View Full Version : Op/Ed: Is There A Cure For Liberalism?
Pendragon_6
12-14-2005, 09:06 AM
By John W. Lillpop
MichNews.com
Dec 13, 2005
As Dr. Michael Savage has repeatedly pointed out, liberalism is, in fact, a mental disorder. But are there any known cures, good doc?
Sadly, he reports that medical science has yet to discover an effective antidote to the awful bacterial infection of the human brain that spawns liberalism. Scientists are working 24/7 to effect a cure, but to date have not uncovered that miracle.
Perhaps some day soon, there will be a vaccine, sort of like the miracle drugs that wiped out polio and small pox. At that glorious day, just-born infants will be vaccinated for life against congenital liberalism. Already- born folk will be able to recover with oral medications, exercise, fasting and prayer.
Until our medical miracle arrives, we must prevent the spread of this malady by isolating all known liberals so as to at least stop them from reproducing outside their immediate neighborhoods!
MichNews (http://www.michnews.com/artman/publish/article_10808.shtml)
JohnSteel
12-14-2005, 09:43 AM
What a bunch of garbage. Replace "Liberal" with "Jew" and you get something that Hitler would be proud of.
DoctorDoom
12-15-2005, 11:25 AM
Is There A Cure For Liberalism?Fumigation is generally effective when dealing with a rampant infestation of parasites.
Teenager
12-15-2005, 12:11 PM
The cure is a good dose of Christmas Spirit. (http://students.washington.edu/kmeske/images/Made%20PS%20pics/Merry%20Christmas.jpg) Either that or the guillotine (http://www.magicauction.com/Auction_L_Unknown/CUSTOM%20GUILLOTINE%20LU32870.jpg)...
PatrioticAmerican
12-17-2005, 11:27 AM
What a bunch of garbage. Replace "Liberal" with "Jew" and you get something that Hitler would be proud of.
ROTFL
THAT was pretty asinine.
JohnSteel
12-17-2005, 12:02 PM
ROTFL
THAT was pretty asinine.
Why? Because I call anti-Liberal bigotry for what it is? Oh, by the wway it's also unprofessional of both John W Lillpop to write it and MichNews.com to publish it. You guys constantly slam the Mainstream Media for being biased, yet when Conservatives publish biased garbage like this where is the outcry? Must be nice to be a Conservative. You don't have to hold yourselves up to the same ethical standards that you hold Liberals up to.
Pendragon_6
12-17-2005, 12:32 PM
Poor John. Got his head up his ass again.
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-2/955825/headass.jpg
Republican_Legion
12-17-2005, 02:50 PM
He is a FSTDTer also so one could expect him to say it.
HomeschoolrsRUs
12-17-2005, 03:01 PM
Why? Because I call anti-Liberal bigotry for what it is?
No, because you cannot recognize satire when you read it.
Oh, by the wway it's also unprofessional of both John W Lillpop to write it and MichNews.com to publish it.
Ever heard of a little thing called "Freedom of Speech," and "Freedom of the Press"?
You guys constantly slam the Mainstream Media for being biased, yet when Conservatives publish biased garbage like this where is the outcry?
It's a satirical opinion piece, hardly biased NEWS reporting. I know it's hard to differentiate between the two for liberals, because liberal NEWS, Mainstream Media reporting IS the SAME as an opinion piece.
Must be nice to be a Conservative.
Very, :thumb: .
You don't have to hold yourselves up to the same ethical standards that you hold Liberals up to.
By ethics you mean those exhibited by Dan Rather?
BTW, WE didn't write the piece, and WE recognized it for the satire it was. Reminder: this is a CONSERVATIVE forum board, isn't this the proper place to ENJOY conservative satire?
JohnSteel
12-17-2005, 04:36 PM
He is a FSTDTer also so one could expect him to say it.
Who is? I'd almost forgotten that site existed before you guys reminded me about it.
No, because you cannot recognize satire when you read it.
Satire? It looks like stuff that I've seen from racists / anti-semites, only aimed at Liberals. I might have dismissed it if it came from somebody like Jay Leno or the author didn't have such a strong anti-liberal stance.
Ever heard of a little thing called "Freedom of Speech," and "Freedom of the Press"?
Shure. But aren't news organizations / reporters supposed to be unbiased and objective when they report the news?
It's a satirical opinion piece, hardly biased NEWS reporting. I know it's hard to differentiate between the two for liberals, because liberal NEWS, Mainstream Media reporting IS the SAME as an opinion piece.
Would you find it funny if it was aimed at Conservatives instead of Liberals? I've noticed that Conservative reporters use "commentary" a LOT to take pot shots at liberals, often exaggerating or even fabricating stuff to make Liberals look bad. A lot of so-called commentary is nothing more than anti-liberal propaganda. Conservatives engage in so much of this so-called satire that it makes people like me question their objectivity and ethics.
By ethics you mean those exhibited by Dan Rather?
Or by<!--StartFragment --> Hannity when he "debated" Newdow?
BTW, WE didn't write the piece, and WE recognized it for the satire it was. Reminder: this is a CONSERVATIVE forum board, isn't this the proper place to ENJOY conservative satire?
To me it looked like just more of the "I hate Liberals" garbage that comes from Conservatives.
But...but...but liberals ARE mindless idiots.
HomeschoolrsRUs
12-17-2005, 10:11 PM
Satire? It looks like stuff that I've seen from racists / anti-semites, only aimed at Liberals. I might have dismissed it if it came from somebody like Jay Leno or the author didn't have such a strong anti-liberal stance.
So, it would have been okay coming from Jay Leno, but not in an OPINION satire piece by someone not of Leno's caliber? Okay, yeah, that makes sense, :smirky: . It has a strong anti-liberal stance because ... a) it's SATIRE, and b) he's NOT a liberal. That wasn't too hard to figure out, LOL.
Shure. But aren't news organizations / reporters supposed to be unbiased and objective when they report the news?
Your mixing your info again -- this was an OP ED piece, NOT news reporting, NOT mainstream media .... opinions ususally ARE subjective and biased, because they are PERSONAL OPINION. He wasn't REPORTING news ... got it yet?
Would you find it funny if it was aimed at Conservatives instead of Liberals?
No, I don't find it funny when people say things like this:
Michael Moore Quotes (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/m/michael_moore.html)
How about Al Franken, would you consider THIS satire funny because it's aimed at a conservative, instead of a liberal? Franken compares Rush Limbaugh to HITLER, do YOU find that funny? Would it BE funny if the names were switched and a LIBERAL were being compared to Hitler?
“What must it be like to live in Rush Limbaugh’s world? A world where when anyone other than conservative, white men attempts to do anything or enter any profession, be it business, politics, art or sports, the only reason they’re allowed entry or, incredibly, attain excellence is because the standard was lowered. Be they liberals, people of color, women, the poor or anyone with an accent.... Edgy, controversial, brilliant. What a way to shake up intelligent sports commentary. Hitler would have killed in talk radio. He was edgy, too.”
CBS Sunday Morning contributor Nancy Giles on October 5.
Dude, you libs have almost the entire population of Hollyweird speaking "out" against conservatives, almost the entire mainstream media (with the exception of FOX), you've got Franken, Moore, Garofalo, Jon Stewart, liberal messages weaved into almost every television program aired, and you get this worked up over an Op-Ed piece?
I've noticed that Conservative reporters use "commentary" a LOT to take pot shots at liberals, often exaggerating or even fabricating stuff to make Liberals look bad.
Provide links to your assertions, i want to read for myself those Reporter "commentaries" which take pot-shots at liberals, or exaggerate stuff. FABRICATION is left up to Dan Rather and his brigade, so I KNOW you can't provide proof of any conservative examples.
A lot of so-called commentary is nothing more than anti-liberal propaganda.
And what would a lot of so-called commentary by LIBERALS be called? Anti-conservative propaganda? Or are you asserting that liberals don't DO that???
Conservatives engage in so much of this so-called satire that it makes people like me question their objectivity and ethics.
See there you go again, SATIRE and OPINION is NOT objective -- it's satire and opinion. Or are you stating that satire and opinion isn't ethical because it's conservative? You need to get over yourself ... the libs do the exact same thing, and you know it.
I got one for you, take a look at these and tell me how objective and ethical they are:
OpEdNews.Com Progressive, Tough Liberal News and Opinion Home Page (http://www.opednews.com/)
To me it looked like just more of the "I hate Liberals" garbage that comes from Conservatives.
Well then my suggestion would be, don't READ it then! Do you comprehend that there is a SERIOUS rift, a HUGE chasm between conservative and liberal ideologies? You darn tootin' we don't like liberalism -- are we suppose to speak all kittens and cotton-candy, when trying to rally the conservative troops to move for the cause?
You are a hypocrite. I can point to you as many examples of this type of piece coming from liberals as you can coming from conservatives. Tell you what, you get all the horses-tushies on YOUR side to shut their pie-holes, and THEN we'll work on ours .... til then, grow thicker skin, or stop perusing and posting on a conservative forum board.
omegatrump
12-18-2005, 09:13 AM
By John W. Lillpop
MichNews.com
Dec 13, 2005
As Dr. Michael Savage has repeatedly pointed out, liberalism is, in fact, a mental disorder. But are there any known cures, good doc?
Sadly, he reports that medical science has yet to discover an effective antidote to the awful bacterial infection of the human brain that spawns liberalism. Scientists are working 24/7 to effect a cure, but to date have not uncovered that miracle.
Perhaps some day soon, there will be a vaccine, sort of like the miracle drugs that wiped out polio and small pox. At that glorious day, just-born infants will be vaccinated for life against congenital liberalism. Already- born folk will be able to recover with oral medications, exercise, fasting and prayer.
Until our medical miracle arrives, we must prevent the spread of this malady by isolating all known liberals so as to at least stop them from reproducing outside their immediate neighborhoods!
MichNews (http://www.michnews.com/artman/publish/article_10808.shtml)
That's a pretty big order, since both bodies politic have been infected, almost 50% of the people voted exclusively liberal in the last 4 elections.
I believe some major earth shaking events could happen by way of 'God Sent cure to Liberalism'. When God sends it, neither the Liberal Republicans nor the ultra liberal democrats will be able to beat their chest and claim credit for the outcome.
One such event occurred with Sodom and Gomorrah. In Sodom, Metastasized liberalism (the type highly visible now in the Democratic party, Hollywood and the like) was cured by a white hot incineration from the heavens. The effect on the infection was almost 100%. Lots wife still showing signs of the infection was dealt with away from the heat. Lot still showed signs of the infection in some of his activities, hence I said Almost 100%
omegatrump
12-18-2005, 09:25 AM
What a bunch of garbage. Replace "Liberal" with "Jew" and you get something that Hitler would be proud of.
Questionable comment deleted by DD.
Liberalism is a mental disorder, whether it be a Hollywood Jew or a Republican Senator, or a Drunk womanizing Catholic (Ted Kennedy for example), or a black womanizing master of extortion (Jesse Jackson as an example there).
The cure may have to be the same for the whole lot of them.
Popperite
12-18-2005, 09:57 AM
There are Jew's in this country, IE the Liberal Hollywood crowd, that deserves a Hitler in their life. Not to be confused with Israel and those who actually practice their faith.
Liberalism is a mental disorder, whether it be a Hollywood Jew or a Republican Senator, or a Drunk womanizing Catholic (Ted Kennedy for example), or a black womanizing master of extortion (Jesse Jackson as an example there).
The cure may have to be the same for the whole lot of them.
And this I suppose is also to be taken as satire? Hmmm... maybe JohnSteel has a point.
Timberwolf
12-18-2005, 04:02 PM
Okaaaayyy...show us some examples of sane, logical liberal ideas.
JohnSteel
12-18-2005, 04:49 PM
Your mixing your info again -- this was an OP ED piece, NOT news reporting, NOT mainstream media .... opinions ususally ARE subjective and biased, because they are PERSONAL OPINION. He wasn't REPORTING news ... got it yet?
It makes me question the objectivity of the news reporting. If they will publish an opinion like that then I have to wonder if their news reporting will be unbiased.
How about Al Franken, would you consider THIS satire funny because it's aimed at a conservative, instead of a liberal? Franken compares Rush Limbaugh to HITLER, do YOU find that funny? Would it BE funny if the names were switched and a LIBERAL were being compared to Hitler?
No I do not find it funny.
Provide links to your assertions, i want to read for myself those Reporter "commentaries" which take pot-shots at liberals, or exaggerate stuff. FABRICATION is left up to Dan Rather and his brigade, so I KNOW you can't provide proof of any conservative examples.
http://www.michnews.com/artman/publish/article_10895.shtml
"<!--StartFragment -->Here in liberal New York City, where uttering the words “Merry Christmas” in the wrong place can bring anything from a sneer to an ACLU lawsuit, you can always find left-wing lunatics who love to ruin the yuletide spirit."
An exaggeration.
And what would a lot of so-called commentary by LIBERALS be called? Anti-conservative propaganda? Or are you asserting that liberals don't DO that???
Yes anti-Conservative propaganda.
Well then my suggestion would be, don't READ it then! Do you comprehend that there is a SERIOUS rift, a HUGE chasm between conservative and liberal ideologies?
Yes.
You darn tootin' we don't like liberalism -- are we suppose to speak all kittens and cotton-candy, when trying to rally the conservative troops to move for the cause?
By all means don't pull your punches when knocking down Liberalism. However I fail to see what good stiring up anger / hate does.
You are a hypocrite. I can point to you as many examples of this type of piece coming from liberals as you can coming from conservatives. Tell you what, you get all the horses-tushies on YOUR side to shut their pie-holes, and THEN we'll work on ours .... til then, grow thicker skin, or stop perusing and posting on a conservative forum board.
How am I a hypocrite? When Liberals do it it's still garbage.
Popperite
12-18-2005, 04:52 PM
Okaaaayyy...show us some examples of sane, logical liberal ideas.
Well, I don't know if this is a liberal idea, and I sure hope it is not exclusively, but I just saw a poster here stating in so many words that his particular political adversaries should be treated the way Hitler treated the Jews. The idea being that this is, satire or not, offensive.
Popperite
12-18-2005, 07:32 PM
No, because you cannot recognize satire when you read it.
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Reminder: this is a CONSERVATIVE forum board, isn't this the proper place to ENJOY conservative satire?
Until our medical miracle arrives, we must prevent the spread of this malady by isolating all known liberals so as to at least stop them from reproducing outside their immediate neighborhoods!
Satire or not. I do not find this enjoyable. Same goes for omegatrumps last post.
HomeschoolrsRUs
12-18-2005, 08:01 PM
It makes me question the objectivity of the news reporting. If they will publish an opinion like that then I have to wonder if their news reporting will be unbiased.
Ahhh, okay, now I get it, you're advocating CENSORSHIP?
Why would publishing an OPINION piece make you question the objectivity of the news reporting? Does that mean that I am now free to question the objectivity of the news reporting in my local paper because they publish blatantly and overt liberal opinion pieces (because they DO, they really do).
No I do not find it funny.
So then I can count on you to visit some liberal sites protesting this type of speech against conservatives? Will you get as worked up about anti-conservative satire as you have this example of anti-liberal satire?
Well here's a perfect opportunity, take a gander:
Capitol Hill Blue: Bush on the Constitution: 'It's just a g**damned piece of paper' (http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_7779.shtml)
http://www.michnews.com/artman/publish/article_10895.shtml
"<!--StartFragment -->Here in liberal New York City, where uttering the words “Merry Christmas” in the wrong place can bring anything from a sneer to an ACLU lawsuit, you can always find left-wing lunatics who love to ruin the yuletide spirit."
An exaggeration.
You REALLY don't know the difference between opinion/commentary and news reporting. So that type of commentary is not acceptable, why? Because it's conservative in nature? Will you also condem all liberal commentary that vilifies conservatives? Or should we just censor ALL commentary?
Commentary is opinion, it is not news reporting (hence the type of media piece -- commentary). Reporting the news, is taking and reporting the news, with NO added commentary, and NO interpretive spin. NO news outlet of today, liberal or conservative, has managed to make that mark, and in fact has left it far and wide away.
Yes anti-Conservative propaganda.
So will you decry it, as well?
By all means don't pull your punches when knocking down Liberalism. However I fail to see what good stiring up anger / hate does.
Why shouldn't we be angry? Why shouldn't we be stirring up our fellow conservatives? We perceive a real threat to our way of life, to what we hold dear, to the values, principles, morals and foundations this country was built upon! We endure attacks on many fronts, and yet we are supposed to say "nice" things about the liberal opposition? Do the liberals practice what you seem to be preaching to us?
How am I a hypocrite? When Liberals do it it's still garbage.
Really? I would LOVE to see your observations of "when liberals do it" on the various and sundry OTHER boards you frequent. Please direct me to the posts where you vilify and call to task liberals for liberal anti-conservative commentary.
HomeschoolrsRUs
12-18-2005, 08:05 PM
Satire or not. I do not find this enjoyable. Same goes for omegatrumps last post.
Then your choices are, don't read it, or avoid FreeConservatives because we are liable to post many more things you won't find enjoyable. Our goal is not to make liberals cozy and comfortable within our ranks, so the fact that you aren't shouldn't be all that surprising to you.
Popperite
12-18-2005, 08:10 PM
Then your choices are, don't read it, or avoid FreeConservatives because we are liable to post many more things you won't find enjoyable. Our goal is not to make liberals cozy and comfortable within our ranks, so the fact that you aren't shouldn't be all that surprising to you.
I take it then that on this board it is OK for people to express the opinion that certain groups of people "deserve a Hitler in their life". This being specifically directed against jews. Is it the policy of this forum to allow such comments?
DoctorDoom
12-18-2005, 09:48 PM
How can we miss the Steel nitwit if he won't stay away.
Post #6:
Why? Because I call anti-Liberal bigotry for what it is?No. Because you're an immature little pup who hasn't a clue about the real world.
Oh, by the wway it's also unprofessional of both John W Lillpop to write it and MichNews.com to publish it.So what's your idea of "professional" journalism? The NY Times? Dan Rather? Al Jazeera? The Weekly World News?
You guys constantly slam the Mainstream Media for being biased ...Because it is.
... yet when Conservatives publish biased garbage like this where is the outcry?Buy a clue, liberal: this is an OPINION piece, not a news item. As such, there is no call for "professionalism" or objectivity.
Must be nice to be a Conservative.Every time I read the vacuous piffle from liberalosers like you, I consider myself blessed to be a conservative.
You don't have to hold yourselves up to the same ethical standards that you hold Liberals up to.Again you miss the whole point, kid. When we speak of MSM bias, we refer to its shameless, leftist spin on NEWS, which no responsible journalist would ever support. Bias in editorials and columns is natural and expected.
The column that is the subject of this thread is OPINION. And in case your little mind hasn't yet grasped the fact, this thread is in the OP/ED forum, not the NEWS forum.
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Post #10:
Satire? It looks like stuff that I've seen from racists / anti-semites, only aimed at Liberals.Unlike blacks and Jews, liberals richly deserve mockery, ridicule and scorn. And IAC, your pathetic attempt to equate the column with racism or anti-Semitism demonstrates only your utter dearth of reasonable arguments.
I might have dismissed it if it came from somebody like Jay Leno or the author didn't have such a strong anti-liberal stance.And we should care about your reaction to it because?
Shure. But aren't news organizations / reporters supposed to be unbiased and objective when they report the news?Are you working on your doctorate in stupidity? Repeating our top story: this is an opinion column, NOT a news item.
Would you find it funny if it was aimed at Conservatives instead of Liberals?We're used to the babblings of liberal idiots, ergo such pieces from liberals are expected.
I've noticed that Conservative reporters use "commentary" a LOT to take pot shots at liberals ...And we've noticed that liberals have no shame about using alleged news items to "take pot shots" at conservatives. Therein lies the difference, child.
... often exaggerating or even fabricating stuff to make Liberals look bad.Oh, for piss sake, you prattling little fool, NOTHING we could do would ever make liberals look 1% as bad as their own actions and writings have accomplished.
A lot of so-called commentary is nothing more than anti-liberal propaganda.And? Is that not the milieu of opinion pieces? Have you ever read the sewage from leftist <s>assholes</s> columnists such as Molly Ivins? The venom and hatred gush from their writrings like toxic waste.
Conservatives engage in so much of this so-called satire that it makes people like me question their objectivity and ethics.:whine: :whine: :whine: :whine: :whine: :whine: :whine: :whine:
Reality time, dipstick: this is a CONSERVATIVE message board, by definition a site for OPINIONS. If you expect us to kiss liberal ass lest we offend you, you're going to grow a long, hoary beard waiting.
To me it looked like just more of the "I hate Liberals" garbage that comes from Conservatives.As opposed, no doubt, to the "I hate conservatives" garbage that comes from liberals on Internet sewers such as DUh, BartCop, et al.
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Post #17, and still fatuous:
It makes me question the objectivity of the news reporting. If they will publish an opinion like that then I have to wonder if their news reporting will be unbiased.Bring your whining to the NYT, the Boston Globe, and all the other hyperliberal rags whose op-ed pages are laced with hatred and rancor far worse than the MichNews column that has you up in arms.
DoctorDoom
12-18-2005, 09:57 PM
I take it then that on this board it is OK for people to express the opinion that certain groups of people "deserve a Hitler in their life". This being specifically directed against jews. Is it the policy of this forum to allow such comments?The comment has been deleted.
OTOH, Steel's banal equation of the column with nazism is typical liberal "argument". When all else fails, invoke Hitler.
Godwin's Law (also Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies) is an adage in Internet culture that was originated by Mike Godwin in 1990. The law states: "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one."
HomeschoolrsRUs
12-18-2005, 10:00 PM
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Then your choices are, don't read it, or avoid FreeConservatives because we are liable to post many more things you won't find enjoyable. Our goal is not to make liberals cozy and comfortable within our ranks, so the fact that you aren't shouldn't be all that surprising to you.
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I take it then that on this board it is OK for people to express the opinion that certain groups of people "deserve a Hitler in their life". This being specifically directed against jews. Is it the policy of this forum to allow such comments?
Quite a remarkable jump from my statements to your assertion.
I in no way understand what the poster was trying to say with that "statement," so I won't even attempt to decipher the true meaning. When I read it, I took it to be a jab at the liberal hypocrisy of the Jewish members of Hollyweird and their blind support of liberal policies (i.e. they need to understand exactly what their Jewish brethren ACTUALLY went through during Hitler's reign, so they can appreciate how well they have it here in the good old US of A).
Apparently you interpreted something more that I, I did not get out of the statement what you appear to have read into it. I defer to my fellow Admin (DoctorDoom), and stand behind his decision to handle the matter.
DoctorDoom
12-18-2005, 10:05 PM
I purged the comment because it could easily be read as calling for another Hitler. Rather than leave such an interpretation open, the comment in question went away.
HomeschoolrsRUs
12-18-2005, 10:07 PM
I purged the comment, not because of its implications, but because it could easily be read as calling for another Hitler. Rather than leave such an interpretation open, the comment in question went away.
:thumb: , as I said, I stand behind your decision ... it's obvious the statement had way too much room for a negative interpretation. Thank you for handling the situation most appropriately (and I apologize for not seeing it myself and doing something about it sooner).
Popperite
12-18-2005, 10:20 PM
Quite a remarkable jump from my statements to your assertion.
I in no way understand what the poster was trying to say with that "statement," so I won't even attempt to decipher the true meaning. When I read it, I took it to be a jab at the liberal hypocrisy of the Jewish members of Hollyweird and their blind support of liberal policies (i.e. they need to understand exactly what their Jewish brethren ACTUALLY went through during Hitler's reign, so they can appreciate how well they have it here in the good old US of A).
Apparently you interpreted something more that I, I did not get out of the statement what you appear to have read into it. I defer to my fellow Admin (DoctorDoom), and stand behind his decision to handle the matter.
Well I mentioned OT's post in my comment, so it was included. Other then you I didn't see this as a lecture, but even if it was I would still find it highly unappropriate. Political dissent is allowed and a perfectly normal occurence in a democracy. It does not warrant saying to jewish liberals, if you don't like it here then...... The alternative being Hitler.
The issue however is dealt with as I gather.
DesertFox
12-18-2005, 10:22 PM
Popperite, the "need a Hitler in their life" comment was indeed over the top and has been removed. Now move on.
HomeschoolrsRUs
12-18-2005, 10:24 PM
The issue however is dealt with as I gather.
Gee, how can we be so reasonable, I mean we ARE conservatives, we are supposed to be insensitive, and fawn all over anti-liberal propaganda, right? :smirky:
(Please note, in case it is not supremely obvious, that was SARCASM, http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/images/icons/icon7.gif )
DoctorDoom
12-19-2005, 01:33 AM
Popperite, the "need a Hitler in their life" comment was indeed over the top and has been removed. Now move on.It's unwise to annoy the folks with the red usernames. :D
Timberwolf
12-19-2005, 08:24 AM
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Okaaaayyy...show us some examples of sane, logical liberal ideas.
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Well, I don't know if this is a liberal idea, and I sure hope it is not exclusively, but I just saw a poster here stating in so many words that his particular political adversaries should be treated the way Hitler treated the Jews. The idea being that this is, satire or not, offensive.
....and where was your outcry when it was LIBERALS calling for Henry Hyde to "be stoned", or comparing our liberation of Iraq to the Nazi invasion of Europe, or that "conservatives just need to die" (Franken, I believe?)...Poppy, thy name is hypocrite...
FTR, you really missed the point. I wanted, from you, examples to rebut that "liberalism is a mental disorder". Those examples should be programs/initiatives/basic ideas put forth by the liberal leadership in this country...but, of course you couldn't do so, and so deflected attention away from my request (in classic leftist fashion).
omegatrump
12-19-2005, 12:15 PM
Satire or not. I do not find this enjoyable. Same goes for omegatrumps last post.
My dear Popperite. America itself, because of the influence of Liberalism has endured a Holocaust far more in number than anything the poor Jews suffered under Hitler. If you were a reader of my post's you would find I am a very strong supporter of Israel and the True Jews (of Faith). The Hollywood scum who often try to hide behind some notion of Kosher have actually positioned themselves as enemies of mankind with their attempt to contaminate the entire world with their deviant, perverted, filthy lifestyles. 45,000,000 innocent children have died and been put in the incinerators as a result of the support of these filthy defilers. Were these children killed outside of their mothers womb, (some actually are) and had a voice, there would be an out cry for JUSTICE.
That Americans can just stand by and watch the destruction of virtue, and call it tolerance is unconscionable.
Perhaps I should have rephrased my 'satire' to say; Those Hollywood deviants, pumping millions of dollars into the campaigns for liberalism should have an abortion clinic in their life.
I said something similar to an Abortion Doctor once, not long after that he quite doing abortions. I wonder how many little kids are walking and breathing today because I was so insensitive?
Popperite
12-19-2005, 01:30 PM
....and where was your outcry when it was LIBERALS calling for Henry Hyde to "be stoned", or comparing our liberation of Iraq to the Nazi invasion of Europe, or that "conservatives just need to die" (Franken, I believe?)...Poppy, thy name is hypocrite...
FTR, you really missed the point. I wanted, from you, examples to rebut that "liberalism is a mental disorder". Those examples should be programs/initiatives/basic ideas put forth by the liberal leadership in this country...but, of course you couldn't do so, and so deflected attention away from my request (in classic leftist fashion).
I don't generally go about commenting on rudeness in political discourse or on politics in general. Sorry if you have a problem with that. I stumbled on this one and it annoyed me. That I am not automatically responsive to all of them as they get to your notice hardly makes me a hypocrite. I don't know who said what about Hyde, but I do dissaprove of nazi slurs in general, as I do deplore the level of political debate in general. Whether it be Franken or O'Reilly. You don't see me commenting on political discourse or politics in general a lot here for that exact reason. I intend to keep it that way, so you will have to direct your question elsewhere. This one raised a question about the policies of the board and raised my curiosity for that reason.
JohnSteel
12-19-2005, 04:13 PM
Ahhh, okay, now I get it, you're advocating CENSORSHIP?
Isn't self-censorship a part of professional news reporting? Like for example you don't publish stuff that you know to be false.
Why would publishing an OPINION piece make you question the objectivity of the news reporting?
What purpose does it serve? To be funny? Or to be hatefull?
Does that mean that I am now free to question the objectivity of the news reporting in my local paper because they publish blatantly and overt liberal opinion pieces (because they DO, they really do).
If you like.
So then I can count on you to visit some liberal sites protesting this type of speech against conservatives? Will you get as worked up about anti-conservative satire as you have this example of anti-liberal satire?
Well here's a perfect opportunity, take a gander:
Capitol Hill Blue: Bush on the Constitution: 'It's just a g**damned piece of paper' (http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_7779.shtml)
Shure, If I see a post about that article on a messageboard that I visit I will reply calling it garbage, just like I have done here.
You REALLY don't know the difference between opinion/commentary and news reporting. So that type of commentary is not acceptable, why? Because it's conservative in nature?
No.
Will you also condem all liberal commentary that vilifies conservatives?
If it's purpose is to promote hate, falsehoods, ect. I'll condem it.
So will you decry it, as well?
Yes, I do.
Why shouldn't we be angry? Why shouldn't we be stirring up our fellow conservatives?
It's good that you get angry when you hear about corruption, incopetence, foolishnes, stupidity, ect. What I object to isn't that you stir up others, it's how you stir up others.
We perceive a real threat to our way of life, to what we hold dear, to the values, principles, morals and foundations this country was built upon! We endure attacks on many fronts, and yet we are supposed to say "nice" things about the liberal opposition? Do the liberals practice what you seem to be preaching to us?
Call attention to the threat to your way of life. Educate people on that threat. Oraginize against it. But don't promote blind hatrid of that threat.
Really? I would LOVE to see your observations of "when liberals do it" on the various and sundry OTHER boards you frequent. Please direct me to the posts where you vilify and call to task liberals for liberal anti-conservative commentary.
I haven't seen people post similar stuff on the other boards that I visit. So you'll just have to trust me.
omegatrump
12-19-2005, 04:47 PM
Isn't self-censorship a part of professional news reporting? Like for example you don't publish stuff that you know to be false.
What purpose does it serve? To be funny? Or to be hatefull?
If you like.
[FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000080]Shure, If I see a post about that article on a messageboard that I visit I will reply calling it garbage, just like I have done here.
No.
If it's purpose is to promote hate, falsehoods, ect. I'll condem it.
Yes, I do.
It's good that you get angry when you hear about corruption, incopetence, foolishnes, stupidity, ect. What I object to isn't that you stir up others, it's how you stir up others.
Call attention to the threat to your way of life. Educate people on that threat. Oraginize against it. But don't promote blind hatrid of that threat.
I haven't seen people post similar stuff on the other boards that I visit. So you'll just have to trust me.
Don't promote blind hatred of that threat? Why? Is the Hatred of moral decadence and debauchery Taboo for some reason? Where is there a law that says I can't hate Evil? Who stirs up my hatred for Evil, only those who put their Evil in my face and tell me I can't Hate it?
JohnSteel
12-19-2005, 04:53 PM
So what's your idea of "professional" journalism? The NY Times? Dan Rather? Al Jazeera? The Weekly World News?
professional journalism is pretty much dead. 99% of news organizations are biased, incompetent, or both.
Unlike blacks and Jews, liberals richly deserve mockery, ridicule and scorn. And IAC, your pathetic attempt to equate the column with racism or anti-Semitism demonstrates only your utter dearth of reasonable arguments.
http://www.michnews.com/artman/publish/article_10808.shtml
"Sadly, he reports that medical science has yet to discover an effective antidote to the awful bacterial infection of the human brain that spawns liberalism."
In Nazi Germany Jews were considered to be genetically inferior by Hitler and gang. (edit - racially inferior if that's a better description)
"Until our medical miracle arrives, we must prevent the spread of this malady by isolating all known liberals so as to at least stop them from reproducing outside their immediate neighborhoods!"
Hitler isolated the Jews from the rest of society before he started the extermination camps.
Have you ever read the sewage from leftist <S>assholes</S> columnists such as Molly Ivins?
Nope, never read anything by Molly Ivins.
Reality time, dipstick: this is a CONSERVATIVE message board, by definition a site for OPINIONS. If you expect us to kiss liberal ass lest we offend you, you're going to grow a long, hoary beard waiting.
Who was talking about this messageboard? It wasn't me.
As opposed, no doubt, to the "I hate conservatives" garbage that comes from liberals on Internet sewers such as DUh, BartCop, et al.
Never heard of BartCop, and DUh isn't liberal.
Bring your whining to the NYT, the Boston Globe, and all the other hyperliberal rags whose op-ed pages are laced with hatred and rancor far worse than the MichNews column that has you up in arms.
If they publish stuff that I object to then I will (if I see it).
JohnSteel
12-19-2005, 05:03 PM
Don't promote blind hatred of that threat? Why?
Because it makes you look like irrational fools.
omegatrump
12-19-2005, 05:50 PM
Because it makes you look like irrational fools.
No it doesn't, a blind mans hatred for Sin is a credit to his integrity. Your love for Sin will always be your reproach. The fool has said in his heart that there is no God. It's the fool who believes there is no recompense for his sin.
JohnSteel
12-19-2005, 06:21 PM
No it doesn't, a blind mans hatred for Sin is a credit to his integrity. Your love for Sin will always be your reproach.
I wasn't talking about handicapped people.
The fool has said in his heart that there is no God. It's the fool who believes there is no recompense for his sin.
Isn't that a Bible verse?
DoctorDoom
12-20-2005, 06:27 AM
... and DUh isn't liberal.Say what???? Kid, you just nulled your credibility.
Isn't that a Bible verse?The first sentence is. Look it up.
JohnSteel
12-20-2005, 03:27 PM
Say what???? Kid, you just nulled your credibility.
If they are liberal then I'm not.
What makes them liberal?
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