John Lennon: Social Degenerate

[Trance]

Yesterday marked the death of Beatles' frontman John Lennon and thousands upon thousands flocked to Strawberry Fields to pay homage to a man I would not even allow to touch my garbage.

John Lennon was one of the plauges of society that people could not worship enough. He was a stout supporter of Marxism Communism (if you don't believe that, read the lyrics to "imagine")

While preaching "no posessions" he was living the good life, in one of New York City's most exclusive neighborhood

While he was preaching peace, he was funding money to the IRA

While preaching love, he was beating up Cynthia and treating his own flesh-and-blood Julian as a second-rate step child

And for the life of me, cannot figure out why people still worship him as if he was some kind of god... which he also said he was more famous than, by the way

[Bob_Arctor]

I think the vast majority of people liked him because of his music, not his political beliefs.

[FatherTime]

If a liberal is shot dead in NY, does anyone really care?

If a tree falls in the woods, does the bear give a shit?

**** JL. Mark David Chapman knew what he was doing.

[Bob_Arctor]

If a liberal is shot dead in NY, does anyone really care?
If a tree falls in the woods, does the bear give a shit?
**** JL. Mark David Chapman knew what he was doing.
You're a class act, doing as Jesus would have done, no doubt. Love, and turn the other cheek, no?

[PatrioticAmerican]

I took a look at the lyrics to "Imagine," and it seems like Lennon was actually questioning the Loony Leftists. Though there is reportedly a discrepacy with one set of lyrics that he altered because he seemed undecided about what he really believed.

[DoctorDoom]

Lennon was a waste of protoplasm. No loss.

You're a class act, doing as Jesus would have done ...Why is it that heathens think that they're oh so clever when they mention Jesus? They have the remarkable ability to turn His name into an obscenity when they use it.

But, payback is coming.

[Republican_Legion]

If a liberal is shot dead in NY, does anyone really care?

If a tree falls in the woods, does the bear give a shit?

**** JL. Mark David Chapman knew what he was doing.

I Agree 200% . If john Lenin were alive today his Anti-war rhetoric and Hippyness would be a big threat to the national security of this nation . Guys like Lenin can basicly start riots with the snap of their fingers . Its a real shame though that John Lenin didnt get 'shot' during the vietnam war era.

[UnkHiram]

I find that "Politically" I agreed with almost nothing John Lennon had to say. However, his death diminished our culture because he was a poet extraordinary. His Poems were put to music and entertained and enthralled millions. Whether you agree or disagree with his political statements to suggest that Mark David Chapman was correct in murdering John goes beyond rational disagreement.

[Republican_Legion]

I find that "Politically" I agreed with almost nothing John Lennon had to say. However, his death diminished our culture because he was a poet extraordinary. His Poems were put to music and entertained and enthralled millions. Whether you agree or disagree with his political statements to suggest that Mark David Chapman was correct in murdering John goes beyond rational disagreement.

I dont miss John Lenin dieing and you dont miss the austrailian druglord dieing :grin: .

so we both have at times said it was good a scumbag got shot .

The DrugLord contributes to Crime and Murder. John Lenin contributed to Communism and Attacked the Morale of Our troops which caused deaths .

[Peachdiane]

I know I'm "far out" but he was an anti-American commie. Lennon needed killin'. He was single-handedly hurting America's effort in Vietnam and the world is better off without his politics.

[ldb83]

I'm not sure anything hurts the nation more than cheering crime and murder. If everybody thought like that, the country would be in chaos and civil war. There are a lot of people with whom I disagree, but I would never applaud murdering them because I disagree.

Some of you extremists are so misguided it's nauseating.

[DeclinetoState]

I'm not happy that Lennon was murdered, but I don't lay awake at night crying about it, either. The guy who killed him was a jerk, and should remain in prison the rest of his life, IMHO. However, if Lennon had lived (and not died prematurely from a drug overdose or some other cause), he'd be another washed-up celeb bellyaching about the war on terror or something now.

Lennon wrote or co-wrote a couple of good songs, a lot of mediocre and forgettable ones--just like many other singer-songwriters. I'm sorry his son had to grow up without a father, but I guess he wasn't much of a dad while he was alive, so there.

[Longhorn_Platinum]

:moo: RepublicanLegion, I know you're not a good speller, but are you calling him "Lenin" for the irony of it?

:unsmile: As for his death, I don't celebrate that, because that's a mean thing to do. But, neither do I mourn it. He was a leftist, & his so-called "music" was devoid of any talent. He was to music, what Garry Trudeau & Berke Breathed are to comic strips.

[BarkleUSA]

I suppose when Lenin imagines a world void of religion, countries, possessions, hunger, heaven and hell – what he really means is a world with no morality, one world government, everything owned by the state, to each according to his need and a Godless society.

He was a genius in the same way Stalin was a genius – which is to say he sold the populist egalitarian class-warfare “opiate of the masses” to all capable of listening and hating – but sadly incapable of understanding.

There are 20 million buried in mass graves throughout the former Soviet Union bearing silent testament to the kind of world that John Lenin sang about.

He was just a poet in the same way that the tsunami was just a wave.

That said, I am not one to cheer his death because he was misguided and clueless about the consequences of the world he “Imagined”. He was more a “useful idiot” of the communist then a full fledged party member.

[ldb83]

Hmm. Sounds kind of like a conspiracy theory.

Oh well, I suppose I have my suspicions too.

[Republican_Legion]

:moo: RepublicanLegion, I know you're not a good speller, but are you calling him "Lenin" for the irony of it?

:unsmile: As for his death, I don't celebrate that, because that's a mean thing to do. But, neither do I mourn it. He was a leftist, & his so-called "music" was devoid of any talent. He was to music, what Garry Trudeau & Berke Breathed are to comic strips.

Yes for the Irony of it .

[Rink]

I dont 'read' into the music I just enjoyed it, Lenon had his niche in music just as McCartney has his own niche as well.

Problem was Lenon I think fried his brain on too much recreational drugs and let too many self-serving opportunistic leftists use him as a means to an end.

Himself I dont think he was a threat to anyone, but John Lenon lent himself to the anti-war movement and was bamboozled by the leftists, I dont think he was smart enough to have understood what he was truly doing, all he was interested in was his hippy drugged-up hedonistic lifestyle and his music.

His woman doesnt seem to know how to get past his passing, she still takes pot shots at McCartney like ther's still some sort of rivalry.

Someone needs to tell the old biddy her hubby's dead, get over it.

She's I think the hard-line leftist lunatic that led John down the path of the anti-war movement if not crazy artistic crap.

Anyone see what Yoko Ono likes in whats loosely called (are)?

Two birds of a feather flock together if ya ask me, and both it seems are quite brain-fried from too much toking, acid and possibly more.

Lenon was O.K. but thats bout it, I have his albums and I liked his song 'Imagine' as anyone who would wish for a better world would 'imagine' life without sadness, war, pain suffering etc, thats all I got from that song, nothing more.

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

Well mercifully, I missed the era -- I have never cared for the Beatles collectively or individually, not any of them. I was affected neither one way or the other regarding Lennon's death, other than to mourn a soul lost from Christ's Kindgom. Some Beatle ditties were good -- I guess I am one of the rare few who liked all the stuff from Sgt.Pepper's Lonely Heart's Club Band, but to be honest, I liked the BeeGee's and Frampton versions rather than that of the Beatles (and yes, I LIKED the movie!!!).

Yoko Ono, now SHE'S another story -- a scary, frightening nightmare of a story. If I never hear the woman's name again it will STILL be too soon, :smirky: .

[Peachdiane]

I don't celebrate Lennon's murder either but I have no sympathy for socialists. Especially ones who lecture the rest of us while living off a 9 figure salary.

[Riverboat]

I'm not happy that Lennon was murdered, but I don't lay awake at night crying about it, either. The guy who killed him was a jerk, and should remain in prison the rest of his life, IMHO. However, if Lennon had lived (and not died prematurely from a drug overdose or some other cause), he'd be another washed-up celeb bellyaching about the war on terror or something now.

Lennon wrote or co-wrote a couple of good songs, a lot of mediocre and forgettable ones--just like many other singer-songwriters. I'm sorry his son had to grow up without a father, but I guess he wasn't much of a dad while he was alive, so there.A couple of good songs? I should be so lucky. He wrote a whole textbook full of memorable songs, including Can't Buy Me Love, Do You Want to Know a Secret?, Hard Day's Night, If I Fell, You've Got to Hide Your Love Away, In My Life, Nowhere Man, Lucy In the Sky With Diamonds, Being For the Benefit of Mr. Kite, to name a few. I didn't include the ones that were collaborations with McCartney.

I'm not going to pretend Lennon wasn't a prickly fellow. In fact, he was a genuine prick. He cheated on his wife, he was an insufferable ass when it came to politics in public (bed-in for peace?), and he used a lot of drugs.

But, most unforgivable of all, he foisted that tin-eared no-talent harpy on the world. Had it not been for the fact she hooked up with one of the Beatles, Yoko Ono would have stayed mired in the obscurity she so richly deserved.

After the Beatles, a lot of his music was not up to listenability standards (i.e. it was shitty, or preachy, or both) because he didn't have the counterweight of Paul McCartney any more. Worse, he had to look at Yoko every day and listen to her opinions on his music. That'd be like putting Tokyo Rose with Rogers instead of Hammerstein.

At the time of his murder, Lennon had just released Double Fantasy which actually had nice songs on it. Maybe he was on the mend, musically. There's no telling what his opinions on anything might be today. Some celebrities grow, some remain mired in the 60s. Paul McCartney is far more personable, but he's not on my Christmas card list either, not while he's supporting PeTA.

So why am I writing this? I wanted to respond specifically to two comments:

Trance: He was a stout supporter of Marxism Communism (if you don't believe that, read the lyrics to "imagine"). I don't believe that. Read the words to Revolution.

Father Time:Mark David Chapman knew what he was doing. What the hell is this supposed to mean? That Chapman was out to defend the American way of life? He was a deranged loser with a gun and a voice in his head telling him to kill John Lennon.

[Patriot Heart]

Loved your post Boat, Bravo!

[Elgalad]

:yeahthat:


Nicely stated, Riverboat! :claps:


It's too easy sometimes to dismiss people simply because we don't like some aspects of their life, or their beliefs. I'm of the mind that there is value in everyone, even those who seem beyond hope. This is not the same thing as blind hero worship, and it certainly doesn't mean choosing to ignore those bad aspects we can't stand. But it Is looking for and finding the humanity in others.

When we take that away, when we turn our fellow men and women into something less than human or demonize them, we do them a great disservice. But we do ourselves an even greater one. Hate is an insidious cancer that serves no good purpose and in time destroys its host.


-Elgalad

[Republican_Legion]

How funny , when an FC Elite says that a big group of people need to be exterminated u never complain .

Heres a Quote of an FC Elite regarding Illegal Immigrants :
"It's long past time to give the Border Patrol shoot-to-kill orders, and then do a mass roundup and termination of the parasites that are here already."
http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/showthread.php?t=30187


<!-- / message -->Double Standard .

[Riverboat]

Heres a Quote of doom regarding Illegal Immigrants Did you hit the wrong button or what? This has NOTHING to do with John Lennon and his widely-reported shortcomings as a father/husband/human.

[USPatriot8320]

The irony involved but celebrating someones murder is plain wrong. No matter their politics, their music, gender, religion or sexual preference. Murder in any fashion should not be celebrated. It shouldn't even be based on religious merit, we are a civilized society, murder is simply wrong.

[Republican_Legion]

Did you hit the wrong button or what?

You dodge the double standard point I Presented as it relates to this topic by relating to the Critism of saying 'its good John Lennon was killed' and my reason was that some people here advocate Killings of a Number of People in this country yet the critics only attack this view when it is not Said by a FC Elite . This is the reason why I stated 'it was good that lennon was murdered' was to get the Reaction of Spinless Hypocrates .

I do NOT believe it was right that Lennon was killed but I wanted to see the reaction I would get for agreeing with someone who thought that way and would be interesting to see if there really is a Bias here . I really dont care anymore if someone says "kill all them mexicans" or "Looters need shooting" because it will most likely be coming from someone who is an FC Elite . Instead I now will just Agree with someone when they say 'Pro-Killing' things or I'll just keep my mouth shut . I'll for sure remember next time to Agree with what ever the Elites say .

1 more thing , i still like john lennons music and always will . A persons artwork can be respected while the character of the artist can be disliked .

[Incident_command]

Whats ugly, yellow, and sleeps alone?




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Yoko Ono

[DoctorDoom]

My total input to this thread re Lennon is as follows: "Lennon was a waste of protoplasm. No loss." OTOH, a certain child stated this in post #7:

Originally Posted by FatherTime
If a liberal is shot dead in NY, does anyone really care?

If a tree falls in the woods, does the bear give a shit?

**** JL. Mark David Chapman knew what he was doing.I Agree 200% . If john Lenin were alive today his Anti-war rhetoric and Hippyness would be a big threat to the national security of this nation . Guys like Lenin can basicly start riots with the snap of their fingers . Its a real shame though that John Lenin didnt get 'shot' during the vietnam war era.In post #9, he/she opined:

I dont miss John Lenin dieing and you dont miss the austrailian druglord dieing .

so we both have at times said it was good a scumbag got shot .

The DrugLord contributes to Crime and Murder. John Lenin contributed to Communism and Attacked the Morale of Our troops which caused deaths .

The child then spewed this in post #23:

How funny , when an FC Elite says that a big group of people need to be exterminated u never complain .

Heres a Quote of an FC Elite regarding Illegal Immigrants :
"It's long past time to give the Border Patrol shoot-to-kill orders, and then do a mass roundup and termination of the parasites that are here already." (Link omitted.)

Double standard.Child, when you celebrate the actual murder of a person, do NOT dare to upbraid me for a bit of BB hyperbole that does not describe anything that will, or that can, happen.

And while you're at it:

1. Kindly dispense with that annoying habit of spacing periods and commas from the words that they follow.

2. Learn to spell.

[Republican_Legion]

1. Kindly dispense with that annoying habit of spacing periods and commas from the words that they follow.

2. Learn to spell.

NO .
I do know how to spell and its that i choose not to as its quicker this way . If your annoyed too bad .

[Tumblehome]

god... which he also said he was more famous than, by the way

He was. So was Hitler.

[Bob_Arctor]

Lennon was a waste of protoplasm. No loss.
Why is it that heathens think that they're oh so clever when they mention Jesus? They have the remarkable ability to turn His name into an obscenity when they use it. But, payback is coming.
I'm not the one professing the love of Jesus and at the same time celebrating the murder of an innocent man.

At any rate, I'm personally not a fan of the Beatles. Some of Lennon's views were crazy, and he had many character faults. Despite this, he certainly had the right to live his life, and to see so many here who profess hatred for our "culture of death" cheering his murder is bizarre.

[Beowulf]

My feelings on Lennon are the same as I feel about other entertainers. I like them for their music but NOT for their views. Many fall into this category:

Lennon, John Cougar Mellancamp, Don Henley (and I worship the Eagles), Bruce Springsteen, Jon Bon Jovi are but a few.

[DesertFox]

Lennon was an asshole, but the man had awesome talent. His last hit, Woman, was about as good as it gets.

It's juvenile to approve of his murder.

[Longhorn_Platinum]

Republican_Legion:
I do know how to spell and its that i choose not to as its quicker this way . If your annoyed too bad .

:unsmile: You'd come across as more intelligent & credible, if you'd place a priority on accuracy, rather than speed.

[DoctorDoom]

NO .
I do know how to spell and its that i choose not to as its quicker this way . If your annoyed too bad .What's your hurry, child? This isn't a Yahoo chatroom where speed is of the essence. It's a BB where posts remain indefinitely, and one has the freedom to take a few moments to refine a post, proofread it, and THEN submit it.

Do you know what you're telling us, kid? "I don't give a shit about you assholes. You're not worth my taking a few minutes to craft an intelligent post." And what do you think our response to your arrogance and your semi-literate posts should be, kid?

[DoctorDoom]

I'm not the one professing the love of Jesus and at the same time celebrating the murder of an innocent man.And perhaps you'll be so kind as to point out where I did that, atheist.

[Riverboat]

Back to the Communist leanings of Lennon.

As fate would have it, I just happened to check out a book from the local library called A Hard Day's Write (get it?) which gives the background story on all the songs written by the Beatles. Concerning the song Revolution, there was this response of Lennon to a Marxist-leaning college student:

I don’t remember saying that "Revolution" was revolutionary. . . You say ‘in order to change the world, we’ve got to understnd what’s wrong with the world and then destroy it. Ruthlessly.” You’re obviously on a destruction kick. I’ll tell you what’s wrong with it – people. So, do you want to destroy them? Ruthlessly? Until you/we change your/our heads – there’s no chance. Tell me one successful revolution. …Do you think all the enemy wear capitalist badges so that you can shoot them? It’s a bit naïve, John. You seem to think it’s just a class war.

There's more in a follow-up interview in the magazine which published Lennon's earlier comments:

All I’m saying is I think you should do it by changing people’s heads, and they’re saying we should smash the system. Now the system smashing scene has been going on forever. What’s it done’? The Irish did it, the Russians did it, and the French did it and where has it got them? It got them nowhere. It’s the same old game. Who’s going to run this smashing up? Who’s going to take over? It’ll be the biggest smashers. They’ll be the ones to get in first and, like in Russia, they’ll be the ones to take over. I don’t know what the answer is but I think it’s down to people.

If you ask me, John Lennon sounds as conservative as the bulk of posters in this forum, at least in this regard.

[Republican_Legion]

:unsmile: You'd come across as more intelligent & credible, if you'd place a priority on accuracy, rather than speed.

And you come across as a perfectionist Jerkoff .
Well if you were smart you would have figured out i was calling john lennon 'john lenin' as a joke but you assumed with your perfectionist 6 sense that it was a not a joke and you jumped to ask me if i am joking which was a very rude way of pointing out someones lack og grammar . I beat the crap out of stuck up pencil neck jerks like you in highschool for fun and I will never forget the crying episodes some of them had when everyone was laughing at them .

So you offended me and I have offended you back .

[Republican_Legion]

What's your hurry, child? This isn't a Yahoo chatroom where speed is of the essence. It's a BB where posts remain indefinitely, and one has the freedom to take a few moments to refine a post, proofread it, and THEN submit it.

Do you know what you're telling us, kid? "I don't give a shit about you assholes. You're not worth my taking a few minutes to craft an intelligent post." And what do you think our response to your arrogance and your semi-literate posts should be, kid?

why do dont you tell this to someone who cares to listen to your Grade F advice . http://www.ebaumsworld.com/forumfun/whocares5.jpg

[Republican_Legion]

Back to the Communist leanings of Lennon.

As fate would have it, I just happened to check out a book from the local library called A Hard Day's Write (get it?) which gives the background story on all the songs written by the Beatles. Concerning the song Revolution, there was this response of Lennon to a Marxist-leaning college student:

I don’t remember saying that "Revolution" was revolutionary. . . You say ‘in order to change the world, we’ve got to understnd what’s wrong with the world and then destroy it. Ruthlessly.” You’re obviously on a destruction kick. I’ll tell you what’s wrong with it – people. So, do you want to destroy them? Ruthlessly? Until you/we change your/our heads – there’s no chance. Tell me one successful revolution. …Do you think all the enemy wear capitalist badges so that you can shoot them? It’s a bit naïve, John. You seem to think it’s just a class war.

There's more in a follow-up interview in the magazine which published Lennon's earlier comments:

All I’m saying is I think you should do it by changing people’s heads, and they’re saying we should smash the system. Now the system smashing scene has been going on forever. What’s it done’? The Irish did it, the Russians did it, and the French did it and where has it got them? It got them nowhere. It’s the same old game. Who’s going to run this smashing up? Who’s going to take over? It’ll be the biggest smashers. They’ll be the ones to get in first and, like in Russia, they’ll be the ones to take over. I don’t know what the answer is but I think it’s down to people.

If you ask me, John Lennon sounds as conservative as the bulk of posters in this forum, at least in this regard.

Link to source ?

[DoctorDoom]

why do dont you tell this to someone who cares to listen to your Grade F advice .Why don't you entertain the notion that you're amongst intelligent adults? If you want adults to take your opinions seriously, child, then you'd damned well better start thinking about communicating in an adult manner.

[DoctorDoom]

BTW:

"why do dont you tell this to someone who cares to listen to your Grade F advice ."

"why" - should be capitalized.
"do dont" - meaningless, and IAC, "don't" has an apostrophe signifying a contraction.
"advice ." - no space before period, and it should be a question mark.

Basic English 101 is dismissed.

[Riverboat]

Link to source ?Sigh!

"As fate would have it, I just happened to check out a book from the local library called A Hard Day's Write [emph. mine] which gives the background story on all the songs written by the Beatles."

Want the author's name? Steve Turner.

[Longhorn_Platinum]

Republican_Legion:
Well if you were smart you would have figured out i was calling john lennon 'john lenin' as a joke but you assumed with your perfectionist 6 sense that it was a not a joke and you jumped to ask me if i am joking which was a very rude way of pointing out someones lack og grammar .

:unsmile: Well, I thought you were being ironic, but since you're so careless with your spelling, I wasn't sure, that's why I had to ask. If I wanted to point out your bad grammar, I would have done so months ago. And I doubt that you could fight your way out of a wet Kleenex®, but on the internet, I guess you can be whoëver you want.

[Bob_Arctor]

And perhaps you'll be so kind as to point out where I did that, atheist.
You first post in this thread was pretty cheerful considering the topic, theist. And I've certainly seen you gloat over death before.

[Beowulf]

BTW:

"why do dont you tell this to someone who cares to listen to your Grade F advice ."

"why" - should be capitalized.
"do dont" - meaningless, and IAC, "don't" has an apostrophe signifying a contraction.
"advice ." - no space before period, and it should be a question mark.

Basic English 101 is dismissed.

OUCH!! That'll leave a mark!

[DoctorDoom]

You first post in this thread was pretty cheerful considering the topic, theist. And I've certainly seen you gloat over death before.
Lennon was a waste of protoplasm. No loss.Only a liberal assmite can equate that with celebrating his murder. BTW, YOU are a waste of protoplasm, and if YOU were gone, it would be no loss. However, that doesn't mean I'd rejoice if someone blew away your heathen arse.

[Bob_Arctor]

Only a liberal assmite can equate that with celebrating his murder. BTW, YOU are a waste of protoplasm, and if YOU were gone, it would be no loss. However, that doesn't mean I'd rejoice if someone blew away your heathen arse.
Sounds like you're rejoicing already, double d. :grin:

And I've seen other statements you've made where you've celebrated the deaths of various people. What I don't understand is why, if you feel that way, you try and deny it when it's pointed out.

[terri]

I really like the early Beatles - their music. My mother likes to remind me of my screams when Ed Sullivan introduced them on this show. Oh and I do remember A Hard Days Night... both the song and the movie.

As for Lennon, I've always considered him the real talent behind the scenes. Sir Paul had the looks, and yes he could write some, but Lennon had the talent. However, my favorite was and remains, George...... yummy.....

I don't care what John's political beliefs were. The man is dead. Now Jane Fonda, she's still living and she's just coming off a fresh spew. Her newest tirade is that, get ready to gasp, THAT OUR MILITARY IS BEING TRAINED TO BE KILLING MACHINES!!!! (Discovered this precious little tidbit over at RightNation).

[DoctorDoom]

And I've seen other statements you've made where you've celebrated the deaths of various people. What I don't understand is why, if you feel that way, you try and deny it when it's pointed out.I am satisfied with the passing of assholes like Tookie, whose death was justified by his crimes. Ditto any other scumbag who forfeits his/her life when s/he takes the lives of innocent people.

If you decide to go into the murder business, then rest assured that when your butt is fried as the fitting recompense, I'll toast to it.

Lennon's death was not the world-class tragedy that his disciples have made it. And given his looney leftist PoV, only those fawning idiots really miss him. I consider his passing no loss, without celebrating its means.

So, Bachelor Bobby, were you at the vigil for Tookie (http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/showthread.php?t=30321)?

[DoctorDoom]

... OUR MILITARY IS BEING TRAINED TO BE KILLING MACHINES!!!!NO!!! THAT CAN"T BE RIGHT!!! SAY IT AIN'T SO!!!

With apologies to Dan Aykroyd, "Jane, you ignorant slut!" What the hell do you think is the raison d'être of the military? In the words of one of America's real icons, "The purpose of armies is to kill people and break things." And did you have that same apprehension when you were sucking up to the NV army by doing photo-ops at an anti-aircraft gun?

Jane, ever since Barbarella, it's been downhill. Quit while you're merely behind.

[Taylor]

I only like John Lennon for his music, not his politics. I strongly disagree with his politics and his pacifism. I've been on some John Lennon mailing lists and I can't say much for his fans. I don't know why but I think Lennon attracts the most cruelest fans based on my experiences. He was a communist sympathizer and a horrible father who abandoned his first son and first wife to be with Yoko Ono who is an anti-American communist. Chapman is a phsyco who deserves to spend the rest of him life in prison. Lennon's entire life was nothing but drugs and music. He cheated on Yoko during his "lost weekend" period.

[jag]

Lennon was an asshole, but the man had awesome talent. His last hit, Woman, was about as good as it gets.

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[Riverboat]

He was a communist sympathizer. . .. He cheated on Yoko during his "lost weekend" period. 1. Reread my post about his "communist" beliefs. 2. If I were married to Yoko, I'd cheat on her, too.

Never liked that song. The lyrics say nothing while trying to give the impression of being humble and thankful. Just like in rea life, a hypocrite. Let's face it, Jag. Songwriting is making stuff up. Cole Porter wrote lovely music about romance. Who'd a thunk he had some other kind of romance in mind?

[jag]

. If I were married to Yoko, I'd cheat on her, too.

Let's face it, Jag. Songwriting is making stuff up. Cole Porter wrote lovely music about romance. Who'd a thunk he had some other kind of romance in mind?

LOL....

True, but woman bothers me.. For one thing, it features the line "Oooh-oooh-oooh, well well, doo-doo-doo-doo-doo", which slightly undermines the sincerity of the song. More to the point, how can he possibly sing "I never meant to cause you sorrow or pain" after such a flagrant gear change? I don't know about Yoko, but I'm left writhing on the floor in agony every time I hear this...(from the truck driver's gear change, hehehe)

[DesertFox]

If I were married to Yoko, I'd commit suicide or murder. Not sure which.

[Riverboat]

If I were married to Yoko, I'd commit suicide or murder. Not sure which.No jury would convict you after they hear her singing. Halfway through side two of Plastic Ono Band - Live Peace in Toronto they would scream for acquittal, then demand that her body be exhumed to be hanged posthumously. Don't want to take chances she might be stirring.

[DeclinetoState]

What's funny is that there is an entirely different group of people from the FC crowd who feel the same way about Yoko: Beatles fans, who probably blame her for the group's break up. (I don't know how logical this connection is, since I don't know when she and John hooked up.) He was probably on drugs the first time they met, and possibly for much of their time together afterward, possibly accounting for the fact they were together at all.

[Riverboat]

What's funny is that there is an entirely different group of people from the FC crowd who feel the same way about Yoko: Beatles fans, who probably blame her for the group's break up. Personally, as a die-hard Beatles fanatic, I'm way past blaming Yucko for their breakup. It was inevitable, in my view. They had been together for over ten years, boxed in by fan adulation. Also, they were grownups who were starting families (at least in one or two cases). Lennon was whacked out on drugs - how else you can explain Yucko? - and headed for a smash-up. Surely that played a big part in the demise of the Beatles.

[DeclinetoState]

They lasted ten years? I thought it was a lot less than that. I suppose if you're counting from the time they actually started performing together, not when they became famous, you're right.

[Riverboat]

I suppose if you're counting from the time they actually started performing together, not when they became famous, you're right.Almost. I was counting the years without Ringo who didn't join until 1962.

[DesertFox]

Their demise I date from Abbey Road, as big a waste of time as ever hit the Top 40. Their last great album was Rubber Soul, and even it didn't compare to their early stuff.