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Patriot Heart
10-05-2005, 08:45 PM
YUCK!
Neighbour stops man being killed by own dogs</HEADLINE>
<BYLINE>By Dan Proudman and Malcolm Brown</BYLINE>
<DATE>October 6, 2005

<!--id:pagetools-wrap-->http://smh.com.au/ffximage/2005/10/05/dogbiteman_wideweb__430x308.jpg Lucky to be alive … Tony Spence is taken to John Hunter Hospital in Newcastle on Tuesday.
<SMALL>Photo: Simone de Peak</SMALL>



<BOD>When David Willis heard screams - "like a man howling" - echoing across his property, his instincts pushed him towards a neighbour's backyard to peer over the high metal fence.

Once there, he was faced with the shocking scene of three massive dogs biting into their owner, who lay prone next to an old Hills hoist in the yard of his home at Ellalong, in the Hunter Valley.

"They weren't attacking him, mate - they were eating him," Mr Willis said.
http://smh.com.au/news/national/neighbour-stops-man-being-killed-by-own-dogs/2005/10/05/1128191786588.html

HomeschoolrsRUs
10-05-2005, 08:51 PM
More needs to be known about those dogs and how he cared for them. What was their purpose? Were they being trained as guard dogs? Used for fighting? I can hardly believe they were "pets" as such.

There ARE some breeds that have the capability to turn like that, but MOST of the time it is NOT for "no reason." I'm NOT stupid enough to be one of those that thinks any dog is a good dog if loved and cared for, BUT there ARE some things that can certainly be triggers for such incidents.

Don't see how that can charge the owner, though, for having "dangerous" animals when the ones he owned weren't on the "list". Yes the were dangerous, but my question would be WHY were they dangerous...what made them that way?

Rink
10-05-2005, 09:14 PM
Lotta dingo mixed dogs in Australia, but then dingos are small dogs and as this article states these were massive dogs so...

More is needed to know just what KIND of dogs they are and what prompted this 'attack'

HomeschoolrsRUs
10-05-2005, 09:20 PM
More is needed to know just what KIND of dogs they are and what prompted this 'attack'

Got one of the two answers for ya, Rink: "pure-bred Johnson American bulldogs" from the article

http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:ivHm_yfF7SQJ:www.boydsbulldogs.com/photos/Jordbob.jpg (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.boydsbulldogs.com/photos/Jordbob.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.boydsbulldogs.com/thebreed.htm&h=502&w=480&sz=41&tbnid=ivHm_yfF7SQJ:&tbnh=127&tbnw=121&hl=en&start=1&prev=/images%3Fq%3DJohnson%2BAmerican%2Bbulldog%26svnum% 3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8) ( pulled from Google, NOT one of the actual dogs )

Lazarus
10-06-2005, 09:00 AM
I agree with Homegirl... This is unnatural for pets that are cared for and loved... This is the behavior of abused animals...

Teenager
10-06-2005, 10:48 AM
Those kinds of dogs are naturally mean.

Interesting sidenote. My dad believes that Rottweilers should be wiped off the face of the earth, simply because they are one of the most vicious "pets" alive.

Peachdiane
10-06-2005, 11:02 AM
Papa needs a huge reality check then. A properly bred, socialized and trained Rottie is not inherently vicious.

dPrasse
10-06-2005, 11:20 AM
Those kinds of dogs are naturally mean.

Interesting sidenote. My dad believes that Rottweilers should be wiped off the face of the earth, simply because they are one of the most vicious "pets" alive.

Naturally mean ?? News to me ! A mechanic friend of mine has 2 of them ...big sissy dogs ! Also met 2 of them at a truck stop ... 2 more sissy dogs , scared of my then 3 month old puppy ....

Rotties wiped out ?

OH no !!!

Teenager
10-06-2005, 11:22 AM
Naturally mean ?? News to me ! A mechanic friend of mine has 2 of them ...big sissy dogs ! Also met 2 of them at a truck stop ... 2 more sissy dogs , scared of my then 3 month old puppy ....

Rotties wiped out ?

OH no !!!<!-- / message --><!-- attachments -->

LOL!!!

Hey now, that's my dad yer talkin about!

Cute puppie, btw.

UhUhNoWay
10-06-2005, 11:26 AM
Maybe the dogs were ill. I just can't imagine dogs turning against their owner unless A. The owner was abusive/otherwise neglectful or B the animal was ill.

DesertFox
10-06-2005, 11:36 AM
The dog's handsomer than the guy in them pix :question:

UhUhNoWay
10-06-2005, 11:36 AM
Rotties are excellent family dogs providing they are raised and loved by the family from puppydom. Where you get into trouble, and it isn't just with Rotties, is when you adopt an older dog without knowing it's prior history...If previous owners abused them etc. They bond mightily to their primary caregiver and will protect them...which is why it is a good idea to get the entire family involved when raising any animal, so the animal knows the entire family is part of the 'pack' and is to be revered and protected.
Adopting older dogs can be rewarding as well, providing you know the background of them and you have the patience it takes to deal with a willful toddler.

dPrasse
10-06-2005, 11:45 AM
The dog's handsomer than the guy in them pix :question:

HEY NOW !
Good thing dogs love their owners despite our shortcomings !

dPrasse
10-06-2005, 11:51 AM
They bond mightily to their primary caregiver and will protect them...which is why it is a good idea to get the entire family involved when raising any animal, so the animal knows the entire family is part of the 'pack' and is to be revered and protected.

Vey true ... Samson was on the road with Peach and I and he two youngest boys for over a week before introducing the older son ... Samson thinks that the oldest son is lower in the pak order and wont listen to him ...

and you have the patience it takes to deal with a willful toddler.

bwwaaahhhhaaaaaaaahhhhhaaaaaaaaa yes , Samson is just like a toddler ...
the other day , he went into an upstairs oom that had a window open ... he was on the porch roof !! GEEZ!

Lazarus
10-06-2005, 12:32 PM
Those kinds of dogs are naturally mean.

Interesting sidenote. My dad believes that Rottweilers should be wiped off the face of the earth, simply because they are one of the most vicious "pets" alive.My neighbor across the street had a Rottweiler... She used to bark violently at anyone who walked past their house... One day I was in my yard beside my house when I looked up and saw her standing in my yard - she had gotten out of her fence... Our eyes met at the same time and I had only moments to get inside my backyard fence as she charged with fangs bared - I just knew I was a dead man... But the fence was of no use because when she hit it I was visciously mauled by her slobbery tongue as she bathed me in doggie lovins, her tailless-butt wigglin in a high-speed frenzy...:grin:

From then on anytime I walked by her fence and she barked at me I went over to the fence and she would hop up and we would have a doggie love-fest... Her name was Lily - Appropriate for such a blood-thirsty killer...;)

Look! He's goin for the throat!!!

Peachdiane
10-06-2005, 12:37 PM
But the fence was of no use because when she hit it I was visciously mauled by her slobbery tongue as she bathed me in doggie lovins, her tailless-butt wigglin in a high-speed frenzy...:grin:

:hahaha:

When I was a kid, dobermans were the "baddies" at the time. My best friend's doberman would charge me and knock me down every time with doggie love. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/dbolles/kiss.gif

I was over almost everyday so she (Lacey... another vicious name) musta thought I was part of her pack. ;)

HomeschoolrsRUs
10-06-2005, 01:31 PM
There's NOTHING wrong with owning rottys (or dobermans, MY personal doggie favorite) -- MY rotty is nothing but a big baby, and she loves her family with all her heart. I wouldn't trade her for a MILLION "good" family pets. Rottweillers make EXCELLENT assistance dogs too, and they have been used in nursing homes as well.

NO breed should be condemned because of the actions/behaviors of SOME. The way they are raised, their particular breeding, and other mitigating factors DO have a significant impact upon the type of dog/pet they become.

Anyway, our rotty is the best in the world! Here she is with her "sister" Taffy (a Jack Russell / min-pin mix, and Holly Terror (play on words, cuz she's a big baby) . . .

Rink
10-06-2005, 02:24 PM
Those dogs that attacked that guy MAY have lost their minds.

Yes believe me animals can go insane as well, I once saw a Saddlebred horse loose its mind literally.

The trainers wife was taking care of the horse when he just up and grabbed her by the shoulder and threw her into the corner and wouldnt let her leave, the stablehands had to help get her out of there (all the while that horse REALLY wanted to kill her) and those people didnt abuse that horse, that horse just up and lost its mind, lost weight, and just went plain insane.

The trainer asked the owner to remove the horse after that incident from his stables.

(And yes I once rode that horse, he was a Gorgeous horse in a half for a saddlebred)

Sad things like that happen.

I just wouldnt put it past that similar thing happened with this guys dogs.

PatrioticAmerican
10-06-2005, 04:30 PM
Certain breeds are more dangerous than others. Regardless of the environments. Dogs are dogs, not humans. Even a chihuahua can hurt you if they bite. Rotts can killl you, if they bit your neck.

It's for that reason I think rotts, pitbulls, and other large dogs that were bred for aggressiveness be licensed only to responsible owners. If an owner doesn't meet certain criteria, they don't legally get to own such dogs.

dPrasse
10-06-2005, 05:45 PM
It's for that reason I think rotts, pitbulls, and other large dogs that were bred for aggressiveness be licensed only to responsible owners. If an owner doesn't meet certain criteria, they don't legally get to own such dogs.

Just what "other " large breeds do u include ?

I was attacked by a "smallish" family farm dog years ago and he took my ear off requiring 56 stitches to put me back together .... this dog was a mutt , cetainly not of any aggressive behavior breeding ...

I had a 2 yr old Australian Sheppard that went "nuts" this summer and had to be put down ... I dont think Aussie Sheppards are considered "bred for aggressiveness" ....

HomeschoolrsRUs
10-06-2005, 06:01 PM
"bred for aggressiveness" ....

Dp, I think that's the point, if you don't mind my two cents. There ARE breeders, an unscrupulous lot, that breed for aggressiveness (like for selling to business owners who want a "guard dog" and so forth). There are ALSO those breeders who are opportunists, who will inbreed their dogs just to produce litters faster for quicker sales. I was a victim of one such breeder, and bought a doby that I ended up having to put down because of her breeding. I LOVED that dog, but she developed a condition linked to her breeding (mother to son).

I have had good old "muts" that turned bad, and I've had pure-bred dogs (and when I say dog, I ain't talking no little yapper) that were sweeter than honey. People who LOVE their pets, who carefully choose their pets, who choose pets which are appropriate for their households and families, THOSE are the people you never hear the "horror" stories about. MOST of the awful stories involve animals who were either mis-bred, mistreated, or mishandled. Are there exceptions? There's ALWAYS exceptions, but for the most part I get real fed up with people who generalize (not directed at anyone here) about "certain" breeds because of a bad rep, bad publicity, or a bad experience.

My mother was bitten by a doberman pinscher (NOT mine) when I was a younster. Funny, I've grown up to LOVE the doby breed, and as soon as there's room in my home (we currently have the rotty, jack-pin, savannah moniter, two geckos, and a thoroughbred horse), I'll have my OWN doby (again -- I've owned 4).

Rink
10-06-2005, 06:14 PM
Funny you state people who carefully choose the breed of dog you dont hear horror stories about.

My mother and I Once CAREFULLY choose a Siberian Husky for this house, and we went to a 'reputed' AKC breeder that claimed her dogs were 100% Siberian Husky.

The dog we had turned out to have BIG problems with aggressive/dominant traits, so much so that I was 'the' only one that could handle that dog, for example 'Misha" (his name) would grab one of my socks and dive under my bed, if I tried to retrieve my sock I'd get menacing growls and biting and snapping with teeth bared towards me, it ended up my using a broomstick to poke at the dog from the opposite side of the bed, to such an extent he had to vacate from underneath my bed, and when he did that he'd drop the sock so I could quickly grab it from him.

He bit my grandmother and we finally then had to have him put down.

He was SUPPOSED to have been a 100% Siberian Husky but afterwards I saw that most pics of Siberian Huskys did NOT look like him, Misha looked more like a Wolf-dog than a Siberian Husky, the other telling hint was the woman suddenly up and ran off to Alaska on a sudden and unexpected notice, which makes me think that the AKC registry found out she had lied to them about her dogs breeding.

Siberian Huskies were supposed to have been of the height of 20 to 21 inches from floor to whithers, her dogs were Not that small they were big if not bigger, some white colored ones were friggin huge.

So sometimes no matter WHAT you do, no matter how careful you try to find a decent dog with the AKC label and breeding you can get scammed by an unscrupulous breeder who is not only lying to you the customer but also to AKC.

Had it happen to me.
Wont ever happen again.

HomeschoolrsRUs
10-06-2005, 06:36 PM
Funny you state people who carefully choose the breed of dog you dont hear horror stories about.

Hence my disclaimer: "Are there exceptions? There's ALWAYS exceptions" :smirky:

Peachdiane
10-06-2005, 07:03 PM
There's ALWAYS exceptions, but for the most part I get real fed up with people who generalize (not directed at anyone here) about "certain" breeds because of a bad rep, bad publicity, or a bad experience.

Right you are! It really chaps my hide to see HOAs, and even entire cities and townships that jump on the "Breed Banning Wagon." They see a black and tan dog. Oh my! It's aggressive! A Staffordshire Bull Terrier? Oh lawd yes, "Bull Terrier" in their name, oh they must be evil!!! Any dog with a broad head or cropped ears is game for the breed banning fanatics.... Never mind that Cocker Spaniels and other small breeds have unbelievable bite records, yet people don't panic at the thought of facing one on the street.

My personal belief is that bad dogs are not born. There is no genetic mutation present in certain dog breeds that make them turn against their owner or reach out and bite their latest victim. Bad dogs are created, usually by the people who raise them, and also by unscrupulous breeders.

So, what will happen when these breed banning fanatics have their way and the latest "dangerous" breed is eradicated? There will be no more Rottys, so what will take their place? When all the Dobermans are gone, what breed will be next? Golden Retrievers, mark my words.

We're calling for banning of breeds and euthanizing pets on sight when someone's not happy. What we REALLY need is to enforce the laws dealing with animal cruelty, neglect, and preventing someone convicted from owning another pet again.

Rink
10-06-2005, 07:08 PM
One thing I dont like is Wolf-Dog mixes, with that kind of tampering you're bound to have trouble in spades.

Wolves are NOT domestic, they shouldnt be placed in a domestic setting and they should NEVER be bred to domestic dogs because the wolf instincts can be a HUGE problem.

Only other dog I wont go near is pit bulls.

As history notes Pit Bulls were bred specifically for pit fighting.

Other bull terriers are ok but pits NO thank you, they have too much aggressive tendencies bred into them, sure they can be sweet dogs but it can happen only once with little kids and their instincts can trigger in at the drop of the hat.

Heard of people who loved their pits and had em for years and then they have kids and for years no prob then Boom just take once for a pit to go after a child.

My Siberian husky acted strange with my youngest niece when she and her mom visited.

Mom told me to watch Misha because he was looking at my niece in an odd menacing way.

IF you are aware of your dog's behavior then fine, but there ARE some people that just dont catch such subtle instinctive dog-language in time to prevent an attack.

Not calling for banning breeds, I just avoid what I dont trust thats all.

and what I dont trust is a rarity.

Wolf-Dog mixes and pit bulls.

dPrasse
10-06-2005, 07:25 PM
for example 'Misha" (his name) would grab one of my socks and dive under my bed, if I tried to retrieve my sock I'd get menacing growls and biting and snapping with teeth bared towards me, it ended up my using a broomstick to poke at the dog from the opposite side of the bed, to such an extent he had to vacate from underneath my bed, and when he did that he'd drop the sock so I could quickly grab it from him.

And why did you keep such a dog alive ?
It is dogs like that that usually end up biting an innocent people ...

He bit my grandmother and we finally then had to have him put down.


Finally ? If a dog is not even obedient to its owner , it is out of control ....

Siberian Huskies were supposed to have been of the height of 20 to 21 inches from floor to whithers, her dogs were Not that small they were big if not bigger, some white colored ones were friggin huge.

Grandfather had a purebred Husky from a dog sled breeder ... he wasa real sweety ... and was about 24"

So sometimes no matter WHAT you do, no matter how careful you try to find a decent dog with the AKC label

Agreed .. that is the prob with dog laws that try to single out "evil" dogs ...
just who is the "judge" of "evil" dogs and "good " dog owners " ?

Somebody hand picked by the President ?

UhUhNoWay
10-06-2005, 07:54 PM
Rink that's probably pretty common (cross breeding dogs and wolves) I saw one the other day at the animal hospital it was HUGE!!! Beautiful animal, it's back came to at least his owner's elbow and she wasn't a petite woman. She was however, a older woman (fit but older) and she handled that big guy just fine (but only because he was well behaved otherwise, I don't think ANYONE would have been able to handle that hound)
I don't guess there is anyway to tell (except for behavior) if a cross breed has more of the wolf traits, or more of the dog traits...and just like all other so called dangerous breeds, I think it's more of an individual thing. We've had all kinds of dogs over the years, all sizes, some purebred some mutts...and the funny thing is, the most 'vicious' were two terrier mutts. One was poodle/terrier and one was Lhasa Apso/ terrier..they never hurt anyone in the family...but if you raised your voice, or raised your hand, to anyone in the family, they'd bare their teeth, growl and would actually leap up and snap at anyone..threatening . Excellent dogs all of them. My breed of choice lately is greyhounds..adopted one and got hooked. When he passed away, we adopted two more. I pretty much love most pet type animals...'cept rodents, and birds (who are essentially rodents with wings)

Peachdiane
10-06-2005, 08:04 PM
I pretty much love most pet type animals...'cept rodents, and birds (who are essentially rodents with wings)

OMG!!! There exists someone else besides me who dislikes birds. I feel faint....

PatrioticAmerican
10-06-2005, 08:20 PM
Mastiff would be one. Dogs that in the past were bred for war or as attack guard dogs would be the only ones I'm talking about. If a question arises about dobies and German sheps, then I would hope common sense would prevail.

The only other option is not to have any ownship restrictions, but then deadly incidences will simply occur at a higher rate. It's unfortunate irresponsible owners and drug dealers and dog fight promoters create these problems. Loving, law abiding owners then get bad reps through association.

Dog banning is not what I'm talking about, either. But, I do think certain breeds should only be licensed to people who can somehow show they are responsible citizens. How they would show this would need to be determined. Like I said, the alternative is to not do anything and live with the deaths that result from the wrong people exploiting or abusing those types of dogs.

dPrasse
10-06-2005, 08:27 PM
If a question arises about dobies and German sheps, then I would hope common sense would prevail.

Common Sense ?? Are you mixing govt regulation and Common Sense ?

:hahaha:

Rink
10-06-2005, 08:31 PM
I DO think Wolf-dog mixes should be banned from breeding, that just is a HUGE mistake to do such a thing.

Otherwise If a person wants to own a breed that has violent tendencies then thats THEIR problem.

But wolf-dog mixes is a big mistake that should never have been allowed to happen.

Sorry, just as much as I wouldnt go near a dingo-dog mix either, mixing domestic dogs with wild dogs is just asking for trouble.

Now PA talkin bout war dog breeds have you heard of Akitas??

Akitas are a Japanese dog bred specifically For warfare, those dogs dont warn you, or growl or bare their teeth, if they dont like you they'll just chomp ya, period.

Chows I heard were also a volatile dog in their own right.

Only thing I would advocate in 'bannings' would be the breeding of Wolf-dog mixes.

Wild should stay wild and mixing domestic with wild dogs just isnt normal or natural.

Just as much as I wouldnt be caught dead with a lizard, alligator, snake, tiger, liger, lion et al.

Leave the wildlife out of the equation and I'm fine.

dPrasse
10-06-2005, 08:40 PM
Rink , We had a Dingo for a farm dog for years ... He was Dingo/Blue Healer cross ... best pig chasing dog I've eve seen ... and goofy as all get out ... bet never a threat ....

I'll see if I can find a pic of Tex ....

HomeschoolrsRUs
10-06-2005, 09:23 PM
OMG!!! There exists someone else besides me who dislikes birds. I feel faint....

http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/images/icons/wave.gif Peach, make that three. My Gramma had a parrot when I was a youngster, bit my finger BAD. Ever since, I have never cared for birds whatsoever.



Reptiles, however . . . :smirky: Here's our Savannah Monitor named Toga! Toga! (looks are deceiving though, this pic is about 6 months ago, he is now almost 2 feet long, and will probably get between 3-5 feet in length. He is my son's, and he is like one of the family. What a hoot this critter is! We need to take a new pic of him. Up until recently, my son would carry him with us where ever we go, in the big pocket of his pants (he has those kinds of pants that have huge pockets all over the place). Toga! has been to Pizza Hut, the Mall, Walmart, and even to MasterCuts while my son got his hair trimmed.

dPrasse
10-06-2005, 09:31 PM
HomeSchool ...

I just "captured" a gray tree frog on the wall of a local Subway restuarant ... he is now inside with bunches of crickets ...

I used to have an anole , he went with me in my shirt pocket ....
also had a painted turtle ...

Peach likes Tarantula's ... not me ...I dunt like creepy crawlies !

HomeschoolrsRUs
10-06-2005, 09:39 PM
HomeSchool ...

I just "captured" a gray tree frog on the wall of a local Subway restuarant ... he is now inside with bunches of crickets ...

I used to have an anole , he went with me in my shirt pocket ....
also had a painted turtle ...

Peach likes Tarantula's ... not me ...I dunt like creepy crawlies !

Dp,
Our house is a critter's haven. My son is ALWAYS catching something, trying to rehabilitate some animal. We have three green tree frogs that are "unofficial" members of our house ... they reside under our outside light on the side of the house eating all the stray bugs. One of them got in tonight, somehow, and my daughter had to catch him and put him back under the light. We have crickets too ... they are pinhead crickets kept for the geckos, as well as mealworms. We've had baby squirrels, birds, hermit crabs, and a broad-headed skink, as well as stray dogs, cats, and EVEN a baby pig! I think there is an invisible sign on our front fence that says "bring your strays and unwanted animals here" with a big flashing neon sign pointing down our drive, :smirky: .

HOWEVER, I simply draw the LINE at spiders and snakes (ooh that reminds me of that song ... :whistle: I don't llike spiders & snakes, and that ain't what it takes .... I think Jim Stafford sang that)

dPrasse
10-06-2005, 09:45 PM
He He He

HomeschoolrsRUs
10-06-2005, 09:51 PM
Awww, adorable! We haven't had a raccoon around here .... probably because of all the dogs (my MIL & SIL behind me, we live on a family compound, have two blue heelers/cattle dogs, so they pretty much keep the raccoons at bay, as well as the armadillos).

We did have a baby boar pig wander into our yard. We kept him for a couple of days. We called the wildlife people to find out what to do with him, but then a neighbor showed up claiming the piglet was theirs. Reluctantly we let them have it .... how HEARTBROKEN we were to find out they slaughtered that little fellow because he broke out of his cage! They were raising/fattening him up to put him on the spit!

dPrasse
10-06-2005, 09:59 PM
Blue healers are "heck" on critters !

I raised one coon a few years ago ... then last spring I found 2 that were left behind ....
the female had lil ones this spring and raised a nice lil family ....

the baby pig was a 12 oz runt at birth .... grew into 230 lbs of bacon !

Peachdiane
10-06-2005, 10:03 PM
Homes, people have phobias of heights, snakes, spiders, clowns, etc. Mine is the flying rodents. I get anxious if they fly around when I'm eating outside. When I was 10, I let a goose chase me out in the street and got hit by a car. I also don't like feathers...people don't understand so I stopped trying to explain.

Toga is a cutie! I saw a water dragon the other day while buying crickets for our frog but it was too much money. :( Anyway here's our froggie...

HomeschoolrsRUs
10-06-2005, 10:14 PM
Homes, people have phobias of heights, snakes, spiders, clowns, etc. Mine is the flying rodents. I get anxious if they fly around when I'm eating outside. When I was 10, I let a goose chase me out in the street and got hit by a car. I also don't like feathers...people don't understand so I stopped trying to explain.

Toga is a cutie! I saw a water dragon the other day buying crickets for our frog but it was too much money. :( Anyway here's our froggie...


Cool Frog! Boy would my li'l Bubba like HIM. Right now he has his eye on an exotic tortoise at our favorite reptile shop .... critter is $169 if you can believe it! The dude that manages the place is a personal friend, and is who we actually got Toga! from.

You wouldn't like it much 'round here, cause we DEFINITELY have bats (flying rodents, LOL). I can't stand birds ... we actually had one for a while, but NOT because I wanted it. Was amazing (remember the invisible sign & flashing neon arrow I mentioned above, :smirky: ?) I was sitting in our recliner watching telly (I'm somewhat claustrophobic, so I ALWAYS have our front door open with the screen door closed, so I can see outside). Anyway, this motion caught my eye outside the door ... a blue parakeet just flew up and landed on the railing of our porch, out of nowhere! The kids went outside and it immediately flew back and forth between their hands. My MIL has quail, and had an extra bird cage, so my kids caught him. We put up flyers and took out ads to see if anyone lost a parakeet, but never found an owner. I let them keep him for a while, but finally I could stand it no more, so we gave him to the wife of one of Bubba's cousins -- a real win, win scenario, they LOVE him, and he is OUT of MY house, LOL.

Peachdiane
10-06-2005, 10:34 PM
You wouldn't like it much 'round here, cause we DEFINITELY have bats (flying rodents, LOL).

Oh no! I'm fine with bats. Go figure!

That must be a very special tortoise!

Rink
10-07-2005, 03:40 AM
All those are not 'dangerous' wildlife, but the ones I dont like are the alligators kept as pets, snakes, and such.

Now racoons, people have kept them as pets but one must realize raccoons can carry rabies, same with skunks.

Thats the danger of having those kind of wildlife.

With lizards etc you have the dangers of salmonella, (as long as you wash real good then fine) but I'm just not the 'dragon' loving type lol thats all.

Turtles are ok, frogs too, my great granmpa had a treefrog that he named 'jake', greatgrampa would go sit out on his porch and then stomp his foot and call 'here jake, here jake' and out came the frog and sat on his foot lol!

When greatgrampa moved he took jake with him but then jake dissapeard and he thinks the rattlesnakes got poor ole jake.

I wouldnt mind havin a small aquarium of fish.

someday mebbe.

Peachdiane
10-07-2005, 06:45 AM
but I'm just not the 'dragon' loving type lol thats all.

Don't tell Pendragon! I love draggies!

Rink
10-07-2005, 06:51 AM
Um I meant them lizard-dragons people own silly :P

dPrasse
10-07-2005, 08:09 AM
Ah , common Rink ... we just be having a barn yard ho down !

Riverboat
10-07-2005, 08:30 AM
I don't llike spiders & snakesI'm okay with anything that eats cockroaches and mosquitos. I'm especially fond of spiders, but I want them out where I can SEE them, which means NOT a recluse, species or otherwise. Bats eat mosquitos by the hundreds. I've never seen one around here, but I'd build them a home if they'd come.

Rink
10-07-2005, 05:46 PM
I'm okay with anything that eats cockroaches and mosquitos. I'm especially fond of spiders, but I want them out where I can SEE them, which means NOT a recluse, species or otherwise. Bats eat mosquitos by the hundreds. I've never seen one around here, but I'd build them a home if they'd come.

LOL that reminds me RVB At the old house where I used to live in till 1996, we had a bat get Into the house via the open fireplace, LOL the cat was trying to catch it, the dogs were yelping and hiding and dad was trying to nail it with.... (get this) a FLYSWATTER! LMAO!!! :hahaha:

Now those are memories ! :D

dPrasse
10-07-2005, 06:02 PM
A Flyswatter ?

every one knows you need a tennis racket !

'boat ... we always had the Brown Recluse in the cattle barn ... they loved to crawl into raincoats and jackets ... I've had seveal bites in my armpit area after I squeezed them in my sleeve ...

dad is allergic to them big time ...

Peachdiane
10-07-2005, 06:58 PM
The bat scene in Great Outdoors was priceless:

Kate Craig: Ahh!
[Kate and Roman run out of their bedroom]
Roman: What?
Kate Craig: It touched me!
Roman: It's been touching you for 12 years, you never freak!
Kate Craig: Not you!
[Kate hits Roman on the arm]
Kate Craig: A thing.
Roman: What thing?
Chet: [Comes out of his bedroom, along with the rest of the family, and turns on the lights] What's going on?
Kate Craig: That thing!
[Points to a bat]
Roman: Oh, it's just a little sparrow.
Kate Craig: C'mon Roman, it's got ears!
[Everyone screams and runs out of the cabin]

Riverboat
10-07-2005, 11:32 PM
we always had the Brown Recluse in the cattle barn ... they loved to crawl into raincoats and jackets ... I've had seveal bites in my armpit area after I squeezed them in my sleeve ...I don't WANT to meet someone who kills recluse spiders in his armpits. He might put my head in a squeeze I'll never get out of!

Peachdiane
10-08-2005, 06:38 AM
I don't WANT to meet someone who kills recluse spiders in his armpits. He might put my head in a squeeze I'll never get out of!

The way he's been pumping iron lately, he just might! Ouch! :munch:

dPrasse
10-08-2005, 06:47 AM
I don't WANT to meet someone who kills recluse spiders in his armpits. He might put my head in a squeeze I'll never get out of!

it surely was not something I did for sh!ts and giggles! :djd: