Warlady
07-22-2005, 10:25 PM
"I am for socialism, disarmament, and, ultimately, for abolishing the state itself... I seek the social ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class, and the sole control of those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal."
-- Roger Baldwin
Roger Baldwin
Other info:
http://www.constitutioncenter.org/t...cw08_12161.html
http://www.stoptheaclu.org/
http://stoptheaclu.blogspot.com/
http://www.seekyetruth.com/ACLU.htm
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The archetypal Hive institution was the American Civil Liberties Union. In 1927 its long-time leader, Roger Baldwin, visited the Soviet Union, where he said there was no need for a civil liberties union, since the “working class” already ruled in Russia. Later, two top officials of the American Communist Party would be appointed to the national board of the ACLU. Subservience to Stalin was fully compatible with devotion to American “civil liberties” — as defined by the ACLU.
Liberals revere the ACLU as the “watchdog of the Bill of Rights,” but this depends on whether you count the Second, Ninth, and Tenth Amendments as part of the Constitution. The ACLU never has. It upholds peculiar interpretations of other amendments, using the First Amendment to defend Communists and pornographers. (It likes to point out that it has also defended neo-Nazis and Klansmen, but there’s a big difference: the ACLU has never welcomed such “right-wingers” to its national board.)
In the name of “rights,” the ACLU has actually campaigned to lead the federal courts to strike down the laws of the states, thereby usurping the powers reserved to the states under the Tenth Amendment. It has never defended property rights or opposed taxation; and above all, it has made systematic legal war on federalism. All its efforts have tended to promote the socialist model of totally centralized and secularized government. And it has done much to change the U.S. Supreme Court’s understanding of the Constitution, wildly inflating the meanings of a few pet clauses while reducing inconvenient clauses to dead letters. The remaining powers of the states now exist only by the sufferance of the Court.
The Growth of the Hive
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Let me make one thing perfectly clear. While Roger Baldwin, the founder of the ACLU, had strong Communist ties and even declared it as his ultimate goal, he was never actually a member of the Communist party.
Unfortunately, the same can not be said about those who joined him to form the organization. His first Board of Directors were Elizabeth Gurly Flynn and William Z. Foster, both of whom would later head the Communist Party in America.
Baldwin was very open about his goals, unlike many of today's ACLU leaders. They try to rewrite Baldwin's history as a simple "flirtation" with Communism that only lasted a brief period.
However, Roger grew up in a family of radicals and socialists, and at the ripe age of fifty he said, "I am for socialism, disarmament, and ultimately for abolishing the State itself as an instrument for violence and compulsion. I seek the social ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class and sole control of those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal."
[snip]
William Kunstler, as a member of the National Advisory Counsel stated, "I am a double agent, working within the system to bring down the system."
Just study it's policies and case history and it is obvious they still seek Communist and socialist goals.
Roger Baldwin, The ACLU, And Un-Americanism (FreeRep thread)
Quote:
On January 16, 1981, President Jimmy Carter awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom to Roger Nash Baldwin, founder of the American Civil Liberties Union and the International League for Human Rights. While lauded as a champion of human and civil rights both domestically and internationally, Dr. Baldwin left behind as his legacy an institution that is fundamentally un-American and subversive to the principles upon which America was founded.
Baldwin, who visited the Soviet Union in 1927, was greatly intrigued by Communism. So intrigued was Baldwin by the Soviets that in 1928 he released the book Liberty Under the Soviets. To most, anything besides the conclusion that liberty under the Soviets did not exist is counter-intuitive. Baldwin, however, looked to the Soviet Union as a sort of “superprogressive” state. In addition to Baldwin’s ties with members of the Communist Party USA, William Z. Foster and Elizabeth Gurley Flynn, two of the first board members of the ACLU, would later become card-carrying Communists.
Despite the ACLU’s efforts to paint themselves as the “nation’s guardians of liberty,” their history points to a group bent on the destruction of freedom, Christianity, and America itself. Tom Krannawitter of the Claremont Institute argues that “a powerful faction within the ACLU has been determined to remake America along ‘progressive,’ if not communist lines.”
The ACLU and Christianity
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-- Roger Baldwin
Roger Baldwin
Other info:
http://www.constitutioncenter.org/t...cw08_12161.html
http://www.stoptheaclu.org/
http://stoptheaclu.blogspot.com/
http://www.seekyetruth.com/ACLU.htm
Quote:
The archetypal Hive institution was the American Civil Liberties Union. In 1927 its long-time leader, Roger Baldwin, visited the Soviet Union, where he said there was no need for a civil liberties union, since the “working class” already ruled in Russia. Later, two top officials of the American Communist Party would be appointed to the national board of the ACLU. Subservience to Stalin was fully compatible with devotion to American “civil liberties” — as defined by the ACLU.
Liberals revere the ACLU as the “watchdog of the Bill of Rights,” but this depends on whether you count the Second, Ninth, and Tenth Amendments as part of the Constitution. The ACLU never has. It upholds peculiar interpretations of other amendments, using the First Amendment to defend Communists and pornographers. (It likes to point out that it has also defended neo-Nazis and Klansmen, but there’s a big difference: the ACLU has never welcomed such “right-wingers” to its national board.)
In the name of “rights,” the ACLU has actually campaigned to lead the federal courts to strike down the laws of the states, thereby usurping the powers reserved to the states under the Tenth Amendment. It has never defended property rights or opposed taxation; and above all, it has made systematic legal war on federalism. All its efforts have tended to promote the socialist model of totally centralized and secularized government. And it has done much to change the U.S. Supreme Court’s understanding of the Constitution, wildly inflating the meanings of a few pet clauses while reducing inconvenient clauses to dead letters. The remaining powers of the states now exist only by the sufferance of the Court.
The Growth of the Hive
Quote:
Let me make one thing perfectly clear. While Roger Baldwin, the founder of the ACLU, had strong Communist ties and even declared it as his ultimate goal, he was never actually a member of the Communist party.
Unfortunately, the same can not be said about those who joined him to form the organization. His first Board of Directors were Elizabeth Gurly Flynn and William Z. Foster, both of whom would later head the Communist Party in America.
Baldwin was very open about his goals, unlike many of today's ACLU leaders. They try to rewrite Baldwin's history as a simple "flirtation" with Communism that only lasted a brief period.
However, Roger grew up in a family of radicals and socialists, and at the ripe age of fifty he said, "I am for socialism, disarmament, and ultimately for abolishing the State itself as an instrument for violence and compulsion. I seek the social ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class and sole control of those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal."
[snip]
William Kunstler, as a member of the National Advisory Counsel stated, "I am a double agent, working within the system to bring down the system."
Just study it's policies and case history and it is obvious they still seek Communist and socialist goals.
Roger Baldwin, The ACLU, And Un-Americanism (FreeRep thread)
Quote:
On January 16, 1981, President Jimmy Carter awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom to Roger Nash Baldwin, founder of the American Civil Liberties Union and the International League for Human Rights. While lauded as a champion of human and civil rights both domestically and internationally, Dr. Baldwin left behind as his legacy an institution that is fundamentally un-American and subversive to the principles upon which America was founded.
Baldwin, who visited the Soviet Union in 1927, was greatly intrigued by Communism. So intrigued was Baldwin by the Soviets that in 1928 he released the book Liberty Under the Soviets. To most, anything besides the conclusion that liberty under the Soviets did not exist is counter-intuitive. Baldwin, however, looked to the Soviet Union as a sort of “superprogressive” state. In addition to Baldwin’s ties with members of the Communist Party USA, William Z. Foster and Elizabeth Gurley Flynn, two of the first board members of the ACLU, would later become card-carrying Communists.
Despite the ACLU’s efforts to paint themselves as the “nation’s guardians of liberty,” their history points to a group bent on the destruction of freedom, Christianity, and America itself. Tom Krannawitter of the Claremont Institute argues that “a powerful faction within the ACLU has been determined to remake America along ‘progressive,’ if not communist lines.”
The ACLU and Christianity
He's NOT a nice guy.<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->
__________________
Hatred is an affair of the heart; contempt that of the head....Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860),