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Titus
12-15-2005, 02:08 PM
GOP Congressman to Fox: 'Shut Up'<O:p</O:p
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by Robert B. Bluey
Posted Dec 15, 2005
U.S. Rep. J.D. Hayworth (R.-Ariz.) said Thursday that Mexican President Vicente Fox should “shut up” about his opposition to a proposed U.S.-Mexico border fence.
Fox on Wednesday called the idea of a fence “disgraceful and shameful.”
“I’m going to step away from diplomatic rules and offer President Fox some straight talk: President Fox should shut up,” Hayworth told HUMAN EVENTS. “He should shut up about all of this because he is only fanning the flames of poor relations between our two nations. He needs to cease and desist.”
Hayworth continued: “What’s disgraceful is President Fox presuming to lecture the United States on how best to protect itself against an invasion -- an invasion that has his wholehearted advocacy. . . . He needs to stop his advocacy of an invasion of his countrymen into our nation. What’s shameful is that, as the president of the Republic of Mexico, he does nothing to stem this invasion. He actively endorses it.”
Speaking Wednesday in the Tamaulipas state bordering Texas, Fox said: “The disgraceful and shameful construction of walls, the increasing enforcement of security systems and increasing violation of human rights and labor rights will not protect the economy of the United States.”
The House of Representatives, as early as today, will consider an amendment to the fast-moving Republican immigration reform bill. Sponsored by Armed Services Chairman Duncan Hunter (R.-Calif.), the amendment mandates the construction of a fence along the U.S.-Mexico border and requires a study of possible physical barriers along the U.S.-Canada border.
Colin Hanna, president of WeNeedAFence.com, said Fox’s comments could ultimately backfire.
“President Fox’s belligerent statements are not helpful, and are certainly not the remarks of a statesman, never mind an American ally,” Hanna said. “We hear reports that the Mexican military and government officials are actually helping illegal aliens cross the border. If President Fox really wanted to help, he would turn his attention toward ways to stop the official and unofficial fostering of the massive tide of illegal immigration.”
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Titus
12-15-2005, 02:09 PM
Damn, it is about time someone said something. How many want to bet he asks for a an apoligize?
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pepsipaul
12-15-2005, 04:29 PM
Probably will be asked, but he won't apologize. He was right no what he said, no one should make him apologize for being right.
Kathy29
12-15-2005, 05:57 PM
We should be hanging foxy in effigy right about now. Right in front of the mexican embassy.
PatrioticAmerican
12-15-2005, 09:15 PM
I'll echo the sentiment:
Vincente, STFU. Do something about the corruption and inequities in your country already.
TSawyer2112
12-15-2005, 11:42 PM
:eureka: Since Fox and his fellow citizens refuse to recognize the sovereign border dividing our two countries, perhaps it's about time to make Mexico the 51st state. That southern Mexican border would be a helluva lot easier to patrol. Plus, I hear there's oil down there.
Lazarus
12-16-2005, 08:09 AM
Hayworth, huh? Im gonna remember that name... Apparently there are a few rare courageous statesmen in Washington...
BTW, Im tired of hearing the call for closing the border coming ONLY from the House of Reps... Where is the Senate on this issue?
Oh yes, I forgot - The Senate is too dignified to actually get their privilaged hands dirty to PROTECT OUR NATIONAL SOVEREIGNTY!!!
Kathy29
12-16-2005, 09:31 AM
Immigration enforcement passed with all guest worker provisions stripped form it. Also passed was the bill to build a wall along the southern border. vinnie the fox responded by promising ladders for his people to scale the fence. If that's not a declaration of war, and promise of outright invasion I don't know what is.
DesertFox
12-16-2005, 10:29 AM
He was right no what he said, no one should make him apologize for being right.Huh?
The_RANDy_Corporation
12-16-2005, 10:55 AM
Screw the fence. Landmines are a lot cheaper.
Beowulf
12-16-2005, 06:34 PM
No, Randy. A wall with mines on the Mexican side and concertina wire at the top. Aw hell, put a machine gun nest at the top.
Uncle Fester
12-17-2005, 10:55 AM
It truly must be embarrassing to live in Mexico--a slum nation next to most prosperous nation on Earth.
It's akin to people on welfare. Eventually you get fed up with shame of being a failure, so you go on the offensive--that way you don't have to look at the ugly reflection of truth staring at you in the mirror each morning.
This problem (Mexican immigration) is only going to get worse because (1), our elected leaders--one in particular--are too snake-charmed by the concept of diversity and screaming accusations of racism to do anything about it, and (2), Mexican cultural/legal/government incompetence.
Besides, we 'stole' their land! Ergo, everything we've built through blood, sweat, and tears should belong to them! After all, we all know that California, Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas would have achieved the same level of prosperity had they been under Mexican control as they have under American guidance.
Get a clue, Fox. You are a failure. Your culture is a failure. Your country is a failure. And your people, collectively, are failures.
And I don't want my culture and country polluted by failure just because someone can wade across a river.
Message to our leaders: Stop pretending that defense of our borders is just about drug trafficking and terrorist threats. Hit the damn nail on the head.
Republican_Legion
12-17-2005, 11:12 AM
It truly must be embarrassing to live in Mexico--a slum nation next to most prosperous nation on Earth.
It's akin to people on welfare. Get a clue, Fox. You are a failure. Your culture is a failure. Your country is a failure. And your people, collectively, are failures.
My moms family is from mexico and I have never heard of mexico being a welfare state. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico#Economy
And heres mexicos conservative party
that put FOX in power
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Action_Party_%28Mexico%29
Gets your facts right before assuming things .
Republican_Legion
12-17-2005, 11:14 AM
Your culture is a failure. And your people, collectively, are failures.
So my family in mexico is a failure ?
Your a RACIST.
Republican_Legion
12-17-2005, 11:15 AM
Get a clue, Fox. You are a failure.
Well then GWB is also since he is open border also.
Uncle Fester
12-17-2005, 12:21 PM
So my family in mexico is a failure ?
Your a RACIST.
First of all, it's "you're," not "your."
Second, golly gee, I guess I should recant my views just because your family is in Mexico. Wonderful debating point!
Uncle Fester
12-17-2005, 12:22 PM
Well then GWB is also since he is open border also.
I've held that opinion about him for quite a while.
Uncle Fester
12-17-2005, 12:24 PM
My moms family is from mexico and I have never heard of mexico being a welfare state. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico#Economy
And heres mexicos conservative party
that put FOX in power
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Action_Party_%28Mexico%29
Gets your facts right before assuming things .
I'm not assuming anything. I've been there enough times to be able to cite firsthand knowledge.
And I didn't say that Mexico is a welfare state. I made a comparison of Mexico's attitude regarding their opinions on illegal immigration and the strength of their nation with the willfully blind opinions of lifetime welfare recipients.
As such, it is you who needs to learn to grasp facts.
PatrioticAmerican
12-17-2005, 12:49 PM
The entire Patron system in Mexico is the reliance on a Patron to provide for you and your family if you work the Patron's land. That is akin to Welfare. Except Mexicans actually do work for their perceived entitlements.
Mexican culture is in fact a failure. Evidenced by their desperate need to come here to survive.
Republican_Legion
12-17-2005, 02:41 PM
The entire Patron system in Mexico is the reliance on a Patron to provide for you and your family if you work the Patron's land. That is akin to Welfare. Except Mexicans actually do work for their perceived entitlements.
Mexican culture is in fact a failure. Evidenced by their desperate need to come here to survive.
My family over there has no intentions of leaving mexico period.
Republican_Legion
12-17-2005, 02:42 PM
I'm not assuming anything. I've been there enough times to be able to cite firsthand knowledge.
And I didn't say that Mexico is a welfare state. I made a comparison of Mexico's attitude regarding their opinions on illegal immigration and the strength of their nation with the willfully blind opinions of lifetime welfare recipients.
As such, it is you who needs to learn to grasp facts.
I know the facts, you still havent learned them .
omegatrump
01-06-2006, 08:37 PM
Mexico's culture is utterly corrupt. I could tell you stories for hours on what I have seen in Mexico. I've seen more of Mexico than 90+% of the Mexicans that now live in this country.
Patriotic American is right, at least the Mexicans do work for their perceived entitlements. (In Mexico that is)
omegatrump
01-06-2006, 08:45 PM
Hayworth, I'm going to keep an eye on him. I'm so sick of the treasonous bunch of scum we have running this country.
Atta Boy, Mr Hayworth!
DoctorDoom
01-07-2006, 07:33 AM
First, RL, to the charge of racism, are you sure you're not a liberal? Since when is "Mexican" a race?
My family over there has no intentions of leaving mexico period.And that is known as anecdotal evidence, i.e., a personal experience presented as evidence of a larger premise. What your family does is meaningless, since over six million Mexicans are in the US illegally, and more millions are here through legal channels. If Mexico is that damned great, why the bloody hell are they swarming here? Why are there not millions of US citizens illegally crossing into Tacoland?
Here's your paradise, from the 2005 CIA Factbook:
Environment - current issues:
scarcity of hazardous waste disposal facilities; rural to urban migration; natural fresh water resources scarce and polluted in north, inaccessible and poor quality in center and extreme southeast; raw sewage and industrial effluents polluting rivers in urban areas; deforestation; widespread erosion; desertification; deteriorating agricultural lands; serious air and water pollution in the national capital and urban centers along US-Mexico border; land subsidence in Valley of Mexico caused by groundwater depletion
note: the government considers the lack of clean water and deforestation national security issuesHere's Mexico City.
http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/cabs/images/mexico%20city%20pollution.jpg
The Mexican Health Secretariat says that more than a third of Mexico's disease burden is the result of environmental factors, the most serious of which is air pollution. A recent CEC study found that respiratory ailments related to air pollution were the cause of death for at least half of the more than 2,800 minors who died in the northern border city of Ciudad Juarez. Though especially pressing in the country's largest cities (e.g. Mexico City, Guadalajara, and Ciudad Juarez), air pollution also has intensified along the border with the United States because of the growing number of factories ("maquiladoras") located there, as well as the increased truck traffic with the United States. Air pollution in northern Mexico also impacts the United States border areas.
Mexico City has the worst air pollution in the country and ranks among the most polluted cities in the world. Its ozone levels exceed World Health Organization standards 300 days a year, and SEMARNAT has estimated that the air in Ciudad Juarez is 40% less contaminated than in the capital. Exhaust fumes from Mexico City's estimated 4 million motor vehicles, many of which are old and especially environmentally damaging, are the main source of air pollutants. The city's air problem is aggravated by its unique geography. Mexico City resides in a basin more than 7,400 feet above sea level and is surrounded on three sides by mountains. These isolate the city from regional weather disturbances and trap pollution.Mexico: Environmental Issues (http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/cabs/mexenv.html)
If I lived in a shithole like that, I'd damned well try to get out of it. Maybe Fox ought to pull his head out of his ass and do something to make Mexico more livable rather than buying ladders for wetbacks.
Build the wall and shoot any pendejo that crosses anywhere but through legal gates. And if that pompous asshole Fox doesn't like it, black-bag the bastard.
BTW ...
Q: why are there no Mexican Olympic champions?
A: any Mexican who can run, jump or swim is in the US.
sunsettommy
01-07-2006, 07:59 AM
Well golly.
I live in a region that has a lot of Mexicans living in it.They are here because it is a better life than in Mexico for them.They still have some relatives and family members living in Mexico.Those people down there get some money from Mexicans up here to sustain them.
In my own work group there are 3 Mexicans and they have NO intentions of leaving America for the land of corruption and pollution.It is not surprising why.
Doom make good points here.The life down there is not very exciting and with a lot of pollution and economic problems.It is no surprise that many risk their VERY LIFE to sneak across the border.
I see them all the time in stores,restaurants,parks,immigration offices and at work.They are happier to be here as it is sooooooo much better place to live than down there in Mexico.
Really there is no mystery why Mexicans go to great effort to evade the border patrol and criminally enter America.
The Cubans do it.
The Chinese,
The Russians,
Koreans,
Filipinos and so on.
All these people coming from their country that has a lot of political, environmental and economic problems to one that has much more freedom and economic potential for even the illegal aliens to tap into.
Golly.
Riverboat
01-07-2006, 01:49 PM
Screw the fence. Landmines are a lot cheaper.Paul McCartney's missus will object. She'll try to kick you with her leg, so watch yer backside.
Hmm. Tancredo/Hayworth. I like the sound of that ticket. You?
Timberwolf
01-07-2006, 02:20 PM
I find the hypocrisy of V. Fox utterly amazing. Mexico's ZeroTolerance policy on illegal immigration (concerning other Central American countries) is quite harsh...maybe we should steal a page from his playbook...
omegatrump
01-08-2006, 09:58 AM
Paul McCartney's missus will object. She'll try to kick you with her leg, so watch yer backside.
Hmm. Tancredo/Hayworth. I like the sound of that ticket. You?
I'd break my promise and vote for them
Beowulf
01-08-2006, 08:26 PM
maybe we should steal a page from his playbook...
And we have by deciding to build a wall and Vicente doesn't like his own policy being used against him. Do I hear that violin playing "My Heart Bleeds For You?" somewhere in the backround?
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