Teacher Charged With Molesting Student Nearly 100 Times

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

Teacher Charged With Molesting Student Nearly 100 Times

POSTED:</TEXT> 6:47 am EDT April 25, 2005

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COCOA, Fla. -- Hundreds of students and teachers at Endeavour Elementary School in Brevard County are walking on campus Monday for the first time since learning of disturbing allegations against an instructor.


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Cocoa police arrested a veteran teacher over the weekend and charged him with molesting a student nearly 100 times.
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Daniel Cliatt, 29, is accused of a crime so heinous, for his first appearance deputies dressed him in a bulletproof vest. Wearing the vest with his hands shackled in front of him, Cliatt appeared before a judge for the first time Sunday, when he answered the judge's questions.


Cliatt is accused of raping a 13-year-old repeatedly after school, at school, every day for months.

The rest of this DISGUSTING story found here: WFTV.com - News - Teacher Charged With Molesting Student Nearly 100 Times (http://www.wftv.com/news/4411474/detail.html)



AGAIN, Florida! What is going on in my state? Sheesh!

[shawnwood]

Off with his head!

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

Off with his head*!

*BOTH of them!

[Riverboat]

According to the Brevard County School District, Cliatt passed every FBI and FDLE background check. Not anymore!

[Rink]

Um a question offhand, why the hell didnt the kid that was being raped SAY something? Talk to the parents etc?

Why did the kid stay silent????

Isnt that what counselors are there for?

Why didnt the kid talk to the parents?

WTH why the silence for so long?

[Bluemoon_Rising]

Fat, ugly bastard.

[Riverboat]

Why didnt the kid talk to the parents?
WTH why the silence for so long?Fear, most likely.

I can't speak for the kid, but I can draw from an experience I NEARLY had as a kid fresh out of junior HS. A coach had befriended me and immediately began treating me like a FRIEND. I was flattered, if that's the right word for a boy-turning-to-man, because I thought it was pretty neat for an adult to be treating me as another adult. I followed him to his apartment because a student instinctively TRUSTS another adult, particularly one with the authority of a teacher. The conversation got a little creepy, but I tried to put it out of my mind. There was that weird part when he showed me a large collection of Playboy and asked if I ever had a puppy licks my b***s while m**********g. I told him nnnnnnoooo! I would never know it was a set-up, a prelude for what he really wanted until a week later. In my mind, he was still like one of the guys, and guys my age talked kind of dirty, too.

He called my house a few times to ask if I was interested in going to a bar, so help me God, and try a Screwdriver. Did he mean that literally or metaphorically or whatever? A little voice in my head piped up to say, "NOT right. SOMETHING'S DEFINITELY NOT RIGHT." So in a roundabout way I suggested he not call any more.

What if I hadn't followed my instincts eventually? I shudder to imagine. Years later, I met another guy in high school who had the same near-experience, only scarier. Not long afterward, this same teacher wound up in the police beat for. . . well, take a wild guess.

Why didn't I tell my parents? Maybe it was pride. I guess I figured I could handle my own affairs (as it were) without any help.

[Rink]

With all the education and insistence that kids tell a parent, a teacher or a counselor when something like this happens, and they STILL stay silent, makes one wonder....

Glad you came out ok in that incident Riverboat.

[shawnwood]

Um a question offhand, why the hell didnt the kid that was being raped SAY something? Talk to the parents etc?

Why did the kid stay silent????

Isnt that what counselors are there for?

Why didnt the kid talk to the parents?

WTH why the silence for so long?

We probably do not know enough about the boy. Plus with his age there was a ton of fear. And the dude it like 360 lbs so he is a large man! I am sure that more kids then we know about goes through something like this and never tell out of fear.

[DesertFox]

Could also be that the kid liked it.

[Patriot Heart]

There is definitely such a thing as being too embarrassed and ashamed to tell an authority. As a 9th grader I attended an unsupervised "party" at a house where no parents were home. This was a fairly common thing among teens in our time. Basically it amounted to kids getting ahold of alcohol. I didn't drink at all, and went along to be with my friends. I was literally innocent enough to be in their barn, holding hands (only!) with my so called boyfriend. Suddenly he got up and left, and several boys, many from my Sunday school, started to attack me, trying to take off my clothes. I was not drunk as they expected, and fought like a tiger, and was thus able to escape essentially unharmed but partly undressed and very afraid. I DID NOT TELL MY MOTHER, who I was very close to, for YEARS. It makes me so mad in retropect, that I was somehow ashamed to tell about an assault on ME.

[PrezLeefun]

damn he oolgy! yep Homes off with both heads.

[RayChuang]

This type of scandal tells me that we maybe scratching the surface of a problem that could make the Catholic Church priest sex scandals seem like a minor (pun definitely intended here!) issue. :shame:

[Teenager]

This type of scandal tells me that we maybe scratching the surface of a problem that could make the Catholic Church priest sex scandals seem like a minor (pun definitely intended here!) issue. :shame:

RayChuang, I think you are absolutely right. If a kid starts telling the authorities, and the press gets ahold of it, another kid will do the same, and so on. Eventually, we will see this thing happens a lot. But, on the other hand, there might be kids who are lying about teachers too. This would be a serious preblem(both ways, if you know what I mean).

BTW, I think the reason the kid didn't say anything is because
(a) He was embarrased
(b) Or he didn't mind what was going on.

YUCK!!

[CzechPrince]

Riverboat, great story. That's somthing you could/can share with your kids/grandkids about safety.

This lardo deserves nothing less than the electric chair.

[Warlady]

Could also be that the kid liked it.

I can't believe you said that.

[Wyatt_Junker]

Could also be that the kid liked it.

Cliatt is accused of raping a 13-year-old repeatedly after school, at school, every day for months.


The guy looks like a cretin, but if the genders were reversed, it wouldn't be quite so abhorrent. I'm not saying I agree with it, but it is the disturbing culture of a double standard. Let's reverse the gender roles of the story(its not a stretch, its happening all the time, much to the media's official sanction). LaTreneau would marry the boy, they'd have kids, raise a family and go on 20/20 to a laughing Diane Sawyer interview, holding hands, kissing and telling us Americans we're all prudes.

I dunno WL. I think Jack's point has a shred of validity. Look at that quote. If someone is raped, to me that signifies a certain physicality, a holding the person down against their will etc. etc. We lob the 'rape' word at things like this because of the lack of mental development on the kid's part, but how does one go about such a ritual as this repeatedly, at school, every day for months on end without telling their parents about it or someone in authority if indeed it was coercion?

Perhaps it wasn't coercion. I agree its still repugnant, repulsive and should be labeled by society as 'rape', but perhaps the kid did like it, sick as it sounds. I just don't understand how things can go on like this for months and months and the pervo kid not be in on it.

[Peachdiane]

Until more info comes out I refuse to blame the victim. Pedophiles are MASTERS at choosing children they can intimidate and control. Shame and fear are powerful silencers. One of the lines is "You tell and I'll kill/have you killed...." Or "I'll make it so you flunk..." Or whatever.... And as has been said, the man is enormous.

We can thank NAMBLA and NEA. I remember where there was a teacher who was a member of NAMBLA. He openly taught that sex with kids was fine and dandy but the teachers' union would not allow him to be fired. Is it any wonder they are planning a termination hearing instead of firing him right on the spot?

[S-T]

Hold on just a minute.

What if he's not guilty?

We all have a bad habit of assuming guilt, but we need to be careful to to convict an innocent man. Remember Tawana Brawley? Cliatt is accused of raping a 13-year-old repeatedly after school, at school, every day for months. This raised a red flag for me. Every day? For months?

[Patriot Heart]

Authorities found a TON of hard care porn in this "teacher's" room..............he's guilty all right.

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

Hold on just a minute.

What if he's not guilty?

We all have a bad habit of assuming guilt, but we need to be careful to to convict an innocent man. Remember Tawana Brawley? This raised a red flag for me. Every day? For months?

S-T,
I don't think there's any doubt about his guilt . . .

From The Article,
"That didn't stop until, police say, another teacher walked into Cliatt's classroom Friday after school.


"At first, she walked in and didn't know what she was seeing. But she ran out and grabbed a supervisor," explained Detective Barbara Matthews, Cocoa Police Department."

He should be tried, tied, and fried, period.

[Wyatt_Junker]

Until more info comes out I refuse to blame the victim. Pedophiles are MASTERS at choosing children they can intimidate and control. Shame and fear are powerful silencers. One of the lines is "You tell and I'll kill/have you killed...." Or "I'll make it so you flunk..." Or whatever.... And as has been said, the man is enormous.



I agree. But how come none of this gets said when its a well-proportioned blonde haired, blue eyed teacher doing the extracurricular with her phillipino boy toy in the front row?

It just seems like we're missing something in the debate. Perhaps that door shouldn't be cracked at all, except that I know that young adults can be assholes as well as their 'mentors'. Who knows, perhaps he was just teaching what government public school proscribes, ie sex ed. It was lab day.

[Teenager]

He should be tried, tied, and fried, period.<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->

:claps:

[Patriot Heart]

Wyatt, female teachers ARE going to prison for these sorts of charges, I guess I don't get your meaning. I think the homosexual aspect of this case makes it especially repulsive to most Americans, regardless of how "open minded" they think they are.

[Wyatt_Junker]

Authorities found a TON of hard care porn in this "teacher's" room..............he's guilty all right.

No one's saying he's not guilty. I'm just saying that culturally, go to any inner city, listen to the rap lyrics, see the pregnant 14 year olds walking around aimlessly, wall-eyed like zombies getting their government Vitamin D and on the Wick. Meanwhile, they're "john" is cruising around the neighborhood for score.

Its also a cultural problem and a lot of time that resides in bad parenting and the 'humpee'.

[Wolfcounsel]

An adult having sex with a minor every day for months whether the kid likes it or not is still rape.

[Peachdiane]

I agree. But how come none of this gets said when its a well-proportioned blonde haired, blue eyed teacher doing the extracurricular with her phillipino boy toy in the front row?

I can't speak for anyone else but *I* find it equally repulsive whether it's a male or female teacher raping students.

[Wolfcounsel]

"But how come none of this gets said when its a well-proportioned blonde haired, blue eyed teacher doing the extracurricular with her phillipino boy toy in the front row?" --Wyatt_Junker


It makes no difference to me if the scumbag is a well-proportioned blonde or an ogre's butthole of a man.

[Patriot Heart]

Schools are going to have to go the route of the Boy Scouts, no adult is alone with a child ever, period. There must always be two adults. Now maybe in school it could be altered to one adult if there are more than 2 or 3 kids or something. This is insane. More and more of these terrible stories from schools everyday. I am SO glad I homeschool, despite alll the difficulties and expense. I would hate to visit my husband in prison because I have no doubt he would execute the perpetrator if it happened to one of our kids.

[S-T]

That didn't stop until, police say, another teacher walked into Cliatt's classroom Friday after school.

At first, she walked in and didn't know what she was seeing. But she ran out and grabbed a supervisor," explained Detective Barbara Matthews, Cocoa Police Department." OK. I had not clicked on the link yet. Apologies.

Fry the f***er.

[Peachdiane]

Schools are going to have to go the route of the Boy Scouts, no adult is alone with a child ever, period

I hope so. Adult teachers, like Mary Kay or this man, who cannot control themselves around children and teenagers should be locked up. People say, "Well Mary Kay loved the boy." I say so what? The teachers are still pedophiles. Plenty of other male and female pedophiles claim to also "love" their victims. Whether they like it or not, children/victims of sexual abuse are mentally manipulated.

As for Mary Kay, just because the victim is now "old enough" doesn't make what happened to them any less wrong or any less a crime. Look at Woody Allen marrying the step-daughter he molested and took porn pictures of when she was young. She's older now and he's loved and such a wonderful director, blah blah. To me he's still a beast and so is Mary Kay.

[S-T]

I agree. But how come none of this gets said when its a well-proportioned blonde haired, blue eyed teacher doing the extracurricular with her phillipino boy toy in the front row? :claps: :claps: :claps: :claps:

[Shadow]

This has nothing to do with inner city culture. Child molestation is no greater in the inner city. I have yet to hear rap lyrics promoting sex between men and boys. Likewise, homosexuality is a whole lot LESS tolerated in the inner city than in general society.

Until more info comes out I refuse to blame the victim. Pedophiles are MASTERS at choosing children they can intimidate and control. Shame and fear are powerful silencers. One of the lines is "You tell and I'll kill/have you killed...." Or "I'll make it so you flunk..." Or whatever.... And as has been said, the man is enormous.

We can thank NAMBLA and NEA. I remember where there was a teacher who was a member of NAMBLA. He openly taught that sex with kids was fine and dandy but the teachers' union would not allow him to be fired. Is it any wonder they are planning a termination hearing instead of firing him right on the spot?

:claps:
I agree totally Peachdiane. NAMBLA, NEA, and the growing influence of the gay culture all play a large role. We don know what the mental state of the kid is, but we do know that the man is a pervert who deserves to be castrated before being tossed under the jail.

[DesertFox]

Could also be that the kid liked it.
I can't believe you said that. Why? Weird as it seems, some people -- guys and gals both -- do like getting cornholed.

[TheBeast]

Why? Weird as it seems, some people -- guys and gals both -- do like getting cornholed.

Yep, plus if the kid hasn't been taught sex education, PSCE or whatever you guys call that sort of stuff, he may not understand that the intercourse (shall we say) was abhorrent or wrong in any way.

[Riverboat]

Schools are going to have to go the route of the Boy Scouts, no adult is alone with a child ever, period. There must always be two adults. That isn't always possible. I seldom get anyone in my room for tutoring, so when a student actually shows up, I pull out all the stops to assist him or her. (Hmm. Maybe that's not such a good metaphor.) Anyway, I also get a stray one after school for detention. In any case, my door is always open - WIDE open. I never shut that thing if there is a single student or two.

[Wyatt_Junker]

This has nothing to do with inner city culture.


Then it has more to do with, say, Fargo's norms?


Child molestation is no greater in the inner city.


I can bench 650 lbs. and fly. I say it, thus it is.


I have yet to hear rap lyrics promoting sex between men and boys.


No, but nearly all rap music is either directly or indirectly mysogynistic. It's all about slapping the ho's and making the bitches respect the pimp hand. The entire culture is one burkha shy of enforced Sharia Law. And the flip side of false machismo is faggotry. Look at any falaaming biker bar. On the surface the dudes look tough: leather, chains, studded chokers, domination, etc. but it's a giant throbbing ass party underneath all the Aqua Velva and handlebar mustaches. Same with Arab culture. Braggadocio and keeping the women in line is a lame cover for rampant homosexuality. Wherever you find a social imbalance where women are treated as second class citizens, you will find butt-poking not far behind.


Likewise, homosexuality is a whole lot LESS tolerated in the inner city than in general society.


Untrue. The further urbane one demographically traipses, the more one will find an uptick in the necessary cots for the AIDS ward. And this is due to its acceptability in such places. The more cornfed you go, you will discover less accommodation for homosexuality. You've got it straight up backasswards.

[TheRealLobo]

The school district is already planning a termination hearing.

A hearing? Might I suggest a lynching?

Wonder if the ACLU will jump to this bastard's defense. I mean, after all, who is society to interfere with his sex life?

[DeclinetoState]

If this guy is guilty, he should be locked in a room with Michael Jackson.

I don't really care to know about what happens afterward.

[Shadow]

No, but nearly all rap music is either directly or indirectly mysogynistic. It's all about slapping the ho's and making the bitches respect the pimp hand. The entire culture is one burkha shy of enforced Sharia Law. And the flip side of false machismo is faggotry. Look at any falaaming biker bar. On the surface the dudes look tough: leather, chains, studded chokers, domination, etc. but it's a giant throbbing ass party underneath all the Aqua Velva and handlebar mustaches. Same with Arab culture. Braggadocio and keeping the women in line is a lame cover for rampant homosexuality. Wherever you find a social imbalance where women are treated as second class citizens, you will find butt-poking not far behind.

Let's get our terminology straight. Since you brought up rap music, clearly we are talking about the Black community. Number one, I take such psychobabble with a grain of salt. Feminists and liberals have made the same claim about conservative men; that our defining of gender roles and anti-gay stance is a cover for our own homosexuality. I don't buy it and it certainly doesn't apply to me.

And you realize that most Blacks don't listen to rap music do you? Listening to you, one would think that you have a bunch of 30, 40, 50, 60 year old Black people rushing out to rap concerts. Plus, alot of rap doesn't involve the lyrics that you put all of your attention on. Rap is often the rebelious music of young folks in much the way that heavy metal and acid rock is. How often do you come down on Marylin Manson? I started a thread with an article showing the damage caused by rock music. Did your respond to it?


Untrue. The further urbane one demographically traipses, the more one will find an uptick in the necessary cots for the AIDS ward. And this is due to its acceptability in such places. The more cornfed you go, you will discover less accommodation for homosexuality. You've got it straight up backasswards.


And realize that there are other causes of aids, including drug use. As much as you would like to deny it, it is widely accepted that Blacks in general have traditionally been, and continue to be less accepting of homosexuality than Whites in general. Do any google search on "homophobia" and "Black community" and you will see this. I've seen this personally all of my life. Of course there are gay Blacks, but it is still a cultural taboo.

As far as aids is concerned, it is spreading faster amongst Black gays than White gays for whatever reason. Also, due to the taboo against homosexuality, many gay Black men attempt to hide their gayness by marrying or taking girlfriends while venturing out in secret to do what they really want to, whereas gay White men feel more free to go 100% queer. This results in an increased spread of aids to Black women.

The interesting thing is that this is a thread discussing an individual who molested a child. Why did you have to use it as a springboard to attack an ethnic group? Why do you desire so much to race bait?

[Wyatt_Junker]

Let's get our terminology straight. Since you brought up rap music, clearly we are talking about the Black community. Number one, I take such psychobabble with a grain of salt. Feminists and liberals have made the same claim about conservative men; that our defining of gender roles and anti-gay stance is a cover for our own homosexuality. I don't buy it and it certainly doesn't apply to me.


Defining gender roles doesn't add or subtract to faggotry. Perhaps you will start reading my posts instead of merely reacting. I said a gross imbalance such as mysogyny was the working pretense, cheesy machismo, same with the Latin community with domineering mothers. In the black community it has more to do with the absence of fathers which leads to hostility later in life due to a lack of discipline. Its not the defining of gender roles, but the lack of it that causes deviance, sexual or otherwise.


And you realize that most Blacks don't listen to rap music do you?


No, I thought if you were black you automatically came out breakdancing old school from your mother's womb while your gyno djay'd on turntables.

:rolleyes:



Plus, alot of rap doesn't involve the lyrics that you put all of your attention on. Rap is often the rebelious music of young folks in much the way that heavy metal and acid rock is.


Acid rock. haha. HAHAHAHAHA. Haven't heard that one in awhile old timer. Good one.


How often do you come down on Marylin Manson? I started a thread with an article showing the damage caused by rock music. Did your respond to it?


Because it bored me for the same reason that the Ozzy lawsuit bored me for the same reason that Tipper Gore and the PMRC bored me. Marylin Manson is a make-up wearing campy joke. Most g-rap is sick, disgusting and belittling.


As far as aids is concerned, it is spreading faster amongst Black gays than White gays for whatever reason. Also, due to the taboo against homosexuality, many gay Black men attempt to hide their gayness by marrying or taking girlfriends while venturing out in secret to do what they really want to, whereas gay White men feel more free to go 100% queer.

Shhhhhh. Keep it on the down low.