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DeclinetoState
02-03-2006, 01:34 PM
http://www.creators.com/opinion_show.cfm?columnsName=ses

Now that Sam Alito has been confirmed, the pro-choice movement in America needs to take stock. The effort to stop Alito was a colossal failure. The opportunity to educate the public about the tenuous state of abortion rights in America was utterly lost in a confusing Senate strategy that at one moment focused on Alito's club memberships, at another on his investments and hardly ever on the likely future for women in this country.

But the senators alone cannot be blamed. The pro-choice movement was in many respects no more effective than the senators in reaching women -- despite repeated claims that Roe was at risk, most women remained ummoved. There was no outrage, little pressure and nothing resembling an effective grass-roots movement to stop Alito.

Part of the reason, no doubt, is because the women with the most political clout in this country do not feel vulnerable to Sam Alito. To a very large extent, they are right. But that is not a good enough reason for their apathy.

Even if Roe were to be overruled, women in blue states along the two coasts would be unlikely to see any major changes in their rights, or in access to abortion. The decision as to abortion rights would shift back to each of the states -- in states with pro-choice majorities or supermajorities in the legislatures and-or pro-choice governors, protection of abortion rights would be afforded by state law, or even by the state Constitution.


I guess this is her point, near the end of the article:

When I tell my students about the bad old days, when we used to collect money along the hallway of the dorm and bundle someone off on the bus to New York, hoping she wouldn't start hemorrhaging on the way home, they look at me as if I were from another time zone, another country.


Another time zone, another country--when it was much harder to kill your kids.

True Grace
02-03-2006, 01:55 PM
The pro-choice movement needs to take stock, that is for sure.

I have yet for anyone to tell me how murdering unborn children is a "right".

Liberals care more about being "inconvenienced" than they do human life.

HomeschoolrsRUs
02-03-2006, 02:00 PM
Quote:
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Wow, didn't realize how much she and I have in common, :uhh: -- when I explained my LEGAL abortion to my children, and how the doctor 1) botched the procedure by lacerating my uterous causing me to hemorrage, 2) DID NOT call an ambulance but instead sent me home with a double pad and a receipt for $350, and 3) resulted in a later diagnosis of NEVER being able to get pregnant, or if I did I wouldn't carry the child to term, they TOO looked at me as if I was from another time zone. http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/images/icons/icon9.gif

Of course, when I explained the marvellous Grace and Mercy of of forgiveness and salvation through the Almighty Father, and the BLESSINGS He provided for and allowed in my life despite that horrific event, those being the two precious faces loving staring up at me, they completely understood ... and knew, life is not a choice, it is a gift of God.

DeclinetoState
02-03-2006, 02:06 PM
It isn't pro-choice, it's pro-abortion. It isn't pro-abortion, it's pro infanticide. But I took the title from Susan's own words.

I don't know what she means by "another time zone," since I believe the abortion laws in this country are the same, whether you are in the Eastern, Central, Mountain or Pacific time zones. I don't even believe Daylight Savings Time changes the laws, but I could be wrong.

Native American
02-03-2006, 02:09 PM
When I tell my students about the bad old days, when we used to collect money along the hallway of the dorm and bundle someone off on the bus to New York, hoping she wouldn't start hemorrhaging on the way home, they look at me as if I were from another time zone, another country.

"Hemorrhage on the way home"??? Wait, I thought people such as Estrich kept telling us that abortion is "safe" (except for the living baby, of course) so what's this BS about bleeding? Or is Estrich telling us that the abortion doctors in Hillary Clinton's New York state (where abortion was legal, and where doctors provided those abortions) are hacks? If so, has Hillary filed suitable legislation to rout those hack abortion doctors out of New York state?

Or is Estrich just full of pro-death liberal Democrat crap again?

TotallyAtPeace
02-03-2006, 03:01 PM
Everyone knows she's from another time zone. :rolleyes:

I don't know what she means by "another time zone," since I believe the abortion laws in this country are the same, whether you are in the Eastern, Central, Mountain or Pacific time zones. I don't even believe Daylight Savings Time changes the laws, but I could be wrong.

Does she sound like Carol Channing or what?:whistle:

S-T
02-03-2006, 04:58 PM
Coat hangers, hemorrhaging on the way home, blah blah blah.

Pro-abortionists' coat hangers: Do murderers lie? (http://timbayly.worldmagblog.com/timbayly/archives/022177.html)

Well, do they?

DoctorDoom
02-03-2006, 05:16 PM
How interesting that the "doctors" who did the illegal abortions are for the most part the same ones who did them when they were legalized. Did they suddenly become competent?

Fourth, it is misleading to say that pre-Roe illegal abortions were performed by "back-alley butchers" with rusty coat hangers. While president of Planned Parenthood, Dr. Mary Calderone pointed out in a 1960 American Journal of Health article that Dr. Kinsey showed in 1958 that 84% to 87% of all illegal abortions were performed by licensed physicians in good standing. Dr. Calderone herself concluded that "90% of all illegal abortions are presently done by physicians." [18] It seems that the vast majority of the alleged "back-alley butchers" eventually became the "reproductive health providers" of our present day.Illegal Abortion Myths (http://www.vanderbilt.edu/sfl/illegbeck.htm)

DesertFox
02-03-2006, 05:22 PM
Susan Ostrich is from another part of the coat hanger.

HomeschoolrsRUs
02-03-2006, 05:23 PM
How interesting that the "doctors" who did the illegal abortions are for the most part the same ones who did them when they were legalized. Did they suddenly become competent?

Doc, GREAT point! :claps:

Warlady
02-03-2006, 05:31 PM
As anyone seen Susan Estrich lately? She had a complete face do-over. She actually looks good now. Too bad she didn't have a lobotomy at the same time.

DeclinetoState
02-03-2006, 08:35 PM
Yeah, but did they do anything about her voice?