lol.Without an external standard of right and wrong, of good and evil, every person becomes his/her own standard. That's utter folly.

Judges 17:6 In those days there was no king in Israel, but every man did that which was right in his own eyes.

In our days, the King of kings has been forsaken, and we also do that which is right in our own eyes. The amoral, self-centered, hedonistic culture of this time is the result.

There's a judgment coming.

[PrezLeefun]

Canada I know we are jumping on you but I must also get on the bandwagon. Where do you think the standards of right and wrong first came from? I'll tell you: the Bible. Think about it.

[PrezLeefun]

ok so i posted the same thing on my liberal site and here is what some kids said. its in a weird format forgive me!:cool:


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Posts: 277</TD><TD background=image/ico_2x5_vertdot.gif bgColor=#ffdc88>http://www.the-n.com/image/spacer.gif</TD><TD bgColor=#ffdc88>http://www.the-n.com/image/spacer.gif</TD><TD vAlign=top align=left bgColor=#ffdc88>Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 09:34 PM
Subject: Is Our Generation Lost?

Generation Nothing: Changing a "No" veiw of Evil.

Note: I dont not agree with many of thoughts expressed in this short work, but am part of this generation because of my age.

My generation is young and inexperienced. We have many hopes and enough doubts to back them up. Many see a President that does nothing, a war that is going nowhere, and people dying for no reason. My generation does not know life without MTV or the internet. We have no clear idea of what sexual activity really is due to the one President we clearly remember. We see no God, no good nor evil. We have no choice yet all the choices in the world. We can be what we want to be and yet we are forced to become something by the society in which we live. We hate violence in the news but love it in Kill Bill Vol.2. We will in about 20 years (despite our better knowledge) recall that Politicans were honest, prices were low, you'd never let your daughter wear that outfit in public, or son drive that car. But what most disturbs me is my generations lack of faith. Why do we not have God? Where have our choices gone? How do we know good from evil?

But now I am asking without sarcasim or any smartass agenda how do we solve that one problem of faith?

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Do you mean faith in general? I believe faith is a personal issue that can't be changed by someone saying that they should be this faith or that. Plenty of teens believe in God, some stress God in everything they do. I have a personal relationship with God, and even though I don't belong to a youth group, or try to evangelize others does not mean I am not spiritual and talk to God.

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Subject: im 13

I am 13, and my generation sure as hell is educated.

At least I know what is going on in the world, despite a lot of other people.

I know what is going on besides MTV and the internet.

I have no God because I have thought about it for a lot longer then you have and I have made my decision and I have my reasons as to why I do not beleive in God.


And as for good and wrong, I know the difference. Some people may see me as a bad person but I know that I am truely doing good in the world. I know when to shut up and speak. I know when enough is enough.


So you can quit calling my generation uneduacted (you didnt use that word but I think that was your point) and wake up.


Because I AM SURE AS HELL CAN SEE BEYOND MTV AND THE INTERNET.



(your just so wrong. There are some kids like that but not all)

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Subject: Is Our Generation Lost?

<TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3 width="90%" align=center border=0><TBODY><TR><TD>Leefun wrote:</TD></TR><TR><TD class=quote>
Generation Nothing: Changing a "No" veiw of Evil.

Note: I dont not agree with many of thoughts expressed in this short work, but am part of this generation because of my age.

My generation is young and inexperienced. We have many hopes and enough doubts to back them up. Many see a President that does nothing, a war that is going nowhere, and people dying for no reason. My generation does not know life without MTV or the internet. We have no clear idea of what sexual activity really is due to the one President we clearly remember. We see no God, no good nor evil. We have no choice yet all the choices in the world. We can be what we want to be and yet we are forced to become something by the society in which we live. We hate violence in the news but love it in Kill Bill Vol.2. We will in about 20 years (despite our better knowledge) recall that Politicans were honest, prices were low, you'd never let your daughter wear that outfit in public, or son drive that car. But what most disturbs me is my generations lack of faith. Why do we not have God? Where have our choices gone? How do we know good from evil?

But now I am asking without sarcasim or any smartass agenda how do we solve that one problem of faith?
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Their is a soloution. The only problem is no one is going to do it. Get your head out of the TV, read the paper, question everything, and think about everything. We do not have faith because the media and the world has brought to light new diversity in the world and people realize that their faith could very well be wrong. The problem is that people dont understand that faith is not a head game, its about what you feel. By beleiveig in a certain religion, you are admiting that some things are beyond your understanding. Most people can not accept this. As for right and wrong, I pretty much resort to nihlisim on this. You pretty much have to go on your gut instinct on what right or wrong is. Sadly, this a direct result of society and media in any circumstance. But its alot less societal if you get your head out of reality television and get your head into reality.
Ahh, thanks. I needed that

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Posts: 170</TD><TD background=image/ico_2x5_vertdot.gif bgColor=#ffdc88>http://www.the-n.com/image/spacer.gif</TD><TD bgColor=#ffdc88>http://www.the-n.com/image/spacer.gif</TD><TD vAlign=top align=left bgColor=#ffdc88>Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 11:15 PM
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We are not lost, we simply have not found our path yet.

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Subject: im 13

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I am 13, and my generation sure as hell is educated.

At least I know what is going on in the world, despite a lot of other people.

I know what is going on besides MTV and the internet.

I have no God because I have thought about it for a lot longer then you have and I have made my decision and I have my reasons as to why I do not beleive in God.


And as for good and wrong, I know the difference. Some people may see me as a bad person but I know that I am truely doing good in the world. I know when to shut up and speak. I know when enough is enough.


So you can quit calling my generation uneduacted (you didnt use that word but I think that was your point) and wake up.


Because I AM SURE AS HELL CAN SEE BEYOND MTV AND THE INTERNET.



(your just so wrong. There are some kids like that but not all)
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Hey Hey Hey slow down kid. One I am a few years older than you have learned a thing or two about life. I didn't intend to say anything bad. But you need to reveiw what i said again and think about the meaning.

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We don't need a God to not be 'lost'. I know plenty of people that are very religious but have no clue about the world around them. On the other hand, I know people that are athiest who are the same way.
So I don't think that God is the issue here. The issue is that alot of kids don't have good parents to help them with their homework, then the kids get agrevated and give up. So they stop being successful and fall into that trap of MTV, porn, and AIM. That's how they become 'lost', not because they don't believe in God. I'd say.. about 3/4 of the people in my school are like that. There are a select few that do care about the world, but those are mostly Juniors and Seniors who have woken up and smelled reality.
So my points are:
1) the more mature people grow, the more they realize about violence.
2) we need to help kids be more successful and not give up so easily.
But I don't think that our generatioin is lost.

sk8 gr8!

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Subject: Is Our Generation Lost?

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Generation Nothing: Changing a "No" veiw of Evil.

Note: I dont not agree with many of thoughts expressed in this short work, but am part of this generation because of my age.

My generation is young and inexperienced. We have many hopes and enough doubts to back them up. Many see a President that does nothing, a war that is going nowhere, and people dying for no reason. My generation does not know life without MTV or the internet. We have no clear idea of what sexual activity really is due to the one President we clearly remember. We see no God, no good nor evil. We have no choice yet all the choices in the world. We can be what we want to be and yet we are forced to become something by the society in which we live. We hate violence in the news but love it in Kill Bill Vol.2. We will in about 20 years (despite our better knowledge) recall that Politicans were honest, prices were low, you'd never let your daughter wear that outfit in public, or son drive that car. But what most disturbs me is my generations lack of faith. Why do we not have God? Where have our choices gone? How do we know good from evil?

But now I am asking without sarcasim or any smartass agenda how do we solve that one problem of faith?
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dude yea we are screwed

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Subject: im 13

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I am 13, and my generation sure as hell is educated.

At least I know what is going on in the world, despite a lot of other people.

I know what is going on besides MTV and the internet.

I have no God because I have thought about it for a lot longer then you have and I have made my decision and I have my reasons as to why I do not beleive in God.


And as for good and wrong, I know the difference. Some people may see me as a bad person but I know that I am truely doing good in the world. I know when to shut up and speak. I know when enough is enough.


So you can quit calling my generation uneduacted (you didnt use that word but I think that was your point) and wake up.


Because I AM SURE AS HELL CAN SEE BEYOND MTV AND THE INTERNET.



(your just so wrong. There are some kids like that but not all)
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how can you be doing good.. oh nvm.. if i said it they would post it

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<TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3 width="90%" align=center border=0><TBODY><TR><TD>BubbaGus33 wrote:</TD></TR><TR><TD class=quote>
We don't need a God to not be 'lost'. I know plenty of people that are very religious but have no clue about the world around them. On the other hand, I know people that are athiest who are the same way.
So I don't think that God is the issue here. The issue is that alot of kids don't have good parents to help them with their homework, then the kids get agrevated and give up. So they stop being successful and fall into that trap of MTV, porn, and AIM. That's how they become 'lost', not because they don't believe in God. I'd say.. about 3/4 of the people in my school are like that. There are a select few that do care about the world, but those are mostly Juniors and Seniors who have woken up and smelled reality.
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1) the more mature people grow, the more they realize about violence.
2) we need to help kids be more successful and not give up so easily.
But I don't think that our generatioin is lost.

sk8 gr8!
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i agree

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A lot of people are saying now and days "get your kid off the net and television" to be honest, I do my HW before I get on the comp and those who don't do their school work and stuff, its the parents fault. I think its time people stop blaming things on the kids, but the parents (though it is both faults to me). Kids know what they are doing when they have underage sex and whatnot, at the same time, parents do they know where their child is? Perhaps they need more supervision. I don't think we're screwed at all, everyone is different and it takes experiance to gain more knowledge.

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We are not lost, we simply have not found our path yet.
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i have many thoughts on this topic..at first i thought we were lost. then after readding the thoughts of others i am utterly...confused! i'ma good kid..religious, smart. but theere are so many who don't have te advantages i have.. like a good home and family. after reviewing this i relized that we are no different than any other generation. some lost others found. this wonnt change, the numbers may shift but i belive the generations to come will be like us..some found some lost. you cannot change this because some ppl. are very driven and others see no point to life. thank you. man i feel like a scientistt!!!!!!

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A lot of people are saying now and days "get your kid off the net and television" to be honest, I do my HW before I get on the comp and those who don't do their school work and stuff, its the parents fault. I think its time people stop blaming things on the kids, but the parents (though it is both faults to me). Kids know what they are doing when they have underage sex and whatnot, at the same time, parents do they know where their child is? Perhaps they need more supervision. I don't think we're screwed at all, everyone is different and it takes experiance to gain more knowledge.
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i have to disagree with you their man. It is not up to the parents, it is up to us. Statistics show that less and less teens are smoking nowa days. Is that because more and more parents are cracking down on their kids, no. Its because it is becomeing less and less acceptable in our generation. Kids shouldnt depend on their parents to make them do their homework. if you dont do your homework, know you should be, and fail school. Sorry man, its your fault.

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[CzechPrince]

How do we know good from evil? Well, I put it more to right from wrong. Personally, homeschool can go for her bible for such a distinction, but I prefer the good ol' method of determining what you believe to be right from wrong on your own, and I think that works, since I've done it myself. Only bad thing is determination of right from wrong can change from time to time, though that's with all kids turning to teens, then turning to adults, such as myself, lol.

I agree. Everyone has different morals and ethics. The only other thing I would add differently is that people can decide their own and act accordingly pending they are not infringing on anyone else's rights and freedoms.

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

No generation is per se good or evil. Rather, they are new clay waiting to be shaped and molded into worthy vessels. Unfortunately, there are a decreasing number of skillful potters who patiently work the unformed clay into beautiful works of art.

Some just let the clay sit unattended until it hardens into an unmanageable lump.

Some say, "Who am I to dictate what the clay will be?" and allow it to determine its own shape during the process.

Some put at best a half-hearted effort into it, giving it a crude shape that will perhaps serve some useful purpose but has no refinement.

Some argue and fight over what to make of the clay, pulling it this way and that and ending up with a twisted, distorted creation that has little value and no purpose.

And some work as teams for years to mold and press and smoothe and refine the clay until it becomes a precious vessel of great honor and incalculable worth. Sad to say, these artists are becoming rarer as time passes.

Prov 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.

The vessels reflect the care and skill of the potters. Remember that when judging them.

:claps: Doc, absolutely wonderful (as usual!) May I borrow this? Gonna quote it on my blog, if you don't mind. Thank you for your golden words, your presence here is most appreciated (if by no others, definitely by me!):thankyou:

[Warlady]

Prez you have a liberal blog??????? Why? I couldn't understand half of what your posters wrote. Mainly because I couldn't tell when the quote ended and their posts began but even then their writing is just pathetic. Our schools are failing our kids.

I appreciate Doc more than you HS LOLOL

[DoctorDoom]

May I borrow this? Gonna quote it on my blog, if you don't mind.Feel free to do so.

[DoctorDoom]

ok so i posted the same thing on my liberal site and here is what some kids said.Oy vey!

[PrezLeefun]

no WL its not "my" site. Its just another site I frequent. www.the-n.com (http://www.the-n.com/) The only reason I say it is liberal is because a vast majority of the posts that make it through the filter are left of center...as you can see. I actually have three user names so i can keep posting. They will suspend if you are "too offensive" or if "your posts are frequently reported" whatever the hell that means.

[Taylor]

I agree that our schools are failing our kids. Just go to any leftist message board and mailing list. Most of the people who post there are kids and they can't even spell. They use u instead of you. They don't teach spelling and grammer anymore much less math.

[DesertFox]

Prez, didn't you tell us you're 17?

[PrezLeefun]

Prez, didn't you tell us you're 17?

Yes, why?

[Wyatt_Junker]

I like the idea of a generation nothing. Well, isn't that the, um, er... aborted one? Or perhaps, like eternal Obsession commercial reruns on mobius strip, the nothing generation refers to the colorless, anorexic, no-chested chicks with cheeks so hollow you would think they were wearing their exoskeletons like prawns.

Generation nada are the souls of those minced by gyno's with blood chunks still in their wiry hair from the invigorating D & C's they find their calling in...

[Apollo5600]

Wow, the punk kid websites are scary! I wonder how they can tolerate how everything looks in it?

[Apollo5600]

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I am 13........................
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........I have no God because I have thought about it for a lot longer then you have and I have made my decision and I have my reasons as to why I do not beleive in God.



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[PrezLeefun]

It is scary Apollo I am concerned. If you guys read my profile you will see that I wan to persue a career in politics. How will I lead those who do not want to be lead?

[Wolfcounsel]

"How will I lead those who do not want to be lead?" --PrezLeefun


No person has ever led anybody who did not want to be led.<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->

[Apollo5600]

It is scary Apollo I am concerned.

Even more scary then their sense of style!
But don't worry too much about it, there will be plenty of conservatives to vote you into office.

[PrezLeefun]

thanx!