Courage under fire (Pat Robertson Kool-aid drinker speaks up)

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Yeah. Right.


Stan Goodenough
Jerusalem Newsletter
January 11, 2006

"Instructive" is a good word for describing the reaction to Christian Broadcasting Network (CBN) President Pat Robertson’s remarks about the stroke that incapacitated Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon last week.

Certainly it took immense courage of conviction for an influential man like the former candidate for the American presidency to say something he knew would enrage many people and put ammunition into the hands of his avowed enemies, and to nonetheless say it because he believes it is true, and because his conscience directs him to do so.
Guffaw!

Mr. Goodenough, if that's really your name, you're a hoot. Pat Robertson is a freaking kook. But don't let me interrupt you.

More (http://www.jnewswire.com/library/article.php?articleid=942)

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Mr. Goodenough has his nose up Robertsons sphincter. I suppose the smell of caviar farts is pleasing to him.

Pat Robertson has no case that God or the Bible has anything to do with Sharon's illness. The man is old...old people have complications. What are we to say when Pat's health finally goes South? Should we suggest that Pat is sinning in his spare time when not in front of a camera?

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WOW! That's the first person I've seen/heard defend what Robertson said. Luckily the Israeli people and government realize that not all Christians are psychotic...

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/01/11/israel.robertson.ap/index.html?section=cnn_latest

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Is Goodenough THEBIRD?

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If a FCer had said 'Hugo needs to be Taken out' it would get very little criticism here as it appears along as its a Minister/Priest its all the sudden not OK to suggest a Al-quaida linked dictator be taken out. Fricken Double standard.

Pats last comment about sharon was crazy but the one about Hugo Chavez well, I've seen most of us regular FCers say something like that once or twice. Or is the death penalty not apply to Dictators like chavez who help funded a group which is repsonsible for 911.

Are we not supposed to bring those who financed the Al-quaida to justice ? Are we not to believe in the death penalty for those responsible for 3,000 deaths ?

Hugo Chavez is no fricken angel.

[Elgalad]

WOW! That's the first person I've seen/heard defend what Robertson said.
I actually got into a heated debate with my father about Robertson's words. As Republican Legion shows below, not all Conservatives are upset with Robertson's recent outspokenness regarding international events. While I can understand the affirmation one might receive by having a staunch 'defender of the faith' take such a hardline stance towards Chavez or Sharon, it is not a stance that I believe helps either our credibility or our cause. For that reason, Pat Robertson is more of a hindrance than a help when he decides to opine publicly on foreign policy.

If a FCer had said 'Hugo needs to be Taken out' it would get very little criticism here as it appears along as its a Minister/Priest its all the sudden not OK to suggest a Al-quaida linked dictator be taken out. Fricken Double standard.

The salient difference here, is that hyperbole by a FreeConservatives member, even if blatantly offensive, is not going to be held up as an example of 'mainstream Christian Conservative thinking'. In the absolute worst case scenario, anything we say here could only end up reflecting poorly on ourselves and on this board. We simply do not have the level of media attention that Pat Robertson does.

Pat Robertson, through his television program and other activities, actively portrays himself in just such a manner however ~ as a voice reflecting the opinions of the average Christian Conservative. Whether that is or true or not (and I strongly argue that it is NOT), the main stream media has accepted it as a fact, since it provides them with ever increasing ammunition they can use to mischaracterize Christians in America and thus further undermine Christianity's reputation worldwide.

Noone is saying here that Pat Robertson does not have the right to speak his mind on whatever policies he wishes. But since he has opted to become a very visible 'celebrity' his words carry a great deal of weight and everything that he says Will be assumed to have come from all of us as well. And That is where many of us have a problem.

If you agree with his desires to 'take out' the legitimate head of a sovereign foreign state through clandestine and Illegal methods, then yes, he is singing your song. If you believe as he apparently does that God has decided in His infinite wisdom that the best way to set an example to the world on how not to treat Jews is to give an old man a stroke, after looking the other way for thousands of years of abuse, persecution, and murder towards His chosen people, then very well, Robertson Does represent you.

But for the rest of us who disagree with Robertson's political .. notions .. we Must make a public outcry just to be heard. To not do so would be to support by default, the accepted fallacy that he represents us as well.

Or is the death penalty not apply to Dictators like chavez who help funded a group which is repsonsible for 911.

Are we not supposed to bring those who financed the Al-quaida to justice ? Are we not to believe in the death penalty for those responsible for 3,000 deaths ?

When the case can be reasonably made that Hugo Chavez was linked to the attack on the WTC buildings, the Pentagon, or the terrorists who hijacked flight 93, then I will be right beside you demanding that the President bring Hugo Chavez to Justice. But Justice is not served at the receiving end of an assassin's weapon. You might call That any number of things; Vengeance, retribution, payback, etc.. But it is not Justice. If it requires military action ala Nicaragua, so be it. I would support that ~ but I will Never support assassination.

If there is evidence that Chavez is guilty of the crimes you suggest, then he should have the right to defend himself in a court of law. That is how we deal with criminals. That is how we are dealing with Saddam Hussein. That is how we will deal with Osama bin Laden if he ever turns up alive. That is how we differ from those who we are fighting in this War on Terror. And that is why we will win. Because That is how Justice is served.

Hugo Chavez is no fricken angel.
No, he isn't. That is correct; Hugo Chavez is a murderous Thug.

But neither is Pat Robertson an enlightened statesman. He is an egocentric windbag with delusions of relevance.



-Elgalad

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Interesting.

http://www.comcast.net/news/international/index.jsp?cat=INTERNATIONAL&fn=/2006/01/11/301847.html