Bono shocked by Muslim women's reaction to breastfeeding

[DesertFox]

U2 frontman Bono was horrified during a visit to Ethiopia, when he saw local women pelting a breast-feeding aid worker with stones.

The American woman was oblivious of the offence she was causing, and had to escape the angry onslaught from female Muslims who had no qualms about injuring her or her baby.

Bono recalls: "I remember one vision of the people who are with World Vision, which is an American aid agency.

"One of the women was breast-feeding a child on the horse. She was so comfortable. She didn't mean to be insensitive.

"But the Muslim women did not like this and came out and started throwing stones at her because she was showing her breasts."

More (http://breakingnews.iol.ie/entertainment/story.asp?j=77537680&p=77538x54)

[DesertFox]

Those 48EEE's always get attention.

[Melz]

Geesh those folks get offended at a lot of things! And their reaction to being offended is to stone someone? Pretty harsh.

[yessum]

what im saying is..

WHY DIDNT BONO GO OUT THERE AND THROW AROUND SOME FISTS

if i saw some Btch a55 women throwing stones at a woman and her child i would have fcked some people up.

[DesertFox]

Bono don't believe in violence, you see. His sensibilities were so wounded by the sheer awfulness of this after-all-perfectly-ordinary-in-
Ethiopia event that he retreated trembling to his room, curled up in the fetal position, stuck his thumb in his mouth and wasn't heard from for 12 whole hours. It took that long to clean up the load in his Depends.

[yessum]

omg! 12 hours? but

but..

thats 12 hours he could have spent buying crazy fagged out sunglasses!

THE HORROR!

[Wolfcounsel]

"what im saying is..

WHY DIDNT BONO GO OUT THERE AND THROW AROUND SOME FISTS" --yessum


He would probably get his ass kicked. That guy doesn't look like he could handle an elementary school bully girl.

I'm interested in reading what the defenders of the Moslem creeps have to say about this.

[Rink]

Bono is a sissy

[DesertFox]

It's their culture, dude.

[Venus de Smilo]

Well, I'm sure they didn't mean any harm. They were just expressing their religious preferences as instructed by the Koran, and I don't think it matters that the aid worker was there on her own dime giving her time and labor for their benefit. It would be culturally inappropriate to expect any form of gracious accommodation from the poor Muslim women for the different customs of their benefactors. Why not, you might ask? Well, it just wouldn't, that's why. Clearly the aid worker was in the wrong and should have brought copious amounts of formula with her. Of course that might be a gauche display of wealth to the starving Ethiopians, so that probably wouldn't be a sensitive response, either.

I see no culturally proper solution for the aid worker but to return home.

[Human_Error]

Well I personally think it goes beyong their being offended because I think muslims look for any reason to toss a stone up the side of the head of what they deem an infidel! Don't let them fool you....they are sneaky that way....they throw the stone first and worry about an apology or excuse later!

P.S. I wonder if the woman breastfeeding was a blonde! They are sooo jealous of the blonde women!

[DoctorDoom]

Who recalls the Saudi demands during GW1 that women soldiers wear the official garb that SA requires for their <s>cattle</s> <s>slaves</s> <s>property</s> women, that they not be allowed to drive, etc.?

Islam is a hell-spawned, dark-ages religion that has entrapped the middle east for fourteen centuries. The only way Muslim women can survive is to behave as they are told to behave, as they did in this case. It avoids the beatings.

[Kathy29]

I can only imagine this woman's shock and horror to find that not everyone in the world wants to look at her tits.

[Venus de Smilo]

I can only imagine this woman's shock and horror to find that not everyone in the world wants to look at her tits.

Kathy, she was in the company of other women in a backwater African shithole country. That's hardly showing the world. And she wasn't a tourist - she was there to help them.

And even if she did do it front of hordes of people of both sexes, should she and her child be stoned for it? For God's sake, Kathy. *SHAKES HEAD IN AMAZEMENT*
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[Wolfcounsel]

"I can only imagine this woman's shock and horror to find that not everyone in the world wants to look at her tits." --Kathy29

If a woman is breastfeeding her baby in public, EVERY weenie who might be offended watching a female nipple give nourishment to an infant needs desperately to stick his head up his ass so that he may cease to be offended.

[DesertFox]

Um, Kathy was practicing the fine art of sarcasm.

[Wolfcounsel]

"Um, Kathy was practicing the fine art of sarcasm." --DesertFox

If that was sarcasm, then, oops. Either way, what I said still stands.<!-- / message -->

[Rink]

Hope Ubanges never go near these muslim women, I hear them Ubanges boobs can be tossed over the shoulders.

What reaction THAT would get from these muslim women!
If a breastfeeding woman gets stoned for breastfeeding in public, them ubanges may get worse!!!

[Venus de Smilo]

Um, Kathy was practicing the fine art of sarcasm.

Sarcasm? There wasn't any sarcasm in that except for the "shock and horror" part. It was a slam against the woman for being immodest by her standards.

[DesertFox]

Sounded like it to my ears.

[Beowulf]

Does anyone know what doesn't offend Arabs? I'm so sick of their whining!! I will continue to purposely offer things to Arabs left handed, keep the bare bottoms of my feet towards them in conversation and to keep using pages of the Quoran as toilet tissue.

[DeclinetoState]

Bono recalls: ..."One of the women was breast-feeding a child on the horse."

Who was on the horse? The woman? The child?

[Venus de Smilo]

Lol, Decline, I wondered the same thing.

[Venus de Smilo]

Does anyone know what doesn't offend Arabs? I'm so sick of their whining!! I will continue to purposely offer things to Arabs left handed, keep the bare bottoms of my feet towards them in conversation and to keep using pages of the Quoran as toilet tissue.

Amen, but what's this left-handed thing? I hadn't heard of that one.

[Warlady]

omg! 12 hours? but

but..

thats 12 hours he could have spent buying crazy fagged out sunglasses!

THE HORROR!

Are you on drugs? I've read quite a few of your posts today and I've come to the conclusion that you are overmedicating...or undermedicating whatever the case may be.

[Apollo5600]

More and more I am starting to think that the only way to deal with these people is not to appease them, not to be nice to them, but to make them FEAR YOU. I ain't just talking about Muslim terrorists... I am talking about every muslim over there.

Because of their religion, they hate our gutts, they hate everything about us, and have zero respect for us. I recall reading about how the Muslims, during some riots in Israel, raided the tomb of Joseph. They destroyed everything they could, and smiled and waved at the cameras, holding up the ruins as they did so.

They have been doing the same to the temple mount, and yet, the wretches have the nerve to complain about a Koran being flushed down a toilet? They are a backward people, and there is only one way to fix this.

Kill their leaders
And convert them to Christianity

[Venus de Smilo]

Apollo, I don't want 'em as Christians 'cuz they can't be trusted, but I'll go along with the rest of the plan.

[Rink]

More and more I am starting to think that the only way to deal with these people is not to appease them, not to be nice to them, but to make them FEAR YOU. I ain't just talking about Muslim terrorists... I am talking about every muslim over there.

Because of their religion, they hate our gutts, they hate everything about us, and have zero respect for us. I recall reading about how the Muslims, during some riots in Israel, raided the tomb of Joseph. They destroyed everything they could, and smiled and waved at the cameras, holding up the ruins as they did so.

They have been doing the same to the temple mount, and yet, the wretches have the nerve to complain about a Koran being flushed down a toilet? They are a backward people, and there is only one way to fix this.

Kill their leaders
And convert them to Christianity

They not only Trashed Josephs Tomb AFTER an agreement with the Palestinians promising they wouldnt do that very thing with a handover of that region, but the Palestinians killed a jew who tried to save sacred objects from Josephs tomb.

Killed an old harmless man in cold blood when he tried to stop that trashing from happening and tried to save sacred relics from Josephs tomb.

[Wolfcounsel]

"...what's this left-handed thing?" --Venus de Smilo

They wipe their butts with their left hand, and they use water. Their left hands are therefore dirty. With women, since they menstruate, and mothers change the babies' diapers, the "men" consider them completely dirty. This is what I learned from my trips overseas, and also what we were told during our Military lectures.

[Venus de Smilo]

"...what's this left-handed thing?" --Venus de Smilo

They wipe their butts with their left hand, and they use water. Their left hands are therefore dirty. With women, since they menstruate, and mothers change the babies' diapers, the "men" consider them completely dirty. This is what I learned from my trips overseas, and also what we were told during our Military lectures.

Good God, these people are so backward it's beyond bizarre.

They really creep me out.

[Warlady]

Apollo and Ann Coulter have the right idea. These are a sick people. They haven't advanced as a society past the stone age. They are intolerant, violent and hateful. Well guess what? I hate them more than they hate me. I am sick of their intolerance, violence and hatred. I worship our military for their mission to kill as many as they can. God bless them.

[Rink]

You should've heard the stories one of my friends told me bout the Iranians when they instituted the Last Shah of iran.

Those people are bloody, fickle as hell and crazy.

My friends dad was stationed as an Air Force officer in Iran at the time, along with his family

[Venus de Smilo]

Apollo and Ann Coulter have the right idea. These are a sick people. They haven't advanced as a society past the stone age. They are intolerant, violent and hateful. Well guess what? I hate them more than they hate me. I am sick of their intolerance, violence and hatred. I worship our military for their mission to kill as many as they can. God bless them.

Yeah, that.

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

It's their culture, dude.

Aesop's Fables - "TheScorpionandtheFrog" - 656+ fables (http://www.pacificnet.net/~johnr/cgi/aesop1.cgi?4&TheScorpionandtheFrog)


The Scorpion and the Frog

A scorpion and a frog meet on the bank of a stream and the
scorpion asks the frog to carry him across on its back. The
frog asks, "How do I know you won't sting me?" The scorpion
says, "Because if I do, I will die too."

The frog is satisfied, and they set out, but in midstream,
the scorpion stings the frog. The frog feels the onset of
paralysis and starts to sink, knowing they both will drown,
but has just enough time to gasp "Why?"

Replies the scorpion: "Its my nature..."

[Warlady]

I have thought long and hard about sharing my experience with an Arab. I'm still not sure I should. Before I met Fred I was dating an Arab from Jordan. Back then I didn't know anything about Arabs. He was nice looking and one of my best friends introduced us. So I figured he should be all right. Boy was I wrong. We had been dating for a few weeks and he was a perfect gentleman. Then one night he come to my apartment for dinner and was high. I did not know it at the time so I served wine. I later found out he was on barbituates and cocaine. They don't mix well with wine. He got violent with me. He held me hostage in my apartment for 2 days. He crushed my cheeks into my teeth. He tore the phone out of the wall. He finally fell asleep and I fixed the phone and called my ex-husband who is still my friend and he came and threw the guy out. I bolted the door and never allowed him back in my home. I don't know why to this day I didn't report him to the police. I was so young and stupid back then. But I tell you, Arabs are crazy.

[Rink]

I'll second and agree to what Warlady said as well :thumb:

[Venus de Smilo]

WL, no 'pup around at that time?

[Rink]

The sumbitch shoulda had a baseball bat loaded with nails taken to his head for what he did to ya Warlady.

[Warlady]

Yes Venus. I had a miniature dashound. Goodandtight aka gootentag was no help. Yes Rink. He was about my height and my ex was over six foot tall. He didn't argue with Bobby.

[Apollo5600]

Apollo and Ann Coulter have the right idea. These are a sick people. They haven't moved past the stone age. They are intolerant, violent and hateful. Well guess what? I hate them more than they hate me. I am sick of their intolerance, violence and hatred. I worship our military for their mission to kill as many as they can. God bless them.

They are Barbarians, Islam has made them this way.
Which is why killing their leaders is not enough, they enforce the Stone Age, but more will only spawn to take their place. We must win their hearts and minds, and this can only be done by beating them not only in the physical arena, but in the arena of ideas.

All those who call their people to violence must be given violence. The Cult of Islam is a disease, and the cure is the freedom of Christianity, and Christianity by nature gives birth to Democracy.

But one must not expect Islam and Democracy to survive in the same place. There can be only one, and the Muzzies know it. Aslong as they are a backward people, we will babysit their rights for eternity.

[Kathy29]

Sarcasm? There wasn't any sarcasm in that except for the "shock and horror" part. It was a slam against the woman for being immodest by her standards.

It was sarcasm. It was also a slam against the woman for expecting that her demand for public breastfeeding would be accommodated.

[Wolfcounsel]

"It was also a slam against the woman for expecting that her demand for public breastfeeding would be accommodated." --Kathy29


And my comment was a slam against the weenies who cannot stand to see a baby nursed by the mother. Don't bother with any rebuttals. They will be ignored by me.

[Melz]

It was sarcasm. It was also a slam against the woman for expecting that her demand for public breastfeeding would be accommodated.

You don't think a woman should be able to breast feed publicly? Here in the US, there are accomodations for those who are fearing (how strange to fear) breastfeeding or for those uncomfy with it. Over there in NonAmerica-zone, I am sure there are not such facilities.

She didn't DEMAND to publicly breastfeed, her BABY needed fed. She had the ABILITY BY NATURE to do so.

I was going to comment on this before but I was hoping against all hope that they were right when they though you didn't mean it as you said it.

How the hell do you think women fed their babies BEFORE BOTTLES?? Did they offend someone while keeping their baby alive with nurishment? Why should it change now?

GEEEESH. I will stop now.

[Wolfcounsel]

"She didn't DEMAND to publicly breastfeed, her BABY needed fed. She had the ABILITY BY NATURE to do so." --Melz

:claps:

My wife, a Filipina, freshly arrived from the Philippines, tore the manager of a fast food place in Hawaii a new as*hole, when he demanded that she stop breastfeeding our infant son. She was even doing it discreetly, and nobody in the place seemed bothered by it. Then the imbecile told her to take the baby to the restroom. I told him we would spend our money in a good place instead, and we left, after she let him have an earful. He wisely stayed put.

[Melz]

"She didn't DEMAND to publicly breastfeed, her BABY needed fed. She had the ABILITY BY NATURE to do so." --Melz

:claps:

My wife, a Filipina, freshly arrived from the Philippines, tore the manager of a fast food place in Hawaii a new as*hole, when he demanded that she stop breastfeeding our infant son. She was even doing it discreetly, and nobody in the place seemed bothered by it. Then the imbecile told her to take the baby to the restroom. I told him we would spend our money in a good place instead, and we left, after she let him have an earful. He wisely stayed put.

no offense against Kathy here, but I have found that the only people offended by a breastfeeding mother have some sexual repression against breasts, or no kids. Just an observation, not a generalization. This is how babies were meant to be fed long before our generation came to this Earth. I cannot imagine what words I would say to someone who thought otherwise.

I didn't even breastfeed because I had a C Section and family members kept pushing that button on my wrist with morphine (because I wouldn't). I was afraid it would get into my daughter if i breastfed. I missed out on that, I feel :(

I am still hoping Kathy was being "sarcastic" in nature, although, from what she admitted, she was being sarcastic against public breastfeeding :(

[Venus de Smilo]

"It was also a slam against the woman for expecting that her demand for public breastfeeding would be accommodated." --Kathy29


And my comment was a slam against the weenies who cannot stand to see a baby nursed by the mother. Don't bother with any rebuttals. They will be ignored by me.

Ditto, and everything Melz said, too.

[Venus de Smilo]

Yes Venus. I had a miniature dashound. Goodandtight aka gootentag was no help. Yes Rink. He was about my height and my ex was over six foot tall. He didn't argue with Bobby.

LOL, I was talkin' 'bout the BULLPUP, girl!

[DesertFox]

You guys act as though Kathy were against public breastfeeding. I saw nothing in her post to indicate that. I'm not agin it, either, but I do think the gal shoulda considered that she wasn't back home in Scranton. I refuse to go to any Muslim country because I know those people are nuts and might cut my head off if I farted.

Hasn't been that long ago in these here United States that no woman would have even considered breast feeding her infant in public. It's a question of modesty and nothing else. We find almost nothing immodest in America anymore and I for one don't think that's a good thing.

Before everyone comes after me for being anti-public-breast-feeding, note that I am NOT AGAINST PUBLIC BREAST FEEDING. I AM for women using common sense, especially when they're in a Moslem country.

[yessum]

"Are you on drugs? I've read quite a few of your posts today and I've come to the conclusion that you are overmedicating...or undermedicating whatever the case may be."

lol, warlady
its obvious that bono cares more about his appearance then those around him

i heard a joke today that went..

so u2 got into a car accident andd they all go to heaven and there they are met by God. God says hello and allows them all in...and bono doesnt go. God asks bono, whats wrong? bono replies....well everythings ok except one thing.
whats that God asks? bono replies, well your sitting in my chair.

[DesertFox]

You talkin' to me, yessum?

[yessum]

lol, no i was just quoting what warlady said, i forgot to put it in quotes, sorry

[yessum]

"I have thought long and hard about sharing my experience with an Arab. I'm still not sure I should. Before I met Fred I was dating an Arab from Jordan. Back then I didn't know anything about Arabs. He was nice looking and one of my best friends introduced us. So I figured he should be all right. Boy was I wrong. We had been dating for a few weeks and he was a perfect gentleman. Then one night he come to my apartment for dinner and was high. I did not know it at the time so I served wine. I later found out he was on barbituates and cocaine. They don't mix well with wine. He got violent with me. He held me hostage in my apartment for 2 days. He crushed my cheeks into my teeth. He tore the phone out of the wall. He finally fell asleep and I fixed the phone and called my ex-husband who is still my friend and he came and threw the guy out. I bolted the door and never allowed him back in my home. I don't know why to this day I didn't report him to the police. I was so young and stupid back then. But I tell you, Arabs are crazy."

im sorry that that happened and
sorry, no offense but that doesnt make all arabs crazy.
i have alot of friends who are arab and i wouldnt trade them for the world
cocaine and barbituates are what make you crazy.

[yessum]

and no, because you dated a guy who turned out to be a drug user didnt make you stupid, dont be hard on yourself. you can never know who people really are

im sure half the people you talk to online arent who they say the are.

[Riverboat]

Does anyone know what doesn't offend Arabs?
no

Folks, I lived in Mexico and traveled through a lot of parts I'll probably never see again, if I'm a good boy. On one occasion, I boarded a bus and watched a woman breast-feed her child in full view of other passengers. The hinterlands of Mexico are as backward as one can imagine, but NO ONE on the bus, male, female, young, elderly, hourly, salaried, domestic or foreign - okay, I was the only foreigner there - even hinted that anything was out of place. Nobody grunted, grimaced, winked. NOBODY picked up a rock, let alone threw one at the woman.

[DoctorDoom]

You should've heard the stories one of my friends told me bout the Iranians when they instituted the Last Shah of iran.Speaking of that shithole, here's a lesson in sexuality from the late (thank God) Ayatollah Khomeini.

Inspired By Islam (What the most famous cleric has to say):

From Khomeini's book, "Tahrirolvasyleh", fourth volume, Darol Elm, Gom, Iran, 1990 :

A man can have sexual pleasure from a child as young as a baby. However he should not penetrate, sodomising the child is OK. If the man penetrates and damages the child then he should be responsible for her subsistence all her life. This girl, however does not count as one of his four permanent wives. The man will not be eligible to marry the girls sister.
[...]
It is better for a girl to marry in such a time when she would begin menstruation at her husband's house rather than her father's home. Any father marrying his daughter so young will have a permanent place in heaven.Mohammad The Pedophile (http://www.homa.org/Details.asp?ContentID=2137352728&TOCID=2083225348)

There's no indication of his opinions on breast-feeding, but he'd probably allow it as long as he could service the baby afterward.

[Venus de Smilo]

You guys act as though Kathy were against public breastfeeding. I saw nothing in her post to indicate that. I'm not agin it, either, but I do think the gal shoulda considered that she wasn't back home in Scranton. I refuse to go to any Muslim country because I know those people are nuts and might cut my head off if I farted.

Hasn't been that long ago in these here United States that no woman would have even considered breast feeding her infant in public. It's a question of modesty and nothing else. We find almost nothing immodest in America anymore and I for one don't think that's a good thing.

Before everyone comes after me for being anti-public-breast-feeding, note that I am NOT AGAINST PUBLIC BREAST FEEDING. I AM for women using common sense, especially when they're in a Moslem country.

I don't care if what she did was offensive to those backwards babes, NOBODY deserves to have herself and child STONED for breastfeeding.

Besides, if she was sitting up on a horse, it wasn't all that blatant/plain sight. We don't have a lot of details. She could have been on the horse around the side of a shade tree or around a building mostly out of sight or a good number of yards away and sombody came upon her and alerted the other women in the vicinity - we don't know, and it doesn't really matter. This was an outrageous display of malicious intolerance, violent conduct, ungratefulness and primitive, disrespectful behavior. There is nothing wrong with a woman breastfeeding in the company of other women or even discreetly breastfeeding in the general public when necessary. If the Muslim women don't like it, they need to get over it. When somebody is there helping them, giving up their own life and time with their families, probably spending some of their own money, they can overlook such a small indiscretion or piss off. It's time for them to change. I think we've accommodated Muslims enough - too much, in fact. Waaayyyy too much. Their religious views and intolerance are behind all their problems and all our problems in the WoT. Stoning? Good God.

I certainly saw in Kathy's post that she is against public breastfeeding and she as much as admitted it: "It was also a slam against the woman for expecting that her demand for public breastfeeding would be accommodated."<!-- / message -->

[DesertFox]

Venus, you're acting as if somebody here were defending the stoning. Nobody has so much as hinted that the woman deserved stoning. Kathy didn't, I didn't. So why are you coming on as though somebody did? Talk about a straw man.

You make it clear that Americans going overseas have a right to expect the host population to accommodate themselves to our norms. Sorry, but that's just wrong. We on this forum regularly demand that people coming to the United States assimilate, which is not consistent with expecting foreigners, in their country, having to get over foreigner behavior they find offensive in their own neighborhood.

Kathy's original post didn't slam anybody. Only a liberal would be so completely oblivious to the world around her, as to do what this woman did in a Moslem country, knowing how idiotic Moslems can be. I saw that as inherent in Kathy's original post and am surprised that a reader normally as astute as you didn't.

[Melz]

"You make it clear that Americans going overseas have a right to expect the host population to accommodate themselves to our norms."

By "accomodate" I would think that meant put someone out of their way to do something for someone else. But no one had to do a thing. She didn't ask someone to accomodate her. When we are asked to accomodate others here in America, we are being asked to change things for them and make adjustments for them. That is a little different than just letting them do their own thing, as this woman was doing.

[Wyatt_Junker]

Venus, you're acting as if somebody here were defending the stoning. Nobody has so much as hinted that the woman deserved stoning.



Okay, nobody has yet. Until now.







































































DO IT.

[DesertFox]

You're splitting hairs, Melz. "To accommodate" also means "to tolerate" or put up with.

[tacitus]

The fact that this horseshit actually was reported as news is amazing. This crap probably goes on hundreds of time a day yet since Bobo Bono saw it, it becomes news. :rolleyes:

[Rink]

Most women who nurse their infants do so discreetly in public, they use a shawl or blanket to cover up the exposed part and the child is tucked in there where it can feed.

I think this whole thing has been blown completely out of proportion, I dont think women in America are throwing their boobs out with tits exposed in order to nurse their infants.

[Melz]

:claps: That's it exactly. Women who find commonality with the herd animals in the field, making spectacles of themselves just to prove to all how loving a mother they are by sacrificing their modesty in the service of their baby in public. Thank you Women's Lib., the answer to every horny teenaged boy's prayer.

Please tell me you are hiding some sort of sarcasm under there. And that you did not just type that.

Women have had boobies for much longer than women's lib has been around and much before our culture, they fed babies with those boobies. And, if I am not mistaken, THAT IS WHY BOOBIES HAVE MILK IN THEM. They were not put there for man's pleasure, they hold milk for the child which the woman carries and births.

Breastfeeding is not a women's lib thing..IT IS HUMAN NATURE.

I have to stay away from this thread. There will be a side of me shown which has only been shown in two other topics (abortion and speaking against the anti-Americans). I cannot believe what I am seeing here.

[Patriot Heart]

OK I have a question I have not been presented. WHY IN THE HELL would any aid worker in her right mind be in that environment with a baby??? I respect the heck out of missionaries, and maybe she is one, but I personally think it is NUTS to take children into these types of hostile places. It's fine to hear God's call for YOURSELF, but to take an innocent child into it is crazy in my view

[Rink]

Good point PH, babies in those third world hellholes are subject to diseases that arent oft found in developed nations, hence the high mortality rates among infants in 3rd world nations.

[Melz]

Good question, as I would never go near such a hatefilled nation with my child. I would be hard-put to help a buncha people who want me dead actually

My point still stands as far as breastfeeding goes.

But no, going to nations where folks have spent countless years trying to kill your folk off? Only would I do that by joining the military and ..having my way with America haters. I would not take my child there to be breast fed...(although I would do whatever I could find to "offend" these assholes)

[yessum]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Carl
That's it exactly. Women who find commonality with the herd animals in the field, making spectacles of themselves just to prove to all how loving a mother they are by sacrificing their modesty in the service of their baby in public. Thank you Women's Lib., the answer to every horny teenaged boy's prayer.


Please tell me you are hiding some sort of sarcasm under there. And that you did not just type that.

Women have had boobies for much longer than women's lib has been around and much before our culture, they fed babies with those boobies. And, if I am not mistaken, THAT IS WHY BOOBIES HAVE MILK IN THEM. They were not put there for man's pleasure, they hold milk for the child which the woman carries and births.

Breastfeeding is not a women's lib thing..IT IS HUMAN NATURE.

I have to stay away from this thread. There will be a side of me shown which has only been shown in two other topics (abortion and speaking against the anti-Americans). I cannot believe what I am seeing here.
__________________

umm...he was making a connection between libs and breastfeeding in public...not breast feeding in general.

[yessum]

and your right melz. they werent put there....they evolved.

[DesertFox]

Boobs serve a dual purpose: First to attract male sexual interest, second to feed babies. Why that order? Because the second can't happen until after the first has happened.

[yessum]

i <3 boobies...thats why they are the first on desertfox's list and attract me. in that order.

[Wolfcounsel]

"Boobs serve a dual purpose: First to attract male sexual interest, second to feed babies." --DesertFox

Guys would be attracted to women if all the females had purple scaly skin with green polka dots, horns on their head, a forked tail, and smelled like a coyote. It's the nature of the human.

[Kathy29]

The woman was a total idiot. Because she is protected by law here, and lactating mothers given a special respect, she projected the same reaction on others. This is like some southeast asians who come here, barbeque the neighbor's poodle and wonder why everyone is so upset.

And more and more women, especially the very young mothers, not only cover up, but are happy to expose both tits.

The woman deserved to be stoned no more than a woman failing to cover her hair deserves to be stoned. A simple admonishment would do.

Other than that, Carl has it right.

[DesertFox]

Guys would be attracted to women if all the females had purple scaly skin with green polka dots, horns on their head, a forked tail, and smelled like a coyote. It's the nature of the human. Um, maybe you would, Wolfie. But your comment sidesteps mine, on which you were supposedly speaking. Are you saying boobs have no sexual purpose?

[Wolfcounsel]

"But your comment sidesteps mine, on which you were supposedly speaking. Are you saying boobs have no sexual purpose?" --DesertFox

Yes, they do. Specifically the fatty mass some people call the "globes". A mother with little or no fatty area can breastfeed a baby with the exact amount of milk the baby needs, just as well as the mother with pendulous breasts.

The areola's thick make-up protects against chafing done by the baby, and the nipple grows erect to provide a better suction apparatus for the baby. Normal guys also find them attractive, and fun to play with.

And in the case of, say, a woman with bee stings, the guy still sees a woman first. Which leads to the next part. How many guys would go with the purple female creature instead of another guy?

[Wolfcounsel]

"So, breast feeding in public is not just an act of antisocial immodesty, it is symbolic of (some) women's struggle against their humanity and their adoption of animal nature.

Breast pumps and bottles." --Carl


And people can also attach a silencer and filter to their buttholes in case they want to fart in public. Such imodest behavior cannot be tolerated!:hissyfit:


Sorry, you normal people out there. Sometimes I can't help myself. It's the nature of The Beast.<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->

[Rink]

I dont think it was a matter of Openly exposing her tits, its a matter of the fact that a woman even THINKS of breastfeeding a baby near a male in those countries.

In America I havent seen any woman who breastfed their child just openly expose their tits for all to see, they're more discreet about it and use a shawl or a blanket to cover up that section.

Kathy yer goin a tad overboard with the 'exposed tit' thing.

[DesertFox]

Not necessarily. I have seen woman expose the entire breast. Many times. That doesn't mean the woman in this article did, but we don't know. The idea of Kathy's remark, and it's entirely justified, is that everybody knows that a nursing mother's bare breast is exposed even if they can't actually see it.

The woman was a total idiot for even thinking about public breast feeding in a Moslem country. I think it's safe to say that no conservative woman would even think of such a thing. Liberals, on the other hand, who spend their lives oblivious to what's going on, would. This is the unspoken background to Kathy's remarks from the beginning. Again, I'm surprised it has to be spelled out in detail for this audience.

[Wolfcounsel]

That woman breastfeeding her baby did the same thing those schoolgirls did in that burning school some time back. They tried to go out with their heads uncovered, in public, away from the flames and smoke, and they got slaughtered by the righteous as*holes who felt that the moon god, Allah, had been insulted. She was lucky she was not cleansed completely.


So I lied! I said I was not going to reply to breast-feeding remarks, but that's all I can stand, I can't stands no more!

[Kathy29]

Wolfcounsel is the most correct. That's why I said the woman was an idiot. Her intention aside from feeding her child, was to force her ways upon the people of another belief system. She's an idiot.

I don't know where most of you are, but around here, there is no action toward being discrete. The mother ordinarily pulls up her t-shirt exposing not one but both breasts, and most likely acts pretty defiant about it. The goal is, naturally, to get as many men to look as possible. It's not feeding, its an opportunity to flirt. Married or unmarried it's flirting, and when the husbands are there, they are quite proud of their possessions. In fact, since I refuse to look and generally leave, it's usually the husband/boyfriend that gets mad about it.

Just like the new maternity wear. If you haven't seen it yet, it's coming. Stretch pants pulled up to the groin and a belly shirt barely covering the breasts. The swollen abdomen, complete with extended belly button is left uncovered. Which may very well play havoc with the women's lower back.

Yet, and what's really aggravating is that if any other woman wants to take off her shirt and reveal her braless titties, the police would certainly put a stop to it.

[Rink]

scuse me but there ARE shirts for breastfeeding mothers that dont HAVE to be pulled up exposing an entire chest.

get your facts straight Kathy

[2nd_Amendment]

nevermind...

[DesertFox]

Rink, where did Kathy say there were no alternatives? What do you know about the area where Kathy lives? I've seen women do exactly what she describes. I've also seen other women who were more discreet.

You are being antagonistic with Kathy for no reason I can see, and your facts are not straight.

[Rink]

I think you mistake me, Kathy is saying women with T-shirts pull them completely up and expose both boobs and tits to nuse their infants, and I'm saying there are other shirts out there specially made FOR women who want to nurse their children discreetly that dont require they pull the entire shirt up and expose the breasts for all to see.

Those that do what kathy is saying they do are ignorant dumbclucks without a clue and should be charged with indecent exposure which is what they're doing.

I know for a fact there's a LOAD of products and outerwear for nursing mothers that keep this breastfeeding thing in as discreet as possible manner.

Again those women who dont know or refuse to bother with such things are idiots int he third degree and i think they are just doing so to raise the eybrows on purpose just to make a 'feminist' point.

And there isnt any reason or excuse for it when there's products out there that allow for discreet breastfeeding WITHOUT the indecent exposure.

Thats why i called kathy on the 'get your facts straight' thing.

As its obvious not many know of these things.

I tend to expore, study and learn anything and everything that interests me.

And that includes breastfeeding.

[iFocusNews.com]

1st: Who gives a shit what Bono thinks.

2nd: Why would anyone be suprised that Muslims have no qualms about hurting a baby, or anyone, for that matter? Clearly violence is how these people communicate.

[iFocusNews.com]

The mother ordinarily pulls up her t-shirt exposing not one but both breasts, and most likely acts pretty defiant about it. The goal is, naturally, to get as many men to look as possible. It's not feeding, its an opportunity to flirt.
I think that's a little far-fetched. Pulling up one's shirt and showing one's boobs is a way to flirt? Where does this type of behavior take place and how do I get there?

[DesertFox]

Um, Rink, if you'll read what Kathy wrote, she said where she lives (that's what "around here" means) women do that. She did not say that all women worldwide do that, or that that's the only possible way to breastfeed, or that there are no other forms of clothing for breastfeeding women, which is what you seem to think she said.

[iFocusNews.com]

Those that do what kathy is saying they do are ignorant dumbclucks without a clue and should be charged with indecent exposure which is what they're doing.
All joking aside, I don't understand what the problem is here. I think breast feeding is a beautiful and entirely natural thing that women shouldn't be ashamed of. What's the big deal?

[Venus de Smilo]

To hear Kathy tell it, women just flaunt their breats every chance they get, and that not observing a possibly unknown custom so as not to offend the precious Muslims is an act of deliberate disrespect for the sake of exhibitionism. What rubbish. It's so rare that I see a woman breastfeeding publicly I can't even remember the last time, and NEVER have I seen a women pull up her T-shirt, expose her breats and then get around to feeding the baby. I live in the same state as Kathy and I see nothing of what she claims. Her first post on this topic illustrates a complete distatse for public breastfeeding of any kind. It was an exaggeration of the situation inasmuch as a group of Muslim women hardly equates to the "whole world" and because she wasn't focused on the violent behavior of the Muslims at all. Her focus was what might be in the mind of the mother, albeit with a complete lack of evidence as to what that might be. It's just speculation, nothing more.

[aaron11]

WoW it's amazing how far apart similar people can get on minor issues.

I am 32 years old and I cant recall ever seeing a Mother that was breast feeding be anything but discrete and even embarrassed...

[Wolfcounsel]

"I am 32 years old and I cant recall ever seeing a Mother that was breast feeding be anything but discrete and even embarrassed..." --aaron11


I see nothing about what she can be embarrassed for. In the case of a lack of privacy, like in a shelter, I don't foresee any mother refusing to nourish her baby because she is afraid some little immature as*hole might get red-faced and start giggling.<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->

[aaron11]

"I am 32 years old and I cant recall ever seeing a Mother that was breast feeding be anything but discrete and even embarrassed..." --aaron11


I see nothing about what she can be embarrassed for. In the case of a lack of privacy, like in a shelter, I don't foresee any mother refusing to nourish her baby because she is afraid some little immature as*hole might get red-faced and start giggling.<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->

I agree, I would imagine most are embarrassed for the other people who see at them and become embarrassed or apoligetic...If that makes sense...

Either way,
Point is i think Kathy is misinterpreting that womens intentions...
Just who would she have Been trying to impress or flirt with...
Seems to me she was just trying to feed her baby...And suffered because of a barbaric ignorant religion...

[Tumblehome]

Well I must say that I am pleasantly suprised. I somehow expected the conservatives here to have a problem with public nudity, including public breast feeding. Personally I'm all for public nudity. The nudity taboo is ridiculously outdated.

[aaron11]

Well I must say that I am pleasantly suprised. I somehow expected the conservatives here to have a problem with public nudity, including public breast feeding. Personally I'm all for public nudity. The nudity taboo is ridiculously outdated.

Only thing here thats outdated is your perversion...Not to mention your post wich has nothing to do with the topic...

[DoctorDoom]

Well I must say that I am pleasantly suprised.What can we do to correct that?

I somehow expected the conservatives here to have a problem with public nudity...We do.

... including public breast feeding.What has that to do with public nudity. Women have been doing that since Eve, as God intended.

Personally I'm all for public nudity.Well, you can compromise. Buy a long coat and do your thing with unsuspecting women. But be prepared for gales of laughter.

<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v349/DocDoom777/flasher1.gif" />

The nudity taboo is ridiculously outdated.Given the number of people who should not be naked for purely aesthetic reasons, your comment is irrelevant.

[Tumblehome]

What has that to do with public nudity.

An exposed breast in public is public nudity. I figured that was obvious. If a woman wants to pop out her breast to feed her baby or simply walk around topless because it is hot outside, why discriminate?

[DoctorDoom]

Main Entry: 1 nude
Pronunciation: 'nüd, 'nyüd
Function: adjective
Inflected Form(s): nud·er; nud·est
Etymology: Latin nudus naked -- more at NAKED
1 : lacking something essential especially to legal validity <a nude contract>
2 a : devoid of a natural or conventional covering; especially : not covered by clothing or a drape b (1) : of the color of a white person's flesh (2) : giving the appearance of nudity <a nude dress> c : featuring nudes <a nude movie> d : frequented by naked people <a nude beach>
synonym see BARE

Main Entry: de·void
Pronunciation: di-'void
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, past participle of devoiden to dispel, from Middle French desvuidier to empty, from Old French, from des- dis- + vuidier to empty -- more at VOID
: being without a usual, typical, or expected attribute or accompaniment <an argument devoid of sense>

So what does breast-feeding have to do with public nudity?

[Tumblehome]

Where did you get those definitions, and what does nudity have to do with "the colour of a white person's flesh". Odd.

When a woman pulls out her breast for all to see it is devoid of it usual covering. Fits with your definition - however odd the source may be.

Not that any of this is relevant to my original observation.

I'm happy that you're not offended by a woman breast feeding. I'm not either. I had expected the conservatives here to be upset over a naked breast - no matter the circumstance.

In what other circumstances are you not offended by uncovered (I'll use that word instead of nudity to accomodate you) people?

I take it nude beaches are a nono (which must ruin your tan).

What about naked babies? Topless 3 or 4 year old girls? Naked corpses in morgues? Naked manequins? Communal same sex showers like at the gym or in schools?

The nudity - er - uncovered flesh taboo is ridiculous. We were born naked. Why is it so wrong to be naked afterwards?

The only reasons I can see against nudity are warmth, protection, and in some places hygeine. But I don't expect that these are the reasons most at this board would give against nudity. I suspect is more based on the taboo that nudity has been assigned.

[DesertFox]

It's a biological taboo, Tumble. Some few people are born with no sense of modesty, but most of us develop it along with puberty. It's natural.

[Shadow]

Where did you get those definitions, and what does nudity have to do with "the colour of a white person's flesh". Odd.

When a woman pulls out her breast for all to see it is devoid of it usual covering. Fits with your definition - however odd the source may be.

Not that any of this is relevant to my original observation.

I'm happy that you're not offended by a woman breast feeding. I'm not either. I had expected the conservatives here to be upset over a naked breast - no matter the circumstance.

In what other circumstances are you not offended by uncovered (I'll use that word instead of nudity to accomodate you) people?

I take it nude beaches are a nono (which must ruin your tan).

What about naked babies? Topless 3 or 4 year old girls? Naked corpses in morgues? Naked manequins? Communal same sex showers like at the gym or in schools?

The nudity - er - uncovered flesh taboo is ridiculous. We were born naked. Why is it so wrong to be naked afterwards?

The only reasons I can see against nudity are warmth, protection, and in some places hygeine. But I don't expect that these are the reasons most at this board would give against nudity. I suspect is more based on the taboo that nudity has been assigned.

Would you consider a woman showing her midriff to be nude? Her belly would be devoid of its usual covering. The exposure of a body part that would ordinarily be covered doesn't equate to nudity. It equates to exposure. Nudity generally denotes a person being completely uncovered or nearly completely uncovered.

Breast/nipple exposure is generally illegal and considered indecent under most circumstances, but exception is commonly made for breast feeding. Even then, discretion is expected. Small blankets, special attire, etc. can minimize exposure considerably during feeding.

There is no massive nudity movement and laws against it are not really challenged. Humans, by nature, desire cover (which may relate to lack of fur). Nearly every society covers itself to some degree with clothing. A culture of clothing has evolved from man's natural tendency to desire cover, with intimacy being the most desirable time for people to unclothe together. Thus, nudity has taken on a sexual representation that is seen as most appropriate in private.

Even young children are expected to be covered though it is more acceptable for them to be uncovered due to the not sexual representation of a child's body. Public showers usually include same sex individuals and traditionally, there are not sexual vibes with regards to men seeing each other naked (though society is really trying to change this). Cadavers are similar to when a doctor needs to see you unclothed for medical reasons. You will never see a nude body at a wake. And mannequins are generally abstract in details.

[Bluemoon_Rising]

These people are mindless barbarians. Let me be very clear: Islam is a sick, twisted, ugly religion. It's a totalitarian political ideology parading as theology. Frankly, I see no difference in the thought processes of rabid leftists and Muslims.

[Robjoyce1847]

NEWSFLASH.......Janet Jackson just cancelled her scheduled halftime performance at the Ethiopian Stoning Championship.

She's as big a coward as Bono.

(Don't let my Avatar fool you, I can't stand that socialist Irish woos)

[Melz]

These people are mindless barbarians. Let me be very clear: Islam is a sick, twisted, ugly religion. It's a totalitarian political ideology parading as theology. Frankly, I see no difference in the thought processes of rabid leftists and Muslims.




Blue, I was going to compare the two as well but didn't want to get reprimanded for it. Does sound a lot like the cult that liberalizm is becoming though doesn't it? Stone and halt anything in your way, even if it is not in your way?

Yeah, liberalizm it is. They keep suggesting that they want to move to Canada but I have a much more suited country for them now.

Of course, they never follow thru anyway.

[Bluemoon_Rising]

Just so.