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Maggie_T
12-04-2005, 01:30 PM
Republicanism in decline

By Tony Snow
Dec 3, 2005


WASHINGTON, D.C. -- When Democrats gibber about Republicans' writhing in a culture of corruption, they're on to something -- but not what they think. The Republican Party in Washington is in trouble not because it's overrun by crooks, but because it's packed with cowards -- and has degenerated into a caricature of the party that swept to power 11 years ago promising to take on the federal bureaucracy and liberate the creative genius of American society.

The collapse stems from the simplest and most natural of causes, the survival instinct. Within months of seizing power in 1995, Republicans began backing away from Big Ideas, from tort reform to the necessary overhaul of the Social Security system. They started consulting pollsters to assay "correct" issues and positions. They played it safe -- or so they thought.

Over time, imagination-grabbing ideas melted away. Gone was the Reaganite breadth of vision, and in its place stood the musty idol of Incumbency. Republicans drew the wrong morals from the decline and fall of Newt Gingrich. They thought his boldness got him in trouble, and chose to crib plays from the Bill Clinton playbook -- tacking left, at least oratorically, so as to appease, rather than confront, their critics.

Hence, George W. Bush's "compassionate conservatism" -- a slogan that exceeded skeptics' worst expectations. That phrase, aimed at reassuring suburban white moms and queasy left-wing Republicans, became a white flag on the core issue of government size and might. Bush insiders even began boasting about "big government" conservatism -- oblivious to the fact that big government does not conserve or preserve; it crushes and digests, devouring institutions that challenge its supremacy.

Leaders in the Party of Lincoln stopped talking about people, and started talking about programs and expenditures. They justified head-snapping shifts in policy by claiming the need to take issues "off the table." The multi-trillion dollar Medicare "reform" is a case in point. It was designed less to save a system than to deny Democrats a talking point. Yet, the only things Republicans really took off the table were their moral authority and the loyalty of their partisans.

Full article here (http://www.townhall.com/print/print_story.php?sid=177618&loc=/opinion/columns/tonysnow/2005/12/03/177618.html)


Republicans, ignore this at your own peril.

Eagle1
12-04-2005, 02:05 PM
this is going to bite them and they dont even see it coming. with all the polling that they seem to now pay attention to, you would think they would at least make an attempt to see what the wishes are of the people who voted them into office.while i wouldnt throw away a vote to spite them and have a lib get into an office, when a decent third party candidate has a shot the most conservative will always get my vote.i cant wait to see mccain and the other rinos plummet to political oblivion. the conservative base is waking up, and if the effects arent shown in 06, they will be in 08.which begs the question, will mccain and the others go democrat after they fail as republicans??? Because right now i cant see a difference between them.

Timberwolf
12-04-2005, 11:48 PM
They have forgotten the most important rule of political survival: If you want to remain an incumbent for long, you don't jettison your principles. You act on them.
The Pubbie leadership would do well to heed Mr. Snow's words. They are wise and, as Maggie has already stated, they ignore them at their own peril

maxparrish
12-05-2005, 01:38 AM
Full article here (http://www.townhall.com/print/print_story.php?sid=177618&loc=/opinion/columns/tonysnow/2005/12/03/177618.html)

Republicans, ignore this at your own peril. Alas, I am fairly sure they will ignore this advice, in part because of the current prosperity of the US economy.

To convince people to risk change based on abstractions, they must experience deep pain combined with an obvious failure of the old bromides and moral certitudes - the kind of moral, emotional and economic dislocation caused by Jimmy Carter whose vision for America was "lowered expectations". After a decade of failed liberal social policy people were ready listen.

Unfortunitly, people are never ready to listen when the collective perception is that of sustained growth and there are economic rewards in the short term (to tell the people they could increase their wealth at 7% per year, or retire with 500% richer over a lifetime if it were a free economy means little as long as they are getting their ''amazing' 3.5% GDP growth per year).

Today we are 'fat' and happy. Social Security and medicare disasters are 'way off' (perhaps 15 years), we have gotten used to job quotas, corporate promotions by race/gender, diversity mandates, endless taxation and IRS harrassment, theft of property for local socialist experiments and to benefit the friends of corrupt politicians, abortion on demand, endless illegal immigration, mismanaged government, government goodies to tenured faculty, PBS, grant seeking artists, corpoarte farms, highways to nowhere.

Why rock the boat ? Your getting your piece of the action are you not?

That's the problem.

Republican_Legion
12-05-2005, 01:54 AM
this is going to bite them and they dont even see it coming. with all the polling that they seem to now pay attention to, you would think they would at least make an attempt to see what the wishes are of the people who voted them into office.while i wouldnt throw away a vote to spite them and have a lib get into an office, when a decent third party candidate has a shot the most conservative will always get my vote.i cant wait to see mccain and the other rinos plummet to political oblivion. the conservative base is waking up, and if the effects arent shown in 06, they will be in 08.which begs the question, will mccain and the others go democrat after they fail as republicans??? Because right now i cant see a difference between them.

08 is looking pretty scary for conservativism as far as some of the candiates go .
Some Elitist Democrats have already said they will run 'cough' biden 'cough' .
While the GOP seems to have no one saying they will run .

Pataki is sneaking around the corner by visiting 08 Primary areas . McPaneInTheAzz is taking every media whoring opportunity to be on TV and Guilianni is doing the same thing as McPaneInTheAzz .

Timberwolf
12-05-2005, 10:27 AM
Well now, that's absolutely frightening.

Conservatives WON by BEING conservative!!! How dense does one's skull have to be to NOT understand that one simple premise?? Good grief, Charlie Brown!!

omegatrump
12-06-2005, 10:04 AM
It's all just part of the charade. The Mary Madeline-James Carville show. While we see some intermittent policy change the down hill momentum can only be changed if we take the run away escape ramp.

The band-aid on a sucking chest wound "fix" is not going to get it.

If George W continues to set Hitlery up for a shew in, America is finished.

Beowulf
12-06-2005, 06:26 PM
I can believe this. Republicans, who are supposed to be Conservative, have largely abandoned Conservatism. Think about it.

-Illegal Immigration. Most American's don't want amnesty for illegals yet the president is doing just that in the guise of "guest worker programs" and free benefits to them at our expense.

-Corporate America Tax breaks are great but they aren't being used for what they were intended for, job growth. Want proof? The Airlines, Enron, Tyco and the automakers. Workers take pay and benefit cuts while the executives scoop millions in bonuses. No one will convince me otherwise. I saw it for myself!

-Compromise with Democrats. We have a majority yet they compromise to stop fillibustering.

-War On Terror. We're looking good on the battlefield but we send money and weapons to the Palestinians and leave an open border in which they can freely enter America unchecked.

-Roe vs. Wade. Agains, the GOP is supposed to be pro-life yet so many in the party aren't. (Guliani, Pataki, McPain, Condy)

-Right to Bear Arms. The GOP is supposed to be for the right yet many choose supporting gun control. Check my above list minus Condy)