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Pendragon_6
10-02-2005, 08:04 AM
Pakistani pre-teen refused to renounce faith during assault

October 2, 2005
By Jeremy Reynalds
© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com

A 12-year-old Christian girl was reportedly abducted and gang raped by 16 Muslim men in Pakistan.

The alleged offence occurred at Rawlpindi, bordering Pakistans capital city of Islamabad.

According to a news release from the All Pakistan Minorities Alliance (APMA), Sara Tabasum escaped two weeks later while she was being transported to a new location. APMA reported Tabasum managed to jump out of the vehicle and escape while it was on a busy road. Although the youngster was pursued, she still managed to reach her family.


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WND (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=46614)

UhUhNoWay
10-02-2005, 10:22 AM
Thank God her family is Christian and doesn't do that whole honor killing thing.

UnkHiram
10-02-2005, 10:29 AM
More Evidence that Islam is the Religion of Peace and we just misunderstand them.

Logic
10-02-2005, 11:43 AM
More Evidence that Islam is the Religion of Peace and we just misunderstand them.

I don't think that rape is condoned by Islam. Miserable scum comes in all creeds and colors.

medved
10-02-2005, 12:46 PM
According to a news release from the All Pakistan Minorities Alliance (APMA), Sara Tabasum escaped two weeks later...



I hate to be the one to bring this up, but that's too late for Plan-B...

What if the girl gets pregnant from such an experience and doesn't want to be having children for the benefit of such people??

Crusader
10-02-2005, 01:00 PM
I don't think that rape is condoned by Islam. Miserable scum comes in all creeds and colors.It seems as though Mohammed never said anything condemning the rape of non-Muslim women.:question:

UnkHiram
10-02-2005, 01:07 PM
I don't think that rape is condoned by Islam.
It is also not CONDEMED by this false religion

Miserable scum comes in all creeds and colors.
and apparently you will break land and speed records to defend every damn one of them.

Logic
10-02-2005, 01:13 PM
It seems as though Mohammed never said anything condemning the rape of non-Muslim women.:question:

Yahweh encouraged the rape of the Midianite women, to me that seems worse than ignoring an issue.

UnkHiram
10-02-2005, 01:14 PM
I don't think that rape is condoned by Islam. Miserable scum comes in all creeds and colors.

Come on Nazi Boy

Aren't you gonna explain to us now that if we would just Nuke Israel and make this Camel Farking Scumbags happy then this kind of thing wouldn't happen.

Logic
10-02-2005, 01:18 PM
It is also not CONDEMED by this false religion

False in what way? I consider all religions to be false.

and apparently you will break land and speed records to defend every damn one of them.

I don't care top support the Muslims, IMO the world would be a much better place without them. Their contributions fall far short of the harm they've caused. The OP implied that a tennet of Islam is to rape, which it isn't.

Logic
10-02-2005, 01:20 PM
Come on Nazi Boy

Aren't you gonna explain to us now that if we would just Nuke Israel and make this Camel Farking Scumbags happy then this kind of thing wouldn't happen.

I don't actually think we should nuke Israel. I just think we should discontinue supporting them for no good reason. Now, let's not run threads together. :)

UnkHiram
10-02-2005, 01:27 PM
I don't actually think we should nuke Israel. I just think we should discontinue supporting them for no good reason. Now, let's not run threads together. :)

Translation: Dont use my own words against me.

Logic
10-02-2005, 02:09 PM
Actually, I was just talking about how rape isn't something that Islam promotes.

You can use my words against me. However, you should realize that I don't actually support nuking Israel, I was just trying to make a point. :)

Crusader
10-02-2005, 02:12 PM
Yahweh encouraged the rape of the Midianite women, to me that seems worse than ignoring an issue.Hmm, can you cite the specific scriptural passage?:question:

Logic
10-02-2005, 02:27 PM
Hmm, can you cite the specific scriptural passage?:question:

I know that it's in Num 31, forget which verse(s).

DoctorDoom
10-02-2005, 03:29 PM
I know that it's in Num 31, forget which verse(s).Another atheist Bible "expert" expounds. Here are all the verses from Numbers 31 that mention women. Point out where God "encouraged" rape.

Num 31:9 And the children of Israel took all the women of Midian captives, and their little ones, and took the spoil of all their cattle, and all their flocks, and all their goods.
14 And Moses was wroth with the officers of the host, with the captains over thousands, and captains over hundreds, which came from the battle.
15 And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive?
16 Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to commit trespass against the LORD in the matter of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation of the LORD.
17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.
18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.
35 And thirty and two thousand persons in all, of women that had not known man by lying with him.

Nutrider99
10-02-2005, 03:42 PM
I don't think that rape is condoned by Islam. Miserable scum comes in all creeds and colors.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but Mohammed was a child rapist.

PrezLeefun
10-02-2005, 03:43 PM
I understand Logic's first post her and nothing is truly or outwardly wrong with it from an objective point of view. What follwed about the bible is crap.

As for this young girl my prayers are with her. Thats shameful- she is so brave.

Wyatt_Junker
10-02-2005, 04:00 PM
Miserable scum comes in all creeds and colors.

Mostly true, but Islam hasn't earned its right to use this particular cliché yet. It still has to cross the Bridge of Trolls, pass through the Haunted Forest of Enthe and locate the Secret Crystal of the Forgotten Unicorn. If it can do all these by sundown, I will forgive the Whahabbi all their beheadings, systematic organized rape rooms and institutional clitorectomies.

Time is ticking.

PatrioticAmerican
10-02-2005, 04:15 PM
Logic said, "False in what way? I consider all religions to be false."

Therein ends any consideration I may have had for your arguments. Click.

Logic
10-02-2005, 04:56 PM
18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

35 And thirty and two thousand persons in all, of women that had not known man by lying with him.

Those, plus these:

32 And the booty, the rest of the prey which the men of war had caught, was six hundred thousand and seventy thousand and five thousand sheep,

40 And the persons [were] sixteen thousand; of which the LORD'S tribute [was] thirty and two persons.


I have no idea what Eleazar and Moses did with the 32 young girls that they used as a tribute to Yahweh, I'd hate to think about it.

My interpretation of these verses paints a picture of Eleazar and Moses pimping out the young pretty Midianite girls to the horny soldiers. I can't think of any other reasons why they would ONLY keep the young girls. I'm sure they used them as servents as well.


Now that you're forcing me to search... here's another passage...

Judges 5



<DT>[b]30 <DD>Have they not sped? have they not divided the prey; to every man a damsel or two; to Sisera a prey of divers colours, a prey of divers colours of needlework, of divers colours of needlework on both sides, meet for the necks of them that take the spoil?


<DT>31<DD>So let all thine enemies perish, O LORD: but let them that love him be as the sun when he goeth forth in his might. And the land had rest forty years.</DD>


Why the hell would every man take "a damsel or two?"

DoctorDoom
10-03-2005, 07:33 AM
My interpretation of these verses paints a picture of Eleazar and Moses pimping out the young pretty Midianite girls to the horny soldiers. I can't think of any other reasons why they would ONLY keep the young girls. I'm sure they used them as servents as well.Until you read the whole Bible, rather than just the parts that you think support your atheistic PoV, and you see what the basis was for such things, you have no credibility.

The word you used was "rape", and you stated that God approved it. Prove it or shut the hell up. You pain-in-the-ass heathens are becoming tiresome.

medved
10-03-2005, 08:39 AM
False in what way? I consider all religions to be false.



Only problem is, doing away with all religion pretty much implies belief in evolution(ism), and that's been massively disproven over the last 100 years.

I view Christianity sort of the same way Churchill viewed democracy, i.e. as the worst religion there could possibly be except for all those other religions, INCLUDING evolutionism and "secular humanism".

Social Code
10-07-2005, 12:07 PM
40 And the persons [were] sixteen thousand; of which the LORD'S tribute [was] thirty and two persons.


I have no idea what Eleazar and Moses did with the 32 young girls that they used as a tribute to Yahweh, I'd hate to think about it.Where does it say that they were "young girls"? :unsmile:

PatrioticAmerican
10-07-2005, 10:46 PM
Really. Atheists sure spend a lot of time trying to disprove something that they don't believe exists. They should find themselves a more productive hobby, like licking stamps for their local ACLU chapter.

DesertFox
10-07-2005, 11:31 PM
Atheists just think they're braver than we religious nuts. They don't need Nobody to turn to or lean on and like that there.

They also think they're smarter than us since they doped out that they ain't no God or Guys with white beards up in the sky.

Which is wonderful until you live long enough to grasp a few key points about the world, such as, that what's wrong with it ain't fixable by human beans, and that's because the problem with the world is sin, and that human beans are sinful critters.

But you can't work out what "sin" is without looking up. And the curious thing about God is that some days He wears a beard, and other days He's bald, and other days He don't even look like a person at all. Another curious thing about Him is that if you look up, you're looking in the wrong place cuz you gotta look IN to find God. Which sorta takes you back to where you started -- looking at yourself -- but you need to see more than just your own little self, since there's rather More there than was ever dreamed of in your philosophy.

Some folks just never get that far.

Christianity don't save folks. Christ do. You don't need Christian religion to get saved, but it helps a lotta people get there.

Atheism is a strange religion. If God didn't exist, atheists would need to invent Him to be against. That's one way to define yourself. Another way is honestly to seek God. What you find is that He's been there all along and, what's more, you knew it all along. Denying God is like flashing the bird at your old man when he turns his back because you don't wanna do what he told you to do. Or calling your mom a bitch when you're outside of earshot. Rebellion.

Coming to grips with God is nothing more than coming to grips with yourself.

HomeschoolrsRUs
10-07-2005, 11:35 PM
DFox, somewhere in here (FC) is a thread re: intelligence ... you just proved you DEFINIELY have it (not that proof was needed, we all KNEW that, :smirky: ). You should post that in the Inspirational Verses thread, it truly is profound. Thanks for sharing that!

Blessings,
Hms

Kathy29
10-11-2005, 11:07 AM
This is happening in many other countries besides Pakistan. Australia, New Zealand, Norway and Sweden all have gangs of muslim men raping.

The women are sub-human, being infidel women, they have no more to say in the matter than a rock has to say in whether or not it is thrown.

Wolfcounsel
10-11-2005, 01:17 PM
"The women are sub-human, being infidel women, they have no more to say in the matter than a rock has to say in whether or not it is thrown." --Kathy29


Yet there is no shortage of those female dumbasses falling over themselves in a rush to marry one of the Moslem momma's boys, I'll bet.<!-- / message -->

DesertFox
10-11-2005, 05:30 PM
If you've seen a Muslim woman lately, you don't wonder that THEY are in no danger of rape.

omegatrump
10-13-2005, 08:41 PM
Actually, I was just talking about how rape isn't something that Islam promotes.

You can use my words against me. However, you should realize that I don't actually support nuking Israel, I was just trying to make a point. :)

You will have a very hard time making the point using a faulty premise.

Actually rape of underage Christian girls is condoned by Islam. Muhammad left his legacy as an example for his followers to emulate. In the case of this moon god promoter he took against her will an 8 or 9 year old girl, raped her, and held her as one of his wives. I need to check on it but I believe this girl was a Christian.

Wolfcounsel
10-13-2005, 09:25 PM
"I need to check on it but I believe this girl was a Christian." --omegatrump

I don't believe it's necessary. The sleaze bucket Mohammed, the chief camel humper who invented the cult of the moon god of death, was a pervert child molester. The religion of the child does not make Aisha, his child prisoner, younger or older. May the devil screw the "prophet" for all eternity.<!-- / message -->

omegatrump
10-14-2005, 08:45 AM
"I need to check on it but I believe this girl was a Christian." --omegatrump

I don't believe it's necessary. The sleaze bucket Mohammed, the chief camel humper who invented the cult of the moon god of death, was a pervert child molester. The religion of the child does not make Aisha, his child prisoner, younger or older. May the devil screw the "prophet" for all eternity.<!-- / message -->

You are right wolfcounsel, it doesn't matter what the girls religion was.

Lazarus
10-14-2005, 02:28 PM
Another atheist Bible "expert" expounds. Here are all the verses from Numbers 31 that mention women. Point out where God "encouraged" rape...Sic 'im, Doc...

Lazarus
10-14-2005, 02:38 PM
...I have no idea what Eleazar and Moses did with the 32 young girls that they used as a tribute to Yahweh, I'd hate to think about it...The key phrase here is "I have no idea", and there is where you should stop because that pretty much sums it up...

Before you start to quote the scriptures, in an attempt to throw cold water on our faith, I suggest you study them under a competent teacher trained in Isogogics and the original Hebrew text... Then you might learn the details of the passage in context...

Of course I know I am just speaking euphemisitically since you're intent is only to ridicule and find an opposing position to the Christians here... In truth you really dont care to know the truth - It wouldnt serve your purposes, would it?

Bluemoon_Rising
10-17-2005, 09:19 AM
I don't think that rape is condoned by Islam. Miserable scum comes in all creeds and colors.

These sorts of attitudes and acts prevail throughout the Islamic world. Muslims are barbarians.