Now Cartoonists Attack Our Troops

[Patriot Heart]

More from the sick twisted freaks who control most of the media today. May they roast where it is appropriate.

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<O:P></O:P>WASHINGTON -- Accuracy in Media has learned that The Joint Chiefs are taking the Washington Post to task for a "reprehensible" and "callous" editorial cartoon (http://www.aim.org/images/opedcartoon29jan06.gif) about U.S. soldiers who have sacrificed their limbs in the Iraq War. They have signed a letter to Philip Bennett (http://www.capitolwebhosting.com/sendstudio/users/link.php?LinkID=812&UserID=30663&Newsletter=294&List=3&LinkType=Send), managing editor of the Post, strongly objecting to an indecent "cartoon" that ridicules our service personnel.
The "cartoon," as one military observer put it, is one of the paper's "many tasteless cartoons about the military." The observer adds, "It's also not very often that every member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff will sign a letter of this nature, thus signifying the importance of this issue to those now leading our armed forces."
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[SmellyFed]

Twisted - but who here is REALLY surprised that the jizerals would stoop to this?

Anyone?

[Melz]

How compassionate of them. The party of compassion (and yes, before any liberal-types jump on me for assuming this was a liberal, lets rest at the fact that no conservative mocks our soldiers, yet any mocking I have seen has been invariably of the liberal nature).

What kind of shit makes a cartoon about a limbless soldier in the first place, war or not? Are they trying to make fun at the Bush Administration? NOPE! There are plenty of other ways to do that.

But of course, this artist (hahahaha) is not UnAmerican, he is just expressing his First Ammendment Rights to shit all over our military. Good to know.

[BuckeyeMike]

Hey, they just don't want the Muleslimes to get pissed at them....they're just kissing up! They don't care if you or I get pissed. I chalk it up to cowardice!

[Riverboat]

What kind of shit makes a cartoon about a limbless soldier in the first place, war or not? Are they trying to make fun at the Bush Administration? I laugh at a lot of things I probably shouldn't laugh at, but this cartoonist strikes me as one sick bastard. It doesn't even make sense as an attack on Rumsfeld. Has he made disparaging comments about soldiers calling in sick on account of "death" or something like that old office joke?

[DeclinetoState]

I've put up a post about this in the Terrorism and War forum. Mods may want to combine it with this.

[Republican_Legion]

My newspaper 'The Orange County Register' always had its mainstream cartoonist on the opinion page until last year when they claimed that everyother day 'mike shelton' is on vacation and Toles is filling in for him. Complete Bullshit ! At first tons of letters to the editor on the paper would show people asking what is up with the unfunny 'Toles' etc, the register would repsond with something like "Mike Shelton is currently on assignment".

Eventionally people sending letters to the paper gave up and accepted the fact that the OC register wants to shove its unpopular opinion down the throats of 61% of Orange County residents who voted for GWB.
Toles has no talent, his artwork is amature and his jokes are less funny then the unfunny 'john stewart'.

[S-T]

I don't think th cartoon "attacks" the troops. It is tasteless, but the attack in the cartoon is directed at Rumsfeld, not the troops.

[ldb83]

Here's one from a local paper around here published back on Veteran's Day...

http://www.statenews.com/show_editorial_comic.phtml?pk=310

[Rhino]

Remind me never to live there. I'd get arrested for arson at that local paper.

[Lazarus]

Now Now, boys and girls... Let's not lose sight of the fact that the liberals have assured us that they just oppose the war - but they support the troops... Cant you just feel the warmth radiating from these tributes of praise and love from the left for our armed forces?

I hope the Republicans have the guts to make the most of this material during the mid-term elections this year... Its time to take the gloves off... Screw Bi-partisanship... How do you find common cause with these bastards?

Has anyone heard the first Liberal political figure denounce these offenses? I havent..!!!! :flame:

[Patriot Heart]

I don't think it matters if it is directed at Rumsfeld, he's a big boy and can handle it. I think it is making a tasteless mockery of a grievously wounded soldier. I am so sick of these traitors.

[Maggie_T]

I hope the Republicans have the guts to make the most of this material during the mid-term elections this year... Its time to take the gloves off... Screw Bi-partisanship... How do you find common cause with these bastards?

:flame:

I agree 100%. It's time for gloves to come off. Enough tolerating these cowardly traitors. They deserve only our heartfelt contempt. And even that's too good for them.

And oh, by the way, I'm not using spewing hatred. I'm excercising my freedom of speech (let's see if it works for me the same way it works for them ... yeah, right).

[Warlady]

I don't think th cartoon "attacks" the troops. It is tasteless, but the attack in the cartoon is directed at Rumsfeld, not the troops.


I totally disagree. Seems like I've been disagreeing with you a lot lately. If you think our troops won't feel attacked by this disgusting tasteless offensive stick art that a 3 year old could do better then you don't understand our military (troops) mindset.

[Warlady]

I don't think it matters if it is directed at Rumsfeld, he's a big boy and can handle it. I think it is making a tasteless mockery of a grievously wounded soldier. I am so sick of these traitors.

Bravo!!! :claps: Hopefully you can convince S-T.

[EveningStar]

The Register is my paper too. Mike Shelton is one of the best around, even though he doesn't like Bush (he didn't like Bush 41 either). I see that Shelton now has his own blog (http://blogs.ocregister.com/mikeshelton/).

My newspaper 'The Orange County Register' always had its mainstream cartoonist on the opinion page until last year when they claimed that everyother day 'mike shelton' is on vacation and Toles is filling in for him. Complete Bullshit ! At first tons of letters to the editor on the paper would show people asking what is up with the unfunny 'Toles' etc, the register would repsond with something like "Mike Shelton is currently on assignment".

Eventionally people sending letters to the paper gave up and accepted the fact that the OC register wants to shove its unpopular opinion down the throats of 61% of Orange County residents who voted for GWB.
Toles has no talent, his artwork is amature and his jokes are less funny then the unfunny 'john stewart'.

[Rink]

Here's one from a local paper around here published back on Veteran's Day...

http://www.statenews.com/show_editorial_comic.phtml?pk=310

Here's the URL to that 'local newspaper' that printed that despicable 'cartoon'

http://www.statenews.com/

Go give em your POV over it, I'm sure there's an email to the editor somewhere on that newspaper.

[DoctorDoom]

Can anyone imagine Herblock drawing such unutterably disgusting sewage during WW2? WTF has happened to the press?

[Rink]

That 'cartoon' was drawn by the cartoonist Mike Ramsey, and by the looks of the other cartoons he is a rabid liberal America-hating bastard.

[DoctorDoom]

Go give em your POV over it, I'm sure there's an email to the editor somewhere on that newspaper.Editor in Chief
Nick Mrozowski
editorinchief@statenews.com

Managing Editor
Don Jordan
feedback@statenews.com

Opinion Editor
Lindsey Poisson
opinion@statenews.com

Contact The State News (http://www.statenews.com/contactus.phtml)

[Rink]

Thank you Doc! :thumb:

It never ceases to amaze me how good you are at digging up information :D

[Rink]

Here's some other cartoons from Mike Ramsey

SHows just how much he hates the Bush administration dont it?

http://www.statenews.com/show_editorial_comic.phtml?pk=262

and

http://www.statenews.com/show_editorial_comic.phtml?pk=249

and

http://www.statenews.com/show_editorial_comic.phtml?pk=243

and more...

http://www.statenews.com/show_editorial_comic.phtml?pk=344

and

http://www.statenews.com/show_editorial_comic.phtml?pk=341

and

http://www.statenews.com/show_editorial_comic.phtml?pk=335

and

http://www.statenews.com/show_editorial_comic.phtml?pk=330

and

http://www.statenews.com/show_editorial_comic.phtml?pk=327

and

http://www.statenews.com/show_editorial_comic.phtml?pk=324

and

http://www.statenews.com/show_editorial_comic.phtml?pk=323

just to show just a 'few'

[Rink]

The one cartoon that was so despicable is dated 11-11-2005

in the Opinion section on the right in the box that says: 'Editorial Cartoons'

[Melz]

I should start posting some Mike Peters cartoons, which are quite similar but he is a far better artist at least.

But sure, they are not anti-American and they certainly do support the troops.

what a hateful lot of folks.

[EveningStar]

Can anyone imagine Herblock drawing such unutterably disgusting sewage during WW2? WTF has happened to the press?
Herblock may not have drawn garbage during WWII but he sure did later.

[S-T]

I totally disagree. Seems like I've been disagreeing with you a lot lately.
That's fine. You have the right to be wrong. http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/images/smilies/grin.gif

In all seriousness, I don't see the "attack" here. I didn't say folks in the military won't feel attacked by it, just that I don't see the cartoon as an attack. Is the message of the acrtoon that the maimed soldier somehow got what he deserved or that his character is tainted? Or is the message of this particular cartoon that the soldier is the victim of an "immoral" war?

As I said before, it is tasteless. It is also offensive. I don't see it as an attack on the troops, though.

This is a different story:

http://www.statenews.com/show_editorial_comic.phtml?pk=310

Now that is an attack on the troops.

That is sick.

[Melz]

That's fine. You have the right to be wrong. :grin:

In all seriousness, I don't see the "attack" here. I didn't say folks in the military won't feel attacked by it, just that I don't see the cartoon as an attack. Is the message of the acrtoon that the maimed soldier somehow got what he deserved or that his character is tainted? Or is the message of this particular cartoon that the soldier is the victim of an "immoral" war?

As I said before, it is tasteless. It is also offensive. I don't see it as an attack on the troops, though.

This is a different story:

http://www.statenews.com/show_editorial_comic.phtml?pk=310

Now that is an attack on the troops.

That is sick.

Maybe it is an "attack" in the sense that these hateful assmites could have used any, ANY other way to ridicule Rumsfeld, Cheney, the President, Republicans, ANYONE...without putting up a picture of a soldier with no limbs.

They may have meant to deface Rumsfeld, but they used the troops that they "support" to do so.

We know what their intention was, but the way this ****er went about it was a direct hit on the soldiers, and I am sure it would be demoralizing as hell :(

[Tumblehome]

What kind of shit makes a cartoon about a limbless soldier in the first place, war or not? Are they trying to make fun at the Bush Administration?

That is exactly what they are doing, hence the "Dr. Rumsfeld" name tag. And come on you all thought it was funny when Coulter joked about poisoning a judge to death, how is this in more bad taste? It isn't terribly funny and is somewhat in bad taste, but its no worse than the Coulter one that you laughed at.

The cartoon clearly isn't an aimed shot at soldiers but an aimed shot at the administration, suggesting it puts the soldiers in harms way and doesn't sufficiently care for and protect them. I've met a few US veterans (including one who lost an arm) who shared that view and would smile at the cartoon.

The "I liberated a torture camp", "I work in one" is over the top, but I still dont' see it as aimed primarily at the troops. Its saying that the US administration has created torture camps (which it does have) and is comparing them as being on par with the nazi ones (which is way out of line).

I'm not sure how you'd make a cartoon statement implying that troops are abused or used improperly without including some sort of depiction of the troops.

[Republican_Legion]

The Register is my paper too. Mike Shelton is one of the best around, even though he doesn't like Bush (he didn't like Bush 41 either). I see that Shelton now has his own blog (http://blogs.ocregister.com/mikeshelton/).

Well I have noticed he is strongly anti-pork and uses his anti-pork cartoons to attack GWB which in my mind keeps shelton from looking like a blind loyalist to the GOP.

Some of Sheltons recent masterpieces:
http://www.ocregister.com/newsimages/opinion/Cindysenate20106.jpg
http://www.ocregister.com/newsimages/opinion/Roadkill13106.jpg
http://www.ocregister.com/newsimages/opinion/Warrantless12506.jpg

[Warlady]

That is exactly what they are doing, hence the "Dr. Rumsfeld" name tag. And come on you all thought it was funny when Coulter joked about poisoning a judge to death, how is this in more bad taste? It isn't terribly funny and is somewhat in bad taste, but its no worse than the Coulter one that you laughed at.

The cartoon clearly isn't an aimed shot at soldiers but an aimed shot at the administration, suggesting it puts the soldiers in harms way and doesn't sufficiently care for and protect them. I've met a few US veterans (including one who lost an arm) who shared that view and would smile at the cartoon.

The "I liberated a torture camp", "I work in one" is over the top, but I still dont' see it as aimed primarily at the troops. Its saying that the US administration has created torture camps (which it does have) and is comparing them as being on par with the nazi ones (which is way out of line).

I'm not sure how you'd make a cartoon statement implying that troops are abused or used improperly without including some sort of depiction of the troops.

I have no idea what you're talking about referring to Coulter and some judge. Please enlighten me. None of our troops work in any such torture camps. That is bogus and if you have proof then please show me. If you think this cartoon isn't over the top and a lie then you are as sick as the asshole who drew it. I pray that our troops don't see it. This is heart breaking for me and anyone who supports this kind of garbage is a sick bastard.

[S-T]

I have no idea what you're talking about referring to Coulter and some judge. Please enlighten me. Article on Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,183006,00.html).

Thread on FreeCon (http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/showthread.php?t=31672).
I pray that our troops don't see it. This is heart breaking for me and anyone who supports this kind of garbage is a sick bastard. I pray that our troops do see it. We can't defeat the Lefty unless we pull back the curtain and expose them for what they are.

[Tumblehome]

If you think this cartoon isn't over the top and a lie then you are as sick as the asshole who drew it.

Maybe you should try reading what people write before reacting. I said that it WAS over the line. THe one about poisoning a judge was also over the line btw.

[spiderman]

Too bad the MSM will ignore this.

[Native American]

The cartoon clearly isn't an aimed shot at soldiers but an aimed shot at the administration, suggesting it puts the soldiers in harms way and doesn't sufficiently care for and protect them.

Isn't aimed at our soldiers? Isn't aimed at our soldiers?? Get real!

It depicts an American soldier, wearing an American soldier's helmet, wearing an American soldier's uniform, holding a huge wooden club in his hand, and the club has a nail stuck in it, and there is blood all over the club the American soldier is holding in his hand.

The liberal Democrat leftists and their sycophants in the Antique Media are truly disgusting human beings, and they demonstrate their hatred of our president, our soldiers, and our country with "funny" cartoons like that.

I hope those liberal Democrat leftists pay a huge, huge price this November in the mid-term elections. The collection of sicko vermin that today's Democrat Party has become needs to be removed from our land. Taking them out of Congress is the first step in that long-overdue process. :flushlib.

[Native American]

I have no idea what you're talking about referring to Coulter and some judge. Please enlighten me. None of our troops work in any such torture camps. That is bogus and if you have proof then please show me. If you think this cartoon isn't over the top and a lie then you are as sick as the asshole who drew it. I pray that our troops don't see it. This is heart breaking for me and anyone who supports this kind of garbage is a sick bastard.

Warlady, that poster is using a typical lib tactic - deflect the discussion away from the issue at hand. That poster is attempting to "defend" that disgusting liberal cartoon by attacking a conservative commentator.

Such a tactic makes no sense, except to a liberal whose idea of "defending liberal behavior" (that vicious cartoon attacking our troops) involves attacking someone else. It's how the liberal mind works, Warlady.

It's sick and disgusting behavior, that oh-so-typical "debating" tactic.

[S-T]

Isn't aimed at our soldiers? Isn't aimed at our soldiers?? Get real!

It depicts an American soldier, wearing an American soldier's helmet, wearing an American soldier's uniform, holding a huge wooden club in his hand, and the club has a nail stuck in it, and there is blood all over the club the American soldier is holding in his hand.
You have it confused with the cartoon that started this thread. Here it is:

http://www.aim.org/images/opedcartoon29jan06.gif

Please pay attention. ;)

[ldb83]

There were about two weeks of backlash to that cartoon. People protested outside the office... it was a long, ridiculous, heated thing. That was months ago now though, so anything you write to them now will be beating a dead horse and probably wouldn't get printed. Take some swings at recent cartoons of his if you want to be heard.

[Warlady]

S-T we can't all be wrong and you be right. You're the one who has the right to be wrong. Or is it the right to be silent? Anyway, what you say can and will be used against you in the court of public opinion and apparently that court of opinion finds you blind.

[Longhorn_Platinum]

:moo: Did anyone see Ted Ralls defending the cartoon on Hannity & Colmes? Hannity handed Ralls his ass on a platter. Ralls was blubbering some incoherent blather about how Hannity's producer had made him a special deal to keep Hannity from confronting him.

[Warlady]

http://freeconservatives.com/pics/politics/demresponse.jpg

This kind of says it all don't you think?

[Warlady]

You have it confused with the cartoon that started this thread. Here it is:

http://www.aim.org/images/opedcartoon29jan06.gif

Please pay attention. ;)

Please stop being rude. It's conduct unbecoming...

[Native American]

http://freeconservatives.com/pics/politics/demresponse.jpg

This kind of says it all don't you think?

Indeed it does! Good post, Warlady!
(I especially liked how the artist portrayed the Dimmie character as having a huge mouth but a very small brain. Very apropos, I'd say....)

[omegatrump]

Please stop being rude. It's conduct unbecoming...

Warlady, which one were you directing your admonition too...


Personally I would rather see Rumsfeld compared to McNamara. I don't believe sufficient force has been made available to our troops to eradicate the enemy. The Sunni triangle should have been left a sea of glass.

I don't believe our troops should be just driving up and down the road catching shrapnel and sniper bullets. Just look at what happens when a cartoon of their child molesting leader appears. Suddenly you see the replacement forces for all those our boys have killed over there. And they are every where, not just confined to Iraq.

The Rumsfeld / McNamara approach to this enemy will not win this war. The heart of the enemy, the driving force behind their madness must be defined and dealt with in a way that will settle the conflict world wide. Until that happens this war will not be won. I don't see even the slightest indication that this will happen, coming from this administration.... Well, maybe...something may have changed....W's great religion of Peace is now a great and Noble Faith.. but I'm not sure that that is all together posative......maybe...we'll see...

[HomeschoolrsRUs]

Warlady, which one were you directing your admonition too....

She was referring to the one whose post she quoted.

[Rink]

Warlady, which one were you directing your admonition too...


Personally I would rather see Rumsfeld compared to McNamara. I don't believe sufficient force has been made available to our troops to eradicate the enemy. The Sunni triangle should have been left a sea of glass.

I don't believe our troops should be just driving up and down the road catching shrapnel and sniper bullets. Just look at what happens when a cartoon of their child molesting leader appears. Suddenly you see the replacement forces for all those our boys have killed over there. And they are every where, not just confined to Iraq.

The Rumsfeld / McNamara approach to this enemy will not win this war. The heart of the enemy, the driving force behind their madness must be defined and dealt with in a way that will settle the conflict world wide. Until that happens this war will not be won. I don't see even the slightest indication that this will happen, coming from this administration.... Well, maybe...something may have changed....W's great religion of Peace is now a great and Noble Faith.. but I'm not sure that that is all together posative......maybe...we'll see...

I'm sorry man, but Rumsfeld is smarter by far and craftier than McNamara.

McNamara was an idiot of epic proportions as he didnt know what the hell he was doing most the time in my opinion

I DO think tho that Rummy is surrounded by incompetents inside and outside the military thats hindering what he wants done, NTM the blithering nits that are the Main Stream Press who harps on and jumps on EVERY single itty bitty thing the military does and does theirlevel best to twist it into some sort of 'war crime'

That also doesnt help any

[zom_b98]

I have no idea what you're talking about referring to Coulter and some judge. Please enlighten me.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,183006,00.html


I honestly don't see the difference between the cartoon and Mann Coulter joking about murdering a Supreme Court Justice

[DeclinetoState]

McNamara was an idiot of epic proportions as he didnt know what the hell he was doing most the time in my opinion


I am reluctant to trust people with a strange middle name. And McNamara's middle name was strange (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_McNamara) indeed.

[omegatrump]

I am reluctant to trust people with a strange middle name. And McNamara's middle name was strange (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_McNamara) indeed.

Before he was drafted by Kennedy to be secretary of defense he was President of Ford Motor Co. after his tour of duty he was President of the World bank. He was the only person outside the Ford family to have that position at that time. I'd say he was a very crafty fellow. Strange he was for sure, is, I think the lous is still alive isn't he?

[Rink]

Dang you mean McNamara's middle name is 'strange'???

I wonder if he was the inspiration for 'Dr Strangelove?'

[S-T]

Please stop being rude. It's conduct unbecoming... Warlady, my post was incredibly tame compared to dozens on this forum that get no rebuke from you. Are only those who disagree with you capable of being rude?

By the way, for Native American to scold Tumblehome for TH's opinion of a cartoon when Native American didn't even know what cartoon Tumblehome was referring to is also "conduct unbecoming".