View Full Version : I keep hearing about Poll #s
Jim Sentry
09-18-2005, 05:31 PM
I don't understand why Bush's approval rating is at 40%.
I think he did everything possible re:Katrina, but according to the MSM his approval ratings are sinking.
I am missing something, do you all feel he's doing a lousy job?
Longhorn_Platinum
09-18-2005, 05:45 PM
:unsmile: Nobody has ever polled me. I think these surveys are all conducted in Massachusetts's 4th Congressional District.
Eagle1
09-18-2005, 07:05 PM
they are shaped by question format
many people are not satisfied because we are allowing the left to hog-tie us into tip toeing around national defense
and bush failing to take a strong stand at the border
Teenager
09-18-2005, 07:31 PM
After seeing how many soldiers are dying every day in Iraq, and the recent pro-peace movements by Cindy Sheehan, do you think Bush is handling the War in Iraq badly?
(1) Yes, he is doing very, very, very lousy job
(2) He is doing a very good job
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Just an example of they word the polls. It's completely biased.
Patriot Heart
09-18-2005, 07:34 PM
You know I think Longhorn has something there. I don't think most Americans (sadly) are on the ball enough to be that mad about the borders.
Beowulf
09-19-2005, 02:00 AM
Poll numbers. You mean those things that said John Kerry was going to win the 2004 election? :hahaha:
grannygirl
09-19-2005, 06:19 AM
Let's look at this with a little reasoning. Aid didn't arrive in New Orleans until just about the sametime Bush did. We have a war in Iraq costing lots, and now, we have a diaster on our own shores to handle. Where is the money gonna come from? Gonna borrow more from China again? We can't possibly do all this with these continued tax cuts. Let's stop relieving the rich kid, and make him pay some taxes. Let's start pulling back some in Iraq. There's answers out there, and Bush needs to take a hard look and find them. You may think the poles are bias, but they do say something.
Wyatt_Junker
09-19-2005, 10:10 AM
Let's look at this with a little reasoning. Aid didn't arrive in New Orleans until just about the sametime Bush did. We have a war in Iraq costing lots, and now, we have a diaster on our own shores to handle. Where is the money gonna come from? Gonna borrow more from China again? We can't possibly do all this with these continued tax cuts. Let's stop relieving the rich kid, and make him pay some taxes. Let's start pulling back some in Iraq. There's answers out there, and Bush needs to take a hard look and find them. You may think the poles are bias, but they do say something.
I don't believe the 'rich kid' should pay any more as a working percentage than the 'poor kid'. The American dream is only alive predicated on an actual incentive. Ambition is a good thing; let the carrots dangle on the end of their sticks. Rewards aren't technically rewards if you have to pay them all back and are punished for success.
Actually, I don't believe in 'rich kids' inasmuch as I don't believe in the proletariat versus the bourgeouis. I don't believe in Marxism of any kind, in fact. In my thinking, anyone of the 'proletariat' class can convert into the upper tier of the 'bourgeouis' and viceversa. They're interchangeable because money and how much you are worth is always subjective. A 'rich' man by one person's estimation may be a 'poor' man in another circle. On the scale of relativity, the American Experiment makes no such distinctions and tax brackets are a form of Marxism in that they are punitive and diminish the very incentive that prods on the human spirit.
In regard to your post, Bush can do so much more than lob on a few percentage points onto the backs of the upper tax bracket wage earners.
Number one, he can cut the whopping geriatric perscription aid package to seniors that he signed. That was despicable pandering to a voting bloc that will only ensure economic doom and enslavement to people under 35. He can also cut spending in a number of other areas and quit playing fast and loose with Average Joe's money.
Something that needs saying here is that Bush did not have Clinton's good fortune. In terms of the budget, Bush did not have a make believe dot com fairytale that boosted the economic fortunes of millions which in turn frontloaded and flooded the tax reserves. It was all helium based, but Bush did not have access to that kind of widespread sociological monomania which made everyone carefree and let down their guard and throw their money around like yuppie scum pretending to be on the Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous.
Also, with the March 2000 explosion, came a haunting (lowercase) 'r' that slowly mushroomed into an uppercase R on Bush's watch. It began with Billy Jethro despite the media blowjobs. Now, let's not forget, here come a couple of jets out of nowhere that blast into our economic architecture. The muslims gave us a body punch, we were already reeling with the dot com sploshun meltdown and wham, another hit. The R started to bloom red.
Surprisingly this wasn't enough; e ponzi exposed and muslim terrorism to tweak the economy. It rallied back. A little bit. We could say it held its own. But then, the war. And the costs again ensued.
And the costs just kept rising and rising and rising.
When you 'fight' a war with PC constraints its gonna cost you more money than a General Patton war. And this too bleeds the economy of life.
We can still get out of this hole if Bush would just slash and cut the bullshit Robin Hood tax schemes and payoff the debt instead. But, he won't. And I personally do not know why when he ain't up for reelection. I'm stymied.
Riverboat
09-19-2005, 10:31 AM
I don't understand why Bush's approval rating is at 40%.
I think he did everything possible re:Katrina, but according to the MSM his approval ratings are sinking.
I am missing something, do you all feel he's doing a lousy job?THe premise is all wrong. When the federal government is doling out money, it's doing a lousy job. When the president is handing out moola left and right, and someone under him is passing out debit cards with $2000 to spend as necessary (say, hooch), he is doing a lousy job.
Failure to defend our borders, No Child Left Behind, creating another department with more layers of bureaucracy, . . . This is not what I had in mind when I voted Republican.
Jim Sentry
09-19-2005, 10:54 AM
Well, at least for one of us, we agree that those poll #'s are BS.
I think Bush is doing what he can and if he can get congress to drop some of those costly special projects that cost millions but only benefit hundreds he will find the money we need.
I am totally against any kind of tax increase.
aaron11
09-19-2005, 11:19 AM
Bush has tried to please everyone, that is a "logical fallacy", that has back fired on him as far as polls are concerned, HOWEVER, unlike Clintoon, Bush does not stop to take the 'temperature' every five minutes, true leadership can and sometimes will rub people the wrong way, as this has become a instant gratification society...
These polls mean only one thing in short, people in general are stupid, gullible, and short sited...
Beowulf
09-19-2005, 02:55 PM
My Mom has a friend in Baton Rouge who keeps telling her about how these refugees pour in. They refuse to work or help themselves yet we as a society have been pretty much forced into helping them out. As if a lazyfare check wasn't enough. My feelings are simple, "if someone won't help themselves, why should I step up to help them?"
They want their city cleaned up. I say we take these people and put them to work doing just that. I see alot of able bodied people on CNN crying for help that could do the job. If they can control a shovel to clear out the dirt and mud, that's something. I'm willing to bet that some of these people are more talented than they let on.
Eagle1
09-19-2005, 03:19 PM
maybe if bush would nut up and act like he is from texas instead of just saying it people would have confidence in him and be proud to have a strong leader
Pendragon_6
09-19-2005, 03:25 PM
I recall then Gov. Bush stating in 2000 that he didn't pay attention to polls.
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