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Rhino
02-12-2003, 11:21 PM
Probably not the correct forum for this, but I'll let those of you who can spend more time here decide where it should be moved to.

THE VALENTINE'S GIFT

Let's face it. Men aren't exactly world renowned for their abilities in selecting and giving gifts to their wives. Maybe it's that 'Mars' personality thing, but most men don't tie in their emotions with gift giving. The value or special quality of a gift is not an indicator of how much love they feel for a woman, nor whether or not they feel love at all. To men in general, gift giving is just another task that needs to be completed for an upcoming holiday or special date of significance on the calendar. However, with the exception of an anniversary, there is one date when a man may sometimes attach emotional meaning to the gift they give. That is Valentine's Day.

The main problem men have with Valentine's gifts though, is how to attach the proper emotional meaning to a particular gift. They want the gift to signify how much they love their wife, but it's no secret that men and women often view gifts differently. This stems from an age old problem. Men just don't understand women at all, and probably never will. This situation can create a gift buying scenario that is not unlike playing Russian Roulette. They know the gifts are there. They can even see several possibilities. But men can never REALLY be sure which ones are likely to blow up in their face when they give them to their wife. They may still never really know for sure until the special day arrives and they see the look on her face.

This scenario creates another problem even if the man already knows of several gifts that she will like. That problem is in deciding which ones represent their love the best. Besides, unless the guy is Bill Gates, the gift he would LIKE to give her is most often priced out of his reach. Even the best of men can also sometimes have difficult periods in their life where they might not be able to afford even a modest gift. This presents a uniquely stressful state in the male mind. How do you give a her an inexpensive gift that is not going to be viewed as "cheap"? I'm willing to bet that a medical study could lock this stress down as a major contributing factor in many of the male deaths that occur during holiday seasons.

But suppose you already know a good gift or two, and you actually can afford them. How can a gift express how MUCH love you have for a woman? Assuming you go along with the spirit of Valentine's Day and would like her to know how MUCH you love her, is any gift really going to be able to do that? How can a gift express the true feelings you have for her? I mean, let's face it, most of us have trouble expressing that even WITHOUT gifts! So, even in the best of scenarios, this last problem can drive any man crazy. For instance, how can a gift tell her:

"You are my oxygen. Without you I could not survive, and everything else would lose all significance"

"You are my inspiration and my motivation. Everything that I have achieved, I could not have done without you. Every difficulty I have weathered, I could not have survived without you. Every dream I have dreamed would have meant nothing without you. I cannot imagine ever achieving, persevering or dreaming again if you were not there, nor do I want to imagine it"

"You make me whole. For in addition to my heart, you also fill my soul. I would be an empty shell without you. I would be incomplete"

"You are my light. When the difficulties of life darken my path, you are there to light it again. Just knowing you are there prevents complete darkness when things get bleak. I could survive anything as long as I have you"

And there are others of course.

Can a gift really say these things? No, it can't. But then again, yes it can.

It's not the gift itself that indicates the love. It is the spirit in which you give it. No woman needs a gift to show that you love her, when she already knows you do. Your Valentine's gift is actually in telling her you love her on the other 364 days a year, and showing it. It's in the goodbye kiss you give when you leave the house. It's in the consideration you give her when things are not going well for her. It's in always seeing her as the most beautiful woman in the world. It's in listening to her without interrupting or being judgmental when she needs to get something off her chest at the end of a hard day. It's in making her feel loved on EVERY day. It's in a hundred other things that show her how much she means to you.

You see, the Valentine's gift does not EXPRESS your love. The Valentine's gift AFFIRMS your love. It is really nothing more than a token. If you truly love her, there really is no material gift that could adequately express that anyway. If she knows you love her, and takes comfort in that, almost ANY gift would be beautiful to her. So, if you want to be certain that your Valentine's gift accurately reflects the love you feel for her, just show her that love the rest of the year. Make sure she not only KNOWS you love her, but is confident in it, relies on it, and sees you as the other half of her universe, just as you see her as the other half of yours.

Have you hugged or kissed her today? Have you spoken with her on a more personal level than the kids schedule tomorrow or the repairs that the car needs? Does she KNOW how special she is to you? Have you expressed your feelings to her like the ones above? I have. My wife knows how much I love her because I express it every day. She knows I could not just go on with life without her, and she knows I never want to try. She knows that if money is tight, then a small bouquet of flowers can express more love than a diamond ring. She is my life, and she knows it.

grimvader
02-13-2003, 12:13 AM
I bought my girl a vacuum cleaner... yea, chicks like vacuum cleaners.


End of Line

Grim

nosferatuscoffin
02-13-2003, 12:22 AM
If women sometimes cannot understand themselves. how do they expect Neanderthals like us to? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

As for a gift, generally jewelry is a never-miss choice. Even a modest $50 pair of diamond, opal etc. earrings can usually give men a reprieve from the Marriage Governor. Unless of course, she already has 50 pairs of them already. Then you are on your own.

Nos

Rhino
02-13-2003, 03:20 AM
Apparently only the guys visit this forum. I didn't even know we had this forum!!!

Suzie
02-18-2003, 02:02 PM
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Can a guy buy the PROPER gift?

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No.

anymore questions? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif

Rhino
02-19-2003, 07:28 PM
Uhh..... Not really, no.

Suzie
02-19-2003, 08:52 PM
You see, we can't answer this appropriatly without being seen as "bitchy" so none of the gals are gonna touch this land mine! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Rhino
02-26-2003, 12:51 AM
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Suzie said:
You see, we can't answer this appropriatly without being seen as "bitchy" so none of the gals are gonna touch this land mine! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

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Please tell me what I missed. I saw nothing even remotely resembling someone calling someone else "bitchy". Was this perhaps sarcastic humor?

Suzie
02-27-2003, 03:59 PM
You didn't, I am just saying we can't complain about a gift without appearing "bitchy" for looking a gift horse in the mouth! I mean when they did remember to buy something, you can't complain. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon130.gif

Rhino
02-27-2003, 08:54 PM
Oh. I don't consider that "bitchy" unless it is accompanied by the appropriate "bitchy" tone. Some people consider all complaints as bitches, when they really aren't. I generally follow the rule that if:

............you're complaining just to voice displeasure, then it's whining (bitching), and if........

............you're complaining because you have a genuine desire to improve something, then that's constructive criticism.

I have bought presents for my wife that she has not appreciated in the way I thought she would, and she made that known. But she didn't do it "bitchy". She simply gave a few guidelines that a) made my shopping easier and b) increased her satisfaction with my selections. It has been many years since I have made such a mistake. It's still hard to make a gift express how much I love her though. That was the main point I was trying to make with the original post.

I suppose some men may call you bitchy if you complain, but I bet a lot of them say that because they're being defensive. That can sometimes stem from the infuriating frustration of never being able to understand women. That works both ways too, as it is no secret that women sometimes can't fathom some things that men do. Mars and Venus. If you recognize it as a fundamental difference bestowed upon us by nature, then you can accept it. If you can't recognize it at all, you can both get "bitchy". In other words, it's okay to be different. In fact, it's "built-in". We're supposed to be that way, and it's not a fault of either party involved. You don't always have to understand it, but it helps a lot when you accept it as the inevitability that it truly is.

Suzie
02-27-2003, 09:07 PM
Well I have a cousin who's new boyfriend had a deer head mounted for her for Christmas. She complained! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Rhino
02-27-2003, 09:20 PM
I would agree with her.