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FMeekins
03-02-2005, 04:49 PM
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<p>A teacher at <A HREF="http://www.theoaklandpress.com/stories/022605/loc_20050226006.shtml">Rochester Hills Christian Academy</A> has been accused of firing a pellet gun at his students in an attempt to restore order to his classroom.
<p>And from what I remember of the way these Christian schools are run, the parents will probably get a good tongue-lashing about not submitting to the superior God-given authority of the teacher for complaining about the incident.
<p>Nothing like this ever occurred where I attended, but on one occasion I remember my parents coming home from a Parent/Teacher Fellowship meeting shocked the pastor uncategorically announced that the teachers were always right and that all students were to think, look, and act alike.
<p>Often whereas discipline is too lax in contemporary state educational institutions, it goes to the other extreme many times in these private alternatives.
<p>For example, often where I attended if graffiti or some other infraction of the rules occurred in the boys restroom, usage of the facilities would be restricted to certain times of the day with the principal positioned in the room keeping his eye on those using the urinal. Needless to say, if you didn't happen to jostle your way into the stall with a bit more privacy there was a number of days you'd go home with a bladder about ready to burst.
<p>Nor can I forget how you were made to feel like a second class believer for failing to sell the proscribed number of candy bars in those Ponziesque fundraisers schools are always getting duped into participating in. Often the hucksters promoting these drives would work the students into a frenzy with the inducements of prizes. Administrators lamented how they wished the high schoolers would get as worked up as the elementary kids; frankly, if young people are still that naive by their teenage years, you have failed as an educator.
<p>Sure, it beat public school, but it was hardly the peachy experience you hear from the propaganda on Christian radio. Such schools are merely the benign reflection of the stifling monopoly plaguing American education today.
<p>Copyright 2005 by Frederick Meekins
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HomeschoolrsRUs
03-02-2005, 10:06 PM
Considering that many parents of ill-behaved, troubled children opt for "Christian" private school, or private schools in general, I hardly believe this is much of an issue, compared to public school teachers having sex with their students.
Private schools have a hard time "discriminating" when enrolling children in their programs. Many parents who choose private schooling face the real probability that even though their child(ren) are good little boys and girls, they will most likely be going to school with delinquents who have either been booted out of public school or moved from public school by parents who want to put their unruly offspring in a good "Christian" environment to straighten them out.
I can hardly blame the private school(s) for being much stricter than the government schools, for these very reasons. Of course I am not advocating the use of pellet guns in school, nor am I a proponent of private school tyrannical rule. However, if one chooses to send/enroll their student in a private education facility (and in fact are PAYING for it), it would behoove them to investigate the school, their rules, and their adherence policies PRIOR to enrollment.
Of course, I may be considered speaking out-of-turn, since my husband and I chose neither a government (public) school, Christian school, nor private school education for my children -- we picked the narrower road.
FMeekins
03-03-2005, 05:45 AM
In the area in which I live (the highly godless Washington DC area) after the elementary level there are very few Christian high schools to select from nearby so the situation that results is protomonopolistic and I think the Christian schools would be better if there was more of a selection.
While I admire the dedication of homeschool parents and awed by the academic accomplishments of their offspring, I would note I grew up when the option was not as widespread and do not know if I would have wanted that one either because if I had I imagine I would be an even bigger recluse than I am today. This comment should in no way be seen as impinging on any one else's decision to homeschool but merely reflection on my own circumstances.
The entire shape of the educational landscape is certainly enough to make the individual not to want to have children.
Frederick
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So Meek, I guess your premise is one asshat teacher means all Christian schools are bad?
FMeekins
03-03-2005, 09:04 AM
No, just newsworthy and as a venue through which to prompt reflection. If you study the corpus of my work you will find I have socked it to the public schools much more frequently.
HomeschoolrsRUs
03-03-2005, 01:09 PM
In the area in which I live (the highly godless Washington DC area) after the elementary level there are very few Christian high schools to select from nearby so the situation that results is protomonopolistic and I think the Christian schools would be better if there was more of a selection.
Most assuredly this is true, however, the schools themselves cannot be blamed because there are not more schools to choose from. Certainly increased parental involvement within the private school system, also would produce a more positive environment, I would think. I am familiar with this plight, as there are very few Christian private schools available in my area as well, and they are priced so out of our family's budget, which had much to do with our decision to homeschool.
While I admire the dedication of homeschool parents and awed by the academic accomplishments of their offspring, I would note I grew up when the option was not as widespread
I can definitely understand, however homeschooling has been around a lot longer than many people are aware of. The brave souls who courageously faced down school boards and truancy officers paved the way for a freedom many now enjoy and take for granted.
and do not know if I would have wanted that one either because if I had I imagine I would be an even bigger recluse than I am today.
One has to be careful of the coulda-woulda-shoulda syndrome, most certainly, but it is my belief that homeschool students are generally better acclimated to the world than not. Of course, who's to say how it would have been for me if I would have been homeschooled at a time when it wasn't the "craze" it is today. I can only think that had my parents been part of the homeschool revolution, I might be even MORE outspoken and involved than I am now with my community and world. Oh well, we ALL know hindsight is 20/20.
This comment should in no way be seen as impinging on any one else's decision to homeschool but merely reflection on my own circumstances.
No offense taken, at least not by me.
The entire shape of the educational landscape is certainly enough to make the individual not to want to have children.
Absotively and posilutely, I agree with this statement 100% percent.
FMeekins
03-04-2005, 11:49 AM
From what I remember, many of the teachers and administrators had a "and where else are you going to go mentality" and like many churches they were rather cliquish in what parents they deemed worthy of taking advice from.
PrezLeefun
03-04-2005, 12:24 PM
so much for being christrian.
HomeschoolrsRUs
03-04-2005, 12:59 PM
From what I remember, many of the teachers and administrators had a "and where else are you going to go mentality" and like many churches they were rather cliquish in what parents they deemed worthy of taking advice from.
Then, as a school, I wouldn't deem them good enough for my children, and that would be that.
I do not believe, however, the majority of Christian private schools are that way. One must remember, however, as a private institution, it is their right to run their school as they see fit. That does not mean I agree with the way they run it. Again, that is one of the reasons we chose to avoid BOTH the government (public) and private school systems.
HomeschoolrsRUs
03-04-2005, 09:38 PM
A teacher at Rochester Hills Christian Academy (http://www.theoaklandpress.com/stories/022605/loc_20050226006.shtml) has been accused of firing a pellet gun at his students in an attempt to restore order to his classroom.
FM,
Just so you know it's not JUST Christian private schools who have these types of problems:
Broward Officials Investigate Alleged Knife Incident
PARKLAND, Fla. -- Broward County officials say a high school teacher in Parkland did have a knife in class. Now school investigators have to determine exactly what she did with it.
School district spokesman Joe Donzelli says Lynn Deering has been reassigned pending the outcome of the investigation.
Deering teaches anatomy and physiology to juniors and seniors at Marjorie Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland.
The students told school administrators that Deering showed them a knife during Wednesday's class and then plunged it into a stack of papers on a student's desk.
Donzelli says they don't have all the specifics but that they've determined Deering may not have used the knife appropriately.
The rest of this article found here: WSVN-TV - Miami - News (http://www1.wsvn.com/news/articles/local/C70314/)
FMeekins
03-04-2005, 10:17 PM
I know. I have written far more about public schools during my writing career.
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