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DeclinetoState
11-18-2005, 10:40 PM
Thu Nov 17,11:20 AM ET
NEW YORK (Reuters) - Halloween is long gone, but New Yorkers will be able from Saturday to pay to view a roomful of human cadavers, fileted limbs and dissected organs as part of a gruesome yet realistic exhibit on the human body.
On November 19, 22 whole bodies and more than 260 organs will go on display in lower Manhattan's South Street Seaport, allowing visitors to see bodies damaged by obesity, black lungs ravaged by cigarette smoke, and close-ups of the central nervous, digestive and circulatory systems.
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The cadavers were poor people and are on loan from the Dalian Medical University in China. http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051117/od_nm/life_bodies_dc;_ylt=ArYRu.AiJocNoGgaU6YqMf8SH9EA;_ ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl
Now think about the thread I posted about the woman who was taken to the mortuary to die because her family couldn't pay her medical bills. :(
Come play pin the liver on the hobo. Popcorn will be served.
Patriot Heart
11-20-2005, 08:08 AM
More on this yuck. http://nydailynews.com/news/v-echo/story/367448p-312771c.html
Now I am a nurse and have seen bodies in all stages. But something seems wrong about "posing" themn and then charging high ticket prices to gawkers.
DeclinetoState
11-20-2005, 06:28 PM
Patriot, you (or your computer) double posted.
Talk about sick and sickening.
How many of these cadavers were like that poor woman left at the mortuary because her family couldn't pay for any more medical treatment?
Tumblehome
11-21-2005, 07:17 AM
If this is BodyWorks2, there is already a thread on it in the Education forum. That one was a few months back and got a "that's cool" from pretty much everybody who participated in it. That was before this link's editorial spinning as it did.
If this is BodyWorks2 (Scanned the article and didn't see if it was or not) the people on display gave written authorization to do this - they wanted to be in the show. It is meant for education and what better model of the human body to learn from than the actual human body?
Teenager
11-21-2005, 07:55 AM
Welcome to Grossology Class 101. On the syllabus you will see that we will include real dead bodies for display.
:flushlib.
Peachdiane
11-21-2005, 07:58 AM
I agree with PH... if the display is purely educational then I have no problem with it. But educational shouldn't have a high ticket price. When I was a kid I looked through mom's nursing books and saw smokers' black lungs as well as the black phlegm that was coughed up. I also saw lungs in various stages of cancer as well as cirrhosis of the liver. It was really fascinating to see what we do to our bodies.
dPrasse
11-21-2005, 08:02 AM
The cadavers were poor people and are on loan from the Dalian Medical University in China.
Should have know it was fom China ... the land of love .... at least they were poo people , that makes it just fine , no ??
University of China would be equivelant to the University of Dachau 1944
Patriot Heart
11-23-2005, 06:35 AM
Update I got in Email
NBC's Displays Human Corpse Next to Katie
and Matt, a Dissident?
Several times over the past few weeks, Katie Couric has used her Today show to push the idea that the United States is now a country that abuses human rights through torture. But Tuesday's Today saw a dead human corpse, stripped of his skin and with his skull removed, located just a few feet from where Katie was sitting next to co-host Matt Lauer on the couch. The corpse was from a traveling exhibit on human bodies, where the preserved remains are dissected to show different aspects of human anatomy. But according to Friday's New York Times, human rights groups are extremely concerned that the bodies on this exhibit -- presumably including the one that showed up on Today's set -- could be dissidents executed by China's communist regime.
[This item, by Rich Noyes, was posted Tuesday afternoon on the MRC's NewsBusters.org blog. To add your views and/or to see a picture of the crystalline cadaver, go to: newsbusters.org (http://newsbusters.org/node/2925) ]
In a November 18 New York Times article titled, "Cadaver Exhibition Raises Questions Beyond Taste," Andrew Jacobs reported:
"Harry Wu, the executive director of the LaoGai Research Foundation, an organization that documents abuses in China's penal system, said officials from Dalian University had been previously implicated in the use of executed prisoners for commercial purposes, having supplied bodies to Gunter von Hagens, the German entrepreneur who started the first traveling show of the dead, 'World of Bodies.' Dr. Sui Hongjin, who was previously Mr. Von Hagen's Chinese partner until a falling out three years ago, is now working with Premier Exhibitions, which has its headquarters in Atlanta.
"'Considering that China executes between 2,000 and 3,000 prisoners a year and their long history of freely using death row prisoners for medical purposes, you have to wonder,' Mr. Wu said, adding that he would pursue legal steps in this country to ensure that the show was not using illegally obtained bodies. 'In China, a piece of paper means nothing.'"
For the article in full: www.nytimes.com (http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/18/nyregion/18bodies.html?incamp=article_popular_4)
dPrasse
11-23-2005, 08:40 AM
Thanks Patriot ... why am I not the least bit surprised ?
DeclinetoState
11-23-2005, 06:17 PM
If this is BodyWorks2, there is already a thread on it in the Education forum. That one was a few months back and got a "that's cool" from pretty much everybody who participated in it. That was before this link's editorial spinning as it did.
If this is BodyWorks2 (Scanned the article and didn't see if it was or not) the people on display gave written authorization to do this - they wanted to be in the show. It is meant for education and what better model of the human body to learn from than the actual human body?
Read the article, TH. They were poor people from China (funny--I thought there couldn't be poverty in a socialist paradise). Some have suggested (not necessarily in the article) that the "poor people" were political prisoners or others who had managed to run afoul of the PRC government.
PrezLeefun
11-23-2005, 07:54 PM
sick and wrong
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