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Etaoin
10-19-2005, 06:30 AM
Dollars for Dictators
A lawsuit alleges Oil for Food-like corruption in the Congo Republic.
BY CLAUDIA ROSETT
Wednesday, October 19, 2005 12:01 a.m. EDT
Following last month's United Nations world summit, the poverty professionals are hard at work, having just marked World Poverty Eradication Day with powwows at U.N. offices around the globe and calls for global taxation to fulfill the U.N.'s "millennium development goals," which propose to halve poverty by the year 2015. Among the participants have been Venezuela's President Hugo Chavez and Zimbabwe's President Robert Mugabe, the despotic duo, who took time out from presiding over the regress of their respective nations to jet to Rome for the 60th anniversary of the U.N.'s World Food and Agriculture Organization, whence they lambasted the U.S. and Britain and called for more aid and debt relief for the developing world.
To see poor people get rich is a worthy goal, and the likes of Messrs. Chavez and Mugabe aside, there's no doubt that in many cases it is well meant. Poverty is brutal, and in our age of miracle technologies it is needless. But if the real hope is to end poverty, we are going to need a lot less palaver about aid and debt relief, and a lot more focus on how to end the real cause of poverty--which is not scarcity of local resources, or lack of official assistance, or a deficiency of harangues and high-level panels courtesy of assorted dictators and U.N.-o-crats, but simply bad government.
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Wolfcounsel
10-19-2005, 07:57 AM
Poverty is a result of bad government? No way Jose, are Mugabby and Huggy going to go along wit dat hint.
Lazarus
10-19-2005, 08:08 AM
...A lawsuit alleges Oil for Food-like corruption in the Congo Republic....Following last month's United Nations world summit...Why did I just know the UN was involved somehow...
...the poverty professionals are hard at work...with calls for global taxation to fulfill the U.N.'s "millennium development goals...The arroagance of the UN is beyond belief... After the parade of scandals marching from that building in New York, they actually believe they can just ignore their responsibility, continue to play this con game, and act as though they are actually not only relevant but in fact vested with righteous authority over the sovereign nations of this world...
Its time for us to abandon this pit of corruption and give them 30 days to vacate the premises in New York... Any UN "diplomat" still in this country after the deadline should be arrested and charged with espionage against the US, since that has been the primary function of the UN from its inception...
:soap:
Lazarus
10-19-2005, 08:11 AM
Poverty is a result of bad government? No way Jose, are Mugabby and Huggy going to go along wit dat hint.Poverty AND bad government are the results of bad human decisions...
Beowulf
10-19-2005, 08:45 AM
Let's see, some of the causes of global poverty, especially in many African nations...
-Any one remember Iddi Amin?(sp) The former Ugandan dictator? How many thousands did he slaughter and oppress? He was given asylum in Libya before his death.
-How about the genocide in Rwanda? Nothing was done to stop it and Kofi Annan watched it happen. Now he wants to tax us all to fix it.
-The land re-distribution in Zimbabwe. Take from white farmers to give blacks land. Crime has gone up.
-Kenya's AIDS epidemic. Over half the population has the disease, many of which are born with it. What they really need is to practice absinence. It would be a great start.
-The genocide in Sudan. The UN swore after Rwanda it would never happen again. Well, it happened again.
And around the world:
-N. Korea. Kim Jong Il holds his people in poverty for a powerful military.
-Cuba. Need I say anything about Castro?
-Venezuela. Hugo Chavez wants to use the same land distribution plan Zimbabwe uses. How well that works!
Hey Kofi, have those fix these problem who keep creating them. Keep your damn hands out of my wallet ya puke!!
dPrasse
10-19-2005, 11:43 AM
Let's see, some of the causes of global poverty, especially in many African nations...
-Any one remember Iddi Amin?(sp) The former Ugandan dictator? How many thousands did he slaughter and oppress?
Aren't you paying attention , son ? Weren't we lectured here just not too long ago that "slaughter" is for human consumption ? Oh , sorry , my bad ... Amin was a cannibal .... not ALL of those thousands went to waste ;)
-How about the genocide in Rwanda? Nothing was done to stop it and Kofi Annan watched it happen.
They needed killin' ???
-The land re-distribution in Zimbabwe. Take from white farmers to give blacks land. Crime has gone up.
not to mention that crop production fell and the farmers are starving ...
-Kenya's AIDS epidemic. Over half the population has the disease, many of which are born with it. What they really need is to practice absinence. It would be a great start.
maybe the UN should fly in some GOOD condoms , that the cheap ass ones that are experiencing a very high failure rate ...
-The genocide in Sudan. The UN swore after Rwanda it would never happen again. Well, it happened again.
nobody gave kofi any money ....
And around the world:
-N. Korea. Kim Jong Il holds his people in poverty for a powerful military.
-Cuba. Need I say anything about Castro?
-Venezuela. Hugo Chavez wants to use the same land distribution plan Zimbabwe uses. How well that works!
maybe they can eat their guns ??
Hey Kofi, have those fix these problem who keep creating them. Keep your damn hands out of my wallet ya puke!!
:claps:
Wolfcounsel
10-19-2005, 12:04 PM
I wonder how many clowns, er, uh, public servants in Washington are at this point seriously considering raising our taxes to the UN so that those benevolent people can hasten to make the world all no mo' boo-boo.
Dont forget that benevolent peaceful dicta- er President Mugabe used food to get votes in his recent elections (since his people are starving its easier to stay in power now isnt it?
cerberus
10-21-2005, 04:59 AM
Beo, generally I agree with the spirit of your post, but the specific facts are quite wrong.
Let's see, some of the causes of global poverty, especially in many African nations...
-Any one remember Iddi Amin?(sp) The former Ugandan dictator? How many thousands did he slaughter and oppress? He was given asylum in Libya before his death. He was given asylum in Saudi Arabia. You know, our good friends?
-How about the genocide in Rwanda? Nothing was done to stop it and Kofi Annan watched it happen. Now he wants to tax us all to fix it. Annan wasn't Secretary General at the time. And we let it happen too. In fact we blocked Security Council efforts to do something and refused to call it "genocide" as it would have obligated the US to DO something.
-The land re-distribution in Zimbabwe. Take from white farmers to give blacks land. Crime has gone up. Yes land re-distribution has been a fiasco, but you imply it directly leads to more crime...howso. A better point would be that after "re-distribution' (actually just ZANU giving land to its top cronies) food production plummeted.
-Kenya's AIDS epidemic. Over half the population has the disease, many of which are born with it. What they really need is to practice absinence. It would be a great start. Where the hell did you get this? Botswana has the highest AIDS rate of any nation at it tops out at 40% infection rate. You are just wrong on this one.
-The genocide in Sudan. The UN swore after Rwanda it would never happen again. Well, it happened again.I don't see any US troops doing it. Yeah credit to the Admin for calling it genocide, but then what did we do? Nothing. How about another round of strikes in Khartoum?
Beowulf
10-21-2005, 03:07 PM
He was given asylum in Saudi Arabia. You know, our good friends?
I stand corrected.
Annan wasn't Secretary General at the time. And we let it happen too. In fact we blocked Security Council efforts to do something and refused to call it "genocide" as it would have obligated the US to DO something.
I was watching the History Channel on the Rwandan genocide and his name was mentioned in it in some capacity. True, not as Sec. General. The French also were involved and did little to stop it as they were looking to profit from it. I can't remember the details.
Yes land re-distribution has been a fiasco, but you imply it directly leads to more crime...howso. A better point would be that after "re-distribution' (actually just ZANU giving land to its top cronies) food production plummeted.
It would lead to more crime in HOW the land is taken. I'll bet that many farmers didn't just hand over the land. If food production has dropped, I'm also betting stealing and armed robbery are more frequent. Gotta feed the family somehow you know.
Where the hell did you get this? Botswana has the highest AIDS rate of any nation at it tops out at 40% infection rate. You are just wrong on this one.
Again, the History Channel and National Geographic have run many stories on it which is where I base what I know. I've personally heard little of Bostwana so that may be why I have little knowledge of the country. I will research it more, thanks to your info.
I don't see any US troops doing it. Yeah credit to the Admin for calling it genocide, but then what did we do? Nothing. How about another round of strikes in Khartoum?
Why should we? Everytime we do something in the world the anti-US peeps start sounding off again. And in the past, when we've dropped food, medicine and the like, it's not always those who need it that get it.
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