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Suzie
01-22-2003, 10:52 PM
Four-Winged Dinosaur Gives Vital Clue About Flight





Jan. 23
— By Patricia Reaney

LONDON (Reuters) - Chinese scientists have discovered fossils of a feathered, four-winged dinosaur which they say provides new evidence of the origin of avian flight. The creature, called Microraptor gui, is less than a yard long and is thought to have glided from tree to tree, similar to flying squirrels, in an intermediary step before full, flapping flight.

"The new fossils provide the best example of the transition from dinosaurs to birds," Xing Xu, of the Chinese Academy of Sciences in Beijing, said Wednesday.

"They are the link between the flightless dinosaurs and (flying) birds," he told Reuters in an interview.

For more than a century, palaeontologists have been debating whether flight originated from tree-dwelling creatures that glided or from ground animals that propelled themselves by running and frantically flapping their wings.

"The new discovery...requires us to re-evaluate some classical work in dinosaur evolution, in
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Are there any other existing creatures with 4 wings.

DoctorDoom
01-28-2003, 12:12 AM
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Are there any other existing creatures with 4 wings.

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AFAIK, only dragonflies. Maybe these critters "evolved" into them.

Timberwolf
01-28-2003, 11:39 AM
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DoctorDoom said:
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Are there any other existing creatures with 4 wings.

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AFAIK, only dragonflies. Maybe these critters "evolved" into them.

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Do butterflies have 4 wings or 2 that are sectioned??

Keith J
01-28-2003, 12:03 PM
All insects have 4 wings...structurally these animals are totally different from the dinosaurs not to mention insects lived with the dinosaurs...

MaximumSam
01-28-2003, 12:32 PM
Flies only have two wings. For dinosaurs to become dragonflies, there probably would have to be some intervention from Jesus or somebody. Any proof of that, Dr. D?

Keith J
01-28-2003, 05:04 PM
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MaximumSam said:
Flies only have two wings. For dinosaurs to become dragonflies, there probably would have to be some intervention from Jesus or somebody. Any proof of that, Dr. D?

[/ QUOTE ] Insects have 4 wings... (http://wings.avkids.com/Book/Animals/advanced/insects-01.html) Originally, all winged insects had four separate wings as do all dragonflies today. But more recently, most insects, that have four wings, flap them together and have connected wing surfaces. For example, a Cicada Killer-Wasp rows through the air with a figure eight motion on wings coupled together by a "zipper". The wings are feathered like oars on the upbeat; on the downbeat, they spank the air-flat on; in-between they start to twist in anticipation of their next upward stroke. Other insects either have only two wings or only use two of their four wings to fly.

MaximumSam
01-28-2003, 05:58 PM
The other pair of wings for flies was reduced into little knobs.

DoctorDoom
01-28-2003, 06:37 PM
http://wings.avkids.com/Book/Animals/Images/dragonfly_photo.jpg (http://wings.avkids.com/Book/Animals/advanced/insects-01.html)Okay, I'll buy that re other bugs with four wings. I don't make an avocation of entomology. I'm familiar with dragon flies cuz there are dozens of them up here on any given summer day, ergo that one came immediately to mind.

In any case, it doesn't answer the question of where the four-winged birds are, since dinosaurs obviously didn't become insects.

Do the fairy godmothers who wave their wands to cause "evolution" have four wings? <br clear="all" />

Suzie
01-28-2003, 09:29 PM
I think I read some where that it is aerodynamically impossible for a bumble bee to fly. But I guess no one told him so he does it anyway. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue1.gif I have no idea if that is true. LOL

DesertFox
02-01-2003, 12:28 PM
Four-Winged Dinosaur Gives Vital Clue About Flight

Interesting if true.

Also interesting if half-true.

Also interesting if not true at all, because if not true at all, how come it made the news? which would imply something sinister at work.

Which implies Maximum Sam. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif