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Warlady
08-16-2005, 02:14 PM
I'm posting this here because it is all politics.
Who's Behind Cindy Sheehan?
By Cliff Kincaid
August 16, 2005
The story of Cindy Sheehan is a sad story all the way round. It is sad she lost her son in the Iraq War. It is sad that she is being exploited by far left. It is also sad that she is being exploited by the media and that she seems to enjoy it.
The latest example of this crass exploitation is the August 13 page-one story in the Washington Post about how the anti-war mother has gained "visibility." The Post and other media have given her this "visibility." They are feeding off one another to promote an anti-war agenda.
Sheehan, who once described herself as friendly toward President Bush, now says she wants to personally meet with the President and for him to "tell me that my son died for oil." She wants to say to Bush: "You tell me that my son died to make your friends rich. You tell me my son died to spread the cancer of Pax Americana, imperialism in the Middle East."
As Byron York of National Review noted, Sheehan has also said that without left-wing bloggers promoting her cause, America would already be a "fascist state."
In her view, therefore, an effort to transform the Middle East by creating a democratic state in Iraq has become "imperialism" and "cancer," and the U.S. is itself close to becoming a fascist state. She may be a "crackpot," as Fred Barnes of Fox News commented, but she is also someone to be pitied because she has clearly been brainwashed.
Consider how her views have changed.
Sheehan's son Army Spc. Casey Sheehan was killed in Iraq in April of 2004. And like all families who have lost children serving their country, they are owed our gratitude and respect, and our condolences. Mrs. Sheehan was not happy about how the war was going even last year when she and her family met with Bush. She had criticized the handling of the war, and accused Bush of having "changed his reasons for being over there every time a reason is proven false or an objective reached."
But after meeting with him, she told the Reporter, of Vacaville, California, that "I now know he's sincere about wanting freedom for the Iraqis. I know he's very sorry and feels some pain for our loss. And I know he's a man of faith." And being with other families in similar situations apparently made the family feel better. "That was the gift the President gave us, the gift of happiness, of being together," Mrs. Sheehan told the paper.
Mrs. Sheehan went from being somewhat critical of the war to believing that the U.S. is on an imperial crusade and that the President himself is an evil man.
A tip-off as to what happened to Mrs. Sheehan is that she has been blogging on the website of Michael Moore, who is known for his far-left politics, dishonest "documentaries," and comparing the terrorists in Iraq to the Minutemen, the patriots who fought in the American Revolution. One of her blog entries said, "We have such a strong coalition of groups. GSFP, Code Pink, Veterans for Peace, Military Families Speak Out and the Crawford Peace House."
The rest (http://www.gopusa.com/commentary/ckincaid/2005/ck_08161.shtml)
Federal Farmer
08-16-2005, 02:52 PM
A tip-off as to what happened to Mrs. Sheehan is that she has been blogging on the website of Michael Moore, who is known for his far-left politics, dishonest "documentaries," and comparing the terrorists in Iraq to the Minutemen, the patriots who fought in the American Revolution.
Is it any wonder that she's mentally unbalanced? Mrs. Sheehan, expand your reading matter a little more, some history might help.
My computer settings may need adjusting, but that page wouldn't load. Going on what I see so far though, I do not feel sorry for her and do not even think it is brainwashing. Typical liberal behaviour is more like it. Changing her mind (and story) on things, becoming radical and extreme when something doesn't go your way, etc. She is making an ass of herself, and is more extreme than the simple anti-war, anti-Bush liberals.
As much as she hates this country and everything it stands for though, she will never leave it. That fact itself doesn't give her a leg to stand on. This is a free country inasmuch that you are also free to leave it. She doesn't hate it as much as she says. But she sure gets attention when she pretends to hate America.
Lazarus
08-16-2005, 03:20 PM
Who's Really Behind Cindy Sheehan? De Debbil, dats who!!!:devilange
UhUhNoWay
08-16-2005, 04:03 PM
I could be behind Cindy Sheehan and feel really good about it.
UhUhNoWay
08-16-2005, 04:04 PM
especially if I was in a really big truck with faulty brakes.
Warlady
08-16-2005, 04:10 PM
I understand her grief but she has crossed the line. That's why her husband has filed for divorce.
DesertFox
08-16-2005, 04:26 PM
She ain't doing this outta grief. She's doing this outta politics. That's what makes it obscene -- that she's dishonestly perverting grief to an agenda.
Warlady
08-16-2005, 04:58 PM
I think she's grieving but you're right. She's exploiting her son for a political agenda and that is pathetic, sick, and very typical of leftwingers. I wonder if she's wishing she had had an abortion instead? If I were face to face with her I would slap the shit out of her for what she's doing to her son.
Longhorn_Platinum
08-16-2005, 05:28 PM
:unsmile: What's really sick is that her son wouldn't have agreed with her agenda.
Warlady:
I wonder if she's wishing she had had an abortion instead?
:unsmile: Of course not. She'd rather have him die the way he did, so she can advance her sick politics.
Teenager
08-16-2005, 05:33 PM
Her son, would be shootin rounds at her house, if he were still alive.
DeclinetoState
08-16-2005, 07:48 PM
I think she's grieving but you're right. She's exploiting her son for a political agenda and that is pathetic, sick, and very typical of leftwingers. I wonder if she's wishing she had had an abortion instead? If I were face to face with her I would slap the shit out of her for what she's doing to her son.How far are you from Crawford, Warlady?
DoctorDoom
08-16-2005, 09:54 PM
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They may be behind her (and those behind her include a good portion of liberals who are not the MSM, just the extremely misguided America-haters), but they are not the reason for her doing this. Anyone can stand behind an asshole, the intellegent ones move quickly away when a fart comes out of said asshole though. The MSM is oblivious to this fart on America it appears.
Taylor
08-16-2005, 10:48 PM
Mrs Sheehan is being used by the left to cause support for the Iraq war to fall. Unfortunately, they are succeeding. We can NEVER AGAIN promise to free oppressed people only to turn our backs on them and leave like we did in Veitnam.
DeclinetoState
08-17-2005, 11:42 AM
Typical liberal behaviour is more like it.
Uh, what part of Canada is Cincinnatuh in? :D
Oh stop that :) For some reason, that is the only word I use the "u" spelling of. It just sounds like it needs to go there. Just that word though.
TechnoPrincess
08-17-2005, 12:31 PM
I'm no longer sure that she doesn't realize that she is being used by the left. It is giving her the spotlight and it seems that she is enjoying it a little too much to seem sinscere any more. She is just in it for attention, and the more she cries and screems and throws around accusations, the more the MSM eats it up! No matter that her son would be horrified at her behavior.
Warlady
08-17-2005, 04:26 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v349/DocDoom777/cartoon_20050814.jpg
Doc this is sooooooooo appropriate. DTS I'm about an hour and a half drive I think.
DeclinetoState
08-17-2005, 06:21 PM
So, you'd need about 3-1/2 hours to drive over, say hello, slap her, and drive back (allowing a little time for the unexpected).
Hey Warlady, ya oughtta go over there, and gently but firmly confront this obviously mentally unbalanced person and tell her just exactly what she is to you.
and tell her she Really doesnt give two flyin toots bout ANY of her kids, as if she cared about one, she would have cared about the three she has left, which OBVIOUSLY she does not.
SHes a fake, a flake a screwball a moronic self-centered self-serving b!tch that cares only for her own self and nobody else and has used the death of her son in a disrespectful and despicable way...... all to 'Get back at Bush'!!!
Warlady
08-17-2005, 08:14 PM
I agree Rink and I just may. Right now I'm busier than a one legged broad in a butt kickin' contest. I've got contractors, plumbers, electricians, painters, drywall folks and framers all here at the same time. I wonder if LadyHawk has time. She's closer. She can be pretty confrontational and so can True American. Together they would send those libs to hell in a hand basket.
Warlady
08-17-2005, 08:25 PM
Rink, here's the map from my place to Crawford http://www.mapquest.com/directions/main.adp?go=1&do=nw&rmm=1&un=m&cl=EN&ct=NA&rsres=1&1a=&1c=Weatherford&1s=TX&1z=&2a=&2c=Crawford&2s=TX&2z=
Indeed! :thumb:
Would be great to have a FreeConservatives protest of their own a gainst Cindy Sheehan and her leftist troupe.
Warlady
08-17-2005, 08:31 PM
I noticed that LadyHawk is about the same distance from the Western White House as I am but she knows where it is. I don't. She delivered some vital information in 2000 which helped GW win the election. She handed it to the Secret Service and I know they delivered it to him because I heard his attorney use the data I sent in that document to make his argument. Talk about totally cool.
Longhorn_Platinum
08-17-2005, 08:36 PM
:smirky: I'd love to drive by with a message on my back windshield:
Hey Cindy....
STFU
:smirky: Honk, SMILE, & wave.
:unsmile: I doubt if the wife would like that.
Uncle Fester
08-17-2005, 08:52 PM
I hate to break the news to everyone, but her son wasn't one of the heroic types. Apparently, he joined solely for the college money and had written home that he didn't agree with the war in Iraq. I guess he figured he would be able to slip in and out of the Army with a sack full of money and no chance of laying it on the line. He was wrong. Yes, he did his duty and ended up giving his life in service to America, but I wouldn't be so certain that he would be taking issue with his mother's conduct right now. And I'm sure she was the beneficiary of all of his survivor benefits--$400,000 in tax-free life insurance included.
Warlady
08-17-2005, 09:09 PM
No offense Uncle Fester but do you have anything to back up your claims? For one thing our soldiers do not get $400,000.00 in life insurance. My brother only had $10,000.00 in life insurance in the Marine Corps. In order for you to get me to believe that our troups' life insurance jumped from 10K in 1970 to $400K in 2004 is going to require a lot more than just your word. Know what I mean Vern??? Also, I can't believe that he was that far off from his Father's views which match ours. He is divorcing Sheehan's Mother as we speak. I'm not doubting your word but I would like proof that the only reason he joined the military was to advance his education without regard to serving his country. So please show me the proof of your claims. I am waiting with bated breath.
Even if the claims are true (which I have my doubts as well), it doesn't change any of the anti-Cindy feelings I have lately. She is still doing damage and defaming America, she is still using her son's death to further her hatred for the President and this country, and she still IS NOT GRIEVING. I think she already did that "grieving" thing and what she is doing now is completely separate from grieving. How can anyone expect us to feel for a grieving mother who is doing anything but grieving??
And cindy Sheehan is STILL not taking care of the rest of her family like she should, irregardless of her son's hero status or not, Cindy Sheehan has elected to ignore her three remaining children and husband and the rest of her family for the limelight of the MSM and notoriety in the anti-war lefty movement that hasnt given up since the 60's.
If she had cared one WHIT about ANY of her children, she would be there WITH her family taking care of the three remaining children instead of being a news-whore for the anti-war leftist movement.
Uncle Fester
08-18-2005, 12:09 AM
No offense Uncle Fester but do you have anything to back up your claims? For one thing our soldiers do not get $400,000.00 in life insurance. My brother only had $10,000.00 in life insurance in the Marine Corps. In order for you to get me to believe that our troups' life insurance jumped from 10K in 1970 to $400K in 2004 is going to require a lot more than just your word. Know what I mean Vern??? Also, I can't believe that he was that far off from his Father's views which match ours. He is divorcing Sheehan's Mother as we speak. I'm not doubting your word but I would like proof that the only reason he joined the military was to advance his education without regard to serving his country. So please show me the proof of your claims. I am waiting with bated breath.
The amount is currently $250,000 (link provided below). It was $200,000 when I retired. It will be increased to $400,000 on September 1st. I thought the $400,000 had already taken effect. My mistake. There is also an immediate death gratuity of something like $8,000.
Insurance link:
http://www.insurance.va.gov/sgliSite/SGLI/SGLI.htm
As far as my comments on her son goes, I read them in a couple of online articles (not blogs). Unfortunately, I can no longer find them. I'm simply relaying what Sheehan stated in the articles--that her son had written letters to her professing that he did not "like the war" or agree with it and that he wanted to get save some money to finish college. According to Sheehan, her son initially liked military service but, according to her, his views changed when Iraq came to the forefront.
Of course, I have seen contradictory information as well. The woman's story seems to be in a constant state of flux. I will continue to search for the articles, but can't remember which news service ran them.
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