View Full Version : Michael Schiavo Outraged Over New Probe Requested by Jeb Bush
Webruary
06-19-2005, 03:03 PM
Michael Schiavo Outraged Over New Probe (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1425704/posts)
AP/CBS ^ (http://www.freerepublic.com/%5Ehttp://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/06/17/national/main702689.shtml) | 6/17/05
Gov. Bush said Friday that a prosecutor has agreed to investigate why Terri Schiavo collapsed 15 years ago, citing an alleged time gap between when her husband found her and when he called 911.
Bush said his request for the probe was not meant to suggest wrongdoing by Michael Schiavo. "It's a significant question that during this ordeal was never brought up," Bush told reporters.
As CBS Correspondent Wyatt Andrews reports, Michael Schiavo's attorney calls the new investigation political pandering by the governor.
"It's just shameful and disgraceful that Governor Bush has for years used this case to perpetuate his own agenda,'' said attorney Felos.
In a statement issued by his lawyer, Schiavo called the development an outrage.
"I have consistently said over the years that I didn't wait but 'ran' to call 911 after Terri collapsed," Schiavo said in the release.
In a letter faxed to Pinellas-Pasco County State Attorney Bernie McCabe, the governor said Michael Schiavo testified in a 1992 medical malpractice trial that he found his wife collapsed at 5 a.m. on Feb. 25, 1990, and he said in a 2003 television interview that he found her about 4:30 a.m. He called 911 at 5:40 a.m.
"Between 40 and 70 minutes elapsed before the call was made, and I am aware of no explanation for the delay," Bush wrote. "In light of this new information, I urge you to take a fresh look at this case without any preconceptions as to the outcome."
McCabe was out of state Friday and couldn't immediately be reached for comment, but Bush said McCabe has agreed to his request.
...Michael Schiavo's attorney... said his client didn't wait to call for help and has conceded that he confuses dates and times. He has said that if Michael Schiavo had not called 911 immediately....
(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/06/17/national/main702689.shtml) ...
Wolfcounsel
06-19-2005, 08:07 PM
Maybe if he starts kicking the crap out of his girlfriend, some defense toad may acquire a second opinion of the model citizen.
Montag
06-19-2005, 09:20 PM
I don't see any reason why this article isn't further evidence that this administration is just using the Schiavo case to bolster its conservative appearance at the expense of one man's privacy. The woman's long ordeal is finally over and the recent autopsy revealed no evidence of physical abuse... drop it already and give the family some privacy (both sides of the family, as far as I'm concerned).
Wolfcounsel
06-19-2005, 10:14 PM
"I don't see any reason why this article isn't furhter evidence that this administration is just using the Schiavo case to bolster its conservative appearance at the expense of one man's privacy." --Montag
You can call a murdering SOB a man. I call it a piece of sh*t that needs to be scooped up and placed in a proper container.
Montag
06-20-2005, 03:45 PM
You can call a murdering SOB a man. I call it a piece of sh*t that needs to be scooped up and placed in a proper container.
I don't remember calling you 'man'. :smirky:
Freedomposter
06-20-2005, 04:17 PM
Shouldnt they have done this 15 years ago? I agree with Montag, this must be some ploy by Bush to appeal to Conservatives.
Longhorn_Platinum
06-20-2005, 04:19 PM
:unsmile: Bush wasn't governor, fifteen years ago. As for the accusations that he's trying to score political points, rather than standing on principle, I can understand that coming from you liberals, since that's exactly what y'all would do.
Wolfcounsel
06-20-2005, 04:52 PM
"I don't remember calling you 'man'. :smirky:" --Montag
Keep it up. I didn't insult you.
Warlady
06-20-2005, 06:38 PM
I don't see any reason why this article isn't furhter evidence that this administration is just using the Schiavo case to bolster its conservative appearance at the expense of one man's privacy. The woman's long ordeal is finally over and the recent autopsy revealed no evidence of physical abuse... drop it already and give the family some privacy (both sides of the family, as far as I'm concerned).
Obviously you haven't read all of the facts of the autopsy report. There were several very interesting facts that were revealed in the report. One was the fact that she wasn't bulimic as Michael Schaivo claimed. Another was that he swore under oath that he called 911 as soon as she collapsed. Fact: it was over an hour later. There are others that are still being investigated. But people like you will never get it because you don't want to admit that Michael Schiavo might have something to do with her injury. That's a shame. Lemming.
tacitus
06-20-2005, 06:42 PM
Let the murderous SOB be outraged. He's afraid of being exposed for the wife beater and murderer that he is...
Well we really don't know that's the case do we? Do you have proof, or just speculating?
Beowulf
06-20-2005, 07:07 PM
I don't see any reason why this article isn't furhter evidence that this administration is just using the Schiavo case to bolster its conservative appearance at the expense of one man's privacy. The woman's long ordeal is finally over and the recent autopsy revealed no evidence of physical abuse... drop it already and give the family some privacy (both sides of the family, as far as I'm concerned).
Why give the POS any privacy at all? If he was all caring as he claims, he wouldn't have shacked up with another woman and had kids while his wife lay comatose. It was proven that he abused her. As far as I'm concerned, he shouldn't be left alone so long as the scum lives.
Montag
06-20-2005, 07:27 PM
"I don't remember calling you 'man'. :smirky:" --Montag
Keep it up. I didn't insult you.
I was just trying to jibe you a little to make light of your poignant use of literary flourishes in your response to me. I apologize for my lapse of maturity.
Montag
06-20-2005, 07:44 PM
Obviously you haven't read all of the facts of the autopsy report. There were several very interesting facts that were revealed in the report. One was the fact that she wasn't bulimic as Michael Schaivo claimed. Another was that he swore under oath that he called 911 as soon as she collapsed. Fact: it was over an hour later. There are others that are still being investigated. But people like you will never get it because you don't want to admit that Michael Schiavo might have something to do with her injury. That's a shame. Lemming.
First off, I never said "Its impossible that Michael Schiavo had something to do with her injury," as you imply. I simply stated that there were no signs of abuse in the autopsy report, so what can we do?
I wasn't trying to make a comment on every esoteric detail of the case either. We may never know all of the details of Schiavo family life, and I don't want to. It was their business, and it's over. I just think it's ridiculous that our friend Mr. Bush is still making an issue of this. Do you know how many people have been murdered in Miami since the 'fight for Terri's life' began? I don't, but I don't hear the Gov making a hubbub about their 'right to life' either.
To make my point more clear, if he were really concerned about peoples' right to life, he should be fighting his state's use of the death penalty. Yet he's not fighting it despite the fact that it's frowned upon by many Christian denominations. In light of this, I think he must be using the Schiavo case for political leverage, not because of his genuine concern for moral matters. This is my opinion, so take it for what it's worth.
Wolfcounsel
06-20-2005, 08:18 PM
"I apologize for my lapse of maturity." --Montag
Okay. I'll put my fang file away.
HomeschoolrsRUs
06-20-2005, 08:36 PM
First off, I never said "Its impossible that Michael Schiavo had something to do with her injury," as you imply. I simply stated that there were no signs of abuse in the autopsy report, so what can we do?
What is being done.
If one TRULY believe a wrong has occurred, they don't just stop fighting because someone tells them to, especially if they feel a GRAVE wrong has occurred. What was done to Terri Schiavo is a grave wrong. The effects of which will be long and far-reaching. Against all odds, striving for right is never wrong.
I wasn't trying to make a comment on every esoteric detail of the case either. We may never know all of the details of Schiavo family life, and I don't want to. It was their business, and it's over.
No, it is now the nation's business, not even just Florida's. A person's unalienable right to life was revoked . . . terminated . . . over-ridden. That is serious public business. Unfortunately this case cannot be condensed into a 10-second sound bite -- and that's just what the pro-death crowd is counting on. Every single piece was carefully constructed, making a way for this woman's life to be negated and erased. Now the way has been paved for even more agregious action to be taken, with less and less and less criteria met for such action. Death to the frog!*
I just think it's ridiculous that our friend Mr. Bush is still making an issue of this.
So if Governor Bush TRULY believes a great wrong has been perpetrated, one that will have serious implications for the citizens of the state he represents, he should just let it go because to do otherwise would be viewed as "making a political issue of it'? Well, then Governor Bush will not win for losing, will he, if he is striving to appease one faction or another. But if he is truly standing his conviction(s), as I do believe him to be, he has much to lose and very little to gain by supporting this action.
As a native Floridian, I do not agree with your assessment. We are a state FILLED with retirees, snowbirds, and elderly (I will be one in the not too distant future), and I know if I was one now, I would be quaking in my swim-trunks at the thought of the "state" deciding when my life is worthy of living, and when my inalienable right to life falls beneath the state's right to deem it negligible. I support Governor Bush.
Do you know how many people have been murdered in Miami since the 'fight for Terri's life' began? I don't, but I don't hear the Gov making a hubbub about their 'right to life' either.
So, do two wrongs equal a right? You are throwing out a ridiculous strawman. This is irrelevant.
To make my point more clear, if he were really concerned about peoples' right to life, he should be fighting his state's use of the death penalty. Yet he's not fighting it despite the fact that it's frowned upon by many Christian denominations.
Why, because you believe he should?
You simply CANNOT compare the unalienable right to life afforded Terri Schiavo (not by man, but by the Creator, recognized since the inception of this nation through the Declaration of Independence), to the forfeiture of the right to life by one who has chosen to take another. Terri Schiavo killed no one. Ted Bundy did, repeatedly . . . he forfeited his right to life when he took those lives by acts of murder. They are NOT equivalent, by any measure or standard.
In light of this, I think he must be using the Schiavo case for political leverage, not because of his genuine concern for moral matters. This is my opinion, so take it for what it's worth.
And your proof for this assertion would be . . .? (The two strawmen provided below are not sufficient. Prove that he is doing this for political leverage, and not genuine concern for moral matters.)
* One does not cook a frog by throwing it in a boiling pot of water, it will merely hop out. To do the job proper, one must place the frog in tepid water, turning the heat up gradually allowing him to acclimate to the ever increasing temperature until he is absolutely cooked through and through.
To destroy a nation, one merely has to do so one small measure at a time. The frog is cooking, and time is running out.
Wolfcounsel
06-20-2005, 08:45 PM
"To make my point more clear, if he [Governor Bush] were really concerned about peoples' right to life, he should be fighting his state's use of the death penalty." --Montag
You might find out soon enough that there is a difference between killing an innocent human being, and taking out the trash (death penalty).
Taking out the trash is the highest form of public service.
"In light of this, I think he must be using the Schiavo case for political leverage, not because of his genuine concern for moral matters. This is my opinion, so take it for what it's worth."
What if his morals are different than yours? What if he believes that the death penalty (AKA killing a killer) is moral and Murdering the innocent (AKA killing Terri) are his MORALS. You don't get to determine what is moral or not. Neither does he. But he is speaking up on his morals as we all feel we can. He didn't change law, he didn't break law. He wrote in reprimanding a newspaper of its stance. Much like we would in an editorial. Your morals are not his. Neither one is determined the "right moral." That is impossible. Doesn't mean though, that his morals are for political gain. That seems to be a common accusation, which holds no water.
Longhorn_Platinum
06-20-2005, 09:06 PM
To make my point more clear, if he were really concerned about peoples' right to life, he should be fighting his state's use of the death penalty. Yet he's not fighting it despite the fact that it's frowned upon by many Christian denominations.
:unsmile: Maybe not his, & certainly not mine.
In light of this, I think he must be using the Schiavo case for political leverage, not because of his genuine concern for moral matters.
:unsmile: It must come as a terrible shock to you, to know that some people have principles, & the integrity to stand firm on them.
vBulletin® v3.7.3, Copyright ©2000-2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.