My Night At College

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

:flame: aaaaarrrrrrggggghhhh!


Y'all mind if I vent a bit?? :hissyfit: I have been so steamed all evening since my night at college. But let me back up a bit,

Tonight was the College High School Dual Enrollment Program Student/Parent Night at our local community college. Bubba, li'l Bubba, and I were excited -- for those that didn't know, he took the college placement test, passed, and we are waiting to hear if his application for the Applied Welding Technology Certificate Program was accepted.

Anyhoo, we got there real early, and got good seats . . . four rows back right in front of the speakers podium. The room filled up fast, and the program started on time.

We had heard all about how the program was run, that was fine. Next we heard from the college counselors about communication between students, school (HS & college) and parents, that was okay but no mention of communication between homeschoolers, college and parents. No biggie, as homeschoolers we are used to being overlooked. Everything was going great until it came to the introduction of the high school teachers on staff at the college, and then, it happened.

A male teacher was introduced as the HS Social Sciences teacher. At first his remarks were rather innocuous. Then he pulled out the old hat-trick. His next statement was something like this:

"We are glad you are considering our school and this program for your student, however there are some things you need to know if your child becomes a dual enrollment student. We here at SFCC are dedicated to a providing and promoting an atmosphere of tolerance and diversity at our school. Because high school students are not separated or segregated from the regular college body, your child may be exposed to some different social ideas than what might be present in your small educational community. We believe it is important for the child to be a part of college life, and they are encouraged to take part in activities with regular college students, thereby opening them up to new ideas. We will not tolerate those who are not able to cooperate with this philosophy, and so you must think carefully about your decision to allow your child to be a part of our student body." (that was a general paraphrase -- wish I had brought a tape recorder!)

Oh my gosh, talk about liberal double-speak! He also said something in regards to not wanting to hear from upset parents about something their kid(s) had been exposed to at the campus. At that moment, Bubba looked over at me and I was for sure thinking he was going to put his fingers in my ears to keep the steam from coming out!

The one small silver lining -- li'l Bubba only has to take some math courses in the general high school area, as his main course of study will be in the Applied Welding Technologies vocational program. In other words, he WON'T have to take THAT teacher's class!

Whew ... I feel better now. Sorry so wordy, sometimes you just gotta get it all out, ya know!

Keep a good thought for li'l Bubba -- we should hear if he made it in, some time around the second week of May.

Many Blessings,
Hms

[Peachdiane]

We believe it is important for the child to be a part of college life, and they are encouraged to take part in activities with regular college students, thereby opening them up to new ideas. We will not tolerate those who are not able to cooperate with this philosophy

What? Sex and Drugs? They would never! :rolleyes:

When I was in college I focused on academics, part time work, being on the swim team and trying to start a politically conservative group. (Ha!) I didn't join my suitemates in their ahem... "new ideas" as this teacher calls them. I was happy with a few close friends.

A professor pulled me aside (and he was also social sciences!!!) He stated that he was "concerned" I wasn't active in the social scene. I thanked him for his concern but told him I was just trying to finish college as soon as possible and get out! I can socialize afterwards!!!

I'll be praying for 'lil Bubba! He'll do just fine!

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

I'll be praying for 'lil Bubba! He'll do just fine!

Thanks Peach!

Yeah, I know, I just never thought I would hear that kinda poo-poo in my own backyard, I thought that was only in big cities and big colleges, this is a little community college!

Anyway, I just needed to get that off my chest. Liberalism abounds, and we mustn't fool ourselves into believing it's in somebody else's city, somebody else's college, after somebody else's kids. Li'l Bubba knows what's what, I don't think he'll be fooled -- but you can bet your bottom dollar, he won't be part of "college life" as that teacher knows it, LOL! Wonder if they have a campus Republicans group? Something to investigate!

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

I knew I shouldn't have gotten outta bed this morning! (j/k)

I decided to do a little research on the prof who spouted off last night. I found this site called RateMyProfessor.com and looked up about him. Here's how a few of his students rated him:

1. mr. poe favors goodies, hates republicans, adn is a complete bias,liberal,and is unfair to republican point of view. you can't say something good about a rep. he'll cut u off! work hard to get an A!

2. Mr.Poe has a problem with favoring people. I did well in his class cause he liked me. He's the best teacher to take for eco though. he gets mad pretty easy so stay on his good side and you will do fine. he's good at preparing you for tests.

3. this man is biast and unfair, he favors boys over girls in the classroom, he teaches liberal ideas, during his class, and will not let a student support a republican, his reason,"I rag on both sides of the political wheel" what a lie, he hates r

Well, guess my opinion of him was spot-on! Sheesh!

[Wolfcounsel]

Excuse me, Home, but are those the words of a high school dumbass or a college dumbass? Where in the heck did the clown learn English?

[whipple]

Excuse me, Home, but are those the words of a high school dumbass or a college dumbass? Where in the heck did the clown learn English?

LOL Wolf.
When I come across poor grammar and spelling I like to use the phrase, 'Who learned you to spoke engrish!!?'

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

Excuse me, Home, but are those the words of a high school dumbass or a college dumbass? Where in the heck did the clown learn English?

Wolfie,
Which words . . . the one's I paraphrased (by the prof) in my initial post, or the words by the students in rating the prof? I can tell you, the more I find out about the dude, the more I KNOW I will not allow my son to take ANY of his classes (if I can help it). I went to the college website and found this listed for him on the faculty page:

Lauren Poe, Social Studies - BA, History, UF; M.Ed. Secondary Social Sciences, UF; Has worked locally and nationally on social studies curricum development and presented at the National Council for the Social Studies annual conference in Anaheim, Ca. Interestes include music, golf and cooking.

[Wolfcounsel]

Whipple caught it. I'm gonna tole you what. The words in the website rating the "professor", Home.:laugh:

[Beowulf]

This teacher sounds like another Prof. Churchill.

[Peachdiane]

OMG! I had no idea such a site existed! I looked up my profs. Here's the political science dude:

10/5/04 POS350
The guy is a tool. Thinks he knows what he is talking about, but just spouts radical and leftist garbage. He is illogical and irrational. Challenge him in class and he comes apart. A very weak professor
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4/26/04 POS
I felt that he was a really nice, really knowledgeable teacher. I enjoyed being in his 200 level class even though I didn't agree with his views.
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[HomeschoolrsRUs]

OMG! I had no idea such a site existed!

Pretty wild, huh Peach! I didn't know such an entity existed either until I was speaking with my daughter's riding instructor (she's a college student at this college). She was telling me that when li'l Bubba gets his schedule that I could ask her and her brother (also attending) and if they knew them they would give me a heads up on them. That's when she mentioned, too, about WWW.RateMyProfessor.com (http://www.ratemyprofessor.com/) to find out what other students think of their profs.

I was so bothered by this kook, that I have been trying to do some other amateur sleuthing to see if I could find out even more about him. Maybe another poster might have some insight as to how I might find out more. According to his little faculty bio he says he: Has worked locally and nationally on social studies curricum development and presented at the National Council for the Social Studies annual conference in Anaheim, Ca. Well, I have been trying to verify this information. Did a google search for the National Council for the Social Studies and for the conference in Anaheim, CA. Can't seem to find anywhere where I might find a schedule or itinerary with him listed as a presenter. Also, wonder how I would find out about his involvement (locally and/or nationally) on social studies curriculum.

Anyhoo, yeah, it's a great sight. I have been trying to remember the names of my old college profs when I was attending a community college. I only had one prof worth anything, my Humanities Instructor. He was fabulous -- which means he is probably no longer employed in the higher education arena (he HAD to be a conservative, if you could here his take on minimum wage and social issues I think you'd agree). But I cannot for the life of me remember his name -- only that he spoke just like Jimmy Stewart and I could sit riveted listening to him lecture all day!

[Peachdiane]

Homes, you must get a copy of your transcript then. ;) Mine lists my professors.

You lucked out with Humanities. In my experience, my most brilliant professors tend to be boring lecturers. In Humanities class my professor was this very smart, analytical man who put the entire class to sleep. I have always preferred a more interactive class.

But anyway thanks again for the site. I did more checking and all my professors with conservative leanings aren't listed. They probably left. (No surprise there as the college was super liberal).

[Peachdiane]

Well, I have been trying to verify this information. Did a google search for the National Council for the Social Studies and for the conference in Anaheim, CA. Can't seem to find anywhere where I might find a schedule or itinerary with him listed as a presenter.

I checked and I see MANY presenters but he's not listed anywhere. Very strange isn't it?

Here's the NCSS (http://www.ncss.org/) site which you probably already saw.

And a local chapter in California (http://www.ccss.org/)

They may have no affiliation but you may be able to get somewhere by contacting them. Oh man, if you busted this guy, that would be classic!

[PrezLeefun]

Homes I know how you feel. Dont worry its not the end of the world hearing the liberal crap. It was kind of like that when I went to Sarah Lawrence College. Waaaaaaaaayyyyy liberal. Very Gayyyyyyyyyy. I know exactly how you feel.

[CzechPrince]

Homeschool you don't think it is a good idea for your child (How old is he by the way?) to learn how to interact with people different than him?

[whipple]

Whipple caught it. I'm gonna tole you what. The words in the website rating the "professor", Home.:laugh:

http://freeconservatives.com/smilies/doggie.gif

[Wolfcounsel]

"Homeschool you don't think it is a good idea for your child (How old is he by the way?) to learn how to interact with people different than him?" --CzechPrince, to HomeschoolrsRUs


Ooooh! Me! Me! I don't think any student has to interact with dumbasses, professors or otherwise.:laugh: <!-- / message --><!-- sig -->

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

Homeschool you don't think it is a good idea for your child (How old is he by the way?) to learn how to interact with people different than him?

Sure -- he interacts with people "different" than him all the time (he will be 16 in March). We are not isolationists, despite what anyone may think. My point was that he should not have to be forced to receive an "education" from a professor who has an OBVIOUS bias against a certian segment of the student population who might attend his class.

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

Homes, you must get a copy of your transcript then. ;) Mine lists my professors.

Yeah -- I gotta do that anyway if I am going to try to enroll at our local CC. I went to school in another city (Ocala, actually), so I'll probably have to go in person to get it.

You lucked out with Humanities. In my experience, my most brilliant professors tend to be boring lecturers. In Humanities class my professor was this very smart, analytical man who put the entire class to sleep. I have always preferred a more interactive class.

Your description sounds like the dude I had for composition (2nd prof) -- WHAT a bore, so monotone and dreary. I opted out, and got a lady prof who was great! (My first Comp Prof was a sexist pig -- gave all the girls in class "nicknames", one of them was known as "Thunder-thighs!" After receiving an F (my first EVER in my educational history) on my very first paper because I "did not write what he wanted me to write about," I went to the Dean and filed a complaint. Got my money back, then got the boring dude (you know the rest, above).


Yeah, I would LOVE to bust this prof -- I'll just have to keep looking to see what I can find. There's gotta be another way to get info on him, I'm sure.

[kate]

Sure -- he interacts with people "different" than him all the time (he will be 16 in March). We are not isolationists, despite what anyone may think. My point was that he should not have to be forced to receive an "education" from a professor who has an OBVIOUS bias against a certian segment of the student population who might attend his class.

Well, I get your point but you know what? I think that THAT FORCE is actually what the majority of us experienced and made us the people we are. We did not let them bring us down and it made us grow. I think that if my teachers at college wouldn't have been such dumbasses I wouldn't have had any clue about how manipulative our schools can be.

I've been to private schools all my life and never really experienced much of a liberal education except for 2 new teachers that started at my high school when I was in my last year, who thought it would be their job to introduce us to liberal thoughts in an enforcing way. Cost them their jobs one year later as far as I am informed. (Also, the teacher who started to cheat on his wife with another teacher from our school got thrown out straight away.) But I'm going off topic here. If I hadn't experienced the conflict between my conservative thoughts and these extreme liberal points of view in college I wouldn't have seen the reason to interact as clearly as I do after that experience.

If this teacher does interact against the conservative part of the classes then this is where your son and the other kids can see what liberals are like. They experience, first hand, to stand up for themselves and their opinion. They learn how important their own principles are to themselves and how important it is to not give up on something just to "be part of the party"...

Social contacts are important. But, I think if it's the same situation as on my old college, then he can quite happily save his time for more important social contacts. Majority of students are just too immature to be a very important part of ones life. lol As odd as it sounds, but I really believe that lol

I bet your son will do well though and have a good time all in all. Just tell him to focus on those things out of the teachers mouth that don't smell like BS... :) Wish you all the best!

[Riverboat]

"We here at SFCC are dedicated to a providing and promoting an atmosphere of tolerance and diversity at our school. HMPH! If I didn't already know you're in Florida, I'd swear you were at a program sponsored by San Francisco Community College.

. . . your child may be exposed to some different social ideas than what might be present in your small educational community. . . DUH! Isn't that what usually happens at college? Sounds to me like he's confusing ideas with lifestyles. As in . . . oh, you know. Like San Francisco.

We will not tolerate those who are not able to cooperate with this philosophy,. . . Well, here's everything in a nutshell you need to know about liberals: They don't care what you do as long as it's compulsory.