Teen girls' Bible talks of oral sex, lesbianism

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TESTING THE FAITH
Teen girls' Bible talks of oral sex, lesbianism
Critic says publication smears 'filthy graffiti across the Word of God'

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Posted: March 18, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern

By Ron Strom
© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com
A Bible created especially for girls age 13-16 that includes profiles of fictional teenagers discussing oral sex, lesbianism and "dream" guys is drawing sharp criticism from some Christian parents who say such material should not appear alongside Scripture.

The "True Images" Bible (http://trueimagesbible.com/), published by Zondervan, promises on its dustcover to "strengthen your relationship with God, family, friends and guys."

While the book includes the entire text of the New International Version of the Bible, it's the "over 1,000 relevant and compelling notes and articles" that have critics upset.

The "In Focus" profiles are peppered throughout the text of the Bible and deal with subjects like sex, pregnancy, alcoholism, dating, homosexuality, depression, pornography and flirting.

An introduction in the Bible explains its goal: to present to young girls "true images": "God's message about who you are in his eyes."

The "In Focus" article on sex appears amidst scriptural regulations on offerings in the book of Leviticus. It profiles the fictional girl "Ashley" and is entitled "Casual or Not?"

While the message of the profile is to save sex for marriage, critics aren't convinced the frank-talk approach is appropriate for young teens.

Discussing her friend "Emma," Ashley says, "The story is that she had oral sex with a guy friend of ours last week. Just for fun. They're not dating, although they've always flirted with each other a lot. Emma took one look at my face this morning, and she knew I knew."

Emma goes on to claim that oral sex "is not even sex," but Ashley disagrees, saying, "God's definition of sexual purity covers much more than intercourse."

Following Ashley's narrative is a warning that "the physical and emotional effects of oral sex are similar to intercourse," along with tips for dealing with friends who are engaging in the practice.

'Am I Gay?'

Another "In Focus" story highlights the experience of "Trish" in "Am I Gay?"

Says Trish: "All my friends are wondering if this guy or that guy likes them. I don't like any guys right now. Instead, I wonder if I have a crush on Sierra. She's one of my best friends."

Trish goes on to explain that her uncle tried to rape her when she was 12 and that ever since, "I haven't wanted any guy to touch me – not even my dad."

The follow-up warning to Trish's story directs the reader to read Romans 1:24-32, in which Paul condemns homosexual behavior.

Wedged into the pages of the book of Jeremiah is a profile by "Lorraine," in which she discusses finding Playboy and Penthouse magazines belonging to her father in the basement.

"I couldn't believe it when I found the box. Those horrible magazines!" Lorraine says.

"I couldn't even look at my dad after I found it. … My dad's a Christian! Yet he's got this porn stash. It's like he's got this secret life."

The feature then advises girls in Lorraine's situation to "talk with a trusted Christian adult about the issue. Pray together, and come up with a plan for what to do next."

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[PrezLeefun]

you know what, this is a good thing. kids need to have clear understanding of what God expects from us. Being frank about the real world, and real sin is not wrong.

[Goku]

I don't see what the problem is?

[Rink]

I do not think this is an appropriate thing to be given to kids UNLESS it was titled as such, but to couch it as a teen bible is sneaking garbage under the rader and past parents to kids who would have been protected from this trash had some parents not checked everything their kids read, in other words this material in a teen bible is HIGHLY innapropriate for underage kids.

Unless otherwise openly stated.

and it was not openly stated.

Hence my suspicion the talk on teen sex, condoms, lesbianism and such is pro- not con.

[GrocerySacker]

Yeah, how dare those morons try to educate young girls on issues like oral sex, which they will be facing in high school?

It would be a much better idea to let the girls discover these things by their own devices.

[Rink]

Scuse me but that is the issue and right of the parent to do, NOT a book company who sneaks this garbage under the radar behind the parents backs.

And For YOUR information many a Public school ALREADY addresses these things, so why go do an end-run around Christian parents backs for unless of course its to turn their children away from Christian teachings and morality by hook and crook ?

[GrocerySacker]

Scuse me but that is the issue and right of the parent to do, NOT a book company who sneaks this garbage under the radar behind the parents backs.

If a parent doesn't take the time to skim through a book that they are buying for their child to live their life by, then they probably aren't going to be worried by a blow-job discussion or two.

[EDIT] Just in case I didn't make myself clear enough. My point is that this publishing company has the right to publish whatever they damn-well please. It's the parents' responsibility to filter out the *bad* in a child's life.

[Rink]

Excuse me once more but these are strong Christian families they WILL take the time to teach their children otherwise, they are not like the slacker parents of kids who do not have the strong Christian family ties that these kids who WANT to read the bible do.

Your argument is a poor excuse again to do an end-run around parents.

Why the heck dont the book company just print and promote a 'sexual awareness book for teens instead?

Instead of putting this stuff in a teen bible, sneaking that garbage under the radar behind parents backs.

No, this was a dirty underhanded way of 'teaching kids sexual mores that should never have been put in a Bible to begin with.

PS: the publishing company should not have a right to desescrate a Bible with filth such as that inbetween bible passages, like Oral sex and lesbianism.

Scuse me if I barf but that is completely and totally Incompatible with good moral teachings the bible teaches.

[Apollo5600]

Considering that kids at younger and younger ages are being bombarded by sex 24/7 (from tv, friends, etc) it is fair to say this "Bible" will not skrew up their minds more than it already is!

The follow-up warning to Trish's story directs the reader to read Romans 1:24-32, in which Paul condemns homosexual behavior.

That is a good thing. While I am under the opinion most of the stuff in there is going to be braindead (Personality tests so you can know who your dream date is??) I don't think it will encourage them to do those sins (infact I think it will discourage them!). However, I also believe it is better if the kids don't read it (as in oral sex, lesbianism, not the Bible which they need to read) and the Parent sit there and explain to them about Homosexuality rather than have the book do it.

I also think they shouldn't be reading the NIV anyway, the KJV is superior.

[PrezLeefun]

Rink most kids dont even consider oral sex to be sex. Better they hear about it in a bible than in school.

[Rink]

Sorry but for me the topic its a no-no, especially in a Bible directed at kids, so I guess you can call me an ol fuddy-duddy now :D

[Rink]

Oh and as for kids being bombarded 24/7, there's ways of stopping that, toss the TV, get rid of the Radio and throw out the papers and magazines and start homeschooling your kids and they wont be as 'bombarded' as kids in the public schools are.

And for that case kids in Public schools are More bombarded Because public schools continuate that bombardment by 'teaching' the immoral points of sex education without morality in the equation or 'Celibacy' being taught as an alternative.

[Apollo5600]

Oh and as for kids being bombarded 24/7, there's ways of stopping that, toss the TV, get rid of the Radio and throw out the papers and magazines and start homeschooling your kids and they wont be as 'bombarded' as kids in the public schools are.

And for that case kids in Public schools are More bombarded Because public schools continuate that bombardment by 'teaching' the immoral points of sex education without morality in the equation or 'Celibacy' being taught as an alternative.

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[Riverboat]

. . . without morality in the equation or 'Celibacy' being taught as an alternative.I think the word chastity would fit better in your argument.

Sounds to me like this is a more in-your-face Bible designed for studying the Scriptures. Kids need direction, no doubt about that. Parents who are squeamish about the topics (count me among them) might consider this because the acts are enumerated and condemned in no uncertain terms, just as St. Paul did.

It ain't for everyone.

[PrezLeefun]

im with ya River

[adstrinity]

ZONDERVAN did this? *sad*

Wow. ....Wow....*sad* Yeah, this is wrong....Kids will not think about these things unless given an opportunity TO think about them. I hope that ALL Christians will agree on this, but, as a Catholic, this is at least an occasion for sin. THIS may lead down a slippery slope, as, yes, they know it's wrong, BUT, now they are thinking about it more & more....MEANING, they are not thinking about their relationship with Jesus & what He wants us to do... Seriously, this is something the devil would do in a covert underhanded way to point the focus elsewhere than God, I think. DON'T MAKE THEM THINK ABOUT THIS STUFF!!

[PrezLeefun]

ZONDERVAN did this? *sad*

Wow. ....Wow....*sad* Yeah, this is wrong....Kids will not think about these things unless given an opportunity TO think about them. I hope that ALL Christians will agree on this, but, as a Catholic, this is at least an occasion for sin. THIS may lead down a slippery slope, as, yes, they know it's wrong, BUT, now they are thinking about it more & more....MEANING, they are not thinking about their relationship with Jesus & what He wants us to do... Seriously, this is something the devil would do in a covert underhanded way to point the focus elsewhere than God, I think. DON'T MAKE THEM THINK ABOUT THIS STUFF!!

b.s. these kids are constantly having sex being thrown in thier faces. Better they hear about it from the bible than at school, music, and TV shows. Most kids dont think oral sex is sex. most kids dont think anal sex is sex. Kids dont think you can pregnant your first time, and they dont think you can get sick from oral sex. They think it is casual, and normal to be sexually active at young ages.

10, 9, 8. Yep those are some of the ages i have heard of kids having sex: consenualy with thier peers. I say give them the guilt trip of thier life to keep them from having sex before they adults.

[adstrinity]

b.s. these kids are constantly having sex being thrown in thier faces. Better they hear about it from the bible than at school, music, and TV shows. Most kids dont think oral sex is sex. most kids dont think anal sex is sex. Kids dont think you can pregnant your first time, and they dont think you can get sick from oral sex. They think it is casual, and normal to be sexually active at young ages.

10, 9, 8. Yep those are some of the ages i have heard of kids having sex: consenualy with thier peers. I say give them the guilt trip of thier life to keep them from having sex before they adults.

I do not agree. It's best that they make the first move and come to their parent's for answers. DO NOT GIVE A CHILD A REASON TO SIN!!! I agree that they are bombarded with sexual images, jokes, and advances. I was one of them years ago & looking back at it. All that, "Most kids don't think oral....at young ages," is very sad, but, as we both know, not untrue. I blame that on the public schools (duh), BUT, this is NOT for what a Bible should be preaching. Yes, the Scripture does say all this is wrong, but, I must adhere to, LET THE CHILD MAKE THE FIRST MOVE!!! Do NOT bombard them with more ways to let them think about sex. I must agree with you about the guilt trip. ...Minors having sex...well, we all know this is part of Planned Barenhood's evil agenda, that doesn't mean that we should have a Bible out there that further mentions sex sex sex, even if it's against it. It's like the psychological trick, (example), you do not want to tell your son "Don't keep hitting your sister" because all he will hear is "Keep hitting your sister", tell him instead to go outside and play...get his mind OFF of his current goal. Kids that young should not be thinking about sex as such. It's sad. And, on a related topic, but, vering off course, of course minors will have sex...have you SEEN the clothes they have for children? Writting on the breast & butt of the shirt and pants/shorts for an 8 year old? WHY???!!! :angry:

[PrezLeefun]

ads: Parents dont talk to their kids. they need an outlet that will. This is a good one.

[adstrinity]

ads: Parents dont talk to their kids.

:Crying:

Do you think that the parent's who don't talk to their kids read & promote the values & teachings of The Bible?

[PrezLeefun]

So many claim to. But yet they are too "ashamed" to discuss such things and then think they can put it off.

You should watch She's Too Young. It is a great movie discussing this very topic. It is not exxagerated at all.

[Riverboat]

Reading Wyatt's posts today reminded me that I haven't read any of the demented ramblings of Near Dead Ted lately. I found this comment I think everyone will agree is dead-on accurate:


"Many teenagers do not consider oral sex to be sex...not often does a President get to live to see his legacy fulfilled...whoa dude...you can stick a made from recycled material fork in that..."