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Shadow
03-31-2005, 12:39 PM
<TABLE cellPadding=5 width=800 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD width=650><!-- #BeginEditable "Title" -->Rock 'n' Roll, Satanism, and Our Children

By Fr. Paul O'Callaghan
</TD><TD vAlign=bottom align=right width=117><!-- #BeginEditable "Picture" --><!-- #EndEditable --></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=2></TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#ffffff colSpan=2>The subject of rock ‘n’ roll has been controversial and a source of conflict between parents and children ever since it first appeared on the scene in the mid 1950’s. When Elvis Presley performed on the Ed Sullivan Show for the first time in 1956, the cameras only showed him from the waist up, because adults were offended by the way he shook his hips. The kids loved it!

When the Beatles arrived in the mid 1960’s, parents were shocked again this time by the mop-top haircuts. But young people were swept away by the infectious enthusiasm of their music. After the Beatles, more shocks were in store as groups like the Rolling Stones and the Animals popularized a more coarse, gritty, and vulgar style of blues-influenced rock.

Still later, the psychedelic explosion brought new controversy to the world of rock. Bands such as the Jefferson Airplane and the Grateful Dead openly lived a hippie lifestyle and freely admitted to the use of drugs like marijuana and LSD. This was a new source of alarm for parents as young people adopted hippie ways and the abuse of drugs became epidemic. In the twenty years that have followed, rock ‘n’ rollers have continued to try to keep the shock waves coming with the violent aggressiveness of “heavy metal” rock, the open rebellion of “punk” rock, and music advocating sexual promiscuity, homosexuality, drug abuse, and finally, Satanism, the worship of the devil.


However, one thing has changed over the 30+ years of rock history. People aren’t shocked much anymore. Parents aren’t alarmed much anymore. Rock ‘n’ rollers are still putting in a mighty effort to keep the shocks coming, but the fact is that rock has become accepted in our society. Rock music that I would have considered radical when I was a teenager is now commonly heard on commercials. Even an old rocker like Eric Clapton, who spearheaded the group “Cream” in the 60’s, is shown playing live on a beer commercial on T.V. Many parents are now content to keep their kids quiet by letting them stay glued to MTV at home.


The question for us is, how should we, as Orthodox Christians, and especially, as Orthodox parents, approach the subject of rock ‘n’ roll? Should we be in a continual state of alarm? Should we, as some preachers and churches do, condemn rock as evil, forbid our children to listen to any of it, and burn the records or tapes we might have? Or should we simply accept rock? Should we just figure our children are good Orthodox young people and music can’t have any bad effect on them?


How about “none of the above” for an answer?


Continued here: http://www.orthodoxresearchinstitute.org/articles/family/ocallaghan_rock_n_roll.htm

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HomeschoolrsRUs
04-01-2005, 09:15 AM
Shadow,

Excellent article, thank you for posting it. Actually, though, I didn't need it to know the effect/influence music, and particularly "rock" music has on a child -- I got all the proof I needed when my precious ones were little. I can remember being incredibly exhausted one morning, and resorted to a parent's typical crutch, placing the tots in front of the tube for a little parental respite. They were watching an innocuous little show, were quiet and satisfied ... until the COMMERCIALS came on. The first commercial had a "rock" song as it's background sound -- as soon as it began, my tykes got up from their pleasant position of repose, and began jumping around like little banshees, banging their toys on the table to the beat, and uttering noises (I guess they thought they were "singing"). Needless to say, off went the telly, and their attentions were re-directed to more constructive activities.

We do know that the great deceiver has been given a certain dominion over the airwaves. It only reasons that he would use them to his advantage whenever possible. Parents, guard your children's eyes, ears, and hearts -- the job falls on no other's shoulders, as they were given to you as blessings from above. Make sure you are good stewards of that He has entrusted to you.

whipple
04-01-2005, 09:23 AM
What music would you suggest as an alternative?

HomeschoolrsRUs
04-01-2005, 10:28 AM
What music would you suggest as an alternative?

As you have not specified, whom are you addressing ... the author of the article (rhetorically), the originator of the initial post, or myself as a respondent to the original post?

jag
04-01-2005, 10:40 AM
What music would you suggest as an alternative?

In our house we really don't listen to lots of music.

The kids are all in band, and luckily (or maybe not) thats what we listen to most of the time or talk radio.

It's just too uncmfortable having to expain some of the stupid lyrics. And there is nothing cute in my opinion about a little girl singing and dancing trying to act like some tart like Brittany Spears etc...

Although RUSH is always good.:D

whipple
04-01-2005, 10:44 AM
What about christian rock? Surely thats okay?

jag
04-01-2005, 10:46 AM
Don't care for it, but thats just me.

Incident_command
04-01-2005, 01:42 PM
Try a group called Third Day. Excellent music with a great message.

mabzie
04-01-2005, 01:49 PM
I don't think I could live without Rock n' Roll...

Wolfcounsel
04-01-2005, 05:49 PM
What did a certain church's bulletin board say?


TODAY"S SERMON

Do you know what Hell is?

Come in and listen to our new organist



And I'll bet he didn't play any rock and roll there.

PrezLeefun
04-01-2005, 07:40 PM
I love rock music, not all of it advocates Devil worship, drug use andd sexual promiscutiy. One of my favorite bands is Linkin Park and they are pretty clean. Most mainstream rock bands nowadays are. Its the hardcore, underground metal that has most of the junk.
Also there is HANSON, yes the mmm-bop boys. They are a really great rock band and they dont have anything even remotely nasty, or un-Godly in any way. Look at them they are beautiful! All of their albums are perfect for the rocker that wants clean real music. And they are Christian, in mind that is perfect.

CzechPrince
04-03-2005, 09:49 PM
I listen to punk, emo, hardcore, and what I started listening to as my first music: Grunge. Nirvana was my first favorite band and they will always have a spot in my heart, but I do love classic Rock as well, such as the The Velvet Underground, Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, and Hendrix.

Here is a pretty good list of the bands I listen to, IN ALPHABETICAL order except for, "HIM" they are my favorite band and so they are first :) See if any of the bands you like are in here, as I said I love Classic Rock too. It is basically a bunch of Punk, Hardcore, Emo, Grunge, Alternative, and Classic:

HIM ,A Static Lullaby, Adara, AFI, American Hi-Fi, Anti-Flag, At the Drive In, As I Lay Dying, Atreyu, Avenged Sevenfold, Bright Eyes, Brand New, Bush, Casualties, Circa Survive, Coheed and Cambria, Cursive, Darkest Hour, Dead Kennedy's, Death Cab for Cutie, Desaparecidos, Deftones, Foo Fighters, Get up Kids, Head Automatica, Hot Water Music, Incubus, Led Zeppelin, Matchbook Romance, Minor Threat, My Chemical Romance, Nirvana, Norma Jean, Pink Floyd, Poison The Well, Radiohead, Rage Against the Machine, Raised Fist, Rise Against, Rolling Stones, Sex Pistols, Silverchair, Soundgarden, Sparta, Stone Temple Pilots, Strike Anywhere, Taking Back Sunday, The Doors, The Explosion, The Mars Volta, The Postal Service, The Shins, The Strokes, The Used, The Vines, Thrice, Thursday, Underoath, Velvet Revolver, Velvet Underground, Waiting for Tommorrow, White Stripes,

Wyatt_Junker
04-04-2005, 01:05 AM
Have you heard the new Beck album???

CzechPrince
04-04-2005, 01:16 AM
No, I have not. Is it good? I don't listen to them to much but I am always willing to try out new bands...

whipple
04-04-2005, 02:27 AM
I listen to punk, emo, hardcore, and what I started listening to as my first music: Grunge. Nirvana was my first favorite band and they will always have a spot in my heart, but I do love classic Rock as well, such as the The Velvet Underground, Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, and Hendrix.

Here is a pretty good list of the bands I listen to, IN ALPHABETICAL order except for, "HIM" they are my favorite band and so they are first :) See if any of the bands you like are in here, as I said I love Classic Rock too. It is basically a bunch of Punk, Hardcore, Emo, Grunge, Alternative, and Classic:

HIM ,A Static Lullaby, Adara, AFI, American Hi-Fi, Anti-Flag, At the Drive In, As I Lay Dying, Atreyu, Avenged Sevenfold, Bright Eyes, Brand New, Bush, Casualties, Circa Survive, Coheed and Cambria, Cursive, Darkest Hour, Dead Kennedy's, Death Cab for Cutie, Desaparecidos, Deftones, Foo Fighters, Get up Kids, Head Automatica, Hot Water Music, Incubus, Led Zeppelin, Matchbook Romance, Minor Threat, My Chemical Romance, Nirvana, Norma Jean, Pink Floyd, Poison The Well, Radiohead, Rage Against the Machine, Raised Fist, Rise Against, Rolling Stones, Sex Pistols, Silverchair, Soundgarden, Sparta, Stone Temple Pilots, Strike Anywhere, Taking Back Sunday, The Doors, The Explosion, The Mars Volta, The Postal Service, The Shins, The Strokes, The Used, The Vines, Thrice, Thursday, Underoath, Velvet Revolver, Velvet Underground, Waiting for Tommorrow, White Stripes,

Most of those are on my list too :thumb:

PrezLeefun
04-04-2005, 05:57 AM
ditto on that.

Riverboat
04-04-2005, 09:03 AM
What music would you suggest as an alternative?How about Gregorian Chant? ;)

You should give Bach and Mozart a whirl.

whipple
04-04-2005, 09:14 AM
How about Gregorian Chant? ;)

You should give Bach and Mozart a whirl.

I recently purchased a 40 CD classics collection which I now think is by far one of the best value purchases I've ever made. To say I'm all bach'd out would be an understatement. I now no longer have visual dreams, I simply dream in organ tones. :D

On that topic, if anyone has an interest in rock fused with classical then give the Metallica S&M concert a whirl. As a Metallic fan I was going to like it anyway but with the San Francisco Philharmonic orchestra and conductor Michael Kamen in the mix it ranks as my favourite concert DVD of all time.

Riverboat
04-04-2005, 11:01 AM
Rock fused with classical? Believe Emerson, Lake and Palmer were the pioneers there.

CzechPrince
04-04-2005, 01:57 PM
I love Gregorian Medieval Chants...