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Pendragon_6
06-17-2005, 07:53 AM
Devvy Kidd
June 17, 2005
© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com


"In Defense of the World Order ... U.S. Soldiers would have to kill and die"

– Aurthur Schlesinger Jr., July / August '95 Foreign Affairs, CFR's flagship publication

Lou Dobb's show on June 9, 2005, was an eye popper and even Lou couldn't contain his shock:


Lou Dobbs, CNN Anchor: Good evening, everybody. Tonight, an astonishing proposal to expand our borders to incorporate Mexico and Canada and simultaneously further diminish U.S. sovereignty. Have our political elites gone mad? We'll have a special report. Blood ... Now, incredibly, a panel sponsored by the Council on Foreign Relations wants the United States to focus not on the defense of our own borders, but rather create what effectively would be a common border that includes Mexico and Canada."

Christine Romans, CNN Correspondent (voice-over): On Capitol Hill, testimony calling for Americans to start thinking like citizens of North America and treat the U.S., Mexico and Canada like one big country.

For constitutionalists like myself, this is treason talk and Lou Dobbs should be thanked by the American people for exposing this evil plan. The fact that it is even being discussed in the U.S. Congress is putrid. The Council on Foreign Relations is an organization whose mission is to redefine American policy and slide this republic into a one-world government – a nightmare beyond what most Americans can't even imagine. Rear Adm. Chester Ward was a member of the CFR for 16 years and later warned the American people as to the true intentions of this treasonous operation:



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Lazarus
06-17-2005, 09:48 AM
Nothing suprises me anymore...:rolleyes:

ILikeIke
06-17-2005, 02:32 PM
So, basically, a bunch of bankers who get their power by printing more money without any hard backing want their little printed money to trump everything, including U.S. individual rights and the laws of other nations? It wouldn't surprise me either if some bankers have that as a little dream. Just money-printers grabbing for power? What is surprising about that?

I thank you for posting this, though. Although I haven't looked closely at the sources, I didn't know that these bankers were so open about such a plan. Of course, I still don't "know" it; but, I wouldn't be surprised if this post were true. Thanks.

aaron11
06-17-2005, 03:08 PM
Their are not enough letters in the english alphabet to express my anger and shame that this could even be considered...

Perhaps I wont need to inlist to see combat after all...

The_RANDy_Corporation
06-17-2005, 03:21 PM
lol

Tony Snow is a member of the CFR. This is a committee of fogies with a lot of time on their hands. Sleep tight. Nothing important going on here.

Turret Gunner A20
06-17-2005, 03:50 PM
So what's new?

The first time I heard abouat this bunch was when I met a John Birch Society member, Georgia Congressman Larry McDonald in 1972 when he gave a speech including the exact same information on the CFR.


But then, of course, everybody knows the John Birch Society is a bunch of crackpot far right extremists, whatever the hell that means. And nobody listened.

And they still don't!

Turret Gunner A20
06-17-2005, 03:56 PM
lol

Tony Snow is a member of the CFR. This is a committee of fogies with a lot of time on their hands. Sleep tight. Nothing important going on here.

Are you willing to bet your life on it? You may just be doing that little thing.

The_RANDy_Corporation
06-17-2005, 04:05 PM
Yeah, right. Here's your tin foil beenie.

aaron11
06-17-2005, 04:08 PM
Can I have a peice?, So long as your passing it out...

The_RANDy_Corporation
06-17-2005, 04:12 PM
Sure. I still have plenty. Until the Trilateralists find out and take it again!

ILikeIke
06-17-2005, 05:23 PM
lol

Tony Snow is a member of the CFR. This is a committee of fogies with a lot of time on their hands. Sleep tight. Nothing important going on here.

Thanks for the reassurance. I really didn't take it very seriously, yet. That's why I called it a "dream" of "some bankers." :)

aaron11
06-17-2005, 10:54 PM
Very strange assemblance of names...

ThomasMore
06-18-2005, 03:46 AM
All my life, I have heard arguments that the Council on Foreign Relations is a secret cabal out to rule the world. And I discount it as more than a little bit paranoid.

There are too many powerful voices of conservatism and limited government who are members. Just going through some of the big names in the letters A through C (note: I am using a different members' list than the one the article links to, which includes some earlier members):

Robert L. Bartley (recently deceased), former editorial page editor of the Wall Street Journal and a conservative the left truly despised.

Arnaud de Borchgrave, former UPI President and currently an editor for UPI, the Washington Times and NewsMax.

William F. Buckley, founder of the National Review.

George H. W. Bush

Linda Chavez, commentator and Reagan aide.

Dick Cheney

Monica Crowley, Nixon biographer and conservative commentator.

In fairness, many names from the left also appear, along with politicians, business people, academics and journalists of all political stripes.

The CFR is a body which exists to research and discuss international affairs. Historically, it tended to be more left-oriented than right-oriented. In my view, that is because from the Roosevelt administration on, American politics has been dominated more by the left than the right, especially until Reagan was elected. Even since then, the majority of the political and journalistic elites, and the State Department crowd, still tend to be more on the left than the right, so the CFR's membership continues to be more liberal than conservative.

But the CFR has never been monolithic, and it always had conservative members. The number of conservative members, and the strength of those conservative members' voices, has steadily been growing stronger.

You will find more political and intellectual diversity in the Council on Foreign Relations than you will find on nearly any university campus. Furthermore, the sheer size of the CFR's membership precludes any "secret cabal". Trying to get that many intellectuals and people of huge ego to move in any one direction would be like trying to herd cats.

It is a discussion and research group.

http://www.cfr.org/about/mission.php

http://www.cfr.org

ThomasMore
06-18-2005, 08:19 AM
As for Arthur Schlesinger, he IS an old, unreconstructed socialist who would long for a "new world order" run by the UN. And in the 1960's and '70's, the left-leaning (and unopposed) press ate up anything that came out of his mouth, or his pen.

Much of what appears in Foreign Affairs is internationalist (no surprise there), statist and socialist. But not all of it.

In addition, Foreign Affairs publishes many articles which sound intellectual and high-flying, but which would crash to the ground if seriously tried as policy. But the journal also has some good analyses.

I subscribed to it in the past, but gave up after deciding that the nonsense-to-sense ratio was too high.

http://www.foreignaffairs.org

DesertFox
06-18-2005, 08:22 AM
Foreign Affairs used to be a serious journal. It ceased being that once Clinton took office. I don't think there's any significance to that; FA went wrong before Clinton came along.

aaron11
06-18-2005, 08:44 AM
Half the battle these days is information sources...
Although its not that hard to spot libralism and leftist bs one can understand how some people literaly become misinformed rather then just simpley uninformed. Which in my opinion is just as dangerous if not more so.