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EveningStar
01-10-2006, 07:32 PM
District Court Judge Edward Cashman is standing by the 60-day minimum sentence he imposed on a man convicted of having repeated sexual contact with a young girl...

The goal in handing down the sentence on Mark Hulett, 34, of Williston is the long-term protection of the public from a man Cashman considers to be a greater threat to re-offend if he does not receive immediate sex-offender treatment, the judge wrote.


Cashman said in court documents filed Tuesday that he would have required more jail time for Hulett if he could have received sex offender treatment in jail.

"Sentencing is not the end of a problem," he wrote. "It should be the start of a solution."


Hulett received a combined sentence of a 10-year minimum to a maximum of life in prison for his conviction on two charges of aggravated sexual assault and a lesser offense, with all but 60 days suspended.


"The court maximized the long-term public safety protection at the cost of what now appears as being 'soft' on child molesters," Cashman wrote. "At sentencing, the court viewed the defendant as a dangerous man, likely to engage in future crime unless he has proper and timely treatment."


The maximum sentence of life in prison "sought to ensure public safety should Mr. Hulett fail in or refuse treatment during the first 10-year term," Cashman wrote.

Cashman's decision has been condemned by Gov. James Douglas, who said he was appalled by it. Republican and Democratic lawmakers are calling for legislation with mandatory minimum sentences for sex crimes.


One state senator is urging his impeachment. "This guy has got to go," said state Sen. Wendy Wilton, R-Rutland. "People believe he has flipped his lid."

House Republicans on Tuesday introduced a resolution calling on Cashman to resign.
More (http://www.wcax.com/Global/story.asp?S=4343289)

Vt. Judge Criticized for Molester Sentence (http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/wire/sns-ap-judge-sexual-assault,1,834017.story)
A judge is under fire for sentencing a man to 60 days in prison for molesting a girl beginning when she was 6 years old.

Judge Edward Cashman said he did not require Mark Hulett, 34, to serve more time because Hulett could not receive sex offender treatment while in prison.
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[URL="http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=48219"]Judge gives child-rapist 60-day sentence (http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/01/10/judge.sexual.assault.ap/index.html?section=cnn_latest)
Claiming he no longer believes in punishment, a Vermont judge issued a 60-day sentence to a man who confessed to repeatedly raping a girl over a four-year period, beginning when she was 7 years old.

Judge Edward Cashman disagreed with prosecutors who thought Mark Hulett, 34, of Williston, Vt., deserved eight to 20 years in prison, reported WCAX-TV in Burlington, Vt.
http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2006/LAW/01/10/judge.sexual.assault.ap/story.cashman.ap.jpg

Warlady
01-10-2006, 07:50 PM
Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE!! of us Freecer's needs to email the Governor of Vermont to implore him to demand this judge step down or do whatever it takes to have him impeached. You can email the governor of Vermont at governor@vermont.com This is the MOST outrageous ruling I have seen in many years. Perhaps the most outrageous ruling in our country. This judge just opened the flood gates to all pedophiles and put a stop sign up to all victims who even contemplated coming forward.

Warlady
01-10-2006, 07:58 PM
BTW if you missed it THE GUY CONFESSED!!

Longhorn_Platinum
01-10-2006, 08:01 PM
:unsmile: O'Reilly & Hannity are already publicizing this.

MSGT
01-10-2006, 08:20 PM
What kind of appointment does this judge have? What are the gov. options.

MSGT
01-10-2006, 08:21 PM
Wasn't the Gov. on Hannity tonight in a clip denoucing the judge?

MSGT
01-10-2006, 08:24 PM
Wasn't the Gov. on Hannity tonight in a clip denoucing the judge?
Nevermind, that was about the National Guard being sent to the border.

Warlady
01-10-2006, 09:02 PM
Moo, Colmes said he disagreed with the ruling and then proceeded to make all kinds of excuses for him. It was truly disgusting.

Nothing I can think of is making me more upset than this story. If this judge continues in his job then we are truly screwed. The judge has even stated that he doesn't believe in punishment anymore. HE ADMITTED IT!! Everyone, please please email that governor. If this guy keeps his job then pedophiles everywhere have won a huge victory. As Bill Clinton would say, "do it for the children". Gag me with a pitchfork,,, but in this case it has never applied more.

Charity
01-10-2006, 09:35 PM
This is outrageous.

MSGT
01-10-2006, 10:09 PM
I thought this was posted somewhere

http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/showthread.php?t=30908

DesertFox
01-10-2006, 10:18 PM
Sucka done loss 'is mine.

Aethariel
01-10-2006, 10:20 PM
*Shrugs* Tough decision, but I think the judge's opinion here is reasonable enough.

AceKing
01-10-2006, 10:54 PM
*Shrugs* Tough decision, but I think the judge's opinion here is reasonable enough.
What the...???

Studies have shown that sexual predators have very little chance of being "rehabilitated". I don't know how you can safely return such people to society - er, at least not without some drastic surgury. Any volunteers? I've got a rusty old chainsaw in my garage.

DeclinetoState
01-10-2006, 11:05 PM
Location: Maryland, USA

*Shrugs* Tough decision, but I think the judge's opinion here is reasonable enough.

I'll stay away from Maryland if you're serious, sex fiend.

Wolfcounsel
01-10-2006, 11:12 PM
"*Shrugs* Tough decision, but I think the judge's opinion here is reasonable enough." --Aethariel

So if I were to kick the living crap out of you and make you a colostomy bag user for a year or more, and Judgy Wudgy the Clown sentenced me to two months in prison, you wouldn't take it hard, eh?

Warlady
01-10-2006, 11:33 PM
Guys, don't bite on Aethariel's bone. ( don't mean that in the literal sense since we all know he's dickless) We also know he's a liberal/socialist/commie sexual pedophile. What other explanation could there be for such a statement? It's obvious he hasn't procreated human children... especially female children. THANK GOD FOR SMALL FAVORS EH? Don't give him the time of day. Pretend he isn't here among the intellectuals. You guys are so far above his IQ he isn't worth making note of unless the FBI wishes to question us about him..Okay?

Wolfie, don't give that pervert the time of day. If his brain was gas it couldn't drive an ant around a BB on a motorcyle.

Wolfcounsel
01-10-2006, 11:50 PM
"Wolfie, don't give that pervert the time of day. If his brain was gas it couldn't drive an ant around a BB on a motorcyle." --Warlady

:hahaha:
That's gonna leave a mark!

DoctorDoom
01-11-2006, 12:40 AM
*Shrugs* Tough decision, but I think the judge's opinion here is reasonable enough.Classic trollish behavior: post a thoroughly outrageous statement, one that could not be seriously made by anyone with an IQ higher than his hat size and a trace of morality and decency, for no other purpose than to offend and piss off the regulars.

FC is a bastion of free speech, but that crap is beyond the limits of decency. Ergo, I am taking the liberty of giving the assmite a month in the penalty box. There is no reason why we have to bend over and grab ankles when atheistic/leftist bastards grossly abuse their relatively free rein here.

DoctorDoom
01-11-2006, 12:55 AM
Pretend he isn't here among the intellectuals.Until 11 Feb 2006, he isn't.

Conserv_Atticus
01-11-2006, 01:14 AM
*Shrugs* Tough decision, but I think the judge's opinion here is reasonable enough.



ah yes i totally agree... i mean the judge must have a politcal death wish right? Oh yah wait... he MUST have the ACLU behind him because he's defending the mans right to abuse children in such a horrible manner. Maybe the judge should also hear all of the cases that NAMBLA members go through so we can have a perfect society of old grown men raping little boys because they believe they "love each other." Lord forbid this sick demented asshole gets more than a slap on the wrist for what he did........ jack ass

Warlady
01-11-2006, 08:11 AM
Until 11 Feb 2006, he isn't.

:hahaha: You're more generous than I would have been. But I guess the time fits the crime.

omegatrump
01-11-2006, 08:27 AM
Moo, Colmes said he disagreed with the ruling and then proceeded to make all kinds of excuses for him. It was truly disgusting.

Nothing I can think of is making me more upset than this story. If this judge continues in his job then we are truly screwed. The judge has even stated that he doesn't believe in punishment anymore. HE ADMITTED IT!! Everyone, please please email that governor. If this guy keeps his job then pedophiles everywhere have won a huge victory. As Bill Clinton would say, "do it for the children". Gag me with a pitchfork,,, but in this case it has never applied more.

This so called Judge is quite likely himself a pervert / child molester. Leniency is his way of relaxing precedent against his own filthy existence.

The_RANDy_Corporation
01-11-2006, 09:50 AM
I assume Unk wants to give this judge a big raise and rip off the tax payers some more to finance his security.

Wyatt_Junker
01-11-2006, 10:30 AM
This so called Judge is quite likely himself a pervert / child molester. Leniency is his way of relaxing precedent against his own filthy existence.

Indeed. He is the creepy guy who likes to huff undies in the Baby Gap changing room. If its got a brown stain, its an extra 5 points.

Wolfcounsel
01-11-2006, 10:36 AM
"This judge has obviously got some very serious mental health issues. He not only needs to be removed immediately from the bench, he needs help." --Chris_texas

I would be happy to volunteer to give the creep some free wall-to-wall counseling continuously, until I got tired. Maybe that would help?

Kathy29
01-11-2006, 10:40 AM
He needs to be removed from the bench, immediately, like last week, like before he revealed himself by this decision. He should do the honorable thing and resign.

Not because he came up with this idiot decision.

Because he can no longer do his job which is to administer justice and justice is punishment. If he finds that his personal philosophy that punishment doesn't work, conflicts with his job requirements, he needs to go.

sunsettommy
01-11-2006, 12:33 PM
Well since this drooling idiot says he does not believe in punishment.I have an old cracked baseball bat that needs to be split!

:bdh:

Longhorn_Platinum
01-11-2006, 03:44 PM
The_RANDy_Corporation:
I assume Unk wants to give this judge a big raise and rip off the tax payers some more to finance his security.

:question:

DeclinetoState
01-11-2006, 04:06 PM
Schumer probably wants him on the Supreme Court instead of Alito.

Rink
01-11-2006, 04:08 PM
From what I'm understanding this 'Judge' (and I call him that loosely) is a FEDERAL Judge, and many here were all for giving Federal Judges pay raises and More protection even tho we have many Federal Judges that are as brainless as this cretin-for-a-judge.

Etaoin
01-11-2006, 04:09 PM
There was some discussion of this in the thread @ John Roberts suggesting more pay and more security. The Judge's home and office should be thoroughly searched for evidence of possible NAMBLA association.

The_Sonarman
01-11-2006, 04:20 PM
I was hoping to see the famous Troll Hook.

Melz
01-11-2006, 09:01 PM
From what I'm understanding this 'Judge' (and I call him that loosely) is a FEDERAL Judge, and many here were all for giving Federal Judges pay raises and More protection even tho we have many Federal Judges that are as brainless as this cretin-for-a-judge.

I am not sure that convo has a thing to do with this one. Just because this one asshole judge (or many other asshole judges) make horrible decisions like this does not mean there should be any lax in security at courtrooms or raises to those DOING THEIR JOBS. This idiot obviously is not doing his job! And people who get to vote on his presence need to make sure he is out of a job.

But Rink dear, I do not think that the discussion about whether judges get raises and courtrooms get protection carries over to outrage about an insane decision made by this shithead. I don't think ANYONE would agree with this decision and the two lines of thought are exclusive of the other.

Rink
01-11-2006, 09:25 PM
Federal judges getting raises and having more protection, this is a federal judge, and they want this moronic cretin to have a raise and More protection even tho he hands down rulings such as this?!?

There's more nutheaded judges than just this one, to give em raises and protect them more from their insane and stupid rulings is dumb, dumb, dumb!

Were judges been made to face the consequences of their stupid rulings I highly suspect they would be BETTER judges than this.

But to pander, protect and coddle Federal judges even more is insane right now.

Sorry but I'm all against any fed judge getting any pay raise or more protection than what they are getting.

Rink
01-11-2006, 09:27 PM
But Rink dear, I do not think that the discussion about whether judges get raises and courtrooms get protection carries over to outrage about an insane decision made by this shithead. I don't think ANYONE would agree with this decision and the two lines of thought are exclusive of the other.


Actually that pay raise suggestion and more protection has a LOT to do with insane rulings such as what this dipheaded judge just handed down.

They want these judges to be rewarded for their current stupidity, and be protected from their stupid rulings even more.

Venus de Smilo
01-12-2006, 02:33 AM
Cashman is a state district court judge, not a federal judge.

He should be taken out and horsewhipped.

The_RANDy_Corporation
01-12-2006, 08:53 AM
Hi Venus!!

Jim Sentry
01-12-2006, 08:56 AM
I've just sent my Email to the governor begging him to take action to get that molestor behind bars and try to remove the judge.

Wolfcounsel
01-12-2006, 08:59 AM
Perhaps the defendant and the judge recognize each other from "fun times" past?

Merlin
01-12-2006, 09:35 AM
Cashman is a stain on our justice system. We need to cleanse our court rooms of activist judges.

S-T
01-12-2006, 10:51 AM
Here is what I am inclined to think the governor should say:

"Hello, my fellow citizens. As your governor, I am committed to protecting the people of this state from monsters who prey on children. Unfortunately, a so-called 'judge' has decided to allow a demon in human form back onto the streets. Therefore, I am putting a target on this demon's chest. Anyone who kills him will get an immediate pardon from my office."

DeclinetoState
01-12-2006, 01:18 PM
http://www.wcax.com/Global/story.asp?S=4351004&nav=4QcS

MONTPELIER, Vt. -- Edward Cashman should be the darling of conservatives: The churchgoing Vietnam vet is a former prosecutor; his two sons have served in the military. As a judge he is best known for his hard-line stands: A decade ago he jailed for 41 days the parents of a prime suspect in a rape case because they refused to cooperate with prosecutors.


Conservatives, though, have turned Cashman into Public Enemy No. 1 for his sentence of a child molester, a sentence he said was designed to ensure the man got treatment but critics say is too soft.


The criticism multiplied by the thousands - whipped into a frenzy via Internet blogs - after Fox News' Bill O'Reilly told a national television audience Monday night, as video of Cashman rolled: "You may be looking at the worst judge in the USA."


Cashman, 62, big, burly, balding and bearded, is the epitome of the strait-laced military man who takes especially seriously his role as a judge. Soon after he was appointed to the bench in 1982 by Republican Gov. Richard Snelling, Cashman and his wife dropped out of their square dancing group because he feared it was unjudgelike.


"I can't do the same things everyone else does," he said in an interview several years ago, describing the life of a judge as monk-like.

I wonder what changed him.

:(

DeclinetoState
01-12-2006, 01:24 PM
The face of judicial disgrace
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By most accounts, Judge Edward Cashman was once a reasonable, fair-minded, common-sense Vermont jurist.

Today, he epitomizes the black-robed high priests who are so familiarly out of touch with the will of their constituents and the laws of the land they are sworn to uphold. You've heard of Cashman. He's the judge who sentenced a child rapist to 60 days in prison because "anger doesn't solve anything. It just corrodes your soul."


Maybe it's 23 years on the bench that corrodes one's soul. Maybe that's too long for any man. I don't know. But it has certainly been too long for Cashman, who has doubly victimized a young rape victim.

Mark Hulett, 34, was convicted of repeatedly raping a little girl over a period of four years beginning when she was 7.


Joseph Farah (http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=48307)

TxsRed218
01-12-2006, 08:39 PM
I say we castrate them both... over and done with. No more arguments... end of discussion... See how the judge feels about rehabilitation then!

Patriot Heart
01-13-2006, 06:49 AM
It's bizarre. It's almost like he has had a psychotic break or something.

Maggie_T
01-13-2006, 04:49 PM
I say we castrate them both... over and done with. No more arguments... end of discussion... See how the judge feels about rehabilitation then!

I agree, Txs. Castration would put a definite stop to all sexual predators. Best "rehabilitation" I can think of.

I heard it on the radio today that this mockery of a judge said that after so many years on the bench, he did not believe in punishment anymore.

I suppose he's entitled to his opinion. But then, hang your robe, mate. Because you don't deserve to wear it anymore. Hang it and go associate yourself with the likes of Cindy Shithead, Mikhail Moore, George Clooless, etc., and leave the job of being a judge to someone who takes it seriously.

This buffoon should be put in the clinker for 200 years. Then he can become his protégé's bitch, and they can live happily ever after.

Longhorn_Platinum
01-13-2006, 06:23 PM
:moo: Bill O'Reilly is starting to suggest a boycott of Vermont.

Rink
01-13-2006, 08:55 PM
That 'Judge' needs to be investigated.

I suspect this 'I dont believe in punishment anymore' judge may have some serious conflicts of interests here with this sort of ruling.

i.e this 'judge' may be more sympathetic towards the rapist for a reason.

Thats why I think this judge should be totally investigated, then run outta town on a rail!

UnkHiram
01-13-2006, 09:11 PM
I assume Unk wants to give this judge a big raise and rip off the tax payers some more to finance his security.

Randy

You know I first response is to tell you to go have sex with yourself. However, I am not gonna do that instead I am going to tell you pull your head out of your but. I NEVER said a word about condoning idiot Judges OR Idiot POSTERS either. Perhaps when you develop the ability to THINK, you will understand that. IN the meantime you might read the piece I wrote LAST WEEK in the Op-ed section about this IDIOT JUDGE.

Longhorn_Platinum
01-14-2006, 06:54 AM
Rink:
I suspect this 'I dont believe in punishment anymore' judge may have some serious conflicts of interests here with this sort of ruling.

:smirky: I seriously doubt that anybody voted for the lottery, unless they thought there was a chance that one day, they'd cash in on it. And I suspect that juries that award outrageous sums in damages are comprised of people who think that one day, they'll have a claim that can make them filthy rich. By the same token, a judge who lets a sex offender walk...

DesertFox
01-14-2006, 09:16 AM
Unk, pay no mind to RANDy. Nobody else does.

Beowulf
01-14-2006, 01:46 PM
:moo: Bill O'Reilly is starting to suggest a boycott of Vermont.

What? I move to Vermont for career reasons and now no one loves me anymore?

Seriously though, it's puzzling. Over his career, Judge Cashman has been known as a harsh sentencer until this case. Just can't figure the Dude out.

Maggie_T
01-15-2006, 09:20 AM
What? I move to Vermont for career reasons and now no one loves me anymore?

LOL. Beo, I sincerely hope our friends don't judge us by that sort of standard. If they do, I'm in deep trouble. I live in the Snowe/Collins state. http://fool.exler.ru/sm/str.gif

Seriously though, it's puzzling. Over his career, Judge Cashman has been known as a harsh sentencer until this case. Just can't figure the Dude out.

Maybe he's a born-again liberal. :question:

Beowulf
01-16-2006, 04:03 PM
LOL. Beo, I sincerely hope our friends don't judge us by that sort of standard.
Me neither! I'll lead the Conservative Underground in this state if I have too!

Maybe he's a born-again liberal. :question:
I guess we'll never know. It's funny, it's Democrats that want to impose madatory minimums and Republicans who think that's the wrong approach as it will take away a defendant's reason to plea bargain, force a trial in which the defendant may walk.

I'll stick with my original idea, make judges elected officials with terms and term limits.

Warlady
01-17-2006, 09:45 AM
Randy

You know I first response is to tell you to go have sex with yourself. However, I am not gonna do that instead I am going to tell you pull your head out of your but. I NEVER said a word about condoning idiot Judges OR Idiot POSTERS either. Perhaps when you develop the ability to THINK, you will understand that. IN the meantime you might read the piece I wrote LAST WEEK in the Op-ed section about this IDIOT JUDGE.

Unk, I do believe RANDy is hankering to be banned from FC. What do you think?

UnkHiram
01-17-2006, 04:15 PM
Warbabe

I suspect Randy's post was a cry for help. Serious and Long Term Mental Help.

Reverend Colin
01-17-2006, 05:02 PM
This is one of the reasons I’m a proponent of capital punishment for child molesters.

You don't even want to know the other reasons.



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Longhorn_Platinum
01-18-2006, 07:47 PM
:unsmile: Hannity & Colmes has just reported that in Massachusetts, another pervert, a 26-year-old former teacher, has just been allowed to walk scot free, after he raped a 15-year-old boy. Judge Suzanne Delvecchio has given the rapist probation. A google search on Delvecchio will quickly show that she is a darling of the Massachusetts [Homosexual] & Lesbian Bar Association.

DesertFox
01-18-2006, 08:07 PM
Won't be long, this kind of judge will dismiss pedophile cases upon defense motion.

DoctorDoom
01-18-2006, 08:11 PM
In Massholechusetts, nothing is surprising. This state would be drastically improved by nuking everything east of 128.

A google search on Delvecchio will quickly show that she is a darling of the Massachusetts [Homosexual] & Lesbian Bar Association.So is Margaret Marshall, the MA SJC's Chief "Justice", who inflicted queer marriage on the state.

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Can you say flagrant, shameless conflict of interest and judicial malpractice, boys and girls?

Warlady
01-18-2006, 08:40 PM
Doc, I would be afraid that the fallout would drift your way so please don't wish nukes on Mass. I don't want you to glow.

Warlady
01-18-2006, 08:44 PM
Cashman is a stain on our justice system. We need to cleanse our court rooms of activist judges.

I totally agree. Now how do we achieve this lofty goal? Does anyone have any idea how to get the ball rolling?

Melz
01-18-2006, 08:59 PM
It appears, from recent and even non-recent decisions in MA that the entire state is a farking stain on this country!! How in the world does such a concentrated bunch of assholes assimilate into one lonely yet powerful group of rulers over a state? And how is it possible that there are people left there

Do we send all folks who are rid of morals there? If we could, is there a plan of action to do so? These sort of people scare the shit out of me. The fact that there is no return justice on someone who lets rapists and killers roam the streets frightens me.

This is what they want! The liberals want these sort of people around, they want to hire them for their ad promotions. They want to fill the school boards with them and use their free speech rights against our children even!

I don't give a shit what they want though, and I refuse to let this country's future rest on decisions made by a bunch of abortion-promoting, yelling-whining-jobless-red-faced-pissed off assholes be the deciding vote over whether another worthless killer lives or joins the democrat party.

Go to hell.

DesertFox
01-18-2006, 09:05 PM
It's all about unions and conscienceless men of old money.

DoctorDoom
01-18-2006, 09:05 PM
Doc, I would be afraid that the fallout would drift your way so please don't wish nukes on Mass. I don't want you to glow.No problemo. I'm west of that hellhole. The prevailing winds will take all the hot caca over Cape Cod ... hmmmmm ... the Kennedy Hyannisport compound is there ... hmmmmm ... let's do it!

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It appears, from recent and even non-recent decisions in MA that the entire state is a farking stain on this country!!Tell me about it. The couple of dozen conservatives here are in missionary mode.

Melz
01-18-2006, 09:15 PM
I am sorry for saying "go to hell" about this person and all of the MA rulings which make me wonder about the entire state of folks, I would not damn anyone to hell. And they don't believe in a God who could make that decison.

The point is moot. I used to have more faith in people though, I am sorry that my overwhelming belief in the goodness of man has been torn away piece by piece.

Argh. This and other decisions handed down by people actually in power to do something constructive with the trash in this country really brings out the worst in me :(

Jim Sentry
01-19-2006, 06:04 AM
If this is the case I just heard on Fox, the judge ruled the minor was having CONSENSUAL sex with the accused.

This is disgusting. This should get national attention and everyone who supports this decision should get their face plastered all over the place. And, if any of these people are business owners or politcians people should know they should immediately boycott them or thier products.

TechnoPrincess
01-19-2006, 08:18 AM
Speaking as the mother of an 8 year old, with little 7 and 8 year old friends (my son, not me) - some of whom are girls....there is NO WAY IN HELL a 7/8 year old consents to sex. That is perverted and heinous! The judge should be removed from the bench and the convict should be released into GenPop with a loud announcement of what he did.

What is wrong with our judges that we let these people off?? We let off a female teacher because she is "too pretty to do jail time" and "it's a boy's right of passage". We let of another teacher w/o jail time who raped a 15 year old boy. At what point are we going to start protecting our children and stop protecting and making excuses for these perverts:soap:

Wolfcounsel
01-19-2006, 08:30 AM
"If this is the case I just heard on Fox, the judge ruled the minor was having CONSENSUAL sex with the accused." --Jim Sentry

I don't believe there is any state that allows consensual sex that young. I smell a pervert and nothing else, if he thinks a child should be allowed consensual sex. I also smell a child porno ring about to break.

DoctorDoom
01-19-2006, 08:47 AM
Remember when statutory rape was still a valid legal concept?

Warlady
01-19-2006, 10:18 AM
It still is Doc unless you draw a liberal judge. This is why I despise criminal defense attorneys. They're disgusting. His defense is that it was consensual??? I'm praying for justice for the little girl and that this so-called judge be impeached. If that man gets out in 2 months with his life in tact and he does this again then that judge should be prosecuted for aiding and abetting a confessed rapist.

aaron11
01-21-2006, 02:45 PM
What will be said when parents step in where "justice" fails?

If the Justice department doesn't want people to take matters into their own hands, I would suggest a serious re-direction in its current course.

For me, its not just hyperbole to say that if that was my kid, the judge would have been responsible for a justifiable homicide as well as a mis carriage of justice.

HomeschoolrsRUs
01-26-2006, 09:32 AM
BREITBART.COM - Vt. Judge Increases Sex Offender's Penalty (http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/01/26/D8FCF1MG1.html)

A judge who was widely vilified after he sentencing a man to 60 days in jail for sexually abusing a child said Thursday he would increase that sentence to at least three years.

DesertFox
01-26-2006, 01:01 PM
Gee. Three years. He abused the girl for over four years.

Baldy's lost his mind.

Jim Sentry
01-26-2006, 03:28 PM
Gosh, wow, an overwhelming 3 years. How will that poor man ever recover.

Maybe he'll get fragged while in jail

Warlady
01-26-2006, 05:34 PM
It's no less than 3 years and no more than 10. That's not enough. We had a case here in Texas this week where a guy was convicted of sexually assaulting a 9 year old girl. He got 4 99 year sentences which the judge ruled he would serve consecutively. That means he has to serve a minimum of 396 years. God bless Texas. I have a feeling that this sentence is the reason Cashman changed his ruling. I could be wrong but I don't think so. Our message in Texas:....don't diddle little girls unless you want to spend the rest of your life in a 9x5 cell saying howdy to a big fat black bubba who wants to bust your cherry.

nene
01-26-2006, 07:49 PM
Child molesters deserve death upon first conviction. If this pervert ever harms another child, the judge should be executed as well.

Beowulf
01-26-2006, 08:47 PM
BREITBART.COM - Vt. Judge Increases Sex Offender's Penalty (http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/01/26/D8FCF1MG1.html)

A judge who was widely vilified after he sentencing a man to 60 days in jail for sexually abusing a child said Thursday he would increase that sentence to at least three years.

Even our governor said that 3 years isn't near enough. I don't think the legislature is done with this issue yet.

Warlady
01-27-2006, 02:39 AM
They aren't Beo. Did you watch O'Reilly tonight? He's the main reason the judge changed his ruling. He's like a fly on dog shit over this ruling. He's not going to let up. And if this guy gets out in 3 years and offends again he's dog meat and so is the judge. O'Reilly gave the results of a nationwide Zogby poll on this issue. 92% of Americans disagree with Cashman's ruling. Only 3% agree with it. We had a leftist member recently who fell into that 3 percentile. Incredible. 92%. That means Republicans and Democrats alike agree that this is a horrific ruling. That judge MUST be impeached.

Lazarus
01-27-2006, 07:50 AM
The judge should be removed from office... He only extended the sentence due to public outrage... He has no concept of justice or his responsibility to the victim...

He's so very concerned with rehabilitation of the criminal - One wonders if he ordered the state to make provision for the girl's rehabilitation...

Warlady
01-27-2006, 01:02 PM
Are you joking? People like Cashman have no sympathy for the victims. He probably believes that 9 year old girl brought it on herself.

Warlady
01-27-2006, 01:11 PM
I have another question. I've never heard of a judge being able to change their sentence. Has this ever happened before?

Lazarus
01-27-2006, 01:16 PM
That's a good question... What amazes me is that he changed his sentence at all - He can claim he did it because the prison system changed its policy on psych rehab, but everyone knows he did it because of public outrage... That man needs to be returned to private practice... The state of Vermont is crazy if they keep him on the bench...

DoctorDoom
01-27-2006, 02:52 PM
That man needs to be returned to private practice...The Without-A-CLU is looking for idiots like Cashman.

Scared
01-29-2006, 10:05 AM
I haven’t posted on this site for quite some time, but the blatant misconceptions present in the vast majority of the posts in this thread must be addressed. Firstly, I have been a life-long Vermont resident, and I have certainly a better perspective on this case then those people living hundreds of miles away. I am also sure that none of you have actually read Judge Cashman’s reasons for this seemingly inadequate sentence. At the hearing he detailed his extensive reasons for declaring a minimum of 60 days in prison for the sex offender. He observed that he has been a judge for over 25 years, and was originally a strictly punitive judge. Yet, over the years, he has realized the sad fact that many of his sentences have little effect at addressing the problem of rehabilitation. (Cashman is certainly not “anti-punishment”. As he stated, only a few cases need this alternative consideration, and punishment in order to change the criminal is still the backbone of the judicial system.) In this particular case the prisons would not have given the sex offender any treatment, despite the expert testimony from doctors that treatment was necessary to prevent any future attacks. Cashman could not accept an unnecessary punishment that would have no effect in treating the offender, and thus was forced to create his own ruling.
Unlike a sentence that would just appease the community, Cashman demanded actual treatment. Thus he created the 60-day minimum to a 10 years maximum sentence. The Department of Corrections would be able to have the offender on parole, treatment or in prison for up to 10 years, but the offender had to have treatment to prevent him from victimizing further innocents. Once the Department of Corrections allowed the offender treatment in prison, Cashman altered his sentence at an appeal, mandating a 3-year minimum for the offender’s first charge. The judge realized that “punishment is not enough” and demanded both treatment and punishment to address the horrendous crime.
Cashman displayed foresight in his sentence, and despite gross misrepresentations in the media, (including his disavowal of punishment which never happened), his sentence is the best chance for the offender to be reformed. The Department of Corrections amended its policy and allowed the offender treatment in jail, the victory Cashman hoped for. This ruling is not the miscarriage of justice that the media has made it seem, it is a sentence truly designed to address the problems of both rehabilitation and punishment, and Cashman was courageous to take a stand on the ineffective Corrections system. Just reading the judge’s ruling reveals his frustration with an inadequate judicial system, and he managed to create a sentence that is far more effective, a sentence that has the support of much of Vermont. Get the facts straight before demanding a judge’s removal.

Jim Sentry
01-29-2006, 10:31 AM
OK Scared are you just trying to get a rise out of everybody.

If Cashman has problems with the way pedophiles are treated he can address those publicly and by campaigning for changes in the Law.

You do not unleash a self admitted pedophile upon an innocent public just because you want to make a point!

Scared
01-29-2006, 10:39 AM
You do not unleash a self admitted pedophile upon an innocent public just because you want to make a point!

So you are proposing that all sex offenders should be locked in prison for their entire lives? If so, then taxes would skyrocket in order to maintain the prisons. If you think that they should be allowed to have a life outside prison, then they will be "unleashed upon an innocent public" at some point once their sentence is over. The question is whether the offenders are going to reoffend or whether they are rehabilitated when they are reintroduced into society. Cashman was attempting to make sure that the offenders were rehabilitated when they left prison.

Wolfcounsel
01-29-2006, 10:45 AM
Scared, you might think lots of people give a rat's ass about the rehabilitation of a pervert. The pervert, and the pervert cheerleader on the bench need to be removed permanently from society. Can you guess how to make it "permanently removed"?

Jim Sentry
01-29-2006, 10:50 AM
Being locked up in prison for the rest of their lives is much too evil a punishment for a pedophile.

We should be much more compassionate and as soon as they are convicted EXECUTE THEM.

UnkHiram
01-29-2006, 11:32 AM
In this particular case the prisons would not have given the sex offender any treatment, despite the expert testimony from doctors that treatment was necessary to prevent any future attacks. Cashman could not accept an unnecessary punishment that would have no effect in treating the offender, and thus was forced to create his own ruling.

Sending this creep to Jail for the rest of his unnatural life would have one real result. It would protect the children from his future attacks. How about that for a reason to not coddle this pervert.

DoctorDoom
01-29-2006, 12:16 PM
Aw, jeez, another liberal puke is here to strew his troll turds.

Buy a clue, you witless twit: this son of a bitch confessed to raping a child repeatedly for four years, and the braindead asswipe posing as a judge sentenced him to 60 days because he couldn't get "treatment" in prison, and he no longer believes in punishment. And you're defending that? How's the air where your head is, fool?

The only "treatment" the savage needs is castration with a dull knife, after which he should be made to run naked down the streets of Montpelier with his balls in his hands until he bleeds to death.

As for Cashman, where do I send my ten bucks for a license so that I can play judge in Vermont?

Wyatt_Junker
01-29-2006, 04:26 PM
I haven’t posted on this site for quite some time, but the blatant misconceptions present in the vast majority of the posts in this thread must be addressed. Firstly, I have been a life-long Vermont resident...

Sorry, but I stopped reading here.

Hasn't Vermont been zoned into one single demographic of hopelessly tenured professors, state workers and socialist affiliates yet? You know, the ones who wear bright yellow pastel sweaters and argyle socks(men)? And the other ones who wear long dark pleather overcoats with matching black pleather pants, and fedoras(lezbos)?

HomeschoolrsRUs
01-29-2006, 08:07 PM
So you are proposing that all sex offenders should be locked in prison for their entire lives?

Yes.

If so, then taxes would skyrocket in order to maintain the prisons.

Make them work to provide their upkeep. Work is NOT cruel and unusual punishment. There are any number of activities which could be handled by a prison work detail, which would remove some of the burden (if not all) from the tax payer. Also, they could farm for their own food, learn to sew their prison uniforms, as well as other maintenance/housekeeping tasks eliminating the costs of "outside" resources.

If you think that they should be allowed to have a life outside prison,

I do not think that, and they should not be allowed to have a life outside of prison, ever.

then they will be "unleashed upon an innocent public" at some point once their sentence is over.

Solved by the above.

The question is whether the offenders are going to reoffend ...

They will -- the recidivism risk is too great. Even ONE child becoming prey for these monsters is too high a price to pay.

or whether they are rehabilitated when they are reintroduced into society.

No they cannot be satisfactorily rehabilitated, and since there is NO guarantee for such, they should NOT be reintroduced into society.

Cashman was attempting to make sure that the offenders were rehabilitated when they left prison.

Fine. If ANY of the offenders re-offend after their "so-called" rehabilitation, Judge Cashman should be held liable, responsible, and accountable, and should immediately surrender all rights and privileges and be incarcerated for the rest of his natural life.

Cashman was wrong, it's as simple as that. The rehabilitation of that piece of garbage is NOT the most important factor. Providing for the continued safety of the community FROM a vile sexual predator IS, as well as PUNISHING the CRIMINAL for criminal acts committed.

Warlady
01-29-2006, 08:59 PM
Louisiana has a great farm program for their pea farms. Prisoners work to grow their own food, they do numerous jobs for the state like create license plates etc. Prisons can be self contained. There is no reason they shouldn't.