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Lighthouse_MIDI
03-05-2003, 10:26 AM
THE PRESIDENT mulls a strike against Iraq, which he calls an "outlaw nation" in league with an "unholy axis of terrorists, drug traffickers and organized international criminals." The talk among world leaders, however, focuses on diplomacy. France, Russia, China, and most Arab nations oppose military action. U.N. secretary general Kofi Annan prepares a last-ditch attempt to convince Saddam Hussein to abide by the U.N. resolutions he agreed to at the end of the Gulf War.

Administration rhetoric could hardly be stronger. The president asks the nation to consider this question: What if Saddam Hussein "fails to comply, and we fail to act, or we take some ambiguous third route which gives him yet more opportunities to develop his program of weapons of mass destruction and continue to press for the release of the sanctions and continue to ignore the solemn commitments that he made? Well, he will conclude that the international community has lost its will. He will then conclude that he can go right on and do more to rebuild an arsenal of devastating destruction."

The president's warnings are firm. "If we fail to respond today, Saddam and all those who would follow in his footsteps will be emboldened tomorrow." The stakes, he says, could not be higher. "Some day, some way, I guarantee you, he'll use the arsenal."

"Iraq repeatedly made false declarations about the weapons that it had left in its possession after the Gulf War. When UNSCOM would then uncover evidence that gave the lie to those declarations, Iraq would simply amend the reports. For example, Iraq revised its nuclear declarations four times within just 14 months and it has submitted six different biological warfare declarations, each of which has been rejected by UNSCOM. In 1995, Hussein Kamal, Saddam's son-in-law, and chief organizer of Iraq's weapons-of-mass-destruction program, defected to Jordan. He revealed that Iraq was continuing to conceal weapons and missiles and the capacity to build many more. Then and only then did Iraq admit to developing numbers of weapons in significant quantities and weapon stocks. Previously, it had vehemently denied the very thing it just simply admitted once Saddam Hussein's son-in-law defected to Jordan and told the truth."

"Now listen to this: What did it admit? It admitted, among other things, an offensive biological warfare capability--notably 5,000 gallons of botulinum, which causes botulism; 2,000 gallons of anthrax; 25 biological-filled Scud warheads; and 157 aerial bombs. And might I say, UNSCOM inspectors believe that Iraq has actually greatly understated its production."

"We have to defend our future from these predators of the 21st century," he argued. "They will be all the more lethal if we allow them to build arsenals of nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons and the missiles to deliver them. We simply cannot allow that to happen. There is no more clear example of this threat than Saddam Hussein."

The Above statements taken from - http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/001/607rkunu.asp

(Below are my own questions which relate to the above)
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What year is the first paragraph referring to? Answer - 1998

What year was it when the above quotes were spoken? Answer - 1998

Who made these statements? Answer - Bill Clinton

Did the U.S. Congress vote to give the president the authority to bomb Iraq in 1998? Answer - No

Did the United Nations vote to give the United States approval to bomb Iraq in 1998? Answer - NO

Was Iraq considered to be a direct threat to the U.S. when these statements were made? Answer - Generally, NO

Was Iraq threatening neighboring countries when these statements were made? Answer - No

Were there any major protests taking place? Answer - No

Was the Hollywood left speaking out against attacking Iraq? Answer - No

Were there human shields headed for Iraq? Answer - No

What was Clintons job approval rating a month after he lobed 450 cruise missiles into Iraq? Answer - 69%

Has Saddam Hussein spent the last 5 years disarming or adding to his arsenal? Answer - He was Adding

Around this same time frame, who gave our guided missile technology to China and paid N. Korea a billion dollars not to build nukes.
Answer - Bill Clinton

Today (in the wake of 9/11) we have a different president.
G.W. Bush has made the exact same arguments with regard to Iraq that Clinton made but yet he is called a heartless, mean, warmonger, cowboy that is doing this for control of oil. If you are a pacifist and are against any & all war for any purpose, I don't agree with your ideology but I respect you for your convictions. If you are currently anti-Bush & anti-war and you voted for and stood by Clinton in 1998, you are an American hating, hypocritical CRETIN!
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Warlady
03-05-2003, 10:36 AM
LH, thanks so much for posting this. I've been searching for this article for 3 days. I just didn't know the title. I thought it was Then and Now.

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Considering the views these Democrats expressed four years ago, why the current reluctance to support President Bush?

Who knows?


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I know. Because the Clinton's have given their marching orders for all Dems to oppose anything Bush wants period. It's not about principles it's about politics. The hypocricy is amazing. What an insult to the intelligence of Americans. Did they think no one would notice?

Warlady
03-05-2003, 10:38 AM
PS. I'm going to post your post in the Hall of Fame Archives forum.

Lighthouse_MIDI
03-05-2003, 10:47 AM
Warlady said: "PS. I'm going to post your post in the Hall of Fame Archives forum."
Wow! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon16.gif I am honored. Thank You!

The_Elucidator
03-05-2003, 11:22 AM
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Warlady said:
LH, thanks so much for posting this. I've been searching for this article for 3 days. I just didn't know the title. I thought it was Then and Now.

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Considering the views these Democrats expressed four years ago, why the current reluctance to support President Bush?

Who knows?


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I know. Because the Clinton's have given their marching orders for all Dems to oppose anything Bush wants period. It's not about principles it's about politics. The hypocricy is amazing. What an insult to the intelligence of Americans. Did they think no one would notice?

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Rush was touching on this earlier - when was the last time the 'RATS said anything positive about anything, anything? If you gave these assholes $10M they would bitch and moan that it was not $10M + 1. The Beverly Clintons might be able to make people disappear but they can't make history disappear thanks to the fine people on this board... Thank You!!!

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ducktapehero
03-05-2003, 03:03 PM
I agree with Lighthouse about peace protesters. The protesters who were against Klinton's actions AS WELL as Bush's have my respect at the least. These people are not playing politics. I just think they are naive but mostly good hearted. I LOATHE the "new protesters" who didn't make a peep when Klinton was sending our troops everywhere and bombing everyone but now are dead against the war. Klinton just didn't have the balls to make the kind of decision that Bush has made. It drives these liberal bastards nuts that someone will stand up and say that enough is enough. I'd bet my last dollar that if Gore was president and he were doing the same thing the liberals would be waving the flag like mad and all of Hollywood would be volunteering for USO shows. But they refuse to support Bush even if it means tearing apart the country. I think we should split the US into 2 seperate countries and let the conservatives have 1 side and let the socialists(ooops I meant liberals) have the other. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/deadsheep.gif

Gone_with_the_Wind
03-05-2003, 04:34 PM
The fact that these people totally disregard 9/11 as a factor in considering how to handle WMDs, tells you exactly where their loyalties are; certainly not with the United States of America.

Lighthouse_MIDI
03-05-2003, 07:13 PM
When I made the initial post of this topic this morning. Something escaped my attention. I hear the left continually chastise Bush for his use of the phrase "Axis of Evil" as well as condescension concerning his Christian values. If you look at the first sentence of my post, you will see - "THE PRESIDENT mulls a strike against Iraq, which he calls an "outlaw nation" in league with an "unholy axis of terrorists".
Those are Bill Clinton's words. What strikes me about this is not only that Clinton used the word "axis" but included the word "unholy".
Can you imagine if G.W. would have referred to the Axis of Evil as the Unholy Axis of Evil ???? I could be overreacting here but I suspect that if Bush would have ever used the phrase "Unholy Axis of Evil", there would have been "big time" repercussions.