Is it a Moon or a Death Star??

[Large_Al]

Moon with a View: (http://www.enterprisemission.com/moon3.htm)

(http://www.enterprisemission.com/moon3.htm)

Or, What Did Arthur Know … and When Did He Know it? (http://www.enterprisemission.com/moon3.htm)





Click on link and read this if you dare!!

[FBetts]

I sence a disturbance in the force...wait...no...its indigestion

[whipple]

Can somebody summarise what this web site is trying to say. As my head is spinning from the charts and figures.
Are they saying Iapetus is artificial? :question:

[whipple]

It's like something out of Arthur C Clarkes 2001.

Doh, just got it. It is about Arthur. LOL

[Large_Al]

I think what they are saying is that one of the moons of saturn (the planet not the car co.) Is a death star.

[DoctorDoom]

This is from NASA's APOD site.

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0502/iapetus_cassini.jpg

Explanation: What has happened to Saturn's moon Iapetus? A strange ridge crosses the moon near the equator, visible near the bottom of the above image, making Iapetus appear similar to the pit of a peach. Half of Iapetus is so dark that it can nearly disappear when viewed from Earth. Recent observations show that the degree of darkness of the terrain is strangely uniform, like a dark coating was somehow recently applied to an ancient and highly cratered surface. The other half of Iapetus is relatively bright but oddly covered with long and thin streaks of dark. A 400-kilometer wide impact basin is visible near the image center, delineated by deep scarps that drop sharply to the crater floor. The above image was taken by the Saturn-orbiting Cassini spacecraft during a flyby of Iapetus at the end of last year.Saturn's Iapetus: Moon with a Strange Surface (http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap050201.html)

Draw your own conclusions.

BTW, 2001 involved Jupiter, not Saturn.

[FBetts]

Ah, it makes alot more sence if you start from the BIGGINING, wich is http://www.enterprisemission.com/moon1.htm , your link started at page 3.

Its still totaly crazy when you read it from the start, but its more logicaly crazy...errr..never mind

[tacitus]

Interesting, but the moon looks like a liberals brain, full of holes.

[UnkHiram]

I thought it was a Cylon Base Star from Battlestar Galactica. I am fairly sure that is where Elvis and JFK are hiding. I know that because I had a tracking device in the Toaster Oven that Elvis took from me.

[DesertFox]

That's a grease spot on some liberal's ass.

[ThomasMore]

Richard Hoagland has made a career of spinning detailed nonsense.

[whipple]

Saturn's Iapetus: Moon with a Strange Surface (http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap050201.html)

Draw your own conclusions.

BTW, 2001 involved Jupiter, not Saturn.

Arthur C Clarkes 2001 a Space Oddysey was to Saturn. 2010 was written with Jupiter. I think you may be confusing the movie with the book.
Read the article from page 1 and you'll see what I meant.

[DoctorDoom]

I didn't read the book. In the film, the monolith was orbiting Jupiter. Why?

In the book, 2001, the mission was supposed to go to Saturn, to the odd moon Iapetus in fact. In the book, The Making of 2001, we find that the people who made the movie chose to go to Jupiter instead, because they couldn't build a convincing model of Saturn. About the same time, the movie Silent Running had a wonderful model of Saturn.A Mistake in 2001, a Space Odyssey? (http://www.jimloy.com/movie/2001.htm)

I am now properly informed. That's one fewer in the small list of things that I don't know. :D

[whipple]

Having read the full article I've decided that Arthur C Clarke was/is without a doubt the most amazing Sci-fi author ever. I've always loved his work but this is kinda spookily coincidental.
I think it would be great if the first evidence of extra-testical life was where the man credited with inventing communication satellites said it would be.
Life on mars is just sooo Orson Welles. Life around Saturn is where its at.

[MSGT]

HOLY-SMOLEY they got extra-testical life.:blush: :blush: :blush: :blush:

[whipple]

HOLY-SMOLEY they got extra-testical life.:blush: :blush: :blush: :blush:

Yea, it's a pity they're not near Uranus.....

*Crickets Chirping*

:D

[DesertFox]

If the theory of evolution means anything in our universe, we'll find life on Mars before we find it anywhere else -- unless it finds us first.

[DoctorDoom]

If we find life ANYWHERE other than here, abiogenesis is dead. It was impossible once. More than once is impossible to the power of infinity. Personally, I believe that the universe is teeming with life. It's a big place, and my God wouldn't limit Himself to life here. And considering some of the bizarre life forms that exist on this little blue marble, the possibilities are almost limitless.

"Sometimes I think we're alone in the universe, and sometimes I think we're not. In either case the idea is quite staggering."
-- Arthur C. Clarke

[DoctorDoom]

HOLY-SMOLEY they got extra-testical life.Well, it takes a lot of balls to become space-farers. Unfortunately, America lost its balls when the Columbia was lost. I doubt that we'll see a major recommitment to space exploration in our lifetimes.

[whipple]

If we find life ANYWHERE other than here, abiogenesis is dead. It was impossible once. More than once is impossible to the power of infinity. Personally, I believe that the universe is teeming with life. It's a big place, and my God wouldn't limit Himself to life here. And considering some of the bizarre life forms that exist on this little blue marble, the possibilities are almost limitless.

"Sometimes I think we're alone in the universe, and sometimes I think we're not. In either case the idea is quite staggering."
-- Arthur C. Clarke

I've got a better quote for you...

"Sometimes I think that the surest sign of intelligent life elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us." - Calvin 'The Authoritive Calvin & Hobbes'

I love calvin & hobbes :thumb:

[whipple]

Well, it takes a lot of balls to become space-farers. Unfortunately, America lost its balls when the Columbia was lost. I doubt that we'll see a major recommitment to space exploration in our lifetimes.

China, Russia and Japan seem to be growing rather large cajones if you ask me.

[DoctorDoom]

Probably "cojones", the Spanish word in general use.

It will take another boot in the ass to revitalize the US space program. We'd have done nothing if Sputnik's beeps from orbit didn't jar us from our lethargy. And when Yuri Gagarin orbited in April of 1961, the impetus was provided. The Apollo program resulted and the first footprints on the moon were from the American, Neil Armstrong.

Two shuttle failures later, America's resolve has been paralyzed. It's going to take a really big jolt to restart it.

[whipple]

If they discovered a chinese missile base on the moon or mars would that do it? Not that it's a likely scenario.
What do you suppose needs to be done to jump start it? I personally think that space travel is essential to our continued survival as a species. If we stay on Earth we will eventually become extinct.

[The_Sonarman]

"We" have gotten stuck in a deep rut flying near earth orbit shuttle missions. That is "safe" and appeals to NASA bureaucrats. At least, Russia has the dream to go to Mars which is the logical next step.

"Man" will go to the planets, and perhaps beyond. Unless we kick NASA out of it's lethargy, or out of the way, it probably won't be Americans.

[DoctorDoom]

It's partly NASA and partly liberals who think that NASA's paltry budget is still too much when there are votes that can be bought with handouts.

The awesome success of Spirit and Opportunity (http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/home/) demonstrates that America CAN do wondrous things. However, two shuttles accidents sprayed icewater on America's passion for manned exploration. It's an idiotic response, obviously. Envision ending air travel after two plane crashes, or sea voyages after two sinkings.

Ultimately, man WILL leave this little blue world and walk on the Moon again, and on Mars, and perhaps one day on planets light years away. First, however, it's necessary to rekindle the fire of curiosity and adventure, and as long as sucking up to dependency class leeches is more important than exploring the Final Frontier, that won't happen.

[iFocusNews.com]

That link looks scary, I think I'ma just stay put right here...

[g21lto]

So just how many of those pesky things did Palpatine have around?

Need a spare Death Star or two for whenever the Alliance gets cocky, I guess.