Arctic Ice Levels to New All Time Low

[Tumblehome]

"For the fourth consecutive year, NSIDC and NASA scientists using satellite data have tracked a stunning reduction in arctic sea ice at the end of the northern summer. The persistence of near-record low extents leads the group to conclude that Arctic sea ice is likely on an accelerating, long-term decline.

“Considering the record low amounts of sea ice this year leading up to the month of September, 2005 will almost certainly surpass 2002 as the lowest amount of ice cover in more than a century,” said Julienne Stroeve of NSIDC. If current rates of decline in sea ice continue, the summertime Arctic could be completely ice-free well before the end of this century."

The rest of this article can be found here:

http://nsidc.org/news/press/20050928_trendscontinue.html

[Naturalized-Texan]

So, what's your point? The Greenland Ice Cap and the Antarctic Ice Cap are thickening. Ice levels all over the world thin and thicken all the time.

[Aric2000]

ALL time low? I don't think so, the arctic and other icecaps have melted and refrozen hundreds if not thousands of times.

This is NOTHING new, and nothing to get all worked up about...

[UnkHiram]

My Glass of Dr Pepper is at an "All Time Low" or at least at an all time low since the last time I refilled it.

[Tumblehome]

So, what's your point? The Greenland Ice Cap and the Antarctic Ice Cap are thickening. Ice levels all over the world thin and thicken all the time.

I made no point. I wrote nothing. I just quoted the article. If you want to know its point perhaps you should read it.

[markus3622]

I made no point. I wrote nothing. I just quoted the article. If you want to know its point perhaps you should read it.

I also wondered why NT asked you that. It's as if everything has to be political, even science.

[Wyatt_Junker]

I also wondered why NT asked you that. It's as if everything has to be political, even science.

And even movies that suck with Kevin Costner sipping a cup of his own urine. And that's the real dilemma here; how are we going to make creative drinks out of piss? Like, say, the magarita. The piss magarita. Instead of coating the cup rim with sea salt, perhaps a fine layer of feces? I mean to stay consistent and all...

[ThomasIsUnderrated]

I also wondered why NT asked you that. It's as if everything has to be political, even science.

Look, we're not idiots here. Other ice caps are thickening. The 100-year doom-and-gloom predictions are based on computer models, which are fine for mathematics and engineering, but are notoriously poor when it comes to atmospheric science. A "political" response is appropriate, because this article and this research were motivated by people with a political agenda. Climatology is the most politicized branch of science out there today.

[Naturalized-Texan]

I made no point. I wrote nothing. I just quoted the article. If you want to know its point perhaps you should read it.
The article is nothing but politics - the politics of the "global warming" scam that is being used by unscrupulous politicians and junk scientists to promote world socialism under UN control. By posting that article, you are aiding and abetting that scam.

[DoctorDoom]

It's as if everything has to be political, even science.The whole global-warming shtick is political. Kyoto was political. The reason for posting the item is political. And no doubt the hoser blames it on Bush.

[sunsettommy]

I like this part where they use the time of the LITTLE ICE to bolster their thin report.:hahaha:

Has anyone seen how few substantial records they actually used in the report?




This summer, the legendary Northwest Passage through the Canadian Arctic from Europe to Asia was completely open except for a 60-mile swath of scattered ice floes. In earlier centuries, whole expeditions were lost as their crews tried to beat through thick ice and bitter cold. The Northeast Passage, north of the Siberian coast, was completely ice-free from August 15 through Septembe
This summer, the legendary Northwest Passage through the Canadian Arctic from Europe to Asia was completely open except for a 60-mile swath of scattered ice floes. In earlier centuries, whole expeditions were lost as their crews tried to beat through thick ice and bitter cold. The Northeast Passage, north of the Siberian coast, was completely ice-free from August 15 through September 28 (Figure 6: Satellite image of Northwest Passage, September 2005 (http://nsidc.org/news/press/20050928_trends_fig6.html)).

r 28 (Figure 6: Satellite image of Northwest Passage, September 2005 (http://nsidc.org/news/press/20050928_trends_fig6.html)).



Meanwhile nary a word about the OTHER 97% of the worlds GROWING ice packs of Greenland and Antartica.

:whistle:

[sunsettommy]

I also wondered why NT asked you that. It's as if everything has to be political, even science.

I wonder why they and the media continue to ignore the long term growing Antartica Ice cap?

I wonder why they are now silent when it was recently revealed that Greenland ice is now growing.

Maybe that is why they center so much on the Artic these days? :whistle:

Has it ever occurred to you that a larger open surface of the ocean will absorb more incoming sunlight and warm it slightly,which in time increase snowfall in the Canadian Artic and Greenland areas?

Then too there was little talk of TOTAL Artic ice mass.How thick is it and so fourth.I see little here to really tell me they have it well understood.They instead seemed to concentrate on SURFACE area.This is only one way of a few to measure the ice in the water.Surely you knew that.

Then finally this is an UNPUBLISHED paper,maybe if they do actually publish it first before trying to leverage the mostly clueless masses opinion through the media.I would have more confidence in them.

Ciao.

[sunsettommy]

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40852000/gif/_40852824_arctic_ice_melting_map203.gif

The image came from this article:

<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=629 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD colSpan=3>Arctic ice 'disappearing quickly'

</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=416><!-- S BO --><!-- S IBYL --><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=416 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=bottom>By Richard Black
Environment Correspondent, BBC News website
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4290340.stm


Now did you notice that virtually all the ice shrinkage is on the Russian side of the Artic ocean?

Does anyone wonder why?

[DesertFox]

Slavic women are hot?

[PaulRevere]

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40852000/gif/_40852824_arctic_ice_melting_map203.gif

The image came from this article:

<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=629 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD colSpan=3>Arctic ice 'disappearing quickly'



</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=416><!-- S BO --><!-- S IBYL --><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=416 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=bottom>By Richard Black

Environment Correspondent, BBC News website

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4290340.stm


Now did you notice that virtually all the ice shrinkage is on the Russian side of the Artic ocean?

Does anyone wonder why?
The Gulf Stream veers northwestwards across the Atlantic bringing warmer water past Britain and, up the coast of Norway and into the Arctic Ocean.

[Naturalized-Texan]

In earlier centuries, whole expeditions were lost as their crews tried to beat through thick ice and bitter cold.
Of course. That was during the 500-year Little Ice Age. I remember that 40 years or so ago, an American nuclear submarine surfaced at the North Pole where the ice was so thin that it was almost non-existent.

[DesertFox]

I read once where John Wayne had ice cubes made from pack ice. Evidently they are so tightly packed that it takes a one-inch cube most all night to melt. Perfect for mixed drinks.

[DeclinetoState]

Slavic women are hot?http://www.russian-women-for-brides.com/voronezh/large-russian-women_files/voronezh-women-1043_1.jpg http://www.odessamarriage.com/i/russian_women_odessa.jpg http://arussianromance.com/sochi_art/trip2001/girls_inna_stair_pan600.jpg

I'm sure this explains all the heat on the Asian-Eastern European side of the world.

[DesertFox]

Damn. Now I'M sweating.

[DesertFox]

Little Ice Age I remember that period too, Tex!

Us old farts go so much in common.