Bush: Illegals like Prohibition; Amnesty "means" automatic citizenship

[Dowple]

It also makes sense to take pressure off the border by giving people a legal means on a temporary basis to come here, so they don't have to sneak across. Now, some of you all may be old enough to remember the days of Prohibition. I'm not. (Laughter.) But remember, we illegalized whisky, and guess what? People found all kinds of ways to make it, and to run it. NASCAR got started -- positive thing that came out of all that. (Laughter.)
What you're having here is you've created a -- you've made it illegal for People to come here to work that other Americans won't do, and guess has happened? A horrible industry has grown up. You've got folks right here in Kentucky who are hiring people to do jobs Americans won't do, and you say, show me your papers, and they've been forged, and the employer doesn't know about it.
Part of making sure that immigration policy works is you hold employers to account, but how can you hold them to account when they're being presented with forged documents? A whole forgery industry has grown up around this. We've got good honorable people coming to work to put food on their tables, being stuffed in the back of 18-wheelers. We've got people being smuggled by what they called coyotes into the deserts and asked to walk across. And they're dying because they're trying to get to work, and they're being mistreated. In other words, this underground industry is creating a human condition that any American wouldn't accept. I mean, it's just not right.
And so I think, yes, absolutely enforce the border, but at the same time have a recognition that people are going to come here to work if an American won't do the job, so let's make it legal on a temporary basis. And I mean a temporary workers' card that's tamper proof, that gives the employer satisfaction they're not breaking the law, that says you can come here for a period of time and you go home.
Now, the big issue on this -- besides enforcing the border -- is amnesty. I am against amnesty. And the reason I am against amnesty -- amnesty means automatic citizenship -- I'm against automatic citizenship, in all due respect to others in our country that believe it's a good thing, and I'm against it because all that, in my judgment, would do would cause another 8 million to 11 million people to come here to try to be able to get the same -- hopefully put the pressure on the system to create automatic citizenship. So I think the best solution is the one I just described. And it's an issue that's going to be important for the American people to conduct in a way that honors our values.
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So, there you've got it. The problem with illegal immigration is we "illegalized" it, just like prohibition. If we make illegal immigration legal, then, voila, the problem is solved! And now we know CLEARLY what Bush's definition of "amnesty" is: automatic citizenship. That's not a legal or English language definition used by anybody else, but, hey, what do WE matter, we're not mexicans. Therefore, I suppose, anything short of granting illegals "automatic citizenship" is OK with Bush. Get ready. He's planning on "legalizing" ALL OF MEXICO.

[Wolfcounsel]

"We've got good honorable people coming to work to put food on their tables, being stuffed in the back of 18-wheelers. We've got people being smuggled by what they called coyotes into the deserts and asked to walk across. And they're dying because they're trying to get to work, and they're being mistreated. In other words, this underground industry is creating a human condition that any American wouldn't accept. I mean, it's just not right." --President Bush

Eliminate welfare. Get the American freeloaders off their asses to do the jobs these trespassers are doing, screw the illegal work program. Enforce legal immigration. Stop kissing Vicente's butt, and protect this country from trespassers and other interlopers! And screw the prohibition comparison also!

[omegatrump]

This gives you a picture window look at the mentality with which this man is dealing with the affairs of this world. How one can twist the invasion of America into such a distorted, upside down concept is unbelievable.

I can really believe that Bush did say of the US Constitution: "it's just a - - - damned piece of paper".

[routerider]

Bush is not the brightest bulb on the tree...his tenure is soon over.

[Rink]

"We've got good honorable people coming to work to put food on their tables, being stuffed in the back of 18-wheelers. We've got people being smuggled by what they called coyotes into the deserts and asked to walk across. And they're dying because they're trying to get to work, and they're being mistreated. In other words, this underground industry is creating a human condition that any American wouldn't accept. I mean, it's just not right." --President Bush

Eliminate welfare. Get the American freeloaders off their asses to do the jobs these trespassers are doing, screw the illegal work program. Enforce legal immigration. Stop kissing Vicente's butt, and protect this country from trespassers and other interlopers! And screw the prohibition comparison also!

To add to Wolfies comments, not only eliminate welfare and social aid programs but also do away with the minimum wage laws permanently, let the market decide who gets paid what instead of dictations by state decree which just drives up the cost of living which also drives up the wages in itself.

[omegatrump]

I second the motion.

[Rink]

Hey Dont just blame Bush for this, blame the Party he's in, as it seems BOTH parties are one and the same when it comes to the issue of Illegals.

Any who stray from the reservation (like Tancredo) gets barred, censored, ostracised and uninvited from the party functions.

Money talks, people walk and big businesses want cheap labor, so they get it.

I say eliminate the problem at the base, no amnesty EVER, remove Minimum wage laws for good and remove welfare and other social aid programs also.

Only thing I would ask is... keep the job training aspect for people who need to learn a skill in order to get a job there dont eliminate that, but offer something like that to Approved documented American citizens ONLY and stick with it.

NO Drivers licences for Illegals.
Get a chunk of that bilions of dollars to pay to build up detention centers for illegals (they dont have to have posh accomodations, tents outside in an enclosed area willdo)
Make it strict that anyone caught in America that is illegal be deported ASAP.

[omegatrump]

Hey Dont just blame Bush for this, blame the Party he's in, as it seems BOTH parties are one and the same when it comes to the issue of Illegals.

Any who stray from the reservation (like Tancredo) gets barred, censored, ostracised and uninvited from the party functions.

Money talks, people walk and big businesses want cheap labor, so they get it.

I say eliminate the problem at the base, no amnesty EVER, remove Minimum wage laws for good and remove welfare and other social aid programs also.

Only thing I would ask is... keep the job training aspect for people who need to learn a skill in order to get a job there don't eliminate that, but offer something like that to Approved documented American citizens ONLY and stick with it.

NO Drivers licences for Illegals.
Get a chunk of that bilions of dollars to pay to build up detention centers for illegals (they dont have to have posh accomodations, tents outside in an enclosed area willdo)
Make it strict that anyone caught in America that is illegal be deported ASAP.

You hit on the root of the problem Rink, people want cheap labor, and both parties are culpable is for sure.

The problem now is that America is too Dependant on them. The bigger problem is that it appears Mr Bush is behind the idea that our sovereignty is akin to a load of moonshine. We know he would like to dissolve the border with Mexico by the trial balloon suggestions his new Attorney General has floated.

[Dowple]

And here is a little heresy for you. I think we would have been better off with a Democrat than Bush. A Democrat NEVER would have DARED to try to merge our sovereignty in with Mexico's, like Bush. Had he even muttered the idea, the Republicans in Congress would have crucified him. But since it was Bush selling the country down the river, most of them don't utter a peep. Why are we fighting a "war on terror" while letting an army of murderous, criminal invaders walk right across the border? Because the president LIKES it this way.

[Rink]

And here is a little heresy for you. I think we would have been better off with a Democrat than Bush. A Democrat NEVER would have DARED to try to merge our sovereignty in with Mexico's, like Bush. Had he even muttered the idea, the Republicans in Congress would have crucified him. But since it was Bush selling the country down the river, most of them don't utter a peep. Why are we fighting a "war on terror" while letting an army of murderous, criminal invaders walk right across the border? Because the president LIKES it this way.

Exactly!!!

Untill the President SHOWS he's TRULY Serious about American safety and security (by closing the borders and putting a stop to this pandering to illegals)... which literally leaves us intensely vulnerable to terrorist attacks because there are MANY NON-Hispanics coming across the border called OTM (other Than Mexican) why should Jihadis hell-bent on killing Americans bother coming to America by airplane when they can just traipse across the Mexican/US border (after taking a course in Spanish to sound like hispanics, (since they look a LOT like them).

I'm amazed we havent HAD a terrorist incident from a muzzie terrorist who gained access to America via the pourous Mexican/US border with the aid, and help of these feel-good panderers to illegals all the way through.

Untill this is addressed I wont believe one dumb-cluck thing this Administration or any other for that fact when they start talking about how they are working vigilantly to ensure American safety and security with their snooping, invasiveness towards Americans and more.

WE loose our rights and protections but illegals dont, and a very very serious security problem STILL exists at America's Southern borders with mexico (Esp with the MS-13 gang in league with Al-Quaida and targeting U.S. Border Patrol Agents trying to do their job while severely underfunded and understaffed, [prolly on purpose so the illegals can still flow unimpeded into America])

Sowwy am rantin agin
:soap:

[Uncle Sam]

Bush is one of the most disgusting traitors in conservative history and I would vote to impeach his sorry ass in a hot second.

Count me in on that vote to impeach Bush.. I'm a patriot before I'm a republican.. I don't care what political party Bush belongs to.. His actions or lack thereof are destroying our country. He needs to take quick action to secure the Mexican border and kick the F***ing Mexicans out of our country or he needs to be
booted out of office and get someone in who will.

[DesertFox]

You mean the illegal Mexicans, I'm sure? :question:

[aaron11]

There is no easy solution to the problem. The Mexican people that come here looking for work and a better life are WELCOME, IMO. In fact, I would trade the lot of them for the vast majority of American Liberals that already live here...

I think what Bush is doing is simply looking for some clarity. We cannot just build a fence and pretend the problem solved. Both Americans and Mexicans depend on the circumstances surrounding our southern border for both economic and survival reasons.

I don't like the fact that our southern border is wide open, but, I don't like the notion that we should demonize decent folks who are just trying to get ahead either.

We need a solution that is everyones best interest. And that includes Mexicans. You wouldn't keep me out of the greatest Country on earth either. Yes, I would do it legally, however, If it was necessary to do it illegally in order to feed my family until the legal process (One that it notoriously slow) was complete, I wouldn't hesitate.

[Beowulf]

So many good ideas in this thread. Eliminating welfare and freebies will put away the reasons illegals come here in the first place.
It's also very true that money talks, which is why our elected officials don't really represent us at all. We're the little guy so why do we matter? George Bush was a business man so you KNOW where his interests will lie!

We need to take back our country! Unfortunately, people can't get out of the mindset of "consider the alternative" or "a vote for a 3rd party is a vote for a Democrat" menalities. To keep re-electing GOP's who do not represent us is NOT reforming the party. It may well take allowing Dimwitcrats to office but at least then maybe the GOP will get the message and get back to it's roots.

[Uncle Sam]

You mean the illegal Mexicans, I'm sure? :question: oops, yes I do.. my bad. sometimes I get carried away when I type. Fingers get ahead of the mind..

Legal Immigration is a needed mechanism for our countries growth. I am all for a legal and controlled immigration policy, one which is enforced.