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Westfield Jimmy
12-08-2005, 12:19 PM
Mr. McCain, ..Rush limbaugh asks a very good question! Since your position is that America is torturing, ..& Conoleeza Rice cannot convince our European allies because of YOU, & your friend John kerry, & the rest of the democrats are saying America is torturing, ..Limbaugh is asking this:

Since those among YOURSELF are making these charges, ..it is up to YOU & THEM to PROVE the charges that are being made!

So...please tell everybody, ..WHERE is America torturing muslim pow's, ..or enemy combatins? Also, ..please define what REAL torture is?

You are sponoring a senate bill calling it the bill on torture, ..yet what is being proposed have NEVER fallen under guidlines defined as torture such as vigorous interrogation, humiliation, embarrassment, & in some cases.. sleep deprivation.

You Mr. McCain are parotting the very same words almost as John Kerry, & the rest of the whacko liberal democrats.

You, who should KNOW better...are arming the islamic terrorists to believe that America is engaging in real torture which of course is horsecrap, ..& in so doing you are helping the terror cause, & in fact America is drawing severe critiscism from past European allies who take the accusations as truth.

So...PLEASE Mr. McCain, TELL US WHERE ALL THIS REAL TORTURE IS OCCURRING where mass brutal beatings, water torture, forced starvation, executions, genital abuse, ..& other forms of genocide, & barbarity are being committed? <<<< Those examples ARE REAL TORTURE, so IF YOU HAVE THE DIRECT EVIDENCE PLEASE SHARE IT, & THEN LETS INDICT THE MILITARY COMMANDERS WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE!!!

IF NOT, ...THEN PLEASE STFU, ..& STOP HELPING THE G-DAMN LIBERAL DEMOCRATS BY ACTING JUST LIKE THEM SOLEY BECAUSE YOU STILL RESENT GEORGE BUSH FOR DEFEATING YOU IN THE PAST PRIMARY; & BECAUSE YOU LOVE THE APPLAUSE OF THE LEFT MORE THAN YOU LOVE THE TRUTH!

Is it because you love the applause from your fellow liberal constituents that sit in the senate? Perhaps you were flattered by John Kerry's thoughts of him considering YOU worthy enough to be his vice presidential running mate in 04'?

Or...could it be that you simply love the reverence, acceptance, & plaudits that the liberal media grant you as "that special republican" who works well with the senate democrats?

You knew John Kerry was so full of shyte when he campaigned on lies about American soldiers being guilty of using torture en masse in Viet-Nam engaging in the cutting off of limbs, other dismembering, & even enjoying shooting at non combatin Vietnamese Citizens, ...yet YOU SAID NOTHING!

Kerry was in Viet-Nam for 3-months, & rarely if EVER left the confines of his SWIFT BOAT to SEE what was happening, ..if he wasn't fighting & firing at a phantom "non-existent" enemy at night that could never quite be verified but somehow recieved purple heart wounds that were noted to be very "SUSPICIOUS" by his own commanding officer, as well as ridiculously "SUPERFICIAL" as noted by the treating medical officer!

You even allowed Kerry to embellish his war record, ..& especially his g-damn lie & fictitious account of being in Cambodia supposidly fighting the Khmour Rouge Army on Christmas eve of 1969 which he claimed, ..which IS a KNOWN lie as Kerry was NEVER in Cambodia, ..& the Khmour Rouge was NEVER in Cambodia until years later, ...YET YOU STILL SAID NOTHING!

You Sir are a sell-out, ..& not even a good alternative to a future democratic presidential candidate these days, because quite frankly...there is LITTLE difference between You & the democratic party leadership anymore!

You may pat yourself on your back as most senate democrats do, or even pat your own as.s because, ..it is evident that you are nothing but a horses as.s, ..& I hope that most republican voters come to see you as you really are If & WHEN you decide to enter the presidential race. :mad:

Lazarus
12-08-2005, 01:13 PM
I often listen to the BBC World Service on satellite radio to keep tabs on the mood of the socialists in Europe, and unlike over here, it is a forgone conclusion that America does indeed torture prisoners - For Europe its only a matter of where we are doing it... There is a frantic witch hunt lookin for our "secret CIA torture bases"...

No evidence of torture has ever been offered... Europe is eager to accept the allegations of torture - Allegations are all they need...

Now, more than ever, America needs to withdraw from the UN, kick them off US soil, and withdraw relations with at least western Europe...

Isnt it a strange twist of events that the former Soviet block countries are our strongest allies in Europe? Instead of them coming to the EU with their hats in their hands, begging permission to join with the cool kids on the block, We should withdraw from NATO and offer to form a new alliance with our REAL allies in Eastern Europe...

Conservative81
12-08-2005, 01:26 PM
I heard this today... Sorry John, but you just lost a voter in the primaries:smash:

DoctorDoom
12-08-2005, 01:34 PM
With leftists and RINOs, only the nature and severity of a charge are important. The truth of the charge is irrelevant. And they get away with it because their media cohorts are every bit as reprehensible and vindictive as they are.

McCain is a wretch. He needs to be expelled from the Senate and tried for giving aid and comfort to America's enemies.

Westfield Jimmy
12-08-2005, 08:36 PM
With leftists and RINOs, only the nature and severity of a charge are important. The truth of the charge is irrelevant. And they get away with it because their media cohorts are every bit as reprehensible and vindictive as they are.

McCain is a wretch. He needs to be expelled from the Senate and tried for giving aid and comfort to America's enemies.





Dear DoctorDoom, ......what makes this even more galling to us republicans is that deep down McCain knows better & continues to "validate" a lie in his so professional sounding senatorial way,.. for the good of the democratic party??

Here we are after almost 40 years of being liberally deepthroated by the liberal media, & congress being controlled by those turds....republicans are actually in charge, ..& that idiot McCain wants to make "them" relevant again through false accusation, inuendo, & even out & out lies that have NOT been proven!

He cannot possibly think this is going to help his own voting block of core republicans!

Etaoin
12-08-2005, 09:46 PM
Mr. McCain, ..Rush limbaugh asks a very good question! Since your position is that America is torturing, ..& Conoleeza Rice cannot convince our European allies because of YOU, & your friend John kerry, & the rest of the democrats are saying America is torturing, ..Limbaugh is asking this:

Since those among YOURSELF are making these charges, ..it is up to YOU & THEM to PROVE the charges that are being made!

you as you really are If & WHEN you decide to enter the presidential race. :mad:

FIRST OFF, I question McCain's alleged torture. It is only recently I have heard of his being subjected to anything like torture. Since I distrust him as much as I distrust Kerry, I'd like to know more about it and have the records opened!!!

McCain is the son of a HIgh Ranking Admiral. On his capture and identification, the Viet Cong offered to repatriate him. I have no knowledge of the terms offered, but I held McCain in high regard as he turned down repatriation out of seniority (length of time in captivity).

I can only assume that his bizarre behavior as a senator suggests that since he didn't want to be repatriated out of sequence (Which is certainly laudable) they devoted the time to brain-washing rather than torture! The McCain/ Feingold bill and his present antics are definitely not compatible with anything beneficial to America and its constitution!

Westfield Jimmy
12-09-2005, 09:27 AM
FIRST OFF, I question McCain's alleged torture. It is only recently I have heard of his being subjected to anything like torture. Since I distrust him as much as I distrust Kerry, I'd like to know more about it and have the records opened!!!

McCain is the son of a HIgh Ranking Admiral. On his capture and identification, the Viet Cong offered to repatriate him. I have no knowledge of the terms offered, but I held McCain in high regard as he turned down repatriation out of seniority (length of time in captivity).

I can only assume that his bizarre behavior as a senator suggests that since he didn't want to be repatriated out of sequence (Which is certainly laudable) they devoted the time to brain-washing rather than torture! The McCain/ Feingold bill and his present antics are definitely not compatible with anything beneficial to America and its constitution!





Perhaps YOU are right. How will we really ever find out IF McCain was REALLY ever tortured by the true definition of the word, "torture"?

Perhaps McCain himself was embellishing himself, & his sufferings in an effort to be counted as "one who understood" all the Viet-Nam sufferings of an American pow in order to help aid in his "electability" for government public service.

I know this, ..his actions are NOT commensurate with the support of his president, ..no matter how he talks the talk when the cameras are rolling on him.

When the senate democrats & media love him, ..that ought to say much right there!

I hope we can get a strong republican candidate who has the ability to take away the nomination away from him, ..as he should NOT be rewarded with the nomination, ..as he is begining to look, & sound more like a democrat everytime he opens his mouth!

He is a SELL OUT, attempting to curry favor from democratic voters as opposed to what is best for the security of America as he seeks the brass ring of the presidency.

It must stick in his craw STILL that he could not take the nomination away from Bush?

I hope that most republican voters see him as he really is, & stop supporting the phoney game that he is playing, ..& its all for himself, & not for the good of the republican party.

Etaoin
12-09-2005, 08:21 PM
Perhaps YOU are right. How will we really ever find out IF McCain was REALLY ever tortured by the true definition of the word, "torture"?

Perhaps McCain himself was embellishing himself, & his sufferings in an effort to be counted as "one who understood" all the Viet-Nam sufferings of an American pow in order to help aid in his "electability" for government public service.

I know this, ..his actions are NOT commensurate with the support of his president, ..no matter how he talks the talk when the cameras are rolling on him.

When the senate democrats & media love him, ..that ought to say much right there!

I hope we can get a strong republican candidate who has the ability to take away the nomination away from him, ..as he should NOT be rewarded with the nomination, ..as he is begining to look, & sound more like a democrat everytime he opens his mouth!

He is a SELL OUT, attempting to curry favor from democratic voters as opposed to what is best for the security of America as he seeks the brass ring of the presidency.

It must stick in his craw STILL that he could not take the nomination away from Bush?

I hope that most republican voters see him as he really is, & stop supporting the phoney game that he is playing, ..& its all for himself, & not for the good of the republican party.

IMHO, YOU GOT IT! McCAIN WAS EITHER A LIAR OR A PHONY! IMHO, he was (is) a liar and a phony. The real question is: How much of his behavior is a result of brainwashing? Of Course, that assumes that he had a functioning brain to be "washed"!

BarkleUSA
12-10-2005, 04:41 PM
…my guess (and it’s only that) is that McCain is primarily motivated by revenge for loosing the 2000 nomination, especially the South Carolina episode.

He is able to inflict more damage to Bush undermining him from within the party then he could possibly do across the isle.

McCain’s Campaign Finance “reform” was responsible for creating Move ON and a thousand other leftist Bush Bashing organizations awash in millions in stealth donations.

Fortunately, Rush and others have been shining a bright spotlight on McCain’s activities.