Stock market investing | Replacement windows | Credit Counseling | Personal Loans | Bad Credit Mortgages
Get ready for Columbine II. [Archive] - FreeConservatives

PDA

View Full Version : Get ready for Columbine II.


S-T
01-13-2006, 04:52 AM
http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/images/icons/cussing.gif In a disciplinary move that stunned parents and reduced teenage boys to tears, leaders at Argo Community High School on Monday suspended three coaches and expelled three varsity wrestlers for hazing on a team bus.

**SNIP**

The punishments were doled out by unanimous vote of the School District 217 board. They were prompted by what some parents characterized as a harmless prank, but what others saw as sexual abuse.

On the ride home from a romping victory over Bremen High School on Dec. 1, upperclassmen wrestlers allegedly "teabagged" five to seven members of the freshmen team.

The older boys pulled the freshmen, one by one, to the back of the bus. While two boys held down a victim, the third shoved his testicles in the victim's face.

http://www.dailysouthtown.com/southtown/dsindex/10-ds1.htm

A harmless prank? A HARMLESS PRANK??

http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/images/icons/cussing.gif

Any so-called "parent" who defends sexual abuse as a "harmless prank" should have his children permanently taken from him by Child Protective Services. I guarantee you that if these so-called "parents" were assaulted on the street and "teabagged", they would not think it was a "harmless prank". The thuglings belong in jail, and if this was done to a girl the little thuglings would be in jail, not just expelled.

I am absolutely furious.

When are we going to learn the lessons of Columbine? When are people going to take this stuff seriously? I would not be at all surprised if one of the freshmen boys took a gun into school and killed the little monsters who assaulted him.

I :claps: the School Board for doing the right thing.

See previous posts on bullying:

http://scott.sstibbs.com/blog/2004_11_09_columbine.html

http://scott.sstibbs.com/blog/2005_08_05_self-defense.html

Melz
01-13-2006, 06:06 AM
I am not sure (based on the article) the reasoning in removing the coaches, but it does sound like some of the parents are defending the actions of their pervert sons. Good to know justice was served to the sickos.

S-T
01-13-2006, 06:43 AM
Actually, justice was not served.

These thuglings need to be in jail.

dPrasse
01-13-2006, 07:16 AM
The coaches were canned because there is no way , on a bus , that any living person could not tell what was going on ...

Four of the five wrestling coaches were on the bus at the time and did not notice any disturbance ....

These coaches ARE THE ADULTS in charge !!

I agree , the perps should be charged ... they got caught this time , but how many perverted acts have they comitted and not been caught ?

DoctorDoom
01-13-2006, 09:07 AM
A good, hard chomp on the family jewels would take the fun out of it muy pronto.

Lazarus
01-13-2006, 09:11 AM
Just another reason to shut down the public school system... It has become an institution that no longer serves its intended purpose... It is only now maintained as a sacred cow for the left...

DesertFox
01-13-2006, 09:15 AM
It is only now maintained as a sacred cow for the left...

No, it ain't. Let's try to keep some perspective in our comments. For every case like this, there are 10,000 where things went as they were supposed to. No system was ever perfect.

I'm not defending public education as such, merely saying that we need to say things as they are.

DeclinetoState
01-13-2006, 11:54 AM
The coaches were canned because there is no way , on a bus , that any living person could not tell what was going on ...



These coaches ARE THE ADULTS in charge !!

I agree , the perps should be charged ... they got caught this time , but how many perverted acts have they comitted and not been caught ?

Sad to say, but some wrestling coaches seem to not have an elevator that goes to the top floor, if you know what I mean.

ConspiracyBuff
01-13-2006, 01:09 PM
Agreed DTS- Wrestling and Football coaches (especially if they teach as well) alike seem to be able to bend the rules a bit in the classroom and with their players. Now im not saying this is always bad, i had a football coach for a history teacher and instead of detentions we'd have to do push ups in front of the class, id take that any day. If kids didnt want to then they got a detention, the number would double evrytime a kid misbehaved, it served 2 purposes, wasting class time and seperating the strong from the weak. I also had a wrestling coach for a teacher, the only teacher that would swear around us, act perverted and actually make fun of kids to us "insiders", be physical toward us, allow for dirty moves to be done on kids he wanted to see whine. Its cool if ur in the circle of trust, after all, hes just one of the guys like the cool dad that everyone wishes their dad acted like. Sometimes as in this case it goes too far, and testicles get dropped on people faces on the bus, no school board would believe the coach was unaware that dudes were dropping their drawers and landing their junk in some freshmans trembling face. This is on the verge of Faggish, no wait, it is Homoish.

Rhino
01-14-2006, 01:03 PM
No girl wrestlers?

aaron11
01-14-2006, 02:08 PM
Disgusting, when I was in school and on the Football team "hazing" consisted of throwing the noobies into the creek next to the practice field. Many of which (including myself) simply jumped in rather then being tossed. The point was having to practice in wet gear, rather uncomfortable but basically harmless.

Beowulf
01-14-2006, 02:19 PM
Disgusting, when I was in school and on the Football team "hazing" consisted of throwing the noobies into the creek next to the practice field. Many of which (including myself) simply jumped in rather then being tossed. The point was having to practice in wet gear, rather uncomfortable but basically harmless.

I remember days like that too, Aaron. "Initiation" as it was called ranged from the Freshman being made to sing on the bus to maybe being forced to wear a cheerleader's uniform on the busride from a game but never anything sexual or violent.
Hazing is a crime and should be treated as such.

HomeschoolrsRUs
01-14-2006, 03:40 PM
Way'll, as a lady of the suthe'n territories, I engaged in only the most genteel of activities, nothing so course and crude as wrastlin' or football, :curt: . However, in high school I was tapped for membership in a service club (Civinettes). Our "initiation" consisted of being roused at around 3am (parents were soliticited for assistance in keeping the secret and giving admittance to the initiate's house to get them). I was costumed in the guise of a "housewife" -- with granny-pajamas, curlers in my hair, cold cream on my face, fuzzy slippers on my feet, and a housecoat complete with rolling pin in one pocket and a toy frying pan in the other. We were transported to the local all-night grocery store and given a list of "items" to purchase, then taken to breakfast at a local eatery. Afterward we were assembled on the front lawn of the school (prior to the beginning of the school day, and in front of the student body) to sing a song ....

I can bring home the bacon,
Fry it up in a pan,
And never, ever let you forget you're a man,
'Cause I'm a woman, W-O-M-A-N.

Hardly any injury at all, save my pride, dignity, and good name, LOL.

bannerman
01-14-2006, 03:41 PM
I remember days like that too, Aaron. "Initiation" as it was called ranged from the Freshman being made to sing on the bus to maybe being forced to wear a cheerleader's uniform on the busride from a game but never anything sexual or violent.
Hazing is a crime and should be treated as such.


isnt the GHETTO CULTURAL MTV-ization of mid America Just GREAT

Riverboat
01-14-2006, 07:13 PM
This IS disgraceful and all, but what does this have to do with Columbine?

ldb83
01-14-2006, 07:33 PM
I believe the idea is that any poor kid to have testicles shoved in his face might go nuts and decide to come to school with guns the next day.

The act is a harmless prank if it's between friends with senses of humor who exchange stupid degrading things like that with each other. Using force to do it to smaller and weaker kids is quite a different story. I don't support it on any level, but the context of it can change its implications.

I don't find this story funny, but I did get a kick out of the typical mob mentality of many who responded here. Jail the kids? Have them ripped from their homes because their parents defended them? Come on people. They were expelled from school. The act was awful but please get a grip.

ldb83
01-14-2006, 07:37 PM
Oh yeah... this too,

Just another reason to shut down the public school system

Yeah, because things like this NEVER happen in all-boy private schools. Wow people. WOW!!!

HomeschoolrsRUs
01-14-2006, 07:39 PM
He said ANOTHER reason, not the only one, :smirky: .

Riverboat
01-14-2006, 07:42 PM
I believe the idea is that any poor kid to have testicles shoved in his face might go nuts and decide to come to school with guns the next day. . . Come on people. They were expelled from school. The act was awful but please get a grip. And therein lies the conundrum. If people are so worried about the Columbine Effect (bullied kid = kid shooting up the school), then the same people will be inclined to throw the bullies in jail. But, as you said, they should get a grip. The media, I believe, shoulder a good deal of responsibility for spreading hysteria. Not every kid that gets bullied becomes a sociopath. The parents definitely need to intervene on the kid's behalf, though. If nothing else, they need to go in the kid's bedroom now and then and ask why he's got several lengths of pipe and gunpowder on his dresser.

Eagle1
01-14-2006, 07:50 PM
i support initiations and pranks, i had them done to me and later on took part in them. but anything like teabagging or other homosexual activities is disgusting and should be severely punished. if anything like that happened on my high school sports teams, whoever did it would have wished they hadn't.
hazing should be humiliating and painful, but no permanant damage or lasting marks should be left. and the parties involved take the victim out to dinner and laugh about it. the act should create a stronger team, not divide people.

Eagle1
01-14-2006, 07:53 PM
No girl wrestlers?

the article said there was one in the front of the bus with the coaches and managers.

but girls should not be on a high school wrestling team (unless of course there is a girls league).

ConspiracyBuff
01-15-2006, 08:47 AM
I agree that the comments such as, "throw the kids in jail", and "It's another reason to shut down public schools" are rediculous. Expulsion and their dad kicking the living doo doo out of them, with a few homophobic comments ought to do the trick just fine.

"Eagle1-
hazing should be humiliating and painful, but no permanant damage or lasting marks should be left. and the parties involved take the victim out to dinner and laugh about it. the act should create a stronger team, not divide people"

This is true, but at a more mature level, like college with fraternities and sirorities, hazing doesnt really make sense for High School kids.

DesertFox
01-15-2006, 09:04 AM
Hazing makes no sense at all. The idea is supposed to be "initiation rites," but it so often gets perverted. The only way to do it is with adult supervision according to a script.

S-T
01-15-2006, 04:53 PM
Of course the teabaggers should be in jail. It is sexual assault.

I'm disgusted that some here do not take sexual assault seriously.

sunsettommy
01-15-2006, 06:20 PM
No girl wrestlers?

No way could girls do what the boys did.

They lack the equipment for it.

DesertFox
01-15-2006, 06:27 PM
Ah, but then there's always other ways to initiate girls.

Riverboat
01-15-2006, 10:50 PM
Ah, but then there's always other ways to initiate girls.They'd have to call it something other than teabagging. Unless they're like Kate Moss.

Longhorn_Platinum
01-16-2006, 06:50 AM
DesertFox:
Hazing makes no sense at all.

:unsmile: I call it "lineär revenge". "When we were freshmen, the seniors did it to us, so now it's our turn to do it to the freshmen." Just keep passing it on to the next generation, which did nothing wrong.

The only way to do it is with adult supervision according to a script.

:smirky: Now, we both know how well high schoolers follow scripts.

DesertFox
01-16-2006, 11:18 AM
When the adult supervision actually is supervision, they do okay.